lol, ya, the voltage does look a bit low, i guess tahts wut they changed in the bios to help keep it going for longer than 15 hours
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lol, ya, the voltage does look a bit low, i guess tahts wut they changed in the bios to help keep it going for longer than 15 hours
we have a new usage for pentium D boilwater xD LOL almost 90°c insane
its pissin me off, i want it to melt, how much longer till it melts?!?!?!?!?
lol amd's max temp so far, is less than the minimum temp of the intell HAHAHAHAHHA
It clearly takes stock voltage to melt.
LOL ref xD that was funny i think it may be the prob that is bad i dont think any system can hold that temp btw intel is laging in far cry
man this is BS. like serouisly, wtf??
i lost the little credibility i had i thg and their reviews i think they only good thing they to is the test of tft monitors.....
ya, the monitors seem to work quite well dont they?
If these were Macs none of this mess would be happening.
Whoa you thought I was for real. jk.
THG is really "If You See Kaye"ing this one up.....
well its official... THG cant do anything right and they are CLEARLY Intel fanboys. when a system is running steady for 90 hours with no crashes u dont reset it and say its only been running for 5 hours... and the intel machine. its back to 0 crashes. how convienent. what a freeking joke...
your right it wouldnt. u know why.. macs cant run these programs!! :owned:Quote:
If these were Macs none of this mess would be happening.
what makes this even more funny is the Asus is reporting temps of 90C. im sure it isnt actually 90C but its just funny. becuase if it was reallly at 90c the system would crash in a matter of minutes as the maximum thermal specs of the cpu are not that high afaik.
EDIT: now things are getting even better. Intel is winning every benchmark except for winrar. interesting. last time they were only winning encoding... odd how that works out. anyone got an explanation?
I´ve learned a lesson...
If you need a 24/7 stable system... do not buy Pentium... Unless you have the memory of a fish, that make´s you forget every reboot. Or if you want to wake up in a burned house (That´s the kind of system that will make you same some wood in the winter)
I have to say that, imo, the best action for the THF boys is to cancel the test, saying that they weren´t able to do this "stable competition" cause Intel didn´t had a stable system. Intel can´t handle stress,lol.
The path that they have choosen to take isnt´fair for AMD, and even to Intel.
It´s time to be fair.. and stop with the circus.
No crashes.. good temps.. winning 3 out of 4... that´s the way.
He's a WITCH!Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
officially no is going to be called doris hardware guide (if you saw finding nemo you know what i mean xD)Quote:
If you need a 24/7 stable system... do not buy Pentium... Unless you have the memory of a fish, that make´s you forget every reboot. Or if you want to wake up in a burned house (That´s the kind of system that will make you same some wood in the winter)
i send to them a letter that they are putting their reputation in deep s**t with that test
That reminds me of an episode of Seinfeld when Kramer and Jerry had a bet going as to whether Kramer would build "levels" in his apartment to replace the furniture...Quote:
Originally Posted by @njo
i hope thg has a reasonable explanation for this because right now it looks like they are just bending over for intel...
lol, i knew they did something in teh bios to screw amd, I KNEW IT! by the way, amd still winning in the farcry and winrar sections hahahahaha, and yes i think THG would take a _________ in the ________ for intell as of rite now, seriously, amd was pwning everything!!!
also, i remember amd having 225 cd's when intel had like 170
Yes that's the first thing i noticed yesterday.. when it went down like the 2nd time it came back up with a slightly lower vcore. My guess is that they thought it crashed from too much heat and tried to lower it by lowering the vcore slightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ref
and wtf is up with encoding?!?! amd is still stuck at 10 minutes while intel at 170??!?! about 4 hours ago amd had the same 10 minutes and intel only 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
all credibility is gone now for THG..
why'd they start all over ? And they dropped SLi, is that for the iNTELs stability ?
eesh, what is wrong with these people ... :)
i wanna call em and be like "hey, intell loses, ok we alredy know, so yd u start the test over? now, this is wut i want u to do, put 100V into the intel, so i can watch it melt ... got it?"
nas gul, im sorry, but u must not have been paying attention, teh intel sux ass, it restarted like 5 times while the amd hadnt restarted once, they restarted the test a few hours ago, amd was winning in all but one task, sorry m8, amd = stable and the champ, intell = crap
- no flame intended
can anyone translate for me the talking of nazgul?
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Originally Posted by leviathan18
Alright,
Intel Roxxors! AMD ate my baby! I've got mail, Yaaaaaaaaay!
j/k
^^ rofl ok i understand now thank you very much for the nice translation xD
i think we have to flood their mailbox with complains about that stupid test
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Originally Posted by Nasgul
TRANSLATION: I am an Intel fanboy
lol he thinks intell is winning
thg needs some xs guys to teach them how to make a review or comparission.... they are so useless i think the only good reviews they are for tft
lol, another reboot for iNTEL ... make that #6 ;)
awwww... DAMNIT, as of rite now, it seems like the intel chip aint gonna melt, .... -.-
oh ya, my theory on the vid. encoding, thg decided to turn it off on the amd system cuz it had 10 mins when intel had 0, seriously it hasnt moved for 9 hours
intel just sitting on the desktop now. :fact: :p:
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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa
haha reboot 48 mins ago - INTEL.
Incidentally, for people too... challenged to realize it, they are using the I955x with the intel rig now. IE: An intel chipset. In other words, It's Not the nforce that caused the problems.
They switched to the p5wd2 premium sometime either monday or very early tuesday. hence everyone claiming it's the Nvidia chipset to blame... well, you're wrong.
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Originally Posted by Lithan
im sure fan boi's will come up with something! :slapass:
Don't know L, that european version of the P5W looks just so different than the AMERICAN version, silver north and south-brige cooler? BTW, great way to slap high-end DDR400 CAS 2-2-2-5 to the AMD rig and put sucky CAS 4-4-4-5 on the Intel. Whatever happened to DDR2 675 CAS 3-2-2-8, they don't exist in Munich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
*snip*
EDITed by IFMU
No reason to be rude about anything here. Please refrain from doing so in the future.
IFMU ~ XS Staff
nasgul that doesnt change the fact that the system constantly crashes and went through 2 mobos and is STILL crashing..
the test was to display the stability of the systems not the max performance.
but in any case 4-4-4-5 is average for DDR2 666 chips these days. the ultra performance ones that just came out do better. and frankly ddr1 400 2-2-2-5 has been around for YEARS and is incredibly common now days and can be had from even budget memory.
And insulting other forums members will NOT be tollerated at XS
yes, ram really has no relevancy in this issue, just like west side said, silly fan boi comes up with irrelevant excuses
oh ya, amd is now winning the cd encoding, fps in farcry, AND winrar, and of course the video encrypting is still closed on the amd system, seriously, the need to open it up
lol, i think they exited divx completley on the amd system
Nasgul, about the RAM, I just ordered 1GB of RAM costing a grand total of £80, hardly high end pricing. Who wants to bet it'll do 2-2-2 timings or at least something close, its Twinmos Speed Premium BH-5 BTW guys. Oh and it looks like they restarted DivX on the AMD, its moved since I last saw it :D
INTEL is online for like 3 hrs now, is that a new record? i want it melt too, trance565!!
seriously, we should take an eye on THG,and take a load of screenshots.
edit : haha, i swore i see 2 vid card on AMD and 1 on Intel a couple minutes ago..now each has 1.. hmm maybe they upload the wrong footage ? :nono:
lol, rite now intell isnt running any benchmarking, its been at teh same screen sicne they turned it on last, and sety, lol, erlier today they turned the amd off, and took out teh gfx card, so they both have only 1, and they resetted absolutley everything, so they could try to make intel look better, well, amd hasnt crashed, and intel has, and its about time they opened the divx gd
okay now both in Single GFX config. Maybe a problem with Intel SLI?
they have both been in single for a long time, since 130 PM tuesday, and intel was with single gfx like 2 days before amd
looks like they are gaming on the AMD.
i cant see the screen too well, wut game?
Supposedly both systems are up and benching now, yet total power consumption is 465 watts for both of em??? oh wait, guess they did remove 2 vid cards :D, and I honestly thought nasgul was being sarcastic with THAT post in this thread.
lol, they need to turn lites off, i cant see screens too well, all i kno is the intel aint benching nothing man, look its at the windows desktop, while the AMD is benching, intel is sleeping, look at the temps
ya, they are definantly gaming on the amd system, ive never seen those parts of the maps in the pics from the benching
AMD system is still running Intel isnt, check the temps and the CPU load figures on the Intel stats page ;)
Oh, and the temps are down at a "respectable" 55 deg now... better get it loaded soon, just in time for the morning tea rush/fryup...
A 50 Deg. C. IDLE, outch that hurts!
ya, how they gonna have their scrambled eggs if they dun got the intel heated up to put the frying pan on?
Over 50c for the Intel set up on idle and AMD runs below 55c whilst on full load - pretty damning. Looks like THG are going to have to reset everything again lol. Maybe they will just scrap the entire test and brush it all under carpet and forget about it so intel doesnt look bad.
The Intels benching again, but for how long?????
can somebody summarize this for me and make a timetable of what happened when more or less? if somebody does that im going to post about this on the front page in the news :D
something like the date and time they originally started the test and the original results and then a date and time note, more or less if your not sure, where they changed things and when they reset everything and the scores changed.
thg deserves some feedback for this masterpiece of journalism imo :D
Just got back from a marketing exam,I see the Intels at a toasty 85+ deg C, now wheres my bacon :D
614w, something is happening now...
down to 485w...
Just got farcry going (loading screen) @ 5:56pm.. reading 558w
627-631w while in the game (f5'ing the cam images)
LOL Intel systems gone down AGAIN!
Seems to be back up and running though...
Did they stop DivX on the X2 system? Its been on 20 mins for hours now...
Hmm well, round 1 to AMD, looks like its floored into roudn round 2 as well :D
the temperature difference between the 2 systems is amazing. intel - 85, amd -55. wow
amds killin intel.
Must admit, id prefer a stable amd rig, than a stupidly unstable, motherboard killing, heat making PIECE OF INTEL POOP! then again im indeed an amd fanboy, but intel boyo's shoudlnt say amd x2's are unstable ;)
Meh nothing new Intel is always been really buggy hardware. You guys know Prescott has 31 hard-lock bugs documented by Intel? Google it. nll this is is two prescotts tied together.. Then the chipsets, bug-masters-deluxe!!! Grantsdale and alterwood recalls but that was nothing compared i820 disaster.
Anyway I see ole Tom's Bribe-warez Guide is at it again. Intel crashed 6-8 times, with three different boards and two different memory while AMD solid 102 hours straight!!! Can't have *that* so re-set the fuggin test from ground zero. :nono: :nono:
Cheaters never prosper though..intel box with Asus board and intel chipset creashed two more times during the night. AMD solid as before.
THe test started out with both dual-core systems running on Gigabyte Motherboards, both with NF4 chipsets (for each respective platform) and two 6800GT's in SLI on 6/3/05. Four tests are running simultaneously on each system, to "stress them to their max."Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
After less than 24 hrs, the Intel system crashed and was down for a few hours. It went back up but only to crash again resulting in a dead motherboard. The first Gigabyte motherboard was replaced with an ASUS NF4 Intel ed. based board. That second board went down after about 24 hours and was replaced by yet another ASUS board, this time based on the i955 chipset.
This brings us to 6/8/05, which is when things started getting interesting. It was during this time that the Intel system was up and down many times, as witnessed by those of us in this thread. Components were switched multiple times and we really can't be sure that the original CPU that started the test is still in the system now.
Once the Intel system was back up and running, it was reported that the Intel system had crashed 4 times, but us watchers had seen it down more than that, and not just for re-installs. The Intel system now had only one 6800GT, while the AMD system was still running in SLI.
It is important to note at this point that the AMD system had never failed even once over a course of more than 100 hours, while the intel system was down many times (too many for an official count without any of us actually there). However, sometime in the later afternoon (for me here in the Midwest) yesterday both systems were restarted and the Reboots counter was reset to 0 for both systems.
Currently, both systems are running but the Intel system reports 2 reboots (for an official count of 6 since the start of the test, not to mention the numerous unofficial reboots reported by the watchers in this thread). Neither system is currently running SLI. The only time the AMD system was restarted was during yesterday's controvertial test restart/reboot counter reset.
*EDIT: Also, the system test were reset when the reboot counter was reset.
*EDIT: Looks like before the first ASUS board was used, and Epox was quickly slaughtered. Then, after the first ASUS NF4 based board was used, the P-D killed TWO Intel brand D955XBK boards. Finally, the Asus 955 board was installed. That's right: THE INTEL PENTIUM D KILLS INTEL'S OWN MOTHERBOARDS, THE VERY BOARDS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO RUN IT!!!
Mr tinker did a good job but I got "web-page-archives" every six hours I will post when all done and I'm back from my vacation.. My 24/7 AMD machine in sig, while folding and overclocked of course, is setup while I'm away to take an archive every six hours...picts and everything.Quote:
can somebody summarize this for me and make a timetable of what happened when more or less?
You must really want to see zero uptime for intel with that kind of mem OC.Quote:
reat way to slap high-end DDR400 CAS 2-2-2-5 to the AMD rig and put sucky CAS 4-4-4-5 on the Intel. Whatever happened to DDR2 675 CAS 3-2-2-8, they don't exist in Munich?
Zebo's archives would be a great addendum to the info I gave.
i call BS!!!
*somehow* the Intel Farcry FPS has magically jumped ahead of AMD, but i've been checking the screens for the past few hours and it is updating, yet i haven't seen ANY farcry or anything on the intel system, its just been on the desktop with some program open!!
Edit: what the hell is going on. The Farcry FPS just updated again.. now they are even. i still see nothing happening on the Intel screen :slapass:
ok the intel is running farcry now ,credit where its due, just not too much :D
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Originally Posted by saaya
Excellent Idea Saaya !!!
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Originally Posted by TMM
Meh.. I don't doubt this Intel EE is faster in FOUR intensive tasks containing intel micro ops than any dual core X2. Toms designed the test to show that;). After all the EE has four cores. Much like 3.2 prescott vs. a single core 4000, the 3.2 prescott *should* come out ahead in two very intensive tasks running simultanious..due to two virtual cores for intel vs. one for AMD... HT is intel's only saving grace. Too bad Intel did'nt include hyperthreading on the budget dual cores or I'd buy one. As it is though it's single, double and most multithreaded performance can't come close to AMD X2 at all.
Link
i must admit this is like a bad soap opera. it gets better by the minute.. lol... gotta love intel and THG..
i don't doubt that an intel system could be faster then an AMD system in that situation either, but it was clearly getting spanked before (intel rig was under 30fps iirc, and the AMD was about where it is now 36-37fps)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zebo
Could it be because neither are now in SLI? Either way the AMD is KICKING A$$!!!
Dragon
Would love a PD 3.2 vs. X2 4400+ stress test, but by a reliable source, e.g. Anandtech or Xbitlabs ...
Not fair when intel has HT ...
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Originally Posted by TMM
Don't pay attention it FPS. It's a brief moment in time which sometimes the AMD X2 chip will be way up there sometimes the P4DEE depending on complexity of that particular texture at that second the web shot was taken.... The number of signifigance (if there is any such thing from THG) is "runs completed."
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Originally Posted by Ref
Ditto brotha.. Toms loses credibility every article he publishes. Seriously, every article has major flaws and is light on content and test suits.. Sorta the "national enquirer" of the computer press world.
zebo clearly u dont read the INQ ... www.inquirer.net
damn i missed the 2 reboots of the intel mini chernobyl
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Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
LOL Nope.
In all fairness to Tom himself he was the man, but sold his biz for 30 million to some big league publishing company and now he's sailing the South Pacific someplace and the content has dropped percipitously since the sale.
http://www.theinquirer.net/ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
the inquirer is the worst site every 2 o 3 days they say a very secret inside source (that they dont know) told us intel was going to be bought by amd and everybody start linking that notice in their sites and 2 weeks later they say i think our source was wrong... that is the inquirer....
Yes this is a little unfair to compair a chip with pretty much 4 cores to chip with one when you have FOUR apps running...but LOL seems that the INTEL rig CAN"T HANG!!! it keeps rebotting and that is AFTER killing what 3 mobos and replacing the ram and so on!!! LOL HA HA seems to me the AMD rig is beating it ALL around even in multitasking lol...or well intel come back and play one you you have 2 pentium M's on one chip...
Dragon
Why is the AMD systems NOT running divx? it has been at 20 min forever...also the AMD system is on 470 something loops well the Intel system is only 250 something and is double the winrare files!!!!
Dragon
oops sorry about the link. i always space on that link for some reason.
i agree the INQ has alot of dodgy info but some of it is good. and its a funny website if u ask me. personally i really like mike magee
zebo.. i hear ya about the real tom.. it was better back then... now toms is the biggest whoring website on the net.. long live XS, Xbit and Anand.
guy what do you think about that the intel rig never went 60hrs straight... just the amd 100+Quote:
Monday, June 6, 2005: Our stress test has now been going for more than 60 hours. The systems from AMD and Intel are running steadily under full load, and a lot has happened in the Munich THG lab during this time
You know that is true the Intel rig hasn't run for more than what 10 hours?
Dragon
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Originally Posted by FireDragon
Is it just me or is the Intel rig starting to catch up to the AMD rig at a rather alarming pace compared to before?
i think they gave priority to the cd encoding as you can see the fps in far cry are very low so they can say hey intel 2 amd 2
anyone else notice theres a white box in the middle of the intel screen, i think its running far cry right now but it looks like theres an eror message or something.
i cant see the screens of the systems link please :(
linkity link link
edit HAHAHAHAH the game crashed
i hope the machine crashes again and again lets make bets
to the end of the test how many crash will have intel rig
i say at least 6
HAHA, fantastic, I pray the intel fails, not because I hate intel, but because of the trouble it'll cause THG to attempt to force a draw, anyone with a brain cell could tear it appart.
id say 8 crashes and i also bet they'll destroy that cpu by the end of the testing.
The intel week overview chart hasn't been updated in a couple days and reporst the start of the test as 6/3/05. The AMD chart IS constantly updated abut reports the start of the test as yesterday when the test was restarted and fails to show the 100+ hours the test was running before it was restarted.
Hope you got those archives, Zebo.