G.Skill 2GBZX DDR400 2-3-2-5 Test

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10-27-2005, 05:40 AM
i found nemo

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Can't believe this question hasn't been asked a little louder. How in the name of the OC gods did you get the multi to 15 on an Opteron 146? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but as far as I know the multi is locked going up.

yea how'd you do that

btw check out my ch-5 :D
10-27-2005, 07:44 AM
GSKILL TECH

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It won't work for me... If I cant reach 235-240 at CAS 2.5, I'm selling this memory and going OCZ Platinum 4000 EB, but I still hope it can be done with G.Skill as it would save me 100$

GS Technician - in case of failure is there a chance to exchange my ZX kit for HX if I cover price difference???

Thanks

Pawel

i am really sorry that i can't do this for anyone :)
i can suggest you to buy 2GBHX since it has "better chance" to work 2.5-3-2-5 @ 500 but i don't guarentee it.

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thats not a very fair question. If they were guarenteed they would be called ddr500 or whatever. There only rated to 400, if they do that then there is no reason to rma. No overclock is guranteed. These kind of questions and reaction are what got duaonger of mushkin in trouble. Please stay clear of getting the reps in trouble. they are here to inform us, just be glad he can show us that they can overclock at all.

that's right :)

Quote:

Can't believe this question hasn't been asked a little louder. How in the name of the OC gods did you get the multi to 15 on an Opteron 146? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but as far as I know the multi is locked going up.

i think i damage it while i am clear my bios. it happened last sunday. i am :slobber: when i went into bios too
10-27-2005, 07:45 AM
Micha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoner@Large

thats not a very fair question. If they were guarenteed they would be called ddr500 or whatever. There only rated to 400, if they do that then there is no reason to rma. No overclock is guranteed. These kind of questions and reaction are what got duaonger of mushkin in trouble. Please stay clear of getting the reps in trouble. they are here to inform us, just be glad he can show us that they can overclock at all.

Sorry for mu english :slap: . I formed my question wrong way I assume... To be clear, I was asking Technician if G.Skill has a kit that is able to do my desired timings. Simply if I should try HX in case ZX wouldn't work for me, and if HX overclock better...

Anyway it seems from fedex tracking that my kit is going to be here on friday :banana: . I will post my results
10-27-2005, 07:48 AM
MonkSP

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

i think i damage it while i am clear my bios. it happened last sunday. i am :slobber: when i went into bios too

So what did you do to your BIOS? Tell us how you did proceed.
10-27-2005, 07:50 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micha

Sorry for mu english :slap: . I formed my question wrong way I assume... To be clear, I was asking Technician if G.Skill has a kit that is able to do my desired timings. Simply if I should try HX in case ZX wouldn't work for me, and if HX overclock better...

Anyway it seems from fedex tracking that my kit is going to be here on friday :banana: . I will post my results

it is hard for me to tell you which one can do DDR500 2.5 :), even 90% of HX can do it, but it is not rated and 500 and there is chance that can't do it.
i am really sorry.
10-27-2005, 07:52 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonkSP

So what did you do to your BIOS? Tell us how you did proceed.

i was testing 1GBFX and then i switch to 2GBHZ. clear the bios, turn on the power, and it happened when i wnet it to bios.
10-27-2005, 07:53 AM
grozni

Some pics for HX would be nice. If I could reach 250 on cas 2.5, that would be great
10-27-2005, 07:57 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by grozni

Some pics for HX would be nice. If I could reach 250 on cas 2.5, that would be great

ok i will post it later

my 32M 2GBHX is runing now
2.5-3-2-5-7-13-2-2-1-2-7ns-5ns-DC Enable-16cycle-16X-7X @ DDR500 * 12 3G

2.8v

will shows some picture when it finish
10-27-2005, 08:23 AM
gundamit

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

i was testing 1GBFX and then i switch to 2GBHZ. clear the bios, turn on the power, and it happened when i wnet it to bios.

You have PM. :)
10-27-2005, 08:53 AM
GSKILL TECH

becasue this is ZX thread, so my 32M HX result only use a link

http://premium1.uploadit.org/gskill/...5025325_05.JPG

i might test another pair later
10-27-2005, 08:59 AM
grozni

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

my 32M 2GBHX is runing now
2.5-3-2-5-7-13-2-2-1-2-7ns-5ns-DC Enable-16cycle-16X-7X @ DDR500 * 12 3G

2.8v

will shows some picture when it finish

That is great.......
10-27-2005, 09:01 AM
GSKILL TECH

i am trying another pair now. 32M start same setting, but no all kinds of cpuz,a64 while pi is runing and the time is goes faster
10-27-2005, 09:01 AM
grozni

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Originally Posted by G.S Technician

i might test another pair later

If you do please post a link with picture or maybe you want to open new thread, I guess there are many who wants to see BHX also......
10-27-2005, 09:03 AM
GSKILL TECH

i posted the link on top

another pair of 32M finish with real time 24M10S
but i am not happy since it is much more expensive than zx

now i am doing real time 2.5-3-2-0-7-12-6ns-5ns-16cycle- DC enable-16x-7x too see how is will go
10-27-2005, 11:00 AM
michaels

HX is better

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

it is hard for me to tell you which one can do DDR500 2.5 :), even 90% of HX can do it, but it is not rated and 500 and there is chance that can't do it.
i am really sorry.

HX is UCCC and ZX is Infenon. Confirmed with Taiwan. So I went for HX. :)
10-27-2005, 11:02 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaels

HX is UCCC and ZX is Infenon. Confirmed with Taiwan. So I went for HX. :)

HX is not UCCC. only HZ HS is UCCC.

for HX and ZX due to my contract i can't talk anything about it
10-27-2005, 11:15 AM
michaels

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

HX is not UCCC. only HZ HS is UCCC.

for HX and ZX due to my contract i can't talk anything about it

Oh, NO. :confused: I love UCCC's super low voltage.
Anyway, HX meets my target of 240MHz at 2.5C while ZX doesn't.

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.
10-27-2005, 11:20 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaels

Oh, NO. :confused: I love UCCC's super low voltage.
Anyway, HX meets my target of 240MHz at 2.5C while ZX doesn't.

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.

i have no chance to talk to them but i will

and i don't think it is RMA anymore cuz the order list from them has R in the back also, i have no idea what is that R stand for.
10-27-2005, 11:27 AM
quent

I'm goig to remove heatspreader, i'll let you know soon.
10-27-2005, 01:34 PM
rancid

I just got my ram in and as promised here are my results with this fantastic ram:

http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill8wj.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill20ad.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill32jd.jpg

No I am not going to set any world records, but anybody that knows the ABIT AN8 knows this board has MASSIVE 1T problems with 1GB sticks. The Gskill works flawlessly (knock on wood) with the AN8 and I even got my overclock back (had to go to 245 HTT with Crucial Ballistix at 2T)

So overall results: I can run this ram 1T, I got back my 5mhz switching to 1GB sticks, and I have yet to really push this ram. I could get it to run 2.5-3-3-8 1T timings @ 250mhz, but it was not benchable. I will continue to see what I can get out these little guys.

Thanks Gskill, and pass the word, this ram works with ABIT's POS motherboard!!!!! :toast: :woot:
10-27-2005, 02:54 PM
aicjofs

RAM voltage is stock I assume? Looking good, the egg hosed my order, so hopefully I will have mine next Monday. Looking forward to it.
10-27-2005, 03:36 PM
rancid

It can easily do it on 2.6V, but I bumped it to 2.8V b/c I do a lot of gaming and don't want to risk instability at any time.
10-27-2005, 03:38 PM
Micha

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaels

BTW, did you talk with newegg about the "R" showed up during check-out? Is that "RMAed"? :) I got that, too, on HX.

I'm obviously not GS-Technician, but no - R from newegg comes from Retail :p:

Rancid - thats great news for me :banana: , could you tell me how high you can run them at CAS 2.5?

Pawel
10-27-2005, 05:11 PM
rancid

Mine has "R" on the invoice too and I placed my order on the 25th when they were OOS that previous week. I inspected my sticks thoroughly and saw no signs of usage.

I will let you know Micha, I am almost scared to mess with it because I have been playing FEAR and Quake 4 all night without any problems! God its nice to be back to 1T :) I saw no noticable improvement in my benchmark scores (same as the ballistix at 2T) but I can tell you maps load a ton faster now which is great.
10-28-2005, 06:05 AM
flutie98

well mine came today and are doing alright, they are brand new not RMA and have the right timmings on the sticker

i had them stable at 3-3-2-5 @ ddr500 with cpu @10*250 1:1

but the second i went to put my cpu clock back up to 2.7 and put them on the */11 divider they wouldnt post

so i dropped the divider to the next one down 166 i believe and ran 300*9 on the cpu to put the ram at the same speed 245mhz, and its stable but only at 3-3-3-5, id really love to get that trp down but i just cant get it stable

any suggestions?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/flutie98/245.jpg
10-28-2005, 06:25 AM
DocGiggs

Memory controller issue?
10-28-2005, 07:33 AM
GSKILL TECH

it looks like memory controler's problem. 1:1 is good but 188 doesn't. it could be CPU issues

Quote:

Originally Posted by flutie98

well mine came today and are doing alright, they are brand new not RMA and have the right timmings on the sticker

i had them stable at 3-3-2-5 @ ddr500 with cpu @10*250 1:1

but the second i went to put my cpu clock back up to 2.7 and put them on the */11 divider they wouldnt post

so i dropped the divider to the next one down 166 i believe and ran 300*9 on the cpu to put the ram at the same speed 245mhz, and its stable but only at 3-3-3-5, id really love to get that trp down but i just cant get it stable

any suggestions?
10-28-2005, 09:13 AM
flutie98

yeah thats what i was thinking, but its still wierd that it could push my tccd to 275 no probs, i guess it just doesnt have enough Drive strength to push the densities of 2gb
10-28-2005, 05:45 PM
Dave_Sz

Try to raise either max async or read preamble and the lower the trp, maybe try trrd at 3.
I just tried to run mine at 220 with 3-4-4-8 with async and preamble on auto, got errors after 25 minutes of prime. Good news though is that I went back to the 623-3 bios and my old ram is running 270 with the same timings it ran 245 on the 2bta bios.
10-28-2005, 10:16 PM
Okda

so to be clear this is the kit from newegg that this thread is talking about for 221$ only ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231032
10-28-2005, 10:19 PM
Dave_Sz

Yep, that's it.
10-29-2005, 12:38 AM
Holst

I just ordered a set of these.

Im going to be using them with my 754 newark.

has anybody used these rams with a 754 system?

Or am I going to be the first.

CPU currently runs 2.8gig so ideally I want to be able to run 280x10 ... I think this might be pushing it a bit. But we shall see.
10-29-2005, 10:32 AM
Dave_Sz

I'm gonna say that 280 is not gonna happen, never. If you want 280 you should've went with HZ.
10-29-2005, 12:13 PM
Stoner@Large

yeah with this set of ram, 260 is lucky. take his advise ^^^
10-29-2005, 04:50 PM
Plywood99

Just ordered a set myself. Finally getting rid of this 4x512 crap ram I have on my Opty 148...
10-30-2005, 04:42 AM
trza2k

Well i just bought a 2GBZX kit and i'm getting no where at all. I cannot even boot windows in anything higher then 215mhz. I have tried this on 4 different motherboards with various settings and one of them the DFI one was running OCZ EB @ 280mhz, so mobos wasnt the issue. I also noticed there was no heatspreader on the ram i bought, is there supposed to be? I will talk to my retailer tomorrow about this.

Here is a pic of the ram:
http://www.linuxisbest.com/gskill.jpg
10-30-2005, 10:24 AM
JCGhz

which bios are you using with these??? assuming your using a DFI LP
10-30-2005, 09:28 PM
Dave_Sz

Uh, why doesn't your ram have the heatspreader on? Are those hynix d-5 chips? I want c-5 or c-6.
10-31-2005, 12:17 AM
trza2k

Ive got no idea on why no heatspreader? Also i just set the bios to "auto" for the ram settings and it is using DDR400 with 2.5/3/3/5 for some reason. Anyway i have arranged a refund of these now.
10-31-2005, 01:44 AM
Dave_Sz

Why, you have no grounds for a refund. If you're returning them cause you can't OC them, you sir, suck. I RMA'ed mine but only cause they were funky at 2-3-2-5 with everything else as loose and as tight as I could with everything in between.
10-31-2005, 02:40 AM
trza2k

I'm refunding because the retailer claimed they could do DDR500 at loose timing and DDR480 at somewhat tight timings. Now im simply not getting that on 4 boards that are overclocking ram just fine. The fact that they dont have heat spreaders and dont seem to set there own auto SPD properly is also suspect. I believe i have every right for a refund sir.
10-31-2005, 07:38 AM
aicjofs

Maybe GSTech can enlighten us on TRZA's sticks there. Why no heatspreader? Seems like a legit return to me. (of course I don't know the whole story of how he got these sticks) Especially since the are advertized on GSkill website with heatspreaders.

What I think is funny is the sticker on the bare RAM. Don't remove or void warranty. The secret to these sticks are under those 3 chips. LOL :stick: :p:

Mine should be here today. :clap:
10-31-2005, 09:14 AM
GSKILL TECH

just back to work, monday :) ; a lot of emails and questions need to reply. monday also busy, hehee. 1st, all U.S 2GBZX should have heatspreader. since i am working at warehouse to all U.S resellers. i havn't see any 2GBZX without it.
10-31-2005, 11:32 AM
Dave_Sz

Quote:

Originally Posted by trza2k

I'm refunding because the retailer claimed they could do DDR500 at loose timing and DDR480 at somewhat tight timings. Now im simply not getting that on 4 boards that are overclocking ram just fine. The fact that they dont have heat spreaders and dont seem to set there own auto SPD properly is also suspect. I believe i have every right for a refund sir.

Which retailer claims that? These are only ddr400 sticks, they are only guaranteed to do ddr400. If the retailer claimed they will do ddr500 then you HAVE TO return them, if he said they SHOULD do ddr500 then I don't see how that merrits a RMA. Do you live in the US? The chip that is visible says ZX on it so...
10-31-2005, 02:52 PM
aicjofs

:) :) :)

Awesome stuff, well worth the 2 weeks I have been trying to get it here.

Mine seems to top out at 265Mhz 3-3-2-5, voltage at 2.6v since upping it seemed to make no difference. Since my Opteron 144 seems to top out at 2800Mhz with poor cooling, I am using 255Mhz though. This is on a Neo4 SLI.

All I can say is wow. Gskill :toast: to you!
10-31-2005, 03:53 PM
aicjofs

Here's 255Mhz, need to get a few more Mhz's out of this CPU to max the memory out...

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg
10-31-2005, 09:51 PM
JCGhz

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaFrOuT

so to be clear this is the kit from newegg that this thread is talking about for 221$ only ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231032

little odd that the pic of the ram cleary reads 2-3-3-6 on the labels of both sticks but in the specs it says 2-3-2-5. ooops
10-31-2005, 10:18 PM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCGhz

little odd that the pic of the ram cleary reads 2-3-3-6 on the labels of both sticks but in the specs it says 2-3-2-5. ooops

i did clear of this before. there was few mistake kits went up to market and we recalled it.

all the kits that sell in the market are rated at 400 2-3-2-5
don't worry about it :)
11-01-2005, 04:26 PM
JCGhz

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

i did clear of this before. there was few mistake kits went up to market and we recalled it.

all the kits that sell in the market are rated at 400 2-3-2-5
don't worry about it :)

Good to know.. what bios did you use to test this ram???
11-03-2005, 06:38 PM
perithimus

How would these run on a 166 divider. I am thinking about ordering a set tomorrow. Also how easy is this ram to configure with the DFI NF4 motherboard? I had the OCZ VX and had a hell of a time getting that to work right.
11-03-2005, 08:29 PM
Okda

just ordered mine 5 min ago, it will be here in Egypt starting from 7~12 days

wish me luck
11-04-2005, 07:31 AM
Freez

Quote:

Originally Posted by perithimus

How would these run on a 166 divider. I am thinking about ordering a set tomorrow. Also how easy is this ram to configure with the DFI NF4 motherboard? I had the OCZ VX and had a hell of a time getting that to work right.

Those are quite a pain. I ordered myself a set of ZX last night, cant wait to start oc'ing them; maybe my cpu overclock will actually hit anything aboce 2.5 stable. What BIOS have you buys been using with this set?
11-04-2005, 07:44 AM
craptacular

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freez

Those are quite a pain. I ordered myself a set of ZX last night, cant wait to start oc'ing them; maybe my cpu overclock will actually hit anything aboce 2.5 stable. What BIOS have you buys been using with this set?

Hope you got in on the sale price at Newegg.

Link to ZX sale at Newegg

Not a huge difference, but hey- 8 bucks is 8 bucks. ;)
11-04-2005, 07:56 AM
aicjofs

Quote:

Originally Posted by craptacular

Hope you got in on the sale price at Newegg.

Link to ZX sale at Newegg

Not a huge difference, but hey- 8 bucks is 8 bucks. ;)

*sigh* Damn Newegg... :rolleyes: throws sale in after I buy mine. Oh Well :)

A great deal, gets even better!
11-04-2005, 08:37 AM
GSKILL TECH

i will try 166 today or next week. let you guys know soon. :)

NewEgg drops the price! i have no idea why. the price is setup by resellers. i have no control of that :)
11-04-2005, 11:50 AM
uOpt

Can you please clarify something, quotes from this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

i am really sorry that i can't do this for anyone :)
i can suggest you to buy 2GBHX since it has "better chance" to work 2.5-3-2-5 @ 500 but i don't guarentee it.

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by aicjofs
I asked in the Gskill forum but no one answered.

What is the difference between HX and ZX?

price is much different
i will tell you all, HX is not super good on OC
but 250 2.5-3-2-5 is very easy for HX

Quote:

Quote:

Ok, HX is better than ZX ?

that was my typo, HX is not a super easy OC ram
but its chip is ,uch more expensive

So, what was the typo?

You say HX doesn't overclock well but I'd say 200 to 250 MHz at that timing is a good overclock.
11-04-2005, 11:57 AM
GSKILL TECH

2GBHX is not easy OC over 251+ but for 250 CL2.5 has more chance to do it. and will not do CL3 stable

on the other hand 2GBZX has chance to do 250~260+ with CL3

remember both rated at DDR400, if it can OC is good. no guarantee on OC ability

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Cracauer

Can you please clarify something, quotes from this thread:

So, what was the typo?

You say HX doesn't overclock well but I'd say 200 to 250 MHz at that timing is a good overclock.
11-04-2005, 11:58 AM
revlimit

Does anyone know of a site to get this in the US besides Newegg? I want to avoid paying sales tax.
11-04-2005, 12:32 PM
geforce man

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)
11-04-2005, 12:34 PM
GSKILL TECH

I am happy to see this :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by geforce man

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)
11-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Dave_Sz

Quote:

Originally Posted by geforce man

got mine in yesterday, chillin @ 240 1:1 3-3-2-7-1t, it seems to be maxing out there, but i suppose could be a memory controller issue, either way i dont care, my 3200+ winny @ 240 1:1 is faster than @ 255 on a 166 divider, which is what i was running with my crucial value ram 2x1gb. so for 224.xx$ shipped to my house, im happy :)

Wait, so you're saying that your system is faster at 2400mhz than it was at 2550mhz? How is that possible? Faster according to what?
11-04-2005, 11:27 PM
geforce man

according to all benches, @ 2550, it was running memory @ 255 on a 166 divider, making the ram around 212Mhz, @ 240, its running 240 1:1, and overall it has made my system faster. 3dmark 2k1 shows improvement of 100 points @ this setting, and 2k3 is about the same as well (+/- 20 pts) so yea, i like it :). im in windows now with it @ 245, i think the mem controller, while able to handle 512 sticks @ fairly high FSB is having trouble with these, they dont seem to want to go very high, i dont know if its mem or board or cpu TBH tho, but i still stand by being happy with 240 (for sure 24/7 stable) @ 224.xx$ shipped :)
11-05-2005, 03:06 AM
dimasdw

got ZX this Evening..and this my First Test ^_^

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4...32pi7vi.th.jpg
What the Vddr limit for this Ram ,is Ok to give 3.0 V and Up Volt ?
are this Ram need Cooler Fan ?
11-05-2005, 03:25 AM
Vapor

Don't give it more than 3V....in most cases performance deteriorates above 2.9V anyway.
11-06-2005, 10:39 AM
kido

look at this...

http://bbs.argstorm.com/UploadFile/2...0123027257.jpg

http://bbs.argstorm.com/UploadFile/2...0115615299.jpg

the mosel chip:

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/f...tMvqt4c7Js.jpg

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/f...Q1Pjc2gBtj.jpg

the Infineon chip:

http://bbs.gzeshop.com/attachments/f...a4Y0oavZh3.jpg

so what the hell the zx is?
11-06-2005, 04:20 PM
Dave_Sz

It's infineon.
11-07-2005, 03:16 AM
NapalmV5

from those pics, don look to be neither mosel nor infineon - so wat ic is it ?

im very interested... but wat ic on these HX ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231034
11-07-2005, 07:18 AM
Rattle

I ordered a kit of the ZX
11-07-2005, 11:59 AM
GSKILL TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimasdw

got ZX this Evening..and this my First Test ^_^

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4...32pi7vi.th.jpg
What the Vddr limit for this Ram ,is Ok to give 3.0 V and Up Volt ?
are this Ram need Cooler Fan ?

u should lower it a bit, 2.8~2.9v is good enough to do it i think :)
11-07-2005, 01:31 PM
aicjofs

GSTech,

What kind of improvement have you seen for that higher voltage range?

I didn't gain a single Mhz over 265 from 2.6v to 2.85v, of course I'm not complaining, I figure I'm at the RAM max. Just curious what kind of gains you saw if any.

With 2.85v I couldn't get 2.5-3-3-x @ 250 either. Seems like my RAM is happy at 2.6V, and no extra voltage made a difference.

Why I am thinking about it...is there anything you would do to my timings for improvement? I haven't changed anything since my last post, but I'll post a pic again so you don't have to go back.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg
11-07-2005, 01:37 PM
dimasdw

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S Technician

u should lower it a bit, 2.8~2.9v is good enough to do it i think :)

now i use 2.9 V for 24/7 use ..:)
11-07-2005, 02:51 PM
Marquzz

I'm running my ZX with 2.85V right now, 100% stable at 250MHz 3-3-3-8 on DFI RDX with a 3200+ venice @ 2500
11-08-2005, 09:23 AM
GSKILL TECH

u might want to try read to write to 3, that maybe help u some few mhz. adding some voltage helps like 5~10 mhz for me, but it really depends on the IC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aicjofs

GSTech,

What kind of improvement have you seen for that higher voltage range?

I didn't gain a single Mhz over 265 from 2.6v to 2.85v, of course I'm not complaining, I figure I'm at the RAM max. Just curious what kind of gains you saw if any.

With 2.85v I couldn't get 2.5-3-3-x @ 250 either. Seems like my RAM is happy at 2.6V, and no extra voltage made a difference.

Why I am thinking about it...is there anything you would do to my timings for improvement? I haven't changed anything since my last post, but I'll post a pic again so you don't have to go back.

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/gskill.jpg
11-08-2005, 10:12 AM
IceMole

Put a set in my cart last night for $213, went back at a little past midnight to order and it jumped back to $222, must've been a 1 day only sale. My set should be here tomorrow :)
11-08-2005, 12:21 PM
Dave_Sz

No, they were for $213 for a few days.
11-08-2005, 08:52 PM
romeon

Hello,

How about dividers? Does ZX ram run without problems using dividers?

Thank you.
11-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Dave_Sz

If you have problems running memory with dividers it's the weak memory controller in your CPU, not the ram.
11-08-2005, 11:35 PM
Freez

These are supposed to show up in a few hours with my new Opteron 146. Hoping to get some good clocks :D

Do these modules get hot enough to warrant active cooling?
11-09-2005, 08:01 AM
Okda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freez

Do these modules get hot enough to warrant active cooling?

This is a question that i will be waiting for its answer

i am planning to run my ram @ Vdimm 2.6~2.7, will this need an active cooling like my UTT @ 3.2 or not ?
11-09-2005, 09:05 AM
GSKILL TECH

hmmmm, air cooling is good if you want to add over 2.8v

using memory divider is really depends on CPU and memory, but more on CPU side. i don't have any problem on g.skill's testing machine. which run with 3000+ (for rma testing) or opty146.
11-09-2005, 12:46 PM
Dave_Sz

Ok, so my new sticks do 260 and possibly might do 275+, they ran SPi32m at 270. Now, all of you posting shots of your ram with 32mPi runs, how many of you can actually run prime or stressprime LARGE(stress ram) FFTs for as long as you can run your CPU? Currently I'm running my ram at 245 with 3-3-2-5 at 2.88v or so. Last time it failed at 11m, so I upped the V a bit, changed TREF to 3702 from 3684, lower preamble, and now they are at 20, and going strong. I'm gonna let them run for 10 hours and see if they pass.
11-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Dave_Sz

I wouldn't use a divider smaller than 150 as the lower ones hurt performance. At 312 the memory is around 255 or so with the 166 divider. Run it at 3-3-3-5 ans see how it does.
11-09-2005, 07:30 PM
Okda

i think R stands for Retail
11-09-2005, 07:51 PM
Dave_Sz

R stands for retail, this was already resolved.
11-09-2005, 08:06 PM
Dave_Sz

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceMole

I've got to be doing somethign wrong, I've never had such problems with ram and getting it to boot. First off I tried the techs settings for 250 and that's really a no go. I tried 3-3-3-8 and it won't even go over 225. I reset the bios, is there anything I need to touch other then the basic timings and voltage? Also going up to 2.8 or 2.9v does nothing. Other ram lets me run any divider I want, this stuff I can't touch anything below 166 which is killing my OC with a 9x multi. :stick:

Most is set to auto so here's what it's doing...I've never felt more like I've never overclocked then I do right now. Maybe because I've never been into doing much with the ram.

I'd be satisfied if I could just get it to run 312x9 with 133div @ 200

Ok in the BIOS, memory configuration set your values to this

166 or 150
enable
3
3
5
2
9
13
2
2
2
2
3072
auto
enabled
auto
0
level 7
level 3
7ns
normal
5ns
256enable
16x
07x
disable

Have your dram voltage at 2.8
What bios are you using?
How stable is your CPU at 312x9? How many hours of prime does it pass with those settings?
11-09-2005, 09:24 PM
IceMole

Still no go dave, just going to send back and take the 15% restock :stick:
11-09-2005, 09:51 PM
Dave_Sz

I got mine to run 3-3-2-0 at 246. No peformance difference than 3-3-2-5. It can run 3-3-0-0.
11-10-2005, 08:23 AM
Okda

which type of bios is prefered on the DFI's NF4 mobos

-1 or -2 or 03 ?
11-10-2005, 09:23 AM
Dave_Sz

Doesn't seem to matter with this ram. -1 is a general bios, as in for most ram. -3 is for tccd and -2 is for bh5.
11-10-2005, 10:11 AM
aicjofs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Sz

Ok, so my new sticks do 260 and possibly might do 275+, they ran SPi32m at 270. Now, all of you posting shots of your ram with 32mPi runs, how many of you can actually run prime or stressprime LARGE(stress ram) FFTs for as long as you can run your CPU? Currently I'm running my ram at 245 with 3-3-2-5 at 2.88v or so. Last time it failed at 11m, so I upped the V a bit, changed TREF to 3702 from 3684, lower preamble, and now they are at 20, and going strong. I'm gonna let them run for 10 hours and see if they pass.

My 2 tests for total system stability are : 12hrs Prime, 2 hours of playing BF2(induce video card heat into the case.). After that I call it good.

Everything is fine. I'm only at 255Mhz with 2.6v though...
11-10-2005, 10:19 AM
GSKILL TECH

bios -1 gives best performance.

@ IceMole
you can try to RMA to Newegg to ask for replacement.
they will send you a new set. if that still not work at your machine, then ask for refund is better way to do it.
but everything need to do quick.
11-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Rattle

These stix are awful for me, on a DFI with a 3700 I cant get into windows at anyting above 220, regardless of timings or voltage.
My 3700 did 300X9 1:1 with TCCD.
I know this is different but 220???
I will be sending mine back.
11-10-2005, 08:41 PM
Dave_Sz

I just noticed that with 3-3-7-2-9-13 I have better PI and bandwidth scores than with 3-3-5-2-9-13. Funny thing is that 3dmark scores have NOT CHANGED AT ALL by going from 2.5-3-3-6 with the 1gb tccd to 3-3-2-7 with the g.skill.
11-10-2005, 11:15 PM
Rattle

Ok I was able to get into windows at 225, anything over 222 fails prime instantly and loosening timings to 3-4-4-8 has no effect and neither does voltage up to 2.9.

Right now I'm at 267X10 with 166 divider memory at 222 @ 2.75 volts running prime. 3-3-2-5 timings. Loosening or adjusting all the other dram settings has got me no where whatsoever...

Do these things need to burn in?
Did I get a set of crap or are the ones hitting 250-270 cherry picked.

My first G.Skill experience is turned out to be rather dissapointing. Only pulling 6450 mb/s.

With my 1 gig kit I was able to get 7000+ with 11X250 1:1 thats what I was hoping for with these but I guess it serves me right for expecting over 200.

:mad:

Prime95 running 6 hours, man 2gigs is sweet, can prime and fly around in windows and internet lol.

Any GSkill guys have any suggestion to try and get me sticks higher ??

I need 245 at least out of these puppies before I will think about keeping them.

I guess if I wanted DDR500 I should have gotten these :slapass:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021
11-11-2005, 07:41 AM
Freez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattle

Ok I was able to get into windows at 225, anything over 222 fails prime instantly and loosening timings to 3-4-4-8 has no effect and neither does voltage up to 2.9.

Right now I'm at 267X10 with 166 divider memory at 222 @ 2.75 volts running prime. 3-3-2-5 timings. Loosening or adjusting all the other dram settings has got me no where whatsoever...

Do these things need to burn in?
Did I get a set of crap or are the ones hitting 250-270 cherry picked.

My first G.Skill experience is turned out to be rather dissapointing. Only pulling 6450 mb/s.

With my 1 gig kit I was able to get 7000+ with 11X250 1:1 thats what I was hoping for with these but I guess it serves me right for expecting over 200.

:mad:

Prime95 running 6 hours, man 2gigs is sweet, can prime and fly around in windows and internet lol.

Any GSkill guys have any suggestion to try and get me sticks higher ??

I need 245 at least out of these puppies before I will think about keeping them.

I guess if I wanted DDR500 I should have gotten these :slapass:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021

did you try usin the posted settings by the G.Skill tech? I just poppsed them in, set up those settings, and viola! Memtested stable at 265 for 12 hours at 2.8 volts. Im using the 704-2BT BIOS and havent had one problem.
11-11-2005, 07:54 AM
Rattle

yeah i tried the exact setttings, Not sure what bios he's using but I'm using same bios as you.

BTW check windows, cuz memtest doesnt mean windows stability...

EDIT :

went back and changed my settings to the techs and again no windows at 226, at 225 I get into windows but instant prime95 failure. They did go thru prime at 222 for 8 hours no problem. Figured after a good burn in they may get more but no way.

Oh well
11-11-2005, 09:35 AM
Dave_Sz

I'm at 246mhz on the ram and my bandwidth is 6900mbs and I don't care. Why? Because sandra or everest are about as good at telling you real world performance as Yugo is at making cars. You have a AMD processor, CPU mhz is all that matters with memory making a 2-4% difference. I benched my old set of 1gb ram at 270mhz with 2-4-3-7 timings at 270 and it scored the same at 3dmark, all 3 of them as I do now with 3-3-2-7 at 246.
11-11-2005, 10:09 AM
IceMole

Rattle mine have the same problem. Can't run faster then 225 and won't really run with a divider lower then 166 or 150, being my Opty 144 is a 9x multi it limits me to about 2400mhz. I can throw in a pair of 2gb geils and use any divider I want, this opty is 2800 @ 1.4v 24hr prime stable, with the G.Skills I can't even boot over 2400. I already filled out the newegg return and went to mail them back today except post office is closed for vet. day. Cost me $225 and I'll get $188 back for the refund, kinda sucks for having them 24hrs. I haven't tried them at 2T yet and being I have the weekend with them yet I may just get them out of the box and try.
11-11-2005, 10:46 AM
ExtraPickles

Same results here, right about 220 1:1 tops with Ultra-D and 623-3 or 704-2BTA BIOS after 2 days of trying all settings here and then some.

-pickles
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM
Rattle

sry dudes we are in the same boat, I'm swapping mine for the black Gskills that do 3-4-4-8 and ddr500 out of the box, they are $245, should ahve done that to begin with. These are still the most cost effective stix even though they dont overclock worth a damn...

I gotta have 250 !!!

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