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10-30-2005, 10:16 PM
Afterburner

Sorry for the delay. I been pretty caught up with Diwali these few days :) CPU-Z needs an update coz it does not recognise the Vcore @ any setting be it stock or increased. The mobo runs mighty cool. Bios readings are pretty stable with minor fluctuations. +5V and +12v readings are jus slightly off when compared readings taken from a Fluke Multi direct from my PSU. +3.3V is almost spot on. The High Performance standalone CPU temp measuring device Tony mentioned seems rather accurate with no visible fluctuations. I have clocked my Venice to a level I couldnt do before on the Grouper. Its now doin 2750mhz @ 1.45v and on my previous mobo it was 2700 @ 1.475v and has potential for 2.9Ghz :slobber: I am having difficulty clocking my Gskills though so I am runnin them on Divider tentatively. I wonder if Grouper will be like DFI as in needin different Bioses for diff types of RAMs. I will need both Tony and Grayskull's assistance in this area. I am waitin to receive more pics of the Bios so bear with me :p:

Here's an initial result and a basic screenshot coz I am primarily a gamer ;) Taken usin a Zalman 7700 Copper HSF (120mm). Vcore @ 1.45v :p:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...perInitial.jpg
10-30-2005, 10:39 PM
Dynasty

Quote:

Here's an initial result and a basic screenshot coz I am primarily a gamer Taken usin a Zalman 7700 Copper HSF (120mm). Vcore @ 1.45v

Does the voltage read correct through bios ?? Or does it read 1.776 ?
10-30-2005, 11:06 PM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynasty

Does the voltage read correct through bios ?? Or does it read 1.776 ?

It reads fine in Bios......no worries there ;)
10-31-2005, 01:06 AM
AgentVX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

I have clocked my Venice to a level I couldnt do before on the Grouper. Its now doin 2750mhz @ 1.45v and on my previous mobo it was 2700 @ 1.475v and has potential for 2.9Ghz :slobber:

That's great dude! Makes up for the delay :p:
10-31-2005, 03:24 AM
Nem

Whats the max vcore available on this board, one review I have seen said it was a max of 1.55v?

I've just seen that Ebuyer UK have these in stock at £130 all in, with £4 delivery ish, so am just about to order.

Thanks

Nick
10-31-2005, 03:28 AM
don_vercetti

thats custompc, right? They're talkin nonsense there, i've already emailed the people the magazine about that.
10-31-2005, 04:01 AM
Nem

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_vercetti

thats custompc, right? They're talkin nonsense there, i've already emailed the people the magazine about that.

It was the custom pc review indeed. Glad to know they are wrong as usual then :)

I'll get me one ordered then I think.

Nick
10-31-2005, 04:08 AM
Bar81

2.10v core
10-31-2005, 10:03 AM
johann

I see this board in stock in the UK here:

http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/...roductid=18799
10-31-2005, 10:14 AM
Nem

Also in stock for £5 cheaper this week at www.overclockers.co.uk

And in stock £10 cheaper at www.ebuyer.co.uk

Both UK stockists.

Nick
10-31-2005, 02:12 PM
Detract

What's the consensus on this board, PC-A9RD480Adv
10-31-2005, 02:35 PM
Revv23

its of sapphires design, i wouldnt expect it to be like grouper and halibut.
10-31-2005, 11:19 PM
Afterburner

Max Vcore is up 2.10v on this board. IIRC it has the same principle as the DFI as in using a VID offset to add on to the 1.55v :)
11-01-2005, 09:52 AM
Afterburner

Here are the Bios pics as promised....... :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...per/Bios/9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/15.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/16.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/17.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/18.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/19.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/20.jpg
11-01-2005, 08:58 PM
situman

any more updates?
11-02-2005, 02:50 AM
Afterburner

If you are refering to me......thats it for now mate :)
11-02-2005, 03:10 AM
eva2000

woah sure there's enough bios screenies there ? :D

thanks much appreciated :)
11-02-2005, 06:32 AM
situman

yeah thanks for the work. Geez still can't get it here in the US. Any good stores in Australia or Singapore that I can order from? Probably comes out to the same price as the US anyways.
11-02-2005, 09:55 AM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

yeah thanks for the work. Geez still can't get it here in the US. Any good stores in Australia or Singapore that I can order from? Probably comes out to the same price as the US anyways.

Just talked to Sapphire. Supposed to be here end of October but didn't show, been delayed. No ETA although maybe next 1-2 weeks. Basically they have no idea what's going on. Prices in UK are ridiculous and besides don't ship to the US. This is getting ridiculous.
11-02-2005, 10:50 AM
situman

Its ok I thought about it hard and long. With M2 socket approaching, no need to splurge on such an expensive board anyways. Bought myself an Epox SLI to "hold" me over till the new stuff comes out. Besides, its not like I'm losing out on much performance if any at all.

Besides, first Gen xfire is a dud anyways. ATI limited the refresh rate on higher resolutions so its pretty much useless and current Nvidia cards pretty much owns ATI cards, barring the shadow launched x1800xt.
11-02-2005, 11:27 AM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

Its ok I thought about it hard and long. With M2 socket approaching, no need to splurge on such an expensive board anyways. Bought myself an Epox SLI to "hold" me over till the new stuff comes out. Besides, its not like I'm losing out on much performance if any at all.

Besides, first Gen xfire is a dud anyways. ATI limited the refresh rate on higher resolutions so its pretty much useless and current Nvidia cards pretty much owns ATI cards, barring the shadow launched x1800xt.

Frankly, if you're waiting for M2 you're waiting for nothing. It's not going to offer any perceptible gain over 939 for the desktop.

This mobo isn't a crossfire mobo so I think you're confused. As to the whole 1600x1200 resolution limit that only applies to the x8x0 series and not the X1800 series.

As to the X1800XT, considering it's available world wide as of today, you again are misinformed as to the launch status of the product.

Good luck with your SLI board, but the reasons you made for picking it don't hold water.
11-02-2005, 01:26 PM
situman

It is true socket M2 probably won't offer any tangible performance upgrades. BUT! It will be future proof where as socket 939 will/might be relegated to the low end a la socket 754. I believe this argument holds plenty of water.

With regards to which cards limits refresh rates at high resolutions, I might be wrong and frankly I am too lazy to dig up the article about it. So yeah this argument might not hold much water.

Also, last time I checked, I do not see any retail x1800xt at any of the major online stores (Eggy, ZZF...) So I am not sure what you meant by "available world wide as of today." So again this argurment holds plenty of water.
11-02-2005, 02:02 PM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

It is true socket M2 probably won't offer any tangible performance upgrades. BUT! It will be future proof where as socket 939 will/might be relegated to the low end a la socket 754. I believe this argument holds plenty of water.

With regards to which cards limits refresh rates at high resolutions, I might be wrong and frankly I am too lazy to dig up the article about it. So yeah this argument might not hold much water.

Also, last time I checked, I do not see any retail x1800xt at any of the major online stores (Eggy, ZZF...) So I am not sure what you meant by "available world wide as of today." So again this argurment holds plenty of water.

Glad you only shop at two stores. Try www.allstarshop.com and in Europe they've been shipping. Do your homework son ;)
11-02-2005, 02:50 PM
situman

Hey I did say I'm lazy. Besides son, not ALL stores have the cards yet, so I do not consider it widely availabe worldwide.
11-02-2005, 03:52 PM
Revv23

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i mean, bh/utt clocking? at high volts?
11-03-2005, 03:19 AM
SmokeyTheBandit

Hi yesterday i bought the Sapphire Pure Innovation thinking it could be my solution to the DFI headaches.

But unfortunatley i cant get my board past 9x 250.
The Ultrad booted straigt up into windows at 9x 307 without a single glitch, so i know the cpu can handle it.
I reduced the memory divider to the lowest (100) but still i cannot boot past 250 ....
I also messed with the latencys/voltages but it was a waste of time.

My system specs :

X2 4400+
G-Skill 2 GB Kit PC 3200
XFX 7800 GTX Extreme
Silverstone 650 Watt Zeus PSU

But the DFI nF4s had some problems with the first bios revisions so i hope this will be resolved on a very short term ;)
11-03-2005, 04:33 AM
Afterburner

Smokey......remember to set the NB HT PLL Control option to Manual and select High Speed while leaving the Stability Calibration alone followed by the other settings you used and remember patience is of the essence when playin with a new mobo ....... :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/Bios/20.jpg

Mine's doin 305 HTT so there are no issues thus far xept for the RAMs portion..... :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...perInitial.jpg
11-03-2005, 05:05 AM
SmokeyTheBandit

Allright thx will try this tonight ;)

Did you encounter the same "limits" without changing the NB PLL default settings ?
11-03-2005, 06:36 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBandit

Allright thx will try this tonight ;)

Did you encounter the same "limits" without changing the NB PLL default settings ?

Yes I did.....:p:
11-03-2005, 08:17 AM
split

1 Attachment(s)

I see saffire have made more software avaliable on their site.

There is links to it in this thread by Coolasmoo here

Northbridge looks a bit warm though.
11-03-2005, 06:20 PM
Revv23

that ati systems manager is amazing, well done ati, id like to see the mem tweaker, if its got everything a64 tweaker does it could have killed the need for me to have any of those tools at all.
11-03-2005, 09:45 PM
Grayskull

It has most of the settings of the A64 tweaker. It also can show you the contents of the memory's SPD. At some point there will be an update with more features and should obsolete the need for any other platform tool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

that ati systems manager is amazing, well done ati, id like to see the mem tweaker, if its got everything a64 tweaker does it could have killed the need for me to have any of those tools at all.
11-03-2005, 10:28 PM
Sushi1976

New Bios for Sapphire pure PI-A9RX480

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/suppo...s_viewlist.php

Sushi
11-03-2005, 10:42 PM
SnipingWaste

Grayskull can you find out why ther are no TUL mother boards here in the US? Newegg had them but looks like only one shipment and that was it. Theres no full ATX bullhead mobo in the US but only mATX, why?

Sorry for the OT.
11-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Hybrid

So is it safe to assume Sapphire will support their boards well? LAst hting i want is a board with few bios updates during its lifespan.
11-04-2005, 12:02 AM
Revv23

so when will we see this in USA?
11-04-2005, 04:08 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi1976

New Bios for Sapphire pure PI-A9RX480

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/suppo...s_viewlist.php

Sushi

Thanx...... :D
11-04-2005, 08:30 AM
Sushi1976

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

Thanx...... :D

Did you already flasht the new Bios and did test? Are there any changes?

Sushi
11-04-2005, 09:45 AM
ken

Can you guys with the board test and see how high the HTT can go? :)
cheers
11-04-2005, 11:57 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi1976

Did you already flasht the new Bios and did test? Are there any changes?

Sushi

I see no visible changes and strangely though its an update, Sapphire dated the Bios same as the stock one which is 26/09/05....... :confused:
11-04-2005, 12:12 PM
G-Man

Just got myself one of these boards with my new opteron 144 system, having a nightmare setting it up though!

this is my first a64 system so not 100% sure on all the settings.

So far the best overclock i can get is by just upping the mem voltage to 3.4, NB HT PLL to high speed and setting the cpu to 250 leaving everything running 1:1. that gives me 2250 at 250 FSB stable. I've got 2 x 512 winbond UTT by the way, not touched the timings as yet.

So, i figure first thing first, i should find the CPU limit. So, set CPU FID to 9x CPU VID to 1.55, CPU HTT ref to 265. To keep RAM limits out of the equation for now, and not fully understanding alot of the settings, I set the following:

memclock index value: 100 (Is this the memory divider? Just figured I'd set it to lowest for now)

LDT & PCI bus control: 200 (What is this? Is this the HT multiplier? again just figured i'd set to lowest for now)

NB - SB Port config: tried both default and enhanced (anyone know what this does?)

These settings resulted in no boot. I had to clear the cmos to get the board to boot, however the exact same settings botted fine at 250. Really confused on this when i have set everything else to lowest.

Can anyone offer some suggestions on what im doing wrong? I did also try upping the ATI chipset voltages but it did'nt seem to make any difference. still no boot. I know these CPUs don't top out till well over 300 x 9 so why do I get no boot with my RAM on a divider?

Any help much appreciated!
11-04-2005, 09:01 PM
Bar81

Alright, this is just fing ridiculous. Any stores anywhere that have this in stock and ship to the US?
11-04-2005, 11:47 PM
biohead

holland, €180 x 1,19 = $215 :woot:
11-05-2005, 01:57 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

memclock index value: 100 (Is this the memory divider? Just figured I'd set it to lowest for now)

yes this is the Memory Divider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

LDT & PCI bus control: 200 (What is this? Is this the HT multiplier? again just figured i'd set to lowest for now)

yes this is the HT Multiplier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

NB - SB Port config: tried both default and enhanced (anyone know what this does?)

am not sure myself but leave this @ default till we receive enlightment from the Wise ones

- Set the LDT Bus to 600
- Ensure NB HT PLL @ High Speed at all times
- Set Overclockin attempts to Three
- Turn Off AMD 'Cool n Quiet'
- Set RAMs to Manual, 133mhz, 2, 5, 2, 2, 2, 8, 10, 4, 133mhz 7.8us, 1 bus clock, 2 bus clocks, Manual, 1T, 5.5ns, 7ns, 8, Disabled, 16 Cycles, 4, Not Reduced, Disabled, Normal Drive, Enabled, Enabled, Nominal, Enabled, 4 beats, Continous, Disabled, 2.90v , 0.0%
- Leave all NB and Chipset voltage @ default
11-05-2005, 02:10 AM
Afterburner

Here's the thing dude.......this mobo from the info I got is designed to be swtiched off then turned back on after Bios changes are made. Weird I know but what I practice is using the Reset button instead so bear this in mind. Continue to set the FID x 9 and CPU Vcore @ 1.55v and then start playin with the HTT once the above settings have been changed. Remember that this mobo wont boot at times so you will have to hit Reset and it will boot Overclocked. Use CPU-Z to verify this. You can refer to the Bios pics I posted to guide urself. Cheers...... :p:
11-05-2005, 02:25 AM
G-Man

Thanks for the reply. about to give those settings a go.

When you say turn it off though, how do you mean exactly? Do you go to save setings and exit, then once it saves and does'nt boot you hit reset? I don't have a reset botton my lian li v2000.
11-05-2005, 02:25 AM
alpha0ne

Hey 'burner why have'nt you plopped an Opty in this board yet ?? :)
11-05-2005, 04:11 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

Thanks for the reply. about to give those settings a go.

When you say turn it off though, how do you mean exactly? Do you go to save setings and exit, then once it saves and does'nt boot you hit reset? I don't have a reset botton my lian li v2000.

No prob :D Yes thats what I mean but oh bummer you dont have a reset Button :( You could try turning the system off and on instead. Note: If you are turning the unit on and off multiple times, it would be a good thing diconnecting the HDD first to avoid straining it :)
11-05-2005, 04:13 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Hey 'burner why have'nt you plopped an Opty in this board yet ?? :)

Coz I dont have one coz I am no longer in the Armed Forces so I can no longer keep up the Hardware expenditure and not to mention the pay-per-hour here SUX big-time so the Grouper is basically my last purchase till Jan 2007 :p:
11-05-2005, 04:15 AM
G-Man

OK, yeah see what you mean after having a little play with it. If it does'nt boot, turning on and off twice always seems to bring it back. It just turns the overclock settings back to auto.

Got a little higher with your settings, but now stuck at a less than impressive 270 HTT with just 2432 mhz on the CPU. The CPU can do this at default volts, its not even breaking a sweat. Any ideas why its not going any higher? What HTT are you running out of interest?

I did try upping the chipset volts but it made no difference.

thanks
11-05-2005, 04:18 AM
Afterburner

Mine's doin 305 HTT so far with the settings I advised on and will push further when I have my Water Rig up and runnin...... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...perInitial.jpg
11-05-2005, 04:24 AM
Afterburner

Woops abit of typo up there, post edited :p: Seriously mate I havent a clue why your Grouper isnt doing any higher. Jus bear in mind the settings I provided and play around and see if you get anything and don forget to let me know as well if you hit the Jackpot.......heheh :p:
11-05-2005, 04:31 AM
Afterburner

Folks out there do take note that as with all Sapphire graphic solutions, this badboy is made in China and not Taiwan so dont be taken aback. Build quality and finish still amazes me till today...... :clap:
11-05-2005, 05:34 AM
G-Man

Done a little more testing and I have def hit a rock solid wall on the motherboard at 270. even tried dropping the multiplier right down on the CPU. Tried increasing CPU volts further with no luck.

Wondering if my board is faulty or something. If I was stuck at 320 - 340, then fair enough, might be as high as the board can go, but 270? Just wish I knew WTF the problem is. Where are the ATI reps when you need them?
11-05-2005, 07:03 AM
G-Man

Anyone had any floppy disk troubles? It always says "floppy disk fail 40" at boot despite me using a floppy drive that I KNOW works fine. So i can't even update the bios to see if the new one will make the board work as it's supposed too.
11-05-2005, 07:05 AM
SPQQKY

flip your floppy drive cable around.
11-05-2005, 07:39 AM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

Done a little more testing and I have def hit a rock solid wall on the motherboard at 270. even tried dropping the multiplier right down on the CPU. Tried increasing CPU volts further with no luck.

Wondering if my board is faulty or something. If I was stuck at 320 - 340, then fair enough, might be as high as the board can go, but 270? Just wish I knew WTF the problem is. Where are the ATI reps when you need them?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...94#post1116994
11-05-2005, 07:40 AM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

Folks out there do take note that as with all Sapphire graphic solutions, this badboy is made in China and not Taiwan so dont be taken aback. Build quality and finish still amazes me till today...... :clap:

What most people don't understand about Chinese production is that it's not all crap. Sure, the stuff you see in stores is Chinese produced crap but that's because you want it cheap. Chinese manufacturing spans the range from high quality high priced goods to throw away junk, it's the customer that determines what he wants and all too often they want cheap junk. Given the price of the board, the capacitors, and the build quality seen it's obvious Sapphire has gone the high quality and high price (obviously) route with their Chinese production facilities.
11-05-2005, 07:43 AM
Revv23

i think hes saying that as for the fact that in the days of the NF2 infinity a chinese board sucked and a TW one was of very good quality.
11-05-2005, 09:23 AM
Afterburner

I am sayin its all good........ :D
11-05-2005, 09:32 AM
G-Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPQQKY

flip your floppy drive cable around.

I managed to stop the floppy disk fail message, but now it won't read or format any disk i put in it. It worked fine on my nforce 2.
11-05-2005, 09:38 AM
G-Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...94#post1116994

Yes, I know about that setting. Its set to high speed as it should be.

Just did a bit more testing after my computer locked up (Did'nt bother stability testing, as I assumed it would at least be stable at such a low speed) and it appears im in exactly the same situation as Smokeythebandit, I had to drop the HTT to 250 to get a successful 32M SuperPI run. I can't believe it! What on earth is wrong with these boards! I could of got better overclocking performance for 1/3rd of the price on a cheapy Asrock ULI board.
11-05-2005, 09:53 AM
Afterburner

Patience buddy......allow Tony to receive his board and giude us ;)
11-05-2005, 12:01 PM
G-Man

Yeah, i just hope its not long before someone can shed some light on this problem. I've spent a whole lot of cash on a new system and its not really any faster than my XP-M at the clocks i can get. Would'nt be so bothered if I was stuck at 300, at least that would give 2.7 on the opteron.

Found a working floppy drive in an old computer. Flashed the new bios and still have the exact same limit.
11-05-2005, 04:44 PM
G-Man

Notice the review for the RDX 200 on VR zone came up against a similar wall at 270

http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=2893&s=14

Noticed a couple of members mention it in the rdx 200 thread here too. Seems the new bios that just came out fixed it. Hope another bios for this isn't far away with a fix.
11-06-2005, 02:00 PM
Afterburner

Looks like the Bios update from Sapphire made my Grouper really Horny :D
I hadn't given the updated bios a go since I updated it so I thought what da heck :p:

Vcore @ 1.45v
HT @ 1035mhz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...uper345HTT.jpg
11-06-2005, 03:29 PM
Bar81

What's the point of running the ridiculous HTT when you're RAM is only doing 230? Is there actually a performance increase in any real world application from jacking up the HTT by an extra 100 versus upping the multiplier and running the HTT and RAM at 230?
11-06-2005, 03:43 PM
Frodin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bar81

What's the point of running the ridiculous HTT when you're RAM is only doing 230? Is there actually a performance increase in any real world application from jacking up the HTT by an extra 100 versus upping the multiplier and running the HTT and RAM at 230?

I guess the point is showing that the board is capable of high HTT, which is seriously needed by people with low multi cpus (like mye 3000 Venice which reaches 317+ HTT on the 9 (max) multi). And I don't think running insane HTTs with low dividers will show any performance difference vs lower HTTs, as long as the ram and cpu mhz are equal.
11-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frodin

I guess the point is showing that the board is capable of high HTT, which is seriously needed by people with low multi cpus (like mye 3000 Venice which reaches 317+ HTT on the 9 (max) multi). And I don't think running insane HTTs with low dividers will show any performance difference vs lower HTTs, as long as the ram and cpu mhz are equal.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Forgot about that. Low multi needs high HTT for large OC (I haven't bought anything lower than a 10x multi chip so I forgot about that). Thanks for that and the confirmation that if your multi is high enough there's no point in running the HTT at insane speeds otherwise.
11-06-2005, 10:50 PM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bar81

What's the point of running the ridiculous HTT when you're RAM is only doing 230? Is there actually a performance increase in any real world application from jacking up the HTT by an extra 100 versus upping the multiplier and running the HTT and RAM at 230?

As mentioned I am tryin to show how high the HTT can go jus like how the DFI RDX200 folks are doin..... :) Like I mentioned earlier on I will need Tony's advice on running the TCCDs any higher but there's a definite improvement with this Bios as I couldnt go above 305 HTT and 200mhz + on the RAMs. As for real world applications......Doom3 is MUCH smoother and I can feel a boost in FPS and overall system response is so damn freakin fast you wouldnt believe it ! Furthermore I am usin an old 60GB PATA for testing and it scares me to think what would happen if I used my 74GB Raptor....... :eek:
11-07-2005, 02:13 AM
G-Man

Nice results Afterburner!

Only wish my board worked properly like yours!
11-07-2005, 06:17 AM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

As mentioned I am tryin to show how high the HTT can go jus like how the DFI RDX200 folks are doin..... :) Like I mentioned earlier on I will need Tony's advice on running the TCCDs any higher but there's a definite improvement with this Bios as I couldnt go above 305 HTT and 200mhz + on the RAMs. As for real world applications......Doom3 is MUCH smoother and I can feel a boost in FPS and overall system response is so damn freakin fast you wouldnt believe it ! Furthermore I am usin an old 60GB PATA for testing and it scares me to think what would happen if I used my 74GB Raptor....... :eek:

You're saying that at the SAME CPU speed, but higher HTT that a game is "MUCH" smoother? I find that not likely.
11-07-2005, 07:32 AM
Afterburner

I can feel it thus far so we cant be certain for sure but for a mobo runnin @ 345 HTT and HT @ 1035mhz, system response and speed is insanely fast :slobber:
11-07-2005, 07:37 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

Nice results Afterburner!

Only wish my board worked properly like yours!

Follow the same settings I recomended but this time increase the voltages for Xpress 200 and HT Link to 1.40v for both and see what you get this time :)
11-07-2005, 07:45 AM
dfx

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

As mentioned I am tryin to show how high the HTT can go jus like how the DFI RDX200 folks are doin..... :) Like I mentioned earlier on I will need Tony's advice on running the TCCDs any higher but there's a definite improvement with this Bios as I couldnt go above 305 HTT and 200mhz + on the RAMs. As for real world applications......Doom3 is MUCH smoother and I can feel a boost in FPS and overall system response is so damn freakin fast you wouldnt believe it ! Furthermore I am usin an old 60GB PATA for testing and it scares me to think what would happen if I used my 74GB Raptor....... :eek:

Bro had u tried running timedemo in your doom3 console before and after
How much fps increase u see?
11-07-2005, 08:01 AM
Afterburner

No I have not.......I will give it a go and report back :p:
11-07-2005, 08:18 AM
G-Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

Follow the same settings I recomended but this time increase the voltages for Xpress 200 and HT Link to 1.40v for both and see what you get this time :)

Already tried that unfortunatly. Tried that last night, no change at all.

Got another opteron 144 turning up tomorrow for a PC im building for a friend, I'll try that one incase I've got some sort of freak CPU that won't go over 250 HTT.
11-07-2005, 10:19 AM
Sushi1976

@all
Were it possibly on the Sapphire Pure A9RX480 with the bios from the 26.09.05 the multiplikator change down ? With me no other multi is taken over except the standard multi 11x200 (Venice 3500 +). Does somebody have the same problem or can test this?

Sushi

Sorry for my bad Englisch
11-07-2005, 10:35 AM
DJ_Datte

I can attest that with some changes in bios, I can so far hit 325 HTT, and I am sure if I had the time to sit with the board for a whole day, I could get it a few notches higher.

Boys, hows your 12 Volt line. With my PSU's , the best I have it at is 11.79, but they arent superquality ones.

I can so far run HTT 315 at high speed, but my cpu is a dog, maxes out between 2.6 - 2.7 GHz.

/DJ
11-07-2005, 02:07 PM
G-Man

I've got an OCZ powerstream so my rails are tip top. 12.3, 5.2, 3.4 not that it seems to do me any good as far as the board goes.
11-07-2005, 08:31 PM
kimandsally

Not a lot seems to be happening, I was thinking of swapping out my DFI NF4 SLI-D is this a good board is it worth me swapping or is it better to wait?
11-08-2005, 02:42 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

Already tried that unfortunatly. Tried that last night, no change at all.

Got another opteron 144 turning up tomorrow for a PC im building for a friend, I'll try that one incase I've got some sort of freak CPU that won't go over 250 HTT.

Damn realli sorry to hear man...... :( It will be excellent if you gave the another chip a go before declaring the mobo a dud :)
11-08-2005, 02:46 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sushi1976

@all
Were it possibly on the Sapphire Pure A9RX480 with the bios from the 26.09.05 the multiplikator change down ? With me no other multi is taken over except the standard multi 11x200 (Venice 3500 +). Does somebody have the same problem or can test this?

Sushi

Sorry for my bad Englisch

I have no issues with the second Bios regarding Multipliers. I can use any multiplier I want and I have used 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5 and 9 :)
11-08-2005, 02:50 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

I've got an OCZ powerstream so my rails are tip top. 12.3, 5.2, 3.4 not that it seems to do me any good as far as the board goes.

Same here......I got a OCZ Powerstream 520w @ 12.07v / 5.07v / 3.60v respectively :p:
11-08-2005, 03:02 AM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimandsally

Not a lot seems to be happening, I was thinking of swapping out my DFI NF4 SLI-D is this a good board is it worth me swapping or is it better to wait?

The reason I got this mobo is becoz it can supposedly do 300+ HTT @ 4 x 512mb @ 2T which is excellent for my gaming. I have yet to see it do this so I suggest you hang on for awhile and let the BIOS mature...... :)
11-08-2005, 04:52 AM
kimandsally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterburner

The reason I got this mobo is becoz it can supposedly do 300+ HTT @ 4 x 512mb @ 2T which is excellent for my gaming. I have yet to see it do this so I suggest you hang on for awhile and let the BIOS mature...... :)

Thanks for that, I'll keep my eye on this thread I'm sure you'll crack it soon.
11-08-2005, 11:52 PM
Hybrid

These results look very promising! I was able to get my hands on an X1800 XT, but i dont have a PCI-E board :(. Im wating on these sapphire boards. Is there and updates on a US release date?
11-09-2005, 01:13 AM
G-Man

tried another CPU in the board last night, no change. still not stable over 250.

I've had it with this POS board, Got a DFI RDX200 on the way. At least if you have a problem with a DFI and you post on DFI street you get a response. Sapphire support is non-existant. No reply on their forum, no reply to tech support emails. This will be the last sapphire board I'll buy.
11-09-2005, 01:25 AM
alpha0ne

Maybe Sapphire dont know/HNFI that there is more to selling a mobo than just stocking the shelves :rolleyes:
11-09-2005, 01:31 AM
G-Man

yeah, exactly. Sure, some people's seem to work great, but if it does'nt there isn't any help.

At least with a DFI you never feel like your alone with your problem, there is nearly always a thread of other people with the same problem and the manufaturers actually look at the forum to see what needs fixing for each bios update. Certainly does'nt seem to happen on the sapphire forum, makes you wonder how they will ever fix bios issues if they don't try and work thorugh them with their customers.
11-09-2005, 02:13 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

yeah, exactly. Sure, some people's seem to work great, but if it does'nt there isn't any help.

At least with a DFI you never feel like your alone with your problem, there is nearly always a thread of other people with the same problem and the manufaturers actually look at the forum to see what needs fixing for each bios update. Certainly does'nt seem to happen on the sapphire forum, makes you wonder how they will ever fix bios issues if they don't try and work thorugh them with their customers.

Exactly !!.............That is the MAIN reason I buy DFI :fact:

That is why I will NEVER buy Sapphire until they have a proven track record with taking onboard and acknowledging user input :)

That is also the sole reason why I will NEVER buy any other make either
11-09-2005, 08:11 AM
Afterburner

Relax guys......give Sapphire sometime :) This is their first Enthusiasts mobo. DFI didnt becum first class overnite either. Sapphire may not have the luxury of having someone like Oskar who engineers and then perfects marvels and so I think Sapphire is doin a good job thus far...... :)
11-10-2005, 03:27 PM
G-Man

Got the DFI RDX200 in, flying along with full stability at 315HTT 2835 mhz on the CPU, using exact same settings that would'nt go over 250 on the sapphire.

Does 340 HTT no prob without even upping any voltages.

Not had 1 boot issue either yet! infact not one problem at all.
11-11-2005, 01:08 PM
markr

Sapphire USA says Gouper end of November, Halibut middle of December for USA availability
11-11-2005, 01:13 PM
REBEL900

Quote:

Originally Posted by markr

Sapphire USA says Gouper end of November, Halibut middle of December for USA availability

Could you tell me again the difference between Halibut

and Grouper?

I used to know, but with all these mobos coming out at once, i forgot again..

Thanks :)
11-11-2005, 01:21 PM
deception``

Halibut is the X-Fire compatible board...Grouper is for single GPU's only.

deception``
11-11-2005, 01:28 PM
REBEL900

Gotcha...Thank You ;)
11-11-2005, 02:08 PM
Afterburner

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Man

Does 340 HTT no prob without even upping any voltages.

I am runnnin @ stock volts as well now.....no bump in voltages needed to run 340 HTT :)
11-11-2005, 05:42 PM
Bar81

Quote:

Originally Posted by markr

Sapphire USA says Gouper end of November, Halibut middle of December for USA availability

Sapphire USA are a bunch of strokeoffs :mad: There is no reason for this delay. I guess I'll have to get it from my UK contacts given my schedule of leaving the US by the 23rd of November.
11-15-2005, 06:45 AM
Nem

Well I've had this board in for about a week now and not getting amazingly far with it. I can get stable at 260HTT for 2.6Ghz on my opty 146, but 270 is in windows but not stable.

Why is the cpu temp in the bios totally out but about 10 deg? 46 in the bios is about 35 in the ATI system manager, and 33 on my temp probe.

Why is the cpu voltage different everywhere? 1.40v and then 0.20v on the adjustment should give 1.60v right? Well in the bios stats it says 1.5v and in the ati manager it reads 1.45v I think.

I've put the stability setting in high speed which actually seems to make no difference at all. I've set the nb-sb control to enhanced and that also oes nothing apart from kill the onboard lan port.

Anyone got any more ideas on this board, or got any further with it? I'm sat looking at the dfi nf4 ultrad on my desk which was doing 300htt solid for 3Ghz on the opty and wondering why I'm wasting my time with the sapphire.

Nick

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