http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146190
72 bux for mushkin 3200 1gb!!!! are these any good because 150 bux for 2gig dual channel is nice deal if the oc any good that is
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146190
72 bux for mushkin 3200 1gb!!!! are these any good because 150 bux for 2gig dual channel is nice deal if the oc any good that is
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Updated db.
Yeah I saw that mushkin im tempted to pick up a couple sticks of it.
If that mushkin could do 225mhz id buy it. 225mhz is the minimum ram speed ill except because none of my dividers below 150 work.
yeah im looking for something to run atleast 250mhz cas 3-3-3 or better before i buy i want to run 1-1 11x250 for my cpu to max out
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ok ok this stuff is still doin great. couldnt run at 280 @ 2.9 volts. Dropped to 2.6v @ 3-3-3-8 280 now no errors on memtest. Running super pi 32m and other benchmarks will be posting in about 30min if all goes well. till then...http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=26629
Listing updated.
VERY nice again, nugzo!!
Quick question...what's the color of the PCB on your Ballistix?
Oh, EnJoY....might as well put up that 200 2.5-2-2-5 I posted earlier...I won't have anything better for a very long time, if ever (decided to check exactly how stable my sticks were [the 263 I had was in NO way stable] and they couldn't get through an entire memtest run at any voltages at 250 3-4-4-8....RMA in process).
its black. ballistix tracer (ones with teh pretty lights) 280 was doin fine in memtest. wont pass super pi 32m tho. gonna mess with timings tomorrow.
Mine was black too....couldn't be BP808 then, could it? I wonder if the better sticks are tracer...?
One things for sure, the thread somehow got un-stickied?
Just noticed that too....very odd.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=26642
http://img253.echo.cx/my.php?image=a640708054vl.png
hopefully i'll have time for some cl3 tomorrow.
edit-before that i'm throwing on some 2.5-4-4-8 as suggested. be back tomorrow
Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
can you run cl 2,5 at 250 fsb?
My Ballistix come in tomorrow. I tried ordering the ones with no lights from Crucial, but they're located here in Texas so that would mean I would pay taxes and shipping which came out to more than 410.00. I ordered the sticks from newegg, they only had the tracer ones though.
I hope my luck is as good as you guys.
Anybody who has some working -5B D (i.e., I can't answer my own question)....does setting 2T help? I remember seeing awhile back that 2T helped TREMENDOUSLY. Coulda been for something else though.
Yeah, yeah, I know that avoiding 2T is the reason why most of us got 2x1GB, but IIRC, the difference was like 40MHz and made up for the loss in spades.
EnJoY....I think you should include whether or not someone's Ballistix were tracer or not, I have this gut feeling the Tracer are better on average. Too bad the lights suck, else I'd return these (RMAing anyway) and spend the extra 30 on some Tracer.
AMD-Me over at an OCForums thread claims Smasung UCCC in their PC3700 1gig sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgioprimo
All the results for the 2x1024 set-up is 1T. I'm just gaming with those sticks right now. Any time I have for benching is going towards a Venice I just picked up and of course I'll be testing 2x512 to start. It may be a while before I detemine whether the Venice is fast enough to get a spot in my gaming rig. By then I may have elected to go with the Micron since it seems to kick ass. Wish the price would come down a bit ...Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgioprimo
Did this thread become unstickied?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
I'm also doing better.
Will post later links later, but I'm 32meg stable at 265mhz :)
Yes, I confirmed those on a previous page. I'm currently trying to work up some magic to OC this stupid VIA board. I can easily hit 235Mhz 1T, but unstable (due to mobo). Truth be told, I think these have a good chance of hitting higher freq's.Quote:
Originally Posted by philoni
Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgioprimo
nope, wont do 2.5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Actually the lights are pretty cool. thats the first thing people notice now. I wish 1 dimm wasn't hidden by my zalman. Tried the yellow slots for better visability but will not post in yellow no matter what bios i use.
What tREF and drive strength values are you guys using on your 1024MB modules? Especially the Crucial Ballistix and Value sticks.
3120 and auto for the drive srength.
and i wrote up an entire thread about the stuff here:Quote:
Originally Posted by bushmeal
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=66657
:D
Hey I have some more info! Heres a copy of my emailQuote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Code:That model uses either Micron -5BD or Elixir chips. The higher 3700 line uses the
Samsung UCCC
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: perek@CLEMSON.EDU
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:26:32 -0400 (EDT)
>> Hi,
>>
>> I spoke with you on the phone yesterday and promised you some information
>> on the module with part number ending in 9053. After speaking to someone
>> in our sales department, that model number is now discontinued and is
>> actually now known as our GR1DD8T-K2GB/433/2.5 model, which is the Mach
>> 1000 PC3500 in 2GB size. The ram timings are 2.5-4-4-7.
>>
>> Hope this answers your question.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________________________________
>> Sent via the WebMail system at gigaram.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Any idea on what type of chips to expect in it?
>Micron -5B D
>Samsung UCCC maybe?
>
>Thanks for the great response,
>Pere Kyle
Whats better.....
Micron -5B D @ high speeds and looser timings or tighter timings and lower speeds??
Thanks
seeing as my sticks top out at:
2.5-2-2 @ 203mhz
2.5-3-2 @ 223mhz (3-3-2, 2.5-3-3 are the same, interestingly enough)
3-3-3 @ 251mhz
i'd say the latter wins :D
I'd say high speeds too...
Higher with slightly slacker timings is faster overall in SuperPI/3Dmark for me
Can someone post a Sandra mem bench?
guys i have seen many reviews of ocz 2x1gb gold reaching ddr 480-500 with cas 3-3-3 and they are cheap!! 215 at newegg atm. i am suprised nobody has a review of that set as it seems exceptional and will oc much better then the platinum set which only does ddr440 altho at better timings thats still a poor oc. cmon anyone have a try at this set and does anyone know what chips they use in there???
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Here is a Mem Band width shot at 260mhz
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5...8mem9to.th.jpg
Anyone else? I'm using 3120 at the moment as well but a tREF value of 3120 is 200Mhz MEMCLCK 15.6us and 1GB DIMM's aren't going to have a higher refresh rate then 7.8us. I'm surprised their not 3.9us considering how 256MB DIMMs are 15.6us and 512MB are 7.8us.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
What about drive strength combinations? Do most of you just leave it to Auto or are you using normal or weak strengths?
gonna try 0016 and 3072
ok seem to be doin ok @ 3072. what's a good test to tell if i'm getting a performance change?
I think the tREF setting is primarily a stability setting more then it is a performance setting. I dont really know how you would test to find out if your using the best tREF setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Nice bandwidth...but my question is, at those loose timings doesn't that effect game's and such or does the speed make up for it? Like some 2x1gb RAM is rated 2-3-2-5 @ 200mhz. Do latencies even affect the bandwidth in sandra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashman
Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
speed makes up for it
0016 tref took a big hit. latency went from 41ns to 55ns on everest. super pi 1m from 29s to 33s.
Cashman, can you take a picture of your BIOS settings under Ram? That would be very helpful :D.
With Athlon 64's the CPU speed has a huge impact on gaming performance while timings and RAM speed only have a small impact. Latency does affect bandwidth, especially the command rate, but theoretical bandwidth doesn't mean much. In real world performance you'll be lucky to ever notice the difference between 200Mhz and 300Mhz RAM and 2-2-2-5 and 3-4-4-8.Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
If your running the RAM 1:1 200Mhz divider then try 1560 and 0780.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
Try, 166MHz 7.8us It's like 4676 in bios I think. Gets me 20mbps or so more bandwidth than 3120.
4672 :)
What timings should i tweak next for performance (besides the 3-3-3). Ive tried tref values of 3120, 3072, 1560, 0780, 4672 with no change in performance. 0016 tref was alot slower. Stability is great at the pictured settings. If this Memory was 100% stable at 280 i would drop multi to 10. 275 is max for stability. I havent done much tweaking at 275*10 (2750mhz), Do you think that could be faster than 255*11 (2806mhz)?
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3060/untitled1qf.jpg
x-2-2-y
as for 255x11 vs. 275x10....why don't you tell us? :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
:p: cos thats alot of work :p:
LOL, I know...I don't want to do it either...
Anyway, I think it will actually vary by app, which sucks. Can you get 276 or 277 from your Ballistix? Maybe that'll make it a little clearer.
I might be able to get 276 or 277. i went from 275 to 280 and didnt try anything in between. i'm 280 stable on memtest but not super pi 32m :( I'll play with it tonight and see.
New rule!
3. Super PI 32M stability screenshot is now a requirement for the database.
For those of you already on the database, just send me your super pi 32m screen within the next 10 days and I'll update it for you.
To make this useful, can everybody post their best timings (photos of bios screen, or A64 tweaker screens)
Take mine down then EnJoy...I don't have my sticks any more and weren't even 32M stable at 250 3-4-4-8, I could only run <4M and 3DMarks at those speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
i'll run my 257x10 or 10.5 (never used a .5 multi) the next day or so, finishing my 24 hour prime 250x11.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6743/2774rx.jpg
nice nugz
Quote:
Originally Posted by rise4310
Thanks.
wow nugzo you have the cream of the crop of ballistix
i envy your ram
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
a friend just ordered & recieved some ballistix tracer from newegg. He's getting same results.
They seem to fly on the AMD platform.
Can anyone post a pic of what the Samsung UCCC IC's look like?
time is poor but only 2570mhz, still seems low.
http://img9.echo.cx/img9/8612/257x10...t0710054qp.jpg
can you post your 11x257 time rise4310?? thanks
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I know what the latter OCZ ram is... where's the 480-500 stuff, mainly whats it called and where's a review?Quote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
well texuspete after some email with ocz reps it seems the ram i was talking about http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...b_dual_channel
reviews at the bottom of the page. ocz performance series 3200 3-3-3-7 2x1gb uses different chips then the reviews have but thats understandable as the reviews are over a year old now lol. plus that ram cost 600 dollars back then now its 200. the best bet texuspete i think is to hold off a few weeks untill ocz introduces thier new ddr4000 2.5-3-3-8 ram that stuff should rock and is exactly the speed im looking for!!!!!
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sorry, i left them on page 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by brandinb
http://img253.echo.cx/my.php?image=a640708054vl.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by rise4310
hey Rise, still no test at cas 3? :)
Database edited and updated. I think overall it's much more helpful now.
Need superpi 32m screens from as many people as possible. Thanks.
God willing tomorrow. been a bit crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by giorgioprimo
I can get 265MHz to boot into windows and run SPi and other benchmarks but not prime stable. I can play all my games with everythign on High for hours on end and it won't crash, but it just won't pass prime for more than 15 minutes. Is passing prime a must to validate stability? Does that count?
The db only asks for Super Pi 32m stability.
I'll get some screenshots for you guys tomorrow when I get home from work then.
Check my post on page four and you'll see I included a 32M SuperPi run. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
I'm just curious but how many of you can make it through a Prime95 blend test for several hours or even 10 passes of Memtest test #8 at the speeds your posting? I can hit some pretty fun speeds on my Crucial Value too if i only run SuperPI :p.
I can hit your mom when I'm really high, and that's fun too. :p:
Db updated. ;)
I'm going to probably have to get rid of this Week 15 Venice if i plan on finding my max clock on these Crucial Value. Its been nothing but trouble since i got it. It hated the OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev2 TCCD i had before. I'm probably going to get an X2 4400+ if the prices ever start to come down.
Week 15s are the best!! You musta gotten a really bad one!
well, this is only 255 but i had was hoping to get prime stable at this-Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?i...t255x114yk.jpg
alas, my chip will need some more volts if i do.
heres a short prime at 257 but memtest ran over 4 hours while i slept.
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?i...70708059kj.jpg
i know its stable, just didn't want to waste time on a setting i wouldn't use.
oddly, i find test 5 and 7 are the most taxing on this ram. those are the only tests i've seen errors on throughout testing.
Week 15's are noted to overclock well but also to have a weak memory controller. My week 15 3200+ runs 2800Mhz completely stable but i've yet to have good luck with RAM and i've tested UTT-BH, TCCD, and now Micron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
sounds about right with my week 15 newark.. it's very picky with ram :(Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
enjoy, i'll get a 32m shot for you, i just want to do some testing with the clawhammer on the dfi first, see if it makes any difference in max stable clock ;)
My Ballistix Tracer
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/5436/27032m0oy.jpg
Quite nice!! It definitely does seem that the Tracer is better from the samples we've had.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Sounds good dude.
Database updated. Need more super_pi 32m screens please. Cashman, etc...send me your 32m's! :D
Well, just ordered 2 1gb sticks of crucial value. I'll be sure and post my results. I got a GF7 today, and BF2 runs crappy at 1920*1200 and just high settings.
Rise, my 3700+ Sandy was having issues, I had to pull the IHS off, and redo the "goop", it had two VOIDS in it that lefta small spots on the CPU DRY!!!!
So the chip would do 250Mhz x10, but barely go past 2580Mhz....now redone with AS3, it does 2800Mhz on stock HSF just like my brothers....which came from the same wafer :rolleyes:
Are those rams you are using these... NewEgg Mushkin 1G
I ordered a pair, we'll see how they do.
Worst case these will end up on our iRAM boards next month.
Why did you put the IHS back on?
thanks for the info uwackme. i got these mushkies-Quote:
Originally Posted by uwackme
http://www.tankguys.com/pc3200-high-...ce-p-1235.html
i think i saw tiger had them for 219 recently.
what week is your 3700+? thats very interesting and also somewhat characteristic of my chip. my ceiling is a bit higher though, its 2750 or bust for me but i haven't hit it with more than 1.55v as my temps get too high and prime fails. if you think doing that would get me more i might need to PM you for instructions on that unless you have a handy link :)
btw, my initial steps into cl3 with this ram is more like what the reviewers said- it really doesn't want to get more than another 10-15mhz above where i'm at. but i haven't really played with it alot. i get a tooth pulled tomorrow afternoon so i'll have some time in my misery to test a bit more.
My curiosity is peaked.
Do u need it with a zalman?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I to would like a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by rise4310
I dont know of a link, I did it the old fashioned way, used a single-sided razorblade. I taped a diagonal corner on it so the MAX depth was 1/8" under the IHS. It is only a thin bead of black RTV (silicon glue) that AMD uses to glue the IHS on. You can replace the IHS with it after.
I kept the IHS for safety sakes, I dont trust the accuracy of the stock HSF and dont want to risk hurting the core. People have tested and found very little difference between IHS and not.
My IDLE is low 30C's and max load is low 50C's, so Im happy...250Mhzx11 with stock retail HSF.
Im hoping the $179 2G Mushkins are also the -5B-D chips, the imge looks like it is, but worst case they'll end up on iRAM boards.
amazing tests on those....133MB/S on all tests, and 0.1ms access time :cool: Perfect place for pagefile.
uwhackme i did a super close zoom shot of neweggs pic and compared it to crucial/micron chips and i can guarantee you the "picture" newegg shows deffinetly has micron chips on it. now what they sell i dunno
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Originally Posted by EnJoY
LOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
I can run Prime 95 blend overnight. will give u a screenshot in the morning. I dont have a digital camera so i cant show u memest 8.
277 3-3-3-8
Will a Venice yield higher memory speed than an old NewCastle?
Well given their improved memory controller, they very well could. However if you have bad ram, you have bad ram...ain't nothin goin fix that.
hey enjoy. remember me? i love the X850XT!!!
i thought i might post this pic for you to drool over enjoy. :P well, you kinda already have one hehe.
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I just wanted to say hello to you all, I have been reading posts for the last couple weeks since BF2 came out and I just knew since I like to fly and after noticing some lag it was time to upgrade.
I currently have a P4 3.4EE 1GB Corsair BH5 6800Ultra
Decided after forever being an Intel person it was time to give AMD a try, got them to sample me an FX-55 (just got it and it was a retail clawhammer so ebayed it) now ordered a San Diego FX-55
Have had the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB module set for about 2 weeks now in my P4 board, I am running 210FSB and 2-2-2-5 with PAT enabled timings with absolutely zero issues with all testing memtest and in game testing.
I have on hand now the DFI NF4 Ultra-D (decided SLI was a waste at 20-50% increase in performance for 100% increase in video $$$) The new CPU should be here Tue or Wed next week :banana:
I am still waiting on Dell's backordered BFG 7800 GTX :mad: but am hoping to see it soon. Also on my upgrade list got the 2405FPW for myself and my wife, she is getting my P4 3.4EE and 6800 ultra her P4 3.5 (overclocked) and FX 5900 is already sold so I am hoping the video card comes in quickly.
I am very anxious to report my results with all of you on my 2x1GB Ballistix Tracers, just so you know I tried to get inside info since my company is a Crucial reseller and I ordered direct at a discount they would not give any information on the ICs of the modules like it was top secret or something :D
I am hoping the FX-55 will be worthy of its reviews I've read and push the 7800 GTX to its limit @ 1920x1200 2-4X FSAA 8XAF
Can anyone tell me how important FSB is on the new boards? I remember the older benches of 3dmarks for Intel boards FSB ruled the benchmarks and FPS was increase significantly. Is it still that way? Should FSB be a bit more important than total CPU Ghz?
Sorry about the post in the above spot, I'm a pretty big noob to forums
I just wanted to say hello to you all, I have been reading posts for the last couple weeks since BF2 came out and I just knew since I like to fly and after noticing some lag it was time to upgrade.
I currently have a P4 3.4EE 1GB Corsair BH5 6800Ultra
Decided after forever being an Intel person it was time to give AMD a try, got them to sample me an FX-55 (just got it and it was a retail clawhammer so ebayed it) now ordered a San Diego FX-55
Have had the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB module set for about 2 weeks now in my P4 board, I am running 210FSB and 2-2-2-5 with PAT enabled timings with absolutely zero issues with all testing memtest and in game testing.
I have on hand now the DFI NF4 Ultra-D (decided SLI was a waste at 20-50% increase in performance for 100% increase in video $$$) The new CPU should be here Tue or Wed next week
I am still waiting on Dell's backordered BFG 7800 GTX but am hoping to see it soon. Also on my upgrade list got the 2405FPW for myself and my wife, she is getting my P4 3.4EE and 6800 ultra her P4 3.5 (overclocked) and FX 5900 is already sold so I am hoping the video card comes in quickly.
I am very anxious to report my results with all of you on my 2x1GB Ballistix Tracers, just so you know I tried to get inside info since my company is a Crucial reseller and I ordered direct at a discount they would not give any information on the ICs of the modules like it was top secret or something
I am hoping the FX-55 will be worthy of its reviews I've read and push the 7800 GTX to its limit @ 1920x1200 2-4X FSAA 8XAF
Can anyone tell me how important FSB is on the new boards? I remember the older benches of 3dmarks for Intel boards FSB ruled the benchmarks and FPS was increase significantly. Is it still that way? Should FSB be a bit more important than total CPU Ghz?
Welcome to XtremeSystems Pentium777 ! :toast:
When you get it up and running post back with your results !
welcome pentium 777!!!
i am also looking for 2 pair of 1 gb ddr modules for my amd x2 system on prash change. It has to be good oc memory but i only seen crucial on this forum. Looks like crucial is the only 1 gb memory that clocks well ?
nice treath btw :)
srry english me bad Dutchmen :)
i had an eye on those 2gb kit from corsair the 1GB x 2 (2GB) PC3200 DDR, CL2 (Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2) , that cost only 260 euro.
2-3-3-6 timings, someone have this memory ?