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OMG this is amazing stuff, it's like sh*tting up a waterfall and making it all the way to the top.
OMG 3Ghz by air!! Awesome chip you got there :slobber: :slobber: Congrats to the Japanese Team ! Hope you will get an fx57 soon to play with :D (a very rare fx57 with no cold bug of course!)
congratulate for fantastic score ;)
Awesome clocks. Thats just incredible.
:worship:
The damage that would do with 3D...
I would also like to see a max screen shot from that monster.
Thanks :toast:
That clock and a X850XT PE on LN2 would be nice to see.
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Originally Posted by charlie
Hummmmmm Kool-Aid ***scratches head***
3DMark 2001 X800 XL <----Dothan
3DMark 2003 X800 XL <---- Kool-Aid listed
3DMark 2005 X800 XL <---- Kool-Aid listed
3DMark 2001 37,328 <---- Kool-Aid listed
3DMark 2003 SLI 24,156 <---- Kool-Aid listed
3DMark 2005 SLI 11,393 <---- Kool-Aid listed
Impressive Congrats by OC Shark Team Italy
nice clock, but charlie, not what i'd call stable(in so far as, keeping it supplied with ln2 24/7 would be more than a little bit of hassle :p ).
dothan is faster than ath 64 clock for clock, and when people say "yeah but its crap at encoding" , no its not. its behind but not by far and barely by noticeable amounts. the only real differences you can see these days in benchmarks between chips is, IMHO really between ath 64/p4 in gaming, the ath 64's almost always jump a decent margin ahead due to mem controller and low latency. most other area's are 10 seconds faster here or there and thrown outta proportion.
problem is, while these dothans do high speeds , even on air, its not anything that intel will release to do stock on desktop. when we get the p-m based desktop chip after we see the next dual core from intel, it will very very very likely be a smaller IPC cpu. it will almost certainly have at least a marginally extended pipeline to increase clocks for higher overall clocks when they finally get released. intel simply don't want to go from probably 4Ghz dual core 0.65nm cpus over to 2.5Ghz dualcore yonahs, it won't go over with joe average. but higher speeds might make up for this. depends if amd need to add to the pipeline in a after a couple more cpu's come out, to increase clocks or if they can keep IPC with higher clocks.
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by drunkenmaster
you're right. Intel WON'T do the right thing.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
I never said I don't like AMD, too....
In fact, I can't wait to get a 4400+ for my 24/7 rig.
I REALLY like the combo of DFI/A64/MUSHKIN REDLINE/r520/G70....
I likw my Kool-Aid in GRAPE!
C
well, after updating myself on this post I can say 2 things...
the Msec Pi shot, matchs what its suppose to match, and clockgen is not an easy thing to fool, cause it doesn't read anything windows, cause it reads the bios only.
however, crystal CPUID cannot be considerd cheatfree, as that program uses no cheat detection at all, like CPUZ does (1.26 or higher)
but overall, I am alot more inclined to think this is indeed real, now ;)
I like mine in Cherry flavor :)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Congrats, that's amazing :D :toast: 4ghz on a Dothan..that is insane, congrats again.
jjcom
Taking the world record with QUITE a margin to the rest at an FSB of 236MHz is just insane! If he can get that rig up and running at, say, FSB270 1:1 tight, i simply cannot see how it can get any faster :)
He's quickly becoming a star, pity we don't get to "meet" him :)
I'm sure the companys would love to. especially asus, as they have already shown their support for dothans with their socket adaptor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disposibleteen
Its the lack of chipsets is why noone has any.. and intel isnt going to be making those any time soon. :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
orange rocks :p:
fake or not fake, that is not mater at all, im really stop to believe in the korean/japan super pi, somting really weird in that pi.
so we wont some super pi mode 1.4 that we can be sure.
Can u run Dbench in our D2OL forum?? We are currently having a contest, and its divided up between 24/7 settings and as fast as u can go settings. Currently fastest I think is like low 120's. With this, the dothan should get like 70's, maybe 60's!
AMD FX range is faster for more people more of the time in more things, something the FX-57 will increase again.
However it's a lot more expensive, something the FX-57 will increase again unfortunately.
Dothan has a slightly better IPC than FX-55, but it has a lot better IP$.
To a lot of people FX-57 on single phase change, ie Asetek / nventive, at 3500MHz+ will be a faster/better proposition than a slightly unknown jump to Dothan. People with Asus 865/875 boards though will no longer have sand kicked in their faces though :)
I still prefer pifast to Superpi, pifast better reflects cpu/memory gaming performance than Super Pi IMO, it's just that Superpi has a bigger user base of people running it though AFAIK.
Regards
Andy
Thanks Andy.Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
As for Holicho-san, he is now retired and enjoying play golf almost everyday so I hear though he keeps his SuperPI 32M ranking at his HP.
Yes, he was one of our great Mentors & lead us all to the madness all right.
Fred
for a none benchmarking situation, the best chip to have no doubt is gonna be something low end in ath x2 range, as it will provide multitasking which neither the dothan(for now) or ath 64 can do.
though fx's overclock the best, thats generally because far more people that have them phase change cool them, generally on air overclocks the fx's haven't exactly blown the rest of the ath 64 range away. for your average air cooler, or watercooler the ath x2 is only gonna clock 200-300Mhz less and honestly you can not feel that in game plus the diff will be slightly less than normal as the game for instance would get 100% cpu time and no 5% here for downloads, 3% here and there for explorer and so on.
dothan dual core will be a time when they might be really able to compete with amd for real top end performance. but a single core dothan just doesn't offer anything the x2 can. i'm about 99% certain we'll see a 4000+ 1mb cache 2Ghz cpu within 2-3 months, and probably a 3800+ too, don't think they'll bother with 3600+ but they might. towards next year when everyone is advertising dual cores and more of the athlon 64 range moves to dual core(their roadmap is basically every chip they produce will be dual core within ,what, 2 years and most of them dual core within a year.) there will be lots of value dual cores.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
How cool is that! I would like to do the same some day :)
I will never forget his LN2 record in 3dmark2001 with R9700PRO (i think) which gave him 23xxx :clap:
Holicho-san was an insperation for a lot of as in past.......Give him my regards and my respect too...... :)
Thank you so much Pejsen and hipro5.
I will convey your best regards to Holicho-san.
Omedetou :toast: ..Congrats for a nice score. All your Team Japan hard work will be an inspiration to us to do more :) As always.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Thank you so much Dumo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Yup, I wish to catch up with your nice FX-55 ;)
Yes, the results, which you may click to see his summary table at his HP :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pejsen
I'm really thrilled to see Team Japan's presence here.... Thanks for giving updates PRTeamJapan... I'll definitely stop by and see you guys in Akiba!! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Yeah that's the one. What a nice lead :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
Thank you for the links :)
Wow, I guess were lucky more of the Team Japan guys don't like 3D ;)
This chip if benchable with a real card would destroy everything. Maybe they might get some interest being here, and even if they don't get that interested, it sure would be fun to see a few runs behind this powerhouse.
What do you think PRTeamJapan, can you coax them to give it a go?
Don't bring them on bad ideas, otherwise we'll left no chance to have #1 spots :DQuote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
;) ;)
Yet another amazing SPi results from Japan. Keep it going :)
yes it was one very difficult score to beat. He was one of the first to use GraniteBay board and fairly high FSB w/ DualChannel DDR.Quote:
I will never forget his LN2 record in 3dmark2001 with R9700PRO (i think) which gave him 23xxx
But back then P5T-533C+TurboPLL+RDRAM was the king thou :D
182 4X (plus a bit higher card speed) did the job.
Newsflash from the past:
23k battle
congratz JapanTeam ... Hope to see some 3DMark action soon. :yes:
Thank you so much macci for your compliment and reminder of the past dead heat...Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Kyosen, one of our core members and also a XS member, is actually all round OCer in our team.
But he has been under hybernation for a good personal reason since early this year though he was the one to show us how to modify CT-479.
Anyway, we are hoping he will be back shortly...
Cheers
Our members are looking forward to meeting with you soon :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Sorry, I am not in Japan atm.
Actually, I lived both places in your signature-- nice cities :)
Thanks G H Z.Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
I am not sure who would be :D
Thanks mache :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mache
Wish Kyosen is here with us...
Sorry, may be my wording mislead you... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
There are OCers certainly do bench 3D but it happened to be not the ones with Dothan atm.
As I said before, they are striving deep into what they want to achieve-- 18's SuperPI 1M :D
I wonder when we can get a 780 in the US.
Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Yeah that was way cool. I clearly remember since I was using the same mem as you. Samsung PC1200(PC1600) RD-ram which could quite easily get close to 200fsb only problem was the mobo's. My plan was originally to do a copy of your home-made PLL but i never got that far, yet it was enough for me to take the danish record for some time.
*edit* something tells that there was to good Abit RD-ram boards at the time.. just cant remember the name :confused:
Ahh good times LOL :cool:
By memesama
Dothan 780ES under aircooling @ room temp 25.7C without air-condition.
Set up details to be followed later.
BTW, thank you so much bigtoe :) for your presentation of new 023 beta bios to us. It surely fixed multi option according to memesama.
http://blue.ap.teacup.com/memesama39...1119558805.jpg
http://blue.ap.teacup.com/memesama39...1119560984.jpg
Stay tuned as we will see his SuperPI results under LN2 this weekend.....
1GHz+ on LN2Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
18s this week end :)
By kaz-n
Finally 18's :D
Cooling: LN2
CPU: M 780 ES
MB P4C800E DX (BIOS 10001.023)
Mem CORSAIR XMS3500v1.1 512MB×2 400MHz, Turbo, CL2.0-2-2-5-4-A-A-A（1：1, FSB200）
Vcore 1.775V, Vddr 3.50V, Vio 3.7V, Vagp 1.90V
http://premium1.uploadit.org/fredyam...s-by-kaz-n.jpg
Damn!!! Is that for real? :slobber: :slobber: Tell Kaz-n to stop :lol:
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
I wish I could tell him :(
We will see more to come :D
haha Nice work Kaz-N, you guys are amazing :) Keep up the good work.
PRTeamJapan - Give Kyosen my best :) He has found many a vMod when we were all stumped
Thanks CaTalyst.X :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CaTalyst.X
Yes, I will definately convey your best regards to kyosen who is the one to show us vMod thereupon begun this M madness :D
18s in English Super PI
By kaz-n, of course.
Clock：4090.3MHz (fsb240.6Mhz x17)
CPU: PentiumM 780 ES ( 7506B )
M/B: ASUS P4C800ED ( BIOS:10001.023) + CT-479
CPU Cooling: LN2 (ARC Pot Rev.10.1XE + V-TEC ARC Bed Rev.3.34)
Memory: CORSAIR XMS3500v1.1 512MB×2
VGA: Matrox Millennium PCI
HDD: Maxtor 6Y080P0 80G
Power Supply: OCZ PowerStream 520W
Vcore: 1.775v (テスタ読み)
Vddr: 3.50v, Vio: 3.7v, Vagp: 1.90v
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 400MHz, Turbo, CL2.0-2-2-5-4-A-A-A
備考: 1:1 200MHz起動
http://u-san.net/c-board/file/17-240pai.jpg
can't see the pic - but i trust ya enough to be amazed here PRTeamJapan ...
WOW !
Dothan showing some muscle and the ability for very high speeds.
Thanks for the update!
This is one amazing cpu . Gaming on 3G dothan should rule. What you think one will do on singe stage ?
Sweet LN action and congrats on 18 :toast:
For those who can't see the pics.
http://www.kaz-n.com/3g-gp.htm
When I bought that scrawny little DFI855gMe and 735/755 in January, I would have NEVER guessed that this CPU would not only "out-clock" an FX in pure mHz, but be FASTER in every clock cycle!
100% Pure AWE...
:woot: Team Japan!!!!
C
rediculous...
very very nice job but it's possible to bench at 14*272 to break 18.5s :)
Can he bench with cpumark99 or other?
pifast 10M, spi 8M, 32M for example
memesama too :)
CPU-Z is a little bit wrong there ;) 735 :P Congrats Kaz-n and Team Japan!
Kaz-n's the man! :D
OK.... next logical question, how many mHz will it take for 17s??
C
...that's incredible...... :cheer:
15x272.6 should be 17 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
japan is decreasing the ln² amount of the world :stick:
dothan => :slobber:
Thank you all for your compliment on and encouragement to kaz-n's great achievement. He really appreciates it...
For you, how can I refuse your requests :D :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
Kaz-n told us already he would be off this weekend, but would try other benches probably next week.
Yes, but it is a cheat-free that you guys want to see, if I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Yes, but it is quite difficult to achieve 17s accoding to kaz-n......Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Probably, we can guess when we see more results by memesama & TAM with their M 780ES hopefully in this weekend.
Hahaha, we have been depleting LN2 for long time now so we import almost everything besides LN2 but exporting mighty fine products..Made in Japan :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jort
Well, i think there will be plenty of N² for the japanese overclockers, as it makes up 78% of the atmosfere.. You just need to cool it down ;)
Message from Hlolicho-san:
It’s been a while since I am responding in the name of Holicho.
What a nice of you and thank you so much for remembering me.
I am quite healthy and am really into playing golf these days.
By the way, I have kept open my homepage because I may come back to OC life again by some chance....
I wish you all my best regards, a good health and a happy OC life.
Thanks for the update from Holicho
He will be remembered as a legend here at XS.
Thank you very much for your hearty comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I bet he is more than happy to hear from you- a legend at XS :)
nVIDIA should make a show like ATi did, just in Denmark this time, and with all the stars like OPP, Macci, FUGGER, Kingpin, Shamino, Sampsa, OPB, Charlie, (all the western ones i forgot) and Futto kun, memesama, Holicho, Kaz-n.. :)
Unbelievable results from all of team japan :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
If you dont mind me asking, are these guys using a vid-switching mod using a dipswitch to get the chips stable over 1.65v, as opposed to standard vcore mod + u-wire(vid4 to vss) on the p4c800?
Is there a link to any of kyosens work with the adapter/p4c? I would appreciate that very much if possible.
Something like in these pics?:
By memesama
His comment: could not reach 4G nor 18s-- will try more...
CPU：PentiumM780ES 7506B・・・
M/B：ASUS P4C800ED 53MG Bios10001.023/CT-479
RAM：KHX3500 256MB×2
CPU Cooler：Kuri Pro3 LN2
Vcore:1.715V(Actual)
Vddr：3.43V(Actual)
Vio:3.65V(Actual)
VGA:CANOPS PWR128
Power suplｌｙ：OCZ520W
OS：Windows Server 2003
200MHz 2-2-2-5-4-E-A-A
HDD：IBM DTLA 15G
http://blue.ap.teacup.com/memesama39...1119745086.jpg
http://blue.ap.teacup.com/memesama39...1119745117.jpg
Can't he bench with his Rams over 270MHz?.....I've noticed that when I bench with my Rams at almost 250MHz and then at over 270MHz(273MHz) and in the exact same frequency, I have a gain ALMOST 1sec in Super-Pi 1M..... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
I bet that if he can do 271MHz x 14 multi, he could get 18sec..... ;)
yes, there is a problem between dothans FSB533 and a great ram frequency??
I dont understand, kaz-n runs his rams at 235-240 and memesama too
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Thank you hipro5 for your reminder
Yes, that is what he thinks and is trying to get 18s without going over to 4G :)
No I don't think that there is a problem.......At least I dont have with the P4P800-SE mobo and with the 770 CPU.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
I can bench Pi-Fast up to 273MHz and Super-Pi up to 274MHz with a room temp at 28*C.......If I had my aircondition working(compressor is dead) , I think I could get another 1 to 2 MHz more out of these Rams......I also think that if I put it into phase change, I could get my Rams a bit higher than that......All of those with Cas 2-2-2-5-Enable-8T-7.8us and Performance to Turbo as for the BH-6 and BH-5 chips..... ;)
have u considered that maybe it should be difficult to be stable with that high fsb on that high speed?
Accoding to Vigor, he was able to push up to FSB275 during testing out his new Rev12 Pot/M750 and got 20s as before but picture is @ FSB260.8 hereQuote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
Apparently, some memory works very well but others ??-- a bit of peky as you have guessed...
Owing to Vigor's ARC Bed and ARC Pot, we, at Team Japan, can achieve--no questions about.
He is our treasuer :) as him being an LN2 expert and his very logical craftmanship-- that is the name of the game....
Vigor's LN2 pots are trully great performers too bad there aren't many details and pictures available (or that i've seen).
very cool stuff!
the dothan are comparible with the amd xp +2600's in their time.
unfortunately that they're a special socket type and the motherboards aren't that cheap but the performance :slobber: .
The ram problem isn't such a big problem I think.
Xyus
By TAM
Air Cooling:
Time: 23s (Original SuperPI 1M) , 23.735s (MOD1.4 1M)
Clock：3028.2MHz (fsb252.4Mhz x12)
CPU: Pentium M 780 ES
M/B: ASUS P4C800-E (34MG / BIOS:10001.023) + CT-479
CPU Cooling: COOLER MASTER Cyprum + 8cmFAN(0.24A,2800rpm)
Memory: A-DATA PC3200 (Winbond 2332D/234WD) 256MB x2
VGA: ATI rageXL (PCI)
HDD: IBM DTLA-307015
Power Supply: Aopen FPS530-60GN
Vcore: 1.58v (CPU-Z)
Vddr: 3.50v, Vio: 3.60v, Vagp: 1.95v
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 400MHz, Turbo, CL2.0-2-2-5-4-E-A-A (1:1 200MHz)
Room Temp 25℃
http://u-san.net/c-board/file/M780-3028_23s735.gif
LN2 Cooling
Time: 19.000s (Super PI / MOD1.4)
Clock：4087.2MHz (fsb240.4Mhz x17)
CPU: Pentium M 780 ES
M/B: ASUS P4C800-E (44MG / BIOS:10001.023) + CT-479
CPU Cooling: LN2 (Pro3 + V-TEC ARC Bed Rev.3.4)
Memory: Kingston KHX3500 CL2 256MB x2
VGA: ATI rageXL (PCI)
HDD: IBM DTLA-307015
Power Supply：OCZ PowerStream 520W
Vcore: 1.721v (Actual)
Vddr: 3.65v, Vio: 3.73v, Vagp: 1.98v
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 400MHz, Turbo, CL2.0-2-2-5-4-E-A-A (1:1 200MHz)
http://u-san.net/c-board/file/M780-4087_19s000.gif
240!!!!!!!!!!!
why???
They are also wondering the same and trying more tests with lower multi/higher FSB on these M780ES.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
okQuote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
he should test maxmem=64, maxmem=96 for spi 1M
it's better for me
and I found the maxmem for the 8M
3.4s better than no maxmem
at 2400 (8*300) ram at 240
no maxmem = 6'13"950
maxmem=XXX = 6'10"875
Thanks for your valuable inf :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
He wants to get 18s by other settings than kaz-n....
We shall see ;)
now 6'10"4Quote:
Originally Posted by PRTeamJapan
3.5-3.6s better
The one on air looks very impressive :)
I wish I could acchieve 3G with my P-M770 on air.
@PRTeamJapan: What was the ambient temp for the air-cooled rig?
Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vegeta
Room temp was 25deg C in case it was garbled in the original post.
5'30 at 2.7GHZ with a venice :)
By TAM
LN2 Cooling
Time: 18s (Original SuperPI 1M) , 18.750s (MOD1.4 1M)
Clock：4148.2MHz (fsb244.0Mhz x17)
CPU: Pentium M 780 ES
M/B: ASUS P4C800-E (44MG / BIOS:10001.023) + CT-479
CPU Cooling: LN2 (Pro3 + V-TEC ARC Bed Rev.3.4)
Memory: Kingston KHX3500 CL2 256MB x2
VGA: ATI rageXL (PCI)
HDD: IBM DTLA-307015
Power Supply：OCZ PowerStream 520W
Vcore: 1.790v (Actual)
Vddr: 3.65v, Vio: 3.73v, Vagp: 1.98v
OS: Windows Server 2003
MEM: 400MHz, Turbo, CL2.0-2-2-5-4-E-A-A (1:1 200MHz)
http://u-san.net/c-board/file/M780-4148_18s750.gif
insane clock on that dothan!
Congrats TAM and Team Japan!
hehehehe... AWESOME!!
:woot:
It's crazy, the time the dothans need to climb to higher numbers are getting less and less...when will we see the first 4,5GHz?!
wonderful!!!!!!!!
I want a new WR at 15*276 :)
TAM would like to thank you all :toast:
He was able to run modPI @4158MHz with better time but failed in screen caputure.
Seems they are having lower multi/higher FSB with M 780ES....
Yes, he wishes he could run at 15*276 to get 17s :D ;)
Just a question, how can you manage to run superpi @ 4158 but not making a screen? :D Sounds ironic. :toast:
HOLY S H I T! :slobber: :banana:
THAT'S INSANE!!!
CONGRATS TAM! :) :fact:
I thought you'd already know Japanese Magic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
Hehe :P I've experienced the same thing ;) I was going to do ctrl+s in paint and my sys rebooted :P
That is one sick overclock... prolly the 4.5ghz soon?
dont forget after maxmem=64 or 96 killing explorer.exe
I could test a spi 8M with a better maxmem and 4s lower than nothing
there is a maxmem for each tests of superpi
512k too low I think
1M and 2M it's the same
4M I can find
8M I know
16M I can
32M no