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10-21-2005, 04:21 AM
sang

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Thats a preaty good score......... ;) :D

This weekend I'll put it under a prommie and I'll tell you how it does.......This VGA has done under a prommie Core= 785MHz and Rams=702MHz.......I think under a cascade(prepairing now) will do about Core=850MHz+ and Rams= 710MHz+....... ;)

EDIT: LL NEEDS high overclocked VGA's.........LH doesn't...... ;)

Yes,it was a typo for LH.this is the main test which im interested for. thanks.
Im waiting your results.Your XTPE looks like a killer :toast:
10-21-2005, 05:10 AM
bUDE

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8908/28s8kh.th.jpg

Freq is here http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=43995

Cooler is TT Sonic Tower with Papst 120mm@700 rpm
10-21-2005, 11:04 PM
RoyaL

hipro5 impressive numbers,i'm deeply impressed! :)
you beat memesama!

ciao kiko! ;)

i also agree with Hipro5 that maxmem is no good for dothans and i don't know why but i always get better results with XP SP2 that Server 2k3..

somebody made some tests with SP1 for 2k3?
10-21-2005, 11:19 PM
RoyaL

Quote:

I think your chances to run >240 FSB 2x512 UTT in a C800 are close to zero,but we never know until you try it.

http://img187.echo.cx/img187/7383/utt2509pw.jpg
http://img236.echo.cx/img236/5786/snap2606dg.jpg

Mtec UTT on 875..
it's true that with dothan is more difficult that P4 but u can never know.

Hipro got insane rams , best bh6 I ever seen in my hole dirty life :D
btw what cooling do you use for the memory? voltage?
10-22-2005, 02:09 AM
hipro5

I use these heatsinks...........

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Memory/Modd_39.jpg

........and above them, there is the ABIT AN8 Fatality's Ram cooler with 2 x 4 x 4 DELTA fans @ 10000 rpms to cool them......Vdimm for maxing out on 875 chipset, is 3.63Volts...... :D

WinXP SP2 here too...... ;)
10-22-2005, 07:34 AM
mrlobber

Here is my best on air so far:
Asus P4GD1 unmodded / Dothan 740 @ 1.52 Vcore /2x512 Mushkin Redline & DDR Booster @ 3.4 Vdimm

http://mrlobber.svnets.lv/Oc/221005/...6x11mhz_sm.jpg

CPU limited because these Redlines can complete Superpi at least at 267 mhz.
10-22-2005, 09:32 AM
sang

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hehe,a same 2820MHz on P4GD1,730 dottie with cold air.
10-22-2005, 09:38 AM
sang

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyaL

http://img187.echo.cx/img187/7383/utt2509pw.jpg
http://img236.echo.cx/img236/5786/snap2606dg.jpg

Mtec UTT on 875..
it's true that with dothan is more difficult that P4 but u can never know.

Hipro got insane rams , best bh6 I ever seen in my hole dirty life :D
btw what cooling do you use for the memory? voltage?

Royal - I think these are the first 512MB sticks UTT based memory who run over 240 in a C800.Impresive! Tried myself few 512 Winbond UTT(Twinmos) in a P4P800-SE and never make it over 225.But in GD1 they were flying at 250.

I really have to dig out a C800 to play ..
10-22-2005, 10:09 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by sangboy

hehe,a same 2820MHz on P4GD1,730 dottie with cold air.

No, 6 Mhz extra actually :p:

Would 25 fsb be worth the 0.5 sec difference or have you done some special tweaks?
10-22-2005, 10:37 AM
sang

dunno,never tried with 11 multi.
just known normal pi tweaks
10-22-2005, 10:53 AM
sky

my little 760 with the stock asus ct-479 heatsink & fan

cpu: pentium m 760 @ 311x9.0 @ 1.60v (bios) not modded yet
ram: 2x512 mb khx 3200 (bh5) @ 5:4 249-5-2-2-2, vdimm @ ~3.25v (real)
mob: asus p4p800-se with bios .003 and asus ct-479
gpu: either my pov 6800gt or my sapphire 9800xt (rip now) :(
psu: ocz 520w powerstream

pat: partially enabled (boot at 240x10.0)

http://www.abi00.de/silversurfr2/pic...%201,8vagp.png
10-23-2005, 02:51 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by sangboy

Hipro5

I think your chances to run >240 FSB 2x512 UTT in a C800 are close to zero,but we never know until you try it. :)
I really would like to see a 3D2001 run in a C800 with your CPU over 3100MHz (it will be perfect @3200MHz) and with your x800 XTPE.Clocks for Radeon doesnt matter so much, i just want to compare your CH,LL with my run on P4GD1.
Here is mine:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8756918

Thanks.

I puted my DOTHAN 770 on my hi-pro-mie(R410 gas) and benched @ 3205MHz......Rams at 267MHz 1:1.....NOT my good mobo though......This mobo is my other P4C800E-Deluxe...... ;)
ALSO VGA @ 634 Core and 641 Rams........VGA on AIR..... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._41080_png.png

C O M P A R E URL.......
10-23-2005, 03:14 AM
RoyaL

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

I use these heatsinks...........

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Memory/Modd_39.jpg

........and above them, there is the ABIT AN8 Fatality's Ram cooler with 2 x 4 x 4 DELTA fans @ 10000 rpms to cool them......Vdimm for maxing out on 875 chipset, is 3.63Volts...... :D

WinXP SP2 here too...... ;)

great! i bet it's homemade by you! Great modder for real ;)
what's the temp of ram when u bench'em?

Quote:

Royal - I think these are the first 512MB sticks UTT based memory who run over 240 in a C800.Impresive! Tried myself few 512 Winbond UTT(Twinmos) in a P4P800-SE and never make it over 225.But in GD1 they were flying at 250.

like i said,you can never know. anyway with dothan it's quite impossible to get that mhz with UTTs..P4 it's a different story,even the bios don't helps too much
10-23-2005, 03:18 AM
hipro5

Rams where at room temperature cooled by forced air(DELTA Fan 12 x 12 cm 200cfm).... :D
10-23-2005, 08:48 AM
Elisha

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...sudason/25.jpg

730 cooled by Zalman 7700CU.

Hipro do you have pics of how you mounted the prommie on the ct-479?
10-23-2005, 09:54 AM
sang

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

I puted my DOTHAN 770 on my hi-pro-mie(R410 gas) and benched @ 3205MHz......Rams at 267MHz 1:1.....NOT my good mobo though......This mobo is my other P4C800E-Deluxe...... ;)
ALSO VGA @ 634 Core and 641 Rams........VGA on AIR..... ;)

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D..._41080_png.png

C O M P A R E URL.......

Thanks,Hipro5. Excellent work. :toast:

Very usefull compare between P4GD1 and P4C800.
Looks pretty close.I cant belive the only difference in LH its 1 FPS.
From what have I notice so far benching with AGP mobos - raising AGP frequency helps for DL,DH,N in 3D2001. BUt it also lower your score on the non-GPU dependant tests. I presume you were running full PAT,right?
In this case you cant lower AGP freq. between tests.

I used MPS Uniprocessor tweak for my 2k1 run. Have you? Or the ACPI tweak?
10-23-2005, 02:01 PM
hipro5

NO full PAT involved........Boot @ 240MHz and into windows raised the fsb up to 267MHz......On this mobo, when I put in 865 Tweaker the 111(11) config for full PAT, it lets me bench on air @ 253MHz and on phase change @ 258MHz max........My other mobo lets me play full PAT on air @ 262MHz and on phase change(haven't tested it yet) should be around 267MHz+(I hope :) )......ACPI Multiprossesor run....

267MHz and 101(10) on tweaker = 245 - 248MHz with 111(11)......... ;)

Tommorow I'll test at the same frequency and full PAT to see how it does compare to this run.... ;)
10-23-2005, 02:04 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elisha

Hipro do you have pics of how you mounted the prommie on the ct-479?

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...seal_1_jpg.jpg

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...seal_4_jpg.jpg
10-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Elisha

are those custom brackets?
and did you solder the power pins and the fsb jumpers?
10-23-2005, 02:33 PM
hipro5

Yes........
......and yes....... :D
10-23-2005, 02:46 PM
freecableguy

I have a FX57 that does 3.2Ghz on air with a sub 25 sec 1m SPI. :D
10-23-2005, 02:50 PM
Gautam

First class work again Hipro. :woot:

Any chances of a 780 in your future? ;)

MPS Uni should score higher than ACPI multi on a Dothan, but not by a significant amount.
10-23-2005, 02:51 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

First class work again Hipro. :woot:

Any chances of a 780 in your future? ;)

Soon........very soon...... ;) :D
10-23-2005, 03:42 PM
sang

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...seal_1_jpg.jpg

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/D...seal_4_jpg.jpg

very ingenious way to pass the anoying ct-479 :).I would really love to see some close-ups with your mounting prommy.In the "http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/DOTHAN" folder i cant find one.

Kudos for your work,my friend !
11-04-2005, 03:29 AM
Gorod

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9...02253371t2.gif
11-04-2005, 01:11 PM
k|ngp|n

Playing with my new p4c on air with the crappy aluminum ct-479 hsf. Testing out some settings with this 780 retail chip:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../117601861.jpg
Maybe with larger copper heatpipe cooler and good fans, 3+ghz and low 23 sec 1m on air.
11-04-2005, 01:52 PM
stevke

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/5485/2986ng.th.jpg

My 3200+ 0517 BPEW cooled by Freezer64
on my old MSI K8N Neo2
GeIL UltraX@279@2.5-3-3-6

I hope with my Mushkin Lvl II I can reach better times ;)
11-04-2005, 02:17 PM
s7e9h3n

I was right - my BH5's had more in them - and I'm pretty sure this isn't the max yet:
http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/6585/11x2741m0nc.jpg
11-05-2005, 06:48 AM
HousERaT

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not too bad for these new chips..... not the best in the land but pretty good.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=39525
11-05-2005, 07:01 AM
KeZzZu

here is mine 26sek :) its opteron 144 and CABGE (w00t) and with zalman 7700+120x120 ystech and ambient temp +4 celsius

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9...1msuper0ql.png
11-07-2005, 10:18 AM
RoyaL

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Playing with my new p4c on air with the crappy aluminum ct-479 hsf. Testing out some settings with this 780 retail chip:
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../117601861.jpg
Maybe with larger copper heatpipe cooler and good fans, 3+ghz and low 23 sec 1m on air.

yes u could easily hit it :)
nice chip u got there
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/38/23822do.jpg
11-07-2005, 01:55 PM
thegooner

My best SuperPi 1M time so far:-

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/9...erpi1ma5jq.jpg

Opteron 146 in an SN25P Shuttle, stock cooled.
11-10-2005, 07:37 PM
[XC] moddolicous

Here is another best one by me. Soon I'll be able to break 43's. BTW, this tweak helped me a ton (the one in a red box):
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5003/tweaks9it.png
11-13-2005, 04:34 AM
skönnbrink

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/u...n_under_25.JPG

Zalman 7700alcu cooler
11-14-2005, 11:35 AM
Jonas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

http://blue.ap.teacup.com/memesama39...1123077151.jpg

Memesama :slobber:

I take it the P4GD1 doesn't have an equivalent of DRAM parameter 11...get yourself a P4C800-E Dlx and then you'll really see Pi scream. ;)

is this on air?? omg, amazing score :slobber:
11-19-2005, 07:41 AM
M.Beier

25.625 stock cooling, outside in the cold weather - on a 3700+, check Superpi 1M on AIR thread for picture :)
11-20-2005, 01:58 AM
Bogi

here my 1m time on air
11-20-2005, 02:26 AM
Nitrogenium

My new record http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=record46us.jpg
Zalman 7000B-Cu Led.
11-20-2005, 09:00 PM
uOpt

My CABYE 0540FPAW, Big Typhoon, Geil One BH
http://www.cons.org/cracauer/oc-scre...uperpi1m_8.png
11-27-2005, 01:44 PM
k|ngp|n

Updated air 1m
Some nice cold air and hyper-6 and 2 80mm fan
780m
p4c800-e
2x256 buffalo tech bh-5
1.8vagp
3.2 vdimm
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/.../120164972.jpg
11-27-2005, 01:55 PM
Jonas

and what about a table? to facilitate the reading and to do a kind of competition to archive the first place ;)
12-04-2005, 12:01 AM
sang

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Dothan 780/P4c800 @ -9C AMbient
SwiftechMCX462 + Tornado 92mm
my best pi result so far..
12-04-2005, 11:05 AM
Gautam

Incredible!! 2x256 or 2x512? Whats with latency paramter 111? Is it faster than 11?
12-04-2005, 07:28 PM
sang

2x256 twinmos new bh-5

111=11;just different versions for I875 Tweaker.
12-13-2005, 09:36 AM
Dani

DFI nF4 SLI-D
Opt 146
TT BigTyphoon and cold AIR

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nF..._1.64V_AIR.gif
12-15-2005, 07:49 PM
Gorod

Open window and Idle temps around +32-34 C .

FX57 @ 3250MHz (CABNE 0530APMW) , 250x13.0 , 1.55V , HTT x4
Cooler Master Hyper6
DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-DR , BIOS 623-3
2x512Mb , 250MHz @ 2.0-2-2-5-1T , OCZ VX4000 , 3.3V
OCZ PowerStream 600W , OCZ-600ADJ SLI

Super PI 1.4Mod , 1M : 25.73

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8072/257348or.gif
12-18-2005, 02:38 PM
-ZEUS-

Intel 630 @ 4762MHz , 317*15 , 1.650v
Zalman 9500 + 120мм
Asus P5WD2 Premium , BIOS 0422 , MCH - 1.9v
Corsair TWIN2X1024-8000UL @ 529Mhz , 5-4-4-8 , 2.55v (Hyper Path 3 - Enabled)
480W Thermaltake (W0026)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2663/pi0cd.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2908/34fi.th.jpg
12-18-2005, 03:13 PM
leejsmith

Dothan 780 @ 3099 with zalman 7000 alu cooler 7C ambient

my best time without a screen shot is 24.2 but it's not stable with this speed it was 1m stable. Ram was tccd @ 258 2.5-3-3-5

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/m7803099 pi.jpg
01-04-2006, 01:38 PM
RoyaL

Quote:

Originally Posted by leejsmith

Dothan 780 @ 3099 with zalman 7000 alu cooler 7C ambient

my best time without a screen shot is 24.2 but it's not stable with this speed it was 1m stable. Ram was tccd @ 258 2.5-3-3-5

http://www.ljsnet.co.uk/benchin/m7803099 pi.jpg

u`re high :)

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4148/244841td.jpg
01-11-2006, 04:07 PM
Achill3uS

e6 venice on roomtemp 20C with TT Sonictower, ihs off (the ram settings was not agressive too, Trc 15 :FF )

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060112/ai...toltes.hu_.jpg
01-20-2006, 09:31 AM
EZClock

Intel 641 Cedar Mill (Aircooled w/ XP120 / 141CFM Delta)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ockr/newpi.jpg
01-22-2006, 12:14 AM
RyderOCZ

DFI SLI-D
Opteron 146 (Air Cooled)
OCZ 3500GX (UTT-BH) @ 3.6V

Click picture for full-sized version :)

http://www.bleedinedge.com/crew/ryde...erPi1mlink.jpg
01-24-2006, 04:25 AM
Kasparz

http://bildez.lv/bildes/kasparz/pure...1138061414.jpg
3700+/Redline/Big Typhoon.
BT dunt work well with cold air, if ambient tems is lower than 5C, the BT's heatpipes dunt work, and temp goes up to 50C idle.
01-31-2006, 01:31 PM
BvK

won't be the best I think, but here is my San Diego 3700+ 0547GPMW 0001. Tested with air (TT BT) and open window.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/BvK/467568658.jpg
01-31-2006, 02:14 PM
krampak

Opty 148 0536GPMW CM Hyper 6 (cold air) plus vantec tornado.

25,31"

http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/3...13in5gt.th.jpg

Maybe I improve it on a few days.
02-05-2006, 05:03 AM
Moso

What is the WR for AMD SuperPi 1m on air ???
02-08-2006, 10:14 AM
Jackarturo

My score in SuperPi 1M whit AMD 3700+ Sandi - 1 GB G.Skill @ 265Mhz 2.5-3-3-6 1T And XP-90c

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8...perpi1m291.jpg

Bye!
02-09-2006, 05:28 PM
Moso

DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
Opteron 146 @ 3344MHz
Hyper 6 and cold AIR (-6c),
SuperPI 1m = 24.547 sec

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4621/245477ze.th.jpg

Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=69840
02-10-2006, 04:59 AM
aussie7

My Winchester 3000+ @ 2601Mhz on Air :eek:

http://www.ocau.bluelilly.com/2601mh...SuperPI-1M.jpg
02-10-2006, 08:46 AM
Pieros

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Opteron 165
02-14-2006, 12:43 AM
Ator

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Got my new Opty 146 today. :D

I'll get some better times soon...I just got it installed and overclocked like less than 12 hours ago.

26.921 @ 3144Mhz
02-14-2006, 09:15 PM
AKURA

Aircooled Untweaked RuN:D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1139942351
02-18-2006, 10:57 PM
Henry

Opty 148, 2x512 BH-5, SLI-D, Zalman 7700Cu, room temp 22c :

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/396...hzpi1mb7go.jpg
02-18-2006, 11:16 PM
Raybo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani

DFI nF4 SLI-D
Opt 146
TT BigTyphoon and cold AIR

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/DFI%20nF..._1.64V_AIR.gif

Come clean Dani...............How cold is the air in Helsinki??

Nice clocks by the way, does CPUZ shows your volts right?

3300 on air is outstanding!!
02-20-2006, 12:27 AM
Ator

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Finally broke 3200Mhz!

I'm so close to getting into the 25's I can taste it...
02-20-2006, 12:26 PM
Dani

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raybo

Come clean Dani...............How cold is the air in Helsinki??

Nice clocks by the way, does CPUZ shows your volts right?

3300 on air is outstanding!!

Ouh sorry, what I remember it was around -5'C :)
Cpu-Z shows volt right on etc. DFI nF4 mobo
But THX anyway:toast:
02-23-2006, 07:18 PM
Gorod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani

Ouh sorry, what I remember it was around -5'C :)
Cpu-Z shows volt right on etc. DFI nF4 mobo
But THX anyway:toast:

Thats some crazy Opteron u got Dani :eek: :clap:
Congrats on a nice chip and great results :toast:
It's almost like my FX57 , ambient temp was a litle higher (-1 C) :) :

FX57 @ 3300MHz , 1.55V , 254x13.0 , HTT x4
Cooler Master Hyper 6
DFI LP UT nF4 SLI-DR , 623-3
2x512Mb , 254MHz @ 2.0-2-2-5-1T , 3.5V (Mushkin Redlines XP 3500)
Win XP Pro SP2 untweaked 24/7 for that run

Super PI 1M : 24.953

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8608/249536qq.th.gif

CPU was Idle at +20-22 C , didn't check Load temp , just a quick run :)

ROFL , we even got EXACTLY same time Dani - 24.953 , thats funny :D
02-24-2006, 06:30 AM
Dani

Ouh, same time :toast:

..my FX-57 can do in 20ÂºC room temp SP32M 3200MHz with TT BigTyphoon and almost 3.8GHz with DI:D
03-02-2006, 02:33 AM
beginner1710

not the greatest but it works :D

A64 3200+ Winchester 10x 260MHz 1,5V VCore / TwinMos Twister Pro 2x512MB 2.5-3-3-6 1T 260MHz / A8N SLI Premium / Thermalright XP120

http://www.zwiebelweb.de/forum/SuperPI_1m.jpg
03-02-2006, 07:31 PM
coop

@ beginner1710, nice job and welcome to the forum.
03-02-2006, 09:43 PM
beginner1710

Thanks. In the next few days I will get my San Diego :D
Awaiting sleepless nights :D
03-09-2006, 03:15 PM
^don.k's^

Hi, here my acual best result with my 631, not bad tho :p:

http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/7...6air3qb.th.jpg

Regards! :toast:
03-09-2006, 07:28 PM
Siki3d

http://home.comcast.net/~siki3d/superpi.JPG

stock cooler baby!
super PI craps out for some reason when I set latency parameters 10 and 11
03-13-2006, 03:00 AM
beginner1710

New result with my new San Diego 3700+ 0510FPMW
...it will go on.

http://www.zwiebelweb.de/testing/super_3700.jpg
03-20-2006, 12:18 AM
longsiew

Heres mine

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/9...5980sec0zh.jpg
03-20-2006, 04:43 AM
kakaroto

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4...pi1m2ir.th.png

Not bad for air I guess for Cedarmill. :)
03-21-2006, 11:14 PM
Hystrix^

beginner, give it some more voltage, i'm sure it will go higher.
03-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Spyrus

San Diego 3700+ on air

http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14zl.jpg

26.266s
03-24-2006, 10:18 AM
C_B

a cheap M725 ...and a really good M750
both with air cooling ...

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...4281M725_2.jpg

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...NAG-0015_1.jpg
03-24-2006, 10:21 AM
Five-Seven

best pi1m run was done on dothan

http://www.edwebservice.de/uploads/866518d34e.jpg

I know, time could be better. But not with the crappy P4GPL-X i915 board.
with an i865 series board, i could have something like 25s.

my best A64 run was done with a 3700 Sandy.

http://www.edwebservice.de/uploads/024790a208.jpg

both with Thermaltake Sonic Tower and two 120mm silent fans.
03-27-2006, 12:36 AM
beginner1710

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hystrix^

beginner, give it some more voltage, i'm sure it will go higher.

No higher. It needs up to 1,568V for 2,8GHz.

http://www.zwiebelweb.de/testing/Sup...260_29.859.jpg
04-01-2006, 10:50 AM
beginner1710

Another nice result with a new SD 3700+.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/157...x2708lk.th.jpg
04-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Spyrus

Well my air is good i think...

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=374065
04-09-2006, 11:12 AM
EZClock

Intel 641 Cedar Mill on XP120 w/ EFB1212SHE (141CFM)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../spi1mbnew.jpg

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