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Redesigned IHS? So IHS removal will no longer be necessary? Hurrah! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Please, tell us everything you know about this. At least I am very interested, because I wouldn't want to risk a $1200 investment just like that. ;)
Btw, what's this talk about L3 cache on the FX-60 a few pages back? Just :banana::banana::banana::banana: chat, or?
AMD was testing out L3 with the 59 but there is no room on the die for L3 on the 60
when the fx60 will have 2,6ghz, whats about the 5000+ ? only the "redesigned" ihs? or perhaps 2x2048 l2-cache? or what?
4600 2x512 @ 2.4Quote:
Originally Posted by LoKi2k
4800 2x1024 @ 2.4
5000 should then be 2x512 @ 2.6
and fx60 2x1024 @ 2.6
unless there are plans for a 5200+ anytime soon?
btw, 2x2048 would probably put out way too much heat, lower yields, clocks and just be plain expensive, utterly large dies.
From what I hear, AMD's already working on a 2 x 3ghz cpu.........Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
I assume this would be FX-62 or FX-65 or something and for socket M2? Or...?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I mean, 2 x 3 Ghz stock! That's just... woah, and they were saying 1 x 3 Ghz wasn't cost-efficient...
There will not be a 3.0Ghz dual core..
not in 90nm......
perhpas later in 64nm we will see faster amd
At this time such clock increases actualy negitively impact the thermal benefits that Amd has.. Untill They can fix that Don't expect that.. Oh and you guys might want to check out US patent number 6,800,933 ;)
FX-60 skt939 will $$$ the same as the FX-57.
I remember seeing an AMD CPU chart one time...
FX-62= sktM2 2x2.8ghz
FX-64= sktM2 2x3.0ghz
Think again.. The midrange for M2 is 2.2Ghz in contrast with the 2.4Ghz for 939.. Every generation of AMD is going to be slower than the one before and still do just as well...
There won't be a FX62 or FX64, instead they'll be FX65, and FX70, etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by edma2
And yes, they are working on a 2x3g core - but it may end up like the current 1x3g core FX which AMD is still complating releasing alongside the 2x2.6 FX60......
Why not FX59 @ 3Ghz. Imo some of the late FX57 stepping qualify to run 15x200 stock. Remember this..and both are T chips...
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2...ine38gt7et.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6...mpmw4hi4bw.jpg
FX55BN first production stepping is 0511, FX57BN first is 0512....
And core interlaped at 0513...speed binning process started...
Actually, the most obvious flaw is that the chart you saw seemed to follow 200 Mhz increments, while S939 uses 200 Mhz FSB (stock), M2 is supposed to use ~166.67 (with quad-pumped DDR2 = ~666.67), so it would rather be something like 2x ~2.84 and then ~3.006...uneven increments anyway (increase multiplier by one and you get 166.67 Mhz boost instead of 200).Quote:
Originally Posted by edma2
What about the new IHS for FX-60? Any words on that?
How well is M2 supposed to overclock? The same or better than 939? Also what about the heat, will that be about the same as 939.
And finally how long is M2's life supposed to be before we start seeing DDR3, PCI-E 2 etc...
DDR3 @ 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanuck
about the others, your bet would be as good as mine
The problem may just be the 15x200 Mult. I would think it would require a higher default Vcore as 3g is easy to reach 10x300, 11x273, 12x250, etc. for these cpu's. 15x, on the other hand, isn't the easiest mult to work with......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Well I already said it was covered in US patent number 6,800,933Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
Thats so helpful.. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Essentially what it refers to is a peltier device on the CPU core. Interesting idea, but they would have to redefine the limits of peltier technology to make it practical. At this point in time there is no way a TEC along the sizes of a CPU die would be capable of moving that much heat. Also, remember that the net heat would be the total of the core heat dissapation PLUS whatever the TEC is rated at.
I can gauarentee this is tech will NOT be on the FX-60.
The FX59 is officially dead. There's no plans for producting a single core 3Ghz cpu anymore from AMD. The next generation FX will now be the FX60 - 2x2.6G 1mb L2 Cache s939. The FX60 will be announced the day after CES ends (along with the plans for M2 - both s940 and s1207 versions.)
Its more probable that the Base Clock still being 200 MHz but uses Divisors to be compatible with both 533 MHz and 667 MHz Bus DDR-II Memory Modules like it does today with 266 MHz and 333 MHz Bus DDR Memory Modules. However, that is not related to the A64 FX-59/60 in any way...Quote:
Originally Posted by krille
i would think that if intel decided to release the PM 2.4gig stock, (which it can do) then im pretty damn sure that AMD would decide to dig the FX-59 from its grave, and let er mow it down...
yeah, intel release a 2.4 dothan, amd needs to release something along the lines of 3.0ghz
think again.. AMD knows not to play the Clock speed game with intel..
2.6. 5000+ is 2.6, 2x512 L2.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoKi2k
There is no L3 plans until much later for future multicore CPUs.
There is no 2M L2 per core plans for the current CPUs.
Socket M2 is to get DDR-2.
M2 gets FB-Dimm
that sucks about the FX-59. however, I'm really psyched about seeing the FX-60 push some new DC WR's on air, LN2, and everything inbetween. :)
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Originally Posted by nn_step
m2 gets ddr2 M2 is 940 pin desktop cpus
s1 i think is the 1207 pin server cpus with FBDIMM
Socket F is 1207 and is FB-DIMM but M2 comes out after F so it is highly likely to be FB-DIMM
i got info on the new fx-60 is gonna be a dual-core running at 2.6 ghz :)
I have screen shots of an FX60 OCed on stock volts ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...K/crystal1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/RichUK/31051.jpg
i got these pictures from a reviewer who is under NDA, nearly a month ago.
if thats stock volts :woot:
:owned:
thats some crazy stuff...although amd might have just sent out a 4800+ chip from the middle of the wafer... i hope not :D
and dude, there IS a reason why people are under NDA
So, does some one know the exact launch date of FX-60? It's going to be in my new system.
uh...Q2 2006 :D
btw, richUK what HTT does the CPU run @? 166, 200 or some other random timing?
Q2!? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hound
I heard that it is early January.
Correction Q1 of '06Quote:
Originally Posted by Hound
but not January :fact:
What's taking so long? They could just have launched it at Xmas straight ahead.
Except they had to put some finishing touches on it
nn step, do you have any idea what the finishing touches could be?
btw, that bianary is annoying the hell out of me, how do i decode it? lol
i love unix fcukersQuote:
Originally Posted by Hound
the last word is spelled correctly in the binary tho, i had to spell it incorrectly cuz of censoring here
gonna be launched at january next year
uh...win?
say, does it use 200HTT or 166?
WOO HOO!!! Some hopeful news! :banana: :banana: :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
OK, back on topic do you know the exact date?
It should be 13x200(x2), no reason it should be any different than prior x2's since it's still on s939. The thing that I find odd about those preview pics is the fact that the reviewer is using the x13.5. Could this cpu have finally fixed the 1/2 mult bug which has been on every A64 to date?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hound
EDIT: Well I was curious if this cpu could run it's memory @ the right speed using 1/2 mult but I had no idea how CrystalMark works. Took a quick glance @ some stats in the user rankings and it looks as if there's still a bug with the memory speeds even with the FX60........
Someone buy me one! <3 u!
Are you positive on this? Link? More info?Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Btw, what's all this fuss about FB-Dimm anyway? Got any 'patent number' on this one (good links)? Isn't it the "DIMM" used in laptops currently? Thanks!
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As for FX-60 release date
http://www.theinq.com/?article=27718Quote:
THE AMD FX-60 is due out in the second week of January.
Quite old news really, good to hear it's confirmed by our more... 'informed'... members. :D
now its public:
http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl...language_tools
fx-60 its a dual-core @ 2.6ghz cpu
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1818/fx60cpuz6fo.jpg
regards
Same here :Quote:
Originally Posted by metro.cl
http://www.coolaler.com/modules/news...hp?storyid=285
Weird one can read fx-60 and the other can't
I hope its not the dreaded 0531 or newer :( ...Well then again its must be because its XXX2E.
In the coolaler screenie, CPU-Z 1.31 is used. In HKEPC's screenie CPU-Z 1.31.1 is used. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinuza
XXX2E?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Either case, surely an FX must clock well. The word goes they're reaching almost 3Ghz in these (on air iirc), it was on early samples though.
http://www.theinq.com/?article=27718Quote:
early samples went to almost 3GHz on air
fx-60 bios for DFI lanparty,SLi NF4(not expert):
HERE
This is what one had and the other did not.
Cant wait for this badboy to be out :) Atleast it will be easier to buy it than it is to get a 7800Gtx 512mb
I want it badly
Sorry fo OT , just got my first FX57 and its CABNE 0530APMW - what u guys think , is it a good stepping and OCer ? And what about Cold Bug ? :)
I am going to play with it right now :woot: :)
Cold bug is still there, but its a good stepping for subzero...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorod
I am not going to use anything colder then DI next couple months anyway :) I was surprized to get that stepping from NewEgg , thought it will be a newer >0531 and higher , so i am very happy so far :) :toast: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Now how about creating a FX 60 countdown... thread, or renaming this one? Just a thought.
Btw I want it reaaaaal bad too, since my current just ain't too happy about oc'ing...
When you purchased it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorod
Placed my order on November 25-th , Friday , received it today :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
So far looks good , i am using OCCT Test to check stability right now (prime takes way too long ) :
Aircooling for now with Cooler Master Hyper 6 , normal room temp :
3010MHz @ 1.390V
3051MHz @ 1.408V
3108MHz @ 1.456V
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1...139v1ha.th.gifhttp://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7...408v8zp.th.gifhttp://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1...456v6cu.th.gif
Looks good so far ? :)
Looks awesome Gorod :toast:
U think so Dumo ? :) I just never had an FX before thats why i am asking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Seems it wont go higher then 3.1GHz ( 1.456V ) @ Prime & OCCT stable , no matter what voltage i give it . I think it gets too hot with aircooling :rolleyes: Hopefully will try it under stock Vapo LS and DI soon :toast: So far i am very happy with it :toast: , its +300MHz stable above my Opteron 146 CABYE 0536 that managed "only" :D 2.8GHz @ 1.50V Max. prime stable
Some Super PI 32M :
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6...m31s8hw.th.gif
Check this....same 57 stepping as yours...cold bug started @-92c evaporator temp or -63C core temp, so you have a lot of cooling headroom with this chip....http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...78#post1162778
Omg :eek: , thats some great news for me , hope mine likes serious cold too :D , thank you for the link Dumo :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
lets hope amd releases a new rev of procs, without a coldbug
either way, cant wait to see what the people who can afford these do with it :p:
tomorrow i will received 2 FX60 ES, can't wait....
also M2 ES is out...
gotta board for it though? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
of cuz from AQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I will sit and watch:) ..Nice going there Guess:toast:
Hope no crazy coldbug with this FX60...
oh that is sexy
After those FX60 samples....Its time to release FX59:)
Probly not...