Mine is said to be delivered on Friday. Yes, I did cheapo UPS ground... I'm an idiot, but I'll probably be back here when I get it in. Will be using it on my current W/C system.
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Mine is said to be delivered on Friday. Yes, I did cheapo UPS ground... I'm an idiot, but I'll probably be back here when I get it in. Will be using it on my current W/C system.
[QUOTE=evetS-]Here are some pre-results, I just got mine, and booted it up. I tried 300x9 on stock volts, no go, so i tried 290x9, 285x9 works for now. I'm gonna play around with it a bit.
LBBWE 0528 CPBW.
evetS,
you got those cpu @ ewiz...when did you bought them ?
I should order mine tonight...think i'll get 0528 like you ?
I was hoping a 052XAPXX like eage :(
Yeah, that may be...Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
When I posted, I was thinking that E3 = Venice, E4 = San Diego and E6 = both dual core cpu types.
Still, my point is that it would be nice to get the IHS off one of these to see what were dealing with. I may buy one just for that.
Gee, this sounds like AMD had so many bad X2s that they made the whole E6 line. I highly doubt this as it is a replacement for the E3 stepping (unless you're saying AMD doesnt even need to produce single core processors as the yields for X2s suck so bad :confused: ). Yea. Someone try to take the IHS off and get a good look. My friend just got his E6 3000+ today, and he may try some IHS stuff later.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrJay
One of my E6's week 28 from ewiz same code as the other guy's is doing 2.65 at 1.6 volts right now in my Chaintech. Can't get the other one stable at that speed on my brother's DFI, especially when we try to run the memory at a decent divider.
Once the other guy that posted the screen shot tells me what bios he's using, I'll try that on the DFI I have here.
Things aren't looking great for these cpus from my point of view, and I have two on hand.
I ordered one of these yesterday just for the hell of it. :D If I decide to keep it, I'll take the ihs off and post some pics.
Clearly, I'm not making any definitive statements. I'm only saying it would be nice to get a look at the core....nothing more, nothing less. It probably will end up being a 'normal' 512k, Venice die.....still, its worth taking a look if, for nothing else, the cooling benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmo580
Ummm... i think you guys are missing something...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=99
The OP looks to not actually have an E6 according to AMD... s/he has a normal E6 explained by the FFO instead of the FF2 (as seen on evetS-'s Chip) seen in CPUID.
You guys need to read below. The E6 is coming for X2's as well.
There is the JH-E6 revision, which looks to be just for dual-core processors. For Athlon 64 X2 processors, it will have a CPUID of 00020F32h.
The other E6 revision is the DH-E6 revision, which will have a stepping of 00020FF2h (for A64s and Semprons).
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00795/
too bad...eage chip is the ilke 0517 E3 :P
cherry picked :slapass:
hi guys, I was dead tired after my first pre-results post, and fell asleep. I just got up, and it's time to do some OCing!!...well after i re-register avast!, because of reseting the cmos, but after that OCing!!!
I'm kind of dissapointed but not at the same time :confused:
2.7ghz @ 1.56v still priming, 2-3 hours now (forgot when i started)...
http://www.evetstech.com/pixx/2700.JPG
Remember the X2 has one large die with two cores unlike Intel that uses two dies with one core eachQuote:
Originally Posted by dmo580
I use OCCT instead of Prime95, finds errors in seconds or minutes vs hours with Prime 95. Saved my brother and I lots of time.
I agree OCCT is faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
Well a large die should be easily spotted as opposed to just a single core die.... Anyone take it off yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by WOLF_OF_DK
You sure about the Intel twodies+onecoreeach? I think their 65nm chips are supposed to be like that to improve yields (they don't need two cores next to each other on the wafer to be matched), but they haven't done it yet with their 90nm DC parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOLF_OF_DK
Does anyone else other than ewiz have the E6 Venices? It's now priced lower than the E3 by the way...
so is there a high chance these E6's are good? i got a good deal on a 3200 Venice E6...
Sorry,i know i am maybe boring but what can you say to me about A64 3000+ from week 24???I need a quick answer.
week 24 is ordinary ...look for week 15, 17Quote:
Originally Posted by GIGAFAN
just ordered an E6 3000+
Don't expect what OP got...I got my hopes up, but now i'm kind of dissappointed on what I got just because I was expecting to run 2.7ghz on stock volts. But It's not a bad chip. My temps got crazy high when I went for 2.8ghz, so I stopped at 2.7. I'm now using 9x290 @ 1.4v for every day use, which I found is pretty damn stable. I ran prime, and did super pi 32m at the same time, then continued to prime for about 5 hours, then stopped and played some cs:s, no crashes.
Edit:: For benching, i'm going to shoot for 2.8+, but if it goes over 50C, i'm gonna stop :(
Got mine yesterday, stuck it under a sonic tower. Temps are WAY low, running at 1.375v with 30C idle (pretty warm today here too).
First impressions are that this chip looks as good as the E3's. More detailed results later - however I'm using an old Antec Smart Power at the moment because of issues with the seaonic s12.... :(
I ran OCCT stability test, and it passed, but i ran prime after that, and it failed after 9 hours, which would mean occt isn't that great....Quote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
The OCCT stability test sucks(the 30 minutes one). Use the torture test. I've had a cpu pass the 30 minute stability test, but fail the torture test in less than a minute.
Prime95 takes way too long to crash just when you think you're stable. OCCT is good for quickly finding a speed that's just too high, then backing down slowly until it runs stable for a few minutes, then hours, then run your Prime95, etc.
The chip I got isn't a very good chip, 0528 E6.
290x9 @ 1.7v on a Sonic Tower (no fan) 47C. Ambient is quite cold at night though guessing round 20-22C.
This is NOT stable, I've only done 8M superpi, will do more detailed stability analysis soon.
:300x9 not stable. 1.731v on the multimeter and I'm reluctant to push it any more since its on passive.
WHOA...1.7v? What stepping? last 4 letters? I got a 0528 as well, but mine can do 290x9 at 1.4v, but it takes 1.56v to do 300x9. These are all prime stable. I was able to boot up at 330x9 with 1.65v, but when i ran prime for about 2 minutes, the temps scared me, so i stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixce
Mine totally sucks! Its a week 26. Cant do more then 2550 at cas 2.5,3,6,3 mem timings.. I have to run at cas 3 just to go up to 265=2650Mhz. This Gskill TCCD LE didnt have this prob with my FX-55 chip.
I was thinking that maybe its one of the 2 512 sticks so i just tried one at a time and managed 275x10 and it was fine at the lower timings.. but just one stick.. I swaped the sticks and the other does the same so all i'm thining is that either this chip sucks or this one has a really bad mem controller or defective.
Its going back to the store for an exchange.. and after what i'm seeing i dont think i'll be jumpin on another E6 chip this time.
OMG eclypse, your avatar, what website!! I wanna buy one!
eclypse, does cpuz reports your e6 as ff2, like evets?
:D
http://www.thinkgeek.com/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/388b/
Ever great while i get asked this and every time its a bish to find the web site.. hehe
Enjoy!
Oh theres plenty of other shirts ext.. there.
I dont have the newest version of cpuz to see.. and that computer dont have an internet connect since the newest wb's for the vid cards took my only PCI slot for my wireless card..Quote:
Originally Posted by high5
I'll see if theres some why to get this done.
It's a 0528GPDW. I'm not on a good power supply at the moment because my new Seasonic doesn't work with it, but I will see if I can get a better OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by evetS-
I'm just not reading right or are you complaining about your chip being not so good and running it @ 1,73v with PASSIVE AIR COOLING...Quote:
Originally Posted by ixce
:slapass:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oc-cba
If temps are under 50C I'm happy :), sonic tower is amazing....unless my thermal diode is borked.
Edit: I think PSU is holding me back, using an ancient antec smart power 20pin. Can't hit 2.385 @1.456v stable =\
Do all boards support reading from the Athlon 64's internal diode?
@Doom5:
If the S939 board can show any kind of cpu temperature, it has to read it from the A64's internal diode.
An external sensor can't be built in to the socket.
Received LBBWE 0528GPDW today. I have been testing for about 2 hours now, and this has to be the worst chip I have ever owned. 2.3ghz at 1.58v is the best it'll do, and that's not stable. Even raising fsb 5mhz at stock volts freezes. Runs fine at stock, and cool too. Idles at about 27C Primed for about 20 min at stock, temp only went to 36C. I was going to pop the top on this, but I think now it's ebay bound. I wont even offer it up here, unless someones wants a stock chip :lol:
30mn vs 9hrs come on man!Quote:
Originally Posted by evetS-
Anyway if you want extreme stability I agree prime is better, but OCCT is just realy more time efficient, even the 30min test provide a decent stability - definitively better than 32M. And I apreciate the graphs that gets out.
About torture beeing more efficient than I´ll have to look a this, but seams to me quite odd if it don´t use the same presigers for both.
Hi guys,
Just had the chance to test a revision E6 3000+ with the stepping code LBBWE 0530 EPAW. I only had a short time to test so i tried 300x9 with 1.45v and 310x9 with 1.55v, both failed to load windows. Shame really, i was hoping it would be better than my current LBBLE 0516 GPAW running at 300x9 1.45v.
I have a feeling a lot of E6 3000+ CPUs will be up for sale @ ebay soon. :lol:
hey guys, is 53 degrees C too high for a 3000+ venice under load?
try to keep it under 50C...maybe invest in a better heatsink or remove IHS will help
Holding the fort at 1.73v trying to get 290x9 stable. I put a fan on the sonic tower, temps are in the 44's but my max case temp is 53C? So if I keep it under 50C i can increase past 1.8v right?
looks like most of these E6 3000 suck sheeit! :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by xenolith
OMG !! E6 stepping is suck ??
Wow everyones getting crap chips now. I guess mine was a fluke huh? Oh well 117, you can't go wrong, I'm sure you'll make your money back selling it on ebay
Quote:
Originally Posted by ixce
I do not suggest going that high on air...
Oh, no, Zanr Zij said that E6 is a good stepping :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xs64
It's a temperature thing, not a voltage thing. If you keep your temps low, voltage is fine. Why else do watercooling people push to 1.9 and some phase changers push to 2? If your temps are good, go ahead. Just keep it below 55Quote:
Originally Posted by aznblueeboi
yea but his temps aren't that great....and even people on water usually don't venture to 1.8. It probably won't scale and will just put out excess heat. Who knows...his chip might scale great with 1.8 volts, but the 64's are a smaller process and usually do not like that big a hike in voltage.
Ye, right!Quote:
Originally Posted by eage
Boxed cooler,
1.34 volts,
2.7GHz.
->
29ºC LOAD!!
:bs:
Edit: Hmm. Ok, it's not load temp but still those temps at 2.7 GHz on a boxed is impossible.
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I just got my stuff from Ewiz today. One whole week to get the ground shipping, lol. Anyways, it's a LBBWE 0528CPBW. How are these doin? I think evetS-, and AiRAzN23 got them as well. How are they doin? Mine will be goin on water to replace my current Venice... let's hope it works out well. I'm hopefully going to have time Sunday to do this b/c I'm busy tonight and tomorrow. :(
I got the same stepping from eWiz also earlier this week. The best this thing will do is 2.5GHz @ 1.6V prime overnight. I was hoping for 9x300 @ 2.7GHz, but can't even prime for 1 minute with 2.6GHz. Very very disappointed in this new BW/E6 chip. I wished I had purchased the BP stepping instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0dM@n
largon,Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
I noticed under CPU-Z your revision shows E3. Can you post the exactly stepping of your cpu please?
The supposed BW/E6 cpu I purchased from eWiz leaves the revision box as blank under CPU-Z (v1.30).
I guess you don't even need to ask about these any more. After reading the whole thread, it's pretty apparent that the lastest venices, E6s, are pretty bad on the average. There will always be a few exceptions however.
:( I guess I'm the only one that got a good chip huh? Godman has the same batch and stepping as me, so it'll be interesting to see what he can do. If he can't scale as high then that means we can finally put that stepping myth to rest
My 3000+ E6 from ewiz will be here on Monday. If it's the same stepping as the rest of the turds coming out of this ewiz batch I doubt I'll waste my time with even opening it. :p:
I'm thinking of selling mine before it even gets to me. :rolleyes:
The screenie isn't mine, I was quoting the thread starters results...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhya
got mine....roomate tells me its 0529...I'll see how it does when I get back...
If I were you, I'd run prime a little longer than 5 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by evetS-
My cursed cbbid @ 2.6GHz gave an error after priming 11 hours 3 mins 49 secs.
Edit: This screenie is an example of a bug in CPU-Z. (if using multiple desktop progs while browsing the other screens, CPU-Z will reset all running copys to show the CPU-page)
Edit3: It seems SP2004 doesn't actually detect anything... Just estimates.
My chip seems to hit a wall at 290x9, can't get it stable even at 1.77v. Anyways, 260x9 for everyday seems decent to me...pretty bad OC if you ask me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ixce
don't say only :D ! plzz post ur screenie and all info on ur CPU. Thx. I can't believe that E rev badly like that :D
e6 should be f-f-2 (family-model-stepping in cpuz).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhya
I'll prime it for longer when I get back from my vacation. I primed it for about 9 or 10 hrs actually, don't remember but I stopped it to play some cs s for 3 or 4 hours so I think its pretty damn stable. ill get back to you guys on it on tuesday or wed.
There you go - 1.45v at the moment, before you say I can go higher, I'm on a sonic tower, I can't get these low temps on hot days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanr Zij
12 hours prime95 and still going.
The 300x9, is totally unstable, can't even start superpi. I just wanted a screenie of it =\.
Sun tapaus saattaa johtua tosta 150* jakajasta ja ens kerralla ajele mielummin Large niin siinä prioriteetti enemmän prossun testaamisessa.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Sorry for the Finnish language, Largon can translate :D
@Dani:
Jaa, enpäs itseasiassa tullut ollenkaan ajatelleeksi jakajan häröilyä syyksi epävakauteen. Se voipi hyvinkin olla syynä.
Kun tuossa shotissa on testauksessa 24/7 kellot, ei muistien kelloja voi paljoa nostaa ilman merkittävästi suurempaa vDimm:iä - eli ilman tuuletinta.
Vilkaseppas muuten tämä.
Huh?
Woot , that's cool , my crappy Winny need 1.5v Vcore to stable at 2.34Ghz :rofl: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ixce
OMFG !! So almost E6 Venice are suck , latest chips are suck , AMD did it again :ROTF:
mine is 2.7ghz stable with 1.45V...or was it more...I forget...I could suicide screen to 3GHz though :)
Is the E6 stepping available in Canada yet?
*sigh* I cant decide if I should get this from ewiz or a retail BP from monarch. Anyone know how the latest 3000+bp OC's?
They all suck! I tried a E6 3200+ and the best i could do was 2650 and i'm not even sure that was stable.. Pretty close to 1.7v.
The new 3000+ BP week 25 chip i have now can only do 2550-2600 at 1.7v.
Great water cooling ofcourse.
Here's my E6 suicide shot...I know its not very meaningful because its not stable, but this 0529 E6 is better than my 0516 E3 (2.7 Stable)...
the temps are horrible on oem cooler...pump coming in the next couple of days from RMA so I might pop off the IHS on the E6 (E3 already popped off)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=32852
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/32852.png
aznblueeboi, what's the stepping of that chip? And what speed/voltage is it stable at?
It's a suicide shot...I know its stable at 2.7 right now...but I'm waiting for my WC to get setup and probably remove the IHS to see if I can go 2.8+ stable
LBBWE 0529 CPDW is the E6 stepping...
FWIW my E6 is running 2.6 @ 1.5 right now burning in, very stable so far, hoping for lower vcore. I did have it stable at 2.75 using 1.6v but I was told this was too much for air even though my load temp was 44C. I didn't bother to push it higher then 2.75 after I read that. I have the same stepping as evetS-
1.6 is fine for air, im on 1.625 cuz my chip sucks and wont go past 290x9
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3...09949bl.th.jpg
Been sitting on my desk since Monday, haven't had time to pop it in yet. :(
From the looks of it though this will probably be just a "so so" chip. :(
How do you think abput this??
I have bought a 3000+ BW (E6 revision), and here are my first results...
Stepping:
http://www.metamods.com/Imagenes/Ven...W/IMG_0424.jpg
SuperPi 8Mb @ 2900, 1.66v (watercooled)
http://www.metamods.com/Imagenes/Ven...2900%20Mhz.JPG
I think that it has more room to go up, but I have it from yesterday, I have to tweak a little bit more...
Tell me your opinions... :D
Mine does 2.8 watercooled...
I popped off the IHS...and for anyone interested, the die size is the same as the E3 stepping
If you can get it prime stable @2.9GHz, I'd say you have a very good one there Lord.
Of course, the one I got has a different stepping, dang my luck... :(
I havent tried Prime, but SuperPi 32Mb and 3dMark05 run perfectly @ 2922... :D :D :D
I also have a suicide screenshot @ 3050 Mhz... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I think that I am lucky getting this little beast... :cool:
Does anyone have 0530CPFW is it good or not?
tnx
Are there any results of a 3200+ E6? I need the 10x multiplier, because the HTT of my motherboard is limited to 280 MHz and I want more than 2520 MHz...
Mine was a week 26 E6 3200 i believe and it sucked hard at 2550-2650 max.. Though i didnt play around with a 3/4 mult or anything other then 1/1 mult untill i swaped it for a crappy 3000+ BP that will only do 2600Mhz but at 1.72v.
Then use a multi... there'll be absolutely no performance hit, none.Quote:
Originally Posted by d4n13l
EDIT: I meant divider... sorry. What mobo do you have?
I have got a Shuttle SN95G5 barebone with nForce3 Ultra chipset. I don't liek using clockgen, so it would be nice having a 10x multiplier and up to 2800MHz selectable in the BIOS setup. At the moment I'm running a 3000+ BI @ 280 x 9.
I just sold my CBBWE 0528CPBW. I barely got it to windows at 300x9 ~1.65-1.66v... that wasn't even close to stable.
Compared to my current Venice it's a waste... already shipped it out. I'm sure it woulda done alright, but not as well as what I have right now.
I haven't done much overclocking in my E6 but it done some very fast and it rebooted at 2700mhz so..
Xyus
I'm stable at 2.65 with my 3500. RAM currently holding me back
LBBWE 0528APAW 1.6v
Hmm looks like the newer chips are'nt doing so well compared to week 15 to 26
I have 2 E6 chips, a 3000 0530cpfw and a 3200 0531epaw. Both hit a wall at 2500-2530, with the 3000 being more stable. I just got my e3 and it passed OCCT at 2700.
i got a 0528 GPFW i cant even do 2500.....but one thing about my chip is that it runs really how 40-42 idle and 54+ load even at stock......with XP90 and a really good ventilated case....im changing it in coulpe days but also for a even never e6 (at least i got to choose from 20 of them)
does anyone else have experience with week 30+ cores?
This was given on air.
I can run 330 htt on memtest for hours but doesnt run windows.
This is my suicide shot running 32 bits. On 64 bits I can't run over 300 htt
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5205/3108bc.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkSP
Humm, it seems that newer E6 arent doing so well... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Here it is my suicide screenshot with my E6 0529 APEW watercooled:
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/2...idio1rj.th.jpg
3050 Ghz, of course unstable...
Max I have got 100% stable is 2922 Mhz with 1.69v and 2900 Mhz with 1.66v.
Look at this 0.03v necesary to go up only 22 Mhz... :stick:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_RTKK
seems that only week 29 are decent all others seem to suck for now, wonder what was different about that week :confused: