that seems like a very good temp since you have two graphic cards in the loop aswell what is the room temp?
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that seems like a very good temp since you have two graphic cards in the loop aswell what is the room temp?
Nice looking setup, one thing though. Fans are more efficient at pulling air through the radiator rather than pushing it though, so you should move the fans to the rear of it. Also, it looks like the line from the rad to your reservoir could me shortened up a bit, nice work though.
Can you please make a pic how you connect your monitors?
ps. I like your system specs and Dells :toast:
....call me crazy teecee....but you have your storm block in backwards, you are pumping water into the outlet.
sure is :)
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Originally Posted by vapb400
Yeah, you are correct. That is an older pic. I changed it and got the EXACT same temps. So either it doesnt matter or my two GPU blocks being in front raise the temps.
TeeCee could you please make more pics.
Also a pic from your DVI-cable does it fit easy????
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Originally Posted by cartmanea
It is long so that I may pull my res out of my 5.25 " slot to refill or drain it.
Very easy. Here are more picsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
http://www.jdover.com/blog/?p=4
teece, it makes a big differnece which way you have the flow in the waterblock.. your flowrates also went up garunteed when you switched it around the other way.
but the reason you didnt see any temp difference is the same reason for many things.. the el borked sensors of the cpu/mobo..
bill, would you mind commenting on what style of fin the radiator you designed uses? also which of the designs in your testing showed the greatest heat transfer to airflow restriction ratio. though i should assume that both of my questions have the same answer ;)
Does anyone else chuckle a bit when they see fan grills on the other side of the rad from the fans? :)
hey it could save your rad from accidental fin dammage. radiator fins are very fragile.
Thanks for the rewiew teecee, 40 at load is good.
Might try one of the blocks with my vapo bong cooler.
MR
paper on Assessing Radiator Performance pretty much done, Gabe to release ???
all types of rads, most players
no benefit to discussing the specifics of rad design,
data upon which to base decisions is very expensive, more so than wbs
- for me rads are MUCH more difficult to design than wbs, probably a reflection of my limited experience in this area (and the greater complexity of analysis, lol)
ohwell. was hoping for some more insight into radiator design. more info the better i say.. just as long as I can make sense of it ;)
bill, I'll prolly post the whitepaper on the front page as it is pretty big news in the WC'ing community. Erick said the 12-T beat out the BIX, contrary to my findings. Im curious about more info on this.
I hope you included your test setup as I am very curious as to what all you're using.
http://overclockers.com/articles1250/
Here is a nice review!
`why is nobody interestet in the best set ever?
Why are you saying that ? At least i am ... :D . I ordered mine a few days ago .....i`ve not tested yet .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
Great if you have build the set in please post your results.
could anyone tell me if you can swap out the rad for say a BIX3 and still be able to mount it from the rear of the case? Thanks!
dont see why nt, but then you may as well buy custom and buy the rear rad mount seperateQuote:
Originally Posted by AlterBridge86
I haven't ever owned a BIX3 so I'm not certain, but what if you had a very light aluminum case. Could you perhaps risk the chance of your case leaning over or perhaps something else breaking from having so much weight hanging off the rear? How heavy do those triple-rads get when they are full?Quote:
Originally Posted by bacon
they dont hold that much water but at a guess they must weigh a kg or 2 so filled up, prob so wrong here (cant remember my 120.3 weight on is own as it was always bolted to case)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouchy
i spose it may bend the case if its weak, it wont tip up, the weight of a psu, drives, mobo etc all exceed the weight of a triple rad, plus the fact a alu case weighs min 6kg
bix3 is rather heavy even without water, but it will mount to the case with absolutely no issues as far as strength of hte case is concerned.
Someone with an x2 buy one and be my guinea pig :)
Are you running the set yet? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
Hey guys .. how do you attach the Black Ice radiators to your cases? What bolts should I use for the rad and for attaching the fans on the rad.
Not yet . Still on box , not oppened . Waiting for the rest of the parts . :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
i've been very interested in this kit since trolling this side of the forums. this'll be my first water setup so i was wondering what the estimated load temps between this and a danger den setup with the TDX waterblock would be. i'd rather go with the kit since it has everything i'll need and that radbox deal with the fans to boot. i'm completely new to water so please be patient with me. i really need to get this tornado off my gpu and quiet things down and cool down this clawhammer do i can get some decent overclocks out of it.
ur temp differnce will be impossible to predict (and anyone who tells you otherwise is so full of crap their eyes are brown), but it will be a little bit better than if you went with a TDX and danger den setup..
btw i suggest switching out the stock fans that come with the apex.. they are ok, but if you are looking for good quiet fans, they do not really fit hte bill..
i predict (through my magic 8-ball or physics nonsense) 38 degrees Celsius!Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
btw... my eyes are brown XD
I have two spare 120mm Panaflo Ultra High here . Do you think i should switch ? I really don't know how sensitive is this rad to the air flow .....Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
BTW , You said that because of the noise or airflow ?
you mean the U1A's? that's what i have and they are by no means quiet... i think maxxx is referring to a more silent fan with decent performance like nexxus or silenx.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
This oneQuote:
Originally Posted by moonlightcheese
The model is FBA12G12U . At 12v it is far away from "quiet" (45.5 dBA :D ) but it is rated at 114.7 CFM at 12v . I've heard it does a decent job at lower voltages and it is also silent .
yea i believe those are the one's i have. they are loud as hell at 12V but i can turn them waaaaay down and get them pretty quiet. there's no way you can get these puppies quiet at 7V. i turn the things nearly all the way down (almost completely off) just to get them quiet. but then i also have mad turbulence on my rad so that probably accounts for a lot of it XDQuote:
Originally Posted by toledo
ok then i'll look at getting the swiftech setup then. i almost looked at the koolance exos 2 but without a waterblock it's already at $319 US. i want good cooling but i seriously doubt any performance gain the exos may have of the swiftech is worth almost another $100.
i decided i want good airflow over the rad but quiet ops so i'm going with a 4x120mm push pull setup. any suggestions on some good cfm QUIET 120's?
also is it worth it to go with the waterblock for the 6800 that covers the ram as well or are they limited to much so go with ram sinks? we're talking a $50-$80 difference depending if i go with the danger den solution ($125) or the Koolance($93) rather than the Maze4gpu ($45) and some ram sinks ($5).
no; watercooled video ram (or any ram for that matter) is worthless.
good to know. so it's the Maze4gpu then unless someone knows of a better gpu waterblock. thanks for all the info so far guys.
I'd wait for a bit on a GPU block, there have been 2 GPU blocks released in the past few days (one by AquaXtreme, one by swiftech). I'd recommend waiting and seeing how those stack up against current options.
thanks for the info. i won't be doing this till october so i'll definitely keep an eye out for these new blocks. any links to current info?
Edit: saw the MCW55 from Swiftech but no info really yet seems.
Bump for great set.
just got this kit the other day, and now I'm in the process of setting it up. I do have a question though. As you can see from Teecee's pictures, the highest place I can put the reservoir in is the second 5"25 bay(I have a P180 as well), since it would not fit in the top one. This makes the reservoir slightly lower than the top of the radiator, would this pose a problem when I'm bleeding the system? or will it just take a bit longer to do? This is my first WC setup as well, so any advice would be appreciated :)
You wont have any real issues. I do suggest that for part of the bleeding process you turn the case on its back so that the radiator tanks (where the barbs are) are the highest part of the radiator. this will allow the air to escape from the rad.
You won't have any problem getting the air out with the water velocity that pump pushes.
TeeCee I noticed you had a XP-120 before hand. I'm not trying to be a funny man when I ask, but how much did the temps drop after installing the watercooling?
I was just on the Frozen cpu website and was ready to submit my order for this kit... Not sure if it will cool much more than my Koolance Exos 1 (again not trying to be a smartass) but then again using 1.55volts and I see temps over 55c at times :(
Also as far as mounting that radiator. It is setup so I can use the existing mounting holes for my 80mm fans as well? I don't have a single 120mm in the rear, I have 2 80mm. It looked like it was 'adjustable' like that.
Is that green cooling liquid UV reactive or do I need to buy the die?
Sorry for all the questions but, I am 'this' close to getting this kit in hopes of hitting 2.8+ghz (stable@2.9ghz@1.6v now but too hot) wile staying well under 50c under full load.
To think I'm selling my Exos and getting this kit, just so I can get maybe 15 more FPS :rolleyes:
Doesn't matter. I put my res at the bottom of the system next to the pump so that it would be easier to fill. It bleeds all the same. The whole "highest part of the system" thing mostly just applies to bleed lines and not a res.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyp275
here are a few more questions :)
-is it better to have the fans push or pull air through the radiator? or should I consider a push-pull?
-what's a good 2x120mm shroud? most I've seen are single 120mm ones, and I don't know if there's enough space on the radiator to fit 2 of those single shrouds.
pull is better.. not sure if there are any shrouds that fit the apex's radiator..
A friend has the Apex Extreme and he bought 2 very cheap 120MM fans and then gut it out to use the shell as shroud.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyp275
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Originally Posted by Teecee
Well, you can't cut the two 23mm holes with a screwdriver. :rolleyes: