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Driving strength 10~15 is better for four dimms.
right?
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Driving strength 10~15 is better for four dimms.
right?
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Originally Posted by JNav89GT
I think I will be fine for the one Oskar sent me on the way,I don't wanna rock the boat why expert thing turn out to be like that. Oskar has done his best.:D
But it kind of sucks to loose 4-way bank interleave that way as it makes up for that 2T a bit. But If Expert does 300Mhz without the need to disable BI then it's a really nice touch ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Nope.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Enz0
Buddy, think about the other way:D
@Bachus:
BUT, I did enable the bank interleave when I run 4dimm UTT ATM IIRC. :p:
So disable B.I. might be the key in terms of running that on TCCD 4 dimms. ;)
Sorry, one more Q... Do you know If that Oscar Wu's screenshot from Expert is with or without BI?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
See that time finished initial round ;)
I am postive that according to he told me it's BI on. :)
OPB i feal sad for you, my cpu was only 200€ but it doesn't mather.
its a cpu that SHOULD work instead of KILLED by Dfi branded mobo:)
3200+ opteron died here with the dfi RDX
OPB I am very sorry you lost two great chips :( and am happy that you will have replacements on their way.
You being a great friend hows testing my chip out on cascade when time comes :fact: ?If you want of course. You are great :toast: Thanks for everything you have done for the oc'ing community bro :buddies:
Tim
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Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
If my loss can just save you guys cpu, then it's worth for that.
just feel bad about that 4600+..hope my new buy 4400+ rcoks.:D
Kevin
Unless Oskar has reworked the who board to be totally different to the RDX200 9~15 may over drive the dimms. Now i know a ton of components have been changed so i now feel we need to know if he has reversed the drive resistors.
As far as im concerned 1 to 8 suits 2 dimms, evens are normal drive odds are week, 8 is strongest and 2 is weakest just the same as 7 is strongest and 1 is weakest.
Now from 9 to 15 im unsure as Oskar keeps this a secret, but to hit 4 dimms 1t i had to run 15 on the RDX which would mean thats maximum drive. Now if you know how to enable maximum drive you would know that certain resistances have to be switched.What we need to know is how he is switching them so we can advise people on how to overclock.
I will be asking Oskar this, we need answers on this.
Hey mentor,
I believe that 4dimm DDR600 2t is set to driving strength as 9
** be sure you check the date of the bios he use.;)
OPB
So now what's the deal if my Expert is a dud? I'd sure like a replacement CPU and board if things turn into an AMD BBQ.
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Originally Posted by Stumpjumper5200
Bro, Last time when I got BBQ on my 0435 UPAW fx55 claw and the first ever DFI SLI-DR... I did not get anything.:D
http://img53.echo.cx/img53/1267/burned028pz.jpg
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Originally Posted by Onepagebook
wow :shock:
HOLY :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Now THAT is a BBQ...that had to smoke like hell...its almost as bad as the video of that duron at 3.3ghz or whatever that exploded... (fake i know, but still funny..lol)
Oh My Go.....
holy sh...t... that's some seroius burnt!
OMFG!
Xtreme AMD BBQ
terrible! haven't seen before.
:eek:
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Originally Posted by Onepagebook
OH MY GOD :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Eh, been there, done that - no biggy :p: LOL
You let the magic smoke out, didn't you? :nono:
That's some extreme carnage there. :toast: Sucks that you lost some awesome hardware though :(
I'm REALLY hoping I don't hear the "Death Sound" tomorrow :stick:
wow OPB. Just wow. :slobber: :slobber:
Btw, sorry to hear about your CPUs. May they rest in peace. :toast:
Sorry to hear about this Kevin.
Seeing the picture you posted reminded of the car I crashed on the track....
hehehe i remember that fx55......you didn't even use that high a voltage considering the cooling.......that was crazy......
Oh, he did....IIRC it was ~1.9vQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
and you are wrong as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I have tried 2.04v on that one but that 0435upaw was died @ 1.65v
Is there any confirmation on the rumor that boards shipped to monarch have been recalled?
Since no other e-tailer offers them and DFI probably doesn't have an exclusive contract with monarch that makes me wonder.
hm i asked my local store per email i should get an answer by tomorrow.
maybe they know something (i think they are the only official partners in germany)
mfg
Yeah, but i am willing to bet they will turn a blind eye to all of us normal people. DFi is not going to replace all the CPU's they kill are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calderbrae
You can be sure of that, especially for peeps depending on DFI European support which is utterly crap :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadflyii
Wow OPB, killing stuff already:D
Both my RDX200 and my Expert run very strong. I like the Expert better. Tested both FX57 and Opteron 154 on them with no issues.
Then again, I plug in my PSU lines correctly :D J.K. :D
OPP
Well, it's pretty much never AMD's fault. I really want someone else to get back in the game. If OC'ing wasn't priority one in a motherboard, I know I personally wouldn't be using a DFI anymore. My old-school DFI NF4 Ultra-D, won't even hibernate, it just shuts off. So my computer is just set to never fall asleep. Cool Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
My Oldie Infinity had cold boot issues long after they were claimed to be fixed. If someone got back in the game, like Abit or something, I think I'd mount my DFI's to my wall with a very large dagger.
You know, in fact, I think they've lost a customer. Screw 'em. I'll just get something else regardless of what's on the orb.
sorry to hear that your CPUs was killed, OPB..
although one of my friends who got this board already said that is not good as previous LP, but I still may have a try of Expert mobo in this one two days~
hope i will get a better experience. ^^
Maybe so but you take the chance of killing your CPU (not to mention voiding the warranty :rolleyes: ) every time you go on an OC'ing adventureQuote:
Originally Posted by Gadflyii
I like most others here use DFI simply because they DO overclock better than any other board (for an experienced OC'er) on the market ATM, so please remember, this is Xtreme Systems here and in the quest for a few more MHz there will always be casualties :)
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Originally Posted by alpha0ne
the expert killed the cpu(s) before it even has a chance to post on stock speed, that sucker fried the chip as soon as it power up!
Please remember that some of these CPUs were killed at stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Untill these bugs are sorted out I'm going ASUS for my next rig...
this mb is weird .. yesterday i was running 2820 (12x235) at default voltage on my opty150 .. occt stable .. 32m stable .. prime stable .. so today i started messing around with volts to see how high i could go .. and for some reason on this board i can get any higher ..i didnt mess around though with ram settings or drive strength or anything .. just running 3-3-3-8-1t which on my sli-dr i had no problems running 270fsb ..
anyways so i give up and illw ait for the next bios .. so i put back my settings to 12x235 default vcore and BAM .. no stable .. fails occt .. prime .. and fails 32m pi after like 3 sec ..
i just dont get it .. i love the layout .. but the rest of this board just sucks right now
could it be that im running a 4 pin and not 8 ?? according to pcp&c they said i would have no problems running just a 4 pin on this motherboard .. but who knows
I don't think the 4-pin is an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
The main problem, however, is that you are treating the board like an SLI-DR when BigToe has gone on record several times stating that the two boards will clock very differently. I think you should be willing to re-learn the bios before you make any conjectures about the board.
deception``
I think the point he's making is when he finished his overclocking he returned the board back to the previous tested good settings but it failed to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by deception``
There has to be something not right if one day it works then another it doesn't at the same settings.
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Nice to hear that bro.
I will have one OSkar used for a week here tomorrow
How is everything there? you going to CES2006? :D
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Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer
that's rumour is nonsense.
well you will just have to grab one of the new dual core FX60's. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
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Originally Posted by xgman
well, The thing is the 4600+ might be the best dual core I have never owned and I don't think even FX60 can even touch it.
ya, I don't think the batch of Monarch got is bad. my case should be the single case for the defective NV SLI chip after I talked to Oskar. :toast:
I'd just like to add that I just got the Expert and my shiny new Opteron 170 0530TPMW chip.
I was not happy after reading about what happened to you, and I was going to wait until I got my GFX card before I set it all up, but I had to know if my setup would work. I listened for the high pitched noise as was explained and heard none, so I put my CPU in.
Works great to my relief, and 2.7 ghz somewhat prime stable (no errors yet anyway after 30mins) with both cores going at
1.475v and the stock heatsink the cpu came with some help with another fan.
My ballistix PC4000 ram doesn't go past 250, its rated speed without getting errors in memtest. I've heard other people have problems getting ram to OC as high as before. Of Course I know next to nothing about OCing DFI boards, so I'm sure I can go higher with the ram once I get to know how the bios works.
Still, I'm happy. And sorry to hear about your chips. There's nothing like losing something that can't be replaced.
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Originally Posted by Onepagebook
lets hope so. Good luck from here.
Can anyone tell me the difference between the old DFI mobo and this new one. I know the old one was riddled with problems but overclocked quite nicely.
Thanks
I never had older DFI boards, just the expert. But I do know it shares some of the components with the recently introduced and problematic crossfire DFI board. There is more space in between the x16 SLI slots for better cooling when using 2-slot coolers. It has supposedly better power regulation for the CPU. Also, something that I don't care about, is that it can run 4 sticks at 1T. I'm sure there are other changes, but I don't know a great deal about the older DFI Nforce4 boards.
World's fastest CPU is dead.....
This sucks :sick:
At least, there's a morale: Never insert your best proc. on a mobo that just killed other CPU :(
Unless there's smoke or a noise, it's difficult to know that the CPU was just killed. I'm sure he just thought that he forgot to attach something, or maybe it wasn't compatible with one cpu for some weird reason. I probably would have tried another CPU too if I couldn't figure it out. I feel bad for AMD, because they're having to deal with RMA's that weren't their fault. I know people send stuff in because they overvolt/forget to put paste on, but in this case I'm sure Onepagebook is not to blame, and DFI is. DFI should pick up the tab here. I hope for DFI that this is just an isolated incident. I'm sure they are not happy at the moment since a lot of people are not going to buy their boards now because of this, and the crossfire problems.
from what i can tell, they are in OPB's case ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfmyst
unreal: basically a new board layout with the pci-e 16x slots further apart and better voltage regulation (no v3.3/5v vdimm jumper!)
O my god .... Kevin, sorry to heard this bad news. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
:stick: that's 4600+ !!!!!!!!!! , O~~~~... you must have a very strong heart !!! I will fainted if that was happend to me !! :eek2:
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ranger1234
This has been for long time ago, and that price is AMD 16m spi WR ;)
Well, luckily I didn't hear the high pitched sound from my board, so that's a confidence booster. :) Tonight the watercooling is being tested, and hopefully tomorrow is the build :banana:
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Originally Posted by Stumpjumper5200
Very good to hear!!
So keep eyes on my thread 24 hours later. see if I can kill 3rd cpu ;)
That board in the pic is not the Expert (right????) My Expert board does not have a 4 pin molex plug and my memory slots are on the side of the cpu not top
nope, thts a sli-drQuote:
Originally Posted by Speedpc
Sorry to hear about the cpu's OPB:(
Hope you get some great replacements:)
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Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Oh I know, I have had to lick my wounds before my friend. If I overclock and burn something out, I do not turn and blame anyone else, or do i look to exchange parts I know I screwed up... In Fact, just this week I killed a CABNE Opt. 150 that was stable at 3405mhz when i took the IHS off (done it many times, never had a problem before, no visual damage to the CPU... *sigh*)
But if i plug in a brand new board, and try to boot it at stock speeds, and it melts my CPU, I would have every right to be pissed off, especially if DFI does not replace the board AND the CPU.
Now my Expert is running very happily at the moment, but I did take my good CPU out, and put in a crappy one... just in case....
:shock2: HOLY CRAP!! Did you ever figure out what caused that? :shock2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Sorry for your 2nd and 3rd major loss.
Funny how people forget the issues the SLI-DR had when it was new. (Most people would agree it is a great board now...just not perfect. ;) ) I hope the issues with the RDX200 and Xpert are just teething issues..... very expensive teething issue for some. :(
The copper in that chip makes it look like its still glowing red.
Awesome, and at the same time scary.
OK so before you actually stick it the CPU you are saying to just plug in the PSU and give PSU power without powering on the motherboard correct?,,,,,,,,,,,getting my mobo in a few days...would be a shame if my dual core Opteron blew upQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Yeah I just got the good news from PLUSCORP that my Pre-Order has been sent and I will recieve it tomorrow morning, after all this reading on here im a bit worried about dropping my FX-57 in it.
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Originally Posted by end0
yup, I understnad this worry, and buddy, if you kinda worry about that, just wait until I post update results or you guys can simply just trust what Tony and OPP did for their results, again, I am pretty trust my case is only incidentally defective board issue. ;)
I think I will wait atleast a couple weeks just to make sure I don't risk my Pride in it...
wow that sucks, maby i should hold off on that board
I have a very poorly clocking 3700+ that is perfect for the job of guinea pig, if it survives then it will go into a computer I make for my gf, if not, oh wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Hey OPB, I have a question.
Tcl 1.0 on Expert is just like Tcl 1.5 on the old NF4.
What's going on?
Also, which is faster Tcl 1.0 or 2.0?
I heard about Oskar told me, cas1.5 will be real but not for cas 1.0
cas 1.5 is unreal for old nf4 series, it's way slower than 2.0;)
but the fact that a defective board shipped out that killed two cpu's worries me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
but anyhow, it does seem like a lot of other people have had a lot more luck, and no casualties yet, i think it's still too early to really make a call on the matter ;)
OPB, did you buy that board or was it a DFI sample sent to you?
Still trying to figure out what Monarch is shipping and the relation to your experience.
So they are making CPU cores out of Plutonium these days?... keep your potasium iodide handy people!!!
Yes I'll be doing CES:) I'll be at the Flamingo starting on the 4th, I'll be in Vegas until I run out of money:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Are you going?
OPP
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Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
you bad bro here, if so, I will stop you running out of money:D
I will be there all 4 days!!
**Oskar signature board is here. Nofear.:D
If I m nott back in 20 minutes, then ..... :slap:
:eek: its been 30 minutes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
we're praying:)
40 min... :(
i can just say: good that i haven't tried this board yet :D
mfg
Maybe the board is running so well he has gone on a benching orgy and has not come up for air.
STEVEN? call OPB:D
Let's pray to the high heavens that nothing went wrong.
-k0nsl
Maybe the board has blown up into pieces and now he's dead =/
he's still offline :stick:
hope everything is fine :D
which really means an hour to me. best of luck :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
come on OPB..report back...this cpu killing thing is getting scary...
He's prolly having lots of fun right now! GL OPB!
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Originally Posted by ozzimark
see I said you 're my bro;)
cuz I just went to school and back
sorry
give you guys this first; looks good to me;)
here is the OP170 I bought for Mrlobbor.
**Driving/data--->11/4, 166 divider, ram running @250mhz; and look at that bios date and model #;)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5...0expert5xy.jpg
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Originally Posted by Onepagebook
he's baaaaaaack
Good to hear it still lives to tell the tale. :up:
What's your first impression, faster than the plain ultra-D or about the same?
[QUOTE=Onepagebook]see I said you 're my bro;)
cuz I just went to school and back
sorry
give you guys this first; looks good to me;)
here is the OP170 I bought for Mrlobbor.
**Driving/data--->11/4; and look at that bios date and model #;)
QUOTE]
can you save the bios and upload it for us?
Kevin,
Heaven forbid you ever take a vacation....I don't think these guys could survive ;) :eek: :D
Glad you have a board back on its feet :toast:
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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
@xgman, I need to ask Oskar if this bios can be share, not I don't wanna share with, you know I am that type of guy willing to share;)
lol,
thanks everyone, well , I will take a vacation during ces2006, hopefully can see you and all the OCZ mentors there.
Thanks, let us know please. :)
Tony and Andy are going AFAIK.... but not I :( Maybe next year :)
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Yes, it really faster and more stable than old nf4 series.
especially in terms of BH/CH/UTT
I forgot to show the vdimm, it can easily using 3.09v
Damn, Kevin, you have some balls :D What if this board suddenly also was a cpu killer? :slap: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
P.S. Send the Opties out, I want to play with them as well ;)
Man, I want to buy the expert board right now cuz I need another NF4 board.
I heard talk of CPUs being fried. I also saw the note on the first page. Is that the only check we need to do right now? Also, how many ppl have fried their CPUs.
First page updated:
TCCD DDR610 dual super pi 8m action and a64tweaker.
the cpu frequcy showing on the mbm5 is wrong**
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/6...0tccd8m3ao.jpg
@ mrlobber, One of the opty is defective, so I need to call MWAVE for replacement because that's damaged during shipping.;)
crazy BH-UTT i say! i must say, i'm glad nothing bad happened. i remember the last time i went to go play with some memory, said i would be back in about a half hour, took an 1:30.. always multiply the stated time by 3 :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
what's your previous max on that TCCD with 2.5-3-3?