:eek:
that's insane
can't wait till we see those numbers
probably will :slapass: nvidia
ps. wonder if that macci pose will ever catch on :hrhr:
:eek:
that's insane
can't wait till we see those numbers
probably will :slapass: nvidia
ps. wonder if that macci pose will ever catch on :hrhr:
If you dig into computex a bit you will know where this thread is leading =)
There was one dude there that spoke about macci.
But im not gonna ruin the fun of this thread :nono:
Guess they gotta hurry up getting new drivers to be accepted by futuremark.
he's at ati...... :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
Good one! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
=.= :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
http://www.akiba-pc.com/toronto/sigu.PNG
I have a feeling its 15,098 :eek:
But I'm sure Shamino has some Backup scores lying around :p:
Perkam
I guess on 16098 or can it be higher ??
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Originally Posted by perkam
Hhmm... I don't think so. Look at the spacing between the black box and the 1, the only number that could fit in there, is another 1. The other numbers are closer together due to being wider. Don't you think?
I don't know what the 3rd number is. :D
my guess is it's a single card score
11198
you mean Sli'd G70 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
That will still not beat SLi'd R520 I would guess, at least as far as futuremark is concerned I would have thought. That is some way off now though it seems.
Regards
Andy
Well, of course no-one can say for sure, but if you look at the rumours, which are all we have to go by and make assumptions with, R520 with its 32 pipes would have to be massively inefficient to lose to the 24 pipe G70. Also bringing multiple cards in the equation, i think its safe to assume (for now at least), from the very early results, that crossfire itself is at least on a par with SLI. Also notice how zakelwe says 'I would guess' and 'I would have thought'.
Remember last year when Ati made a press release shortly after releasing R420 where they stated they had broken the 3DMark world record with and amazingly clocked R420? Well, my bet is that this time it won't be different.
PD:Macci was the author of that record wasn't he?
I mean with ATI hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Dig deeper into Computex =)
why is this score keept as a secret?
because it is not final, could get higher before Macci goes home
Very mysterious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I can't see anyone beating macci with Ati hardware ( unless macci has not got enough cascades to go around ) because he's at ATi with 900MHz card clocks. I would imagine macci will be using the most cherry picked cards of all time ....
And the person at Computex will not be beating him if he has 2x r520 because it will not be publishable at all until that category goes up.
Any more clues ? :)
Regards
Andy
I was talking about beating shamino.
What happend to macci and gray ?
Total silence ?
The secret is out :P
http://www.vr-zone.com/newspics/Jun05/01/IMG_0061-s.jpg
Woot!!
daaaaaaaaaaaamn thats high! im sure nvidia will have something to attack this with soon enough tho.....
has futuremark added crossfire support? OR does it just show as one card?
Nice work there :toast:
My wild guess is that Record will stay.. lets say a month :cool:
Amazing sportsmanship there Shamino...ty for breaking the news...Now lets count how long it takes for Saaya to update the front page with this :p: j/k.Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
Almost 900 points more than the last record... is truly nuts. But me wanna see 45k :D
Perkam
Perfect marketing by ATI.
And what an experience for macci. I love this!!
"Crossfire" is a really sweet name...
VR-Zone has this post earlier today:
"Interestingly, he mentioned that the 3DMark05 world records for single and dual cards have been broken by none other than macci. He also mentioned about a 5 digits score on a single card which is certainly incredible and a score much higher than 14472 set by Shamino using NVIDIA 6800U SLI on the Crossfire platform. Of course, Catalyst 5.6 was used which improve 3DMark05 performance by some 10% according to ATI."
http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/IMG_0061-t.jpg
FX5???
Check out that GT2...
So i don't get to smash a cpu? Darn. :rolleyes:
Very good attempt, Macci. can we get clockspeeds? Anyone?
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Originally Posted by LardArse
*Scratches eyes* as I slowly wake up to this insane score. Well done.
:toast:
Since,I live in Richmond Hill maybe I can get sneak peak at this at
ATI HQ.. :D jk =D
fx-5x?????
wow very nicely done macci ... where's the gallery of hardware setup pics ? :D
What score did he get with single card ??
But the X850XT PE isnt new.
Wow! Excellent score Macci! Any info on what the clocks were at the time? What rendering mode? I'm assuming there's still more left in the tank, especially if 5.6s weren't used.
Also, my guess was only 100 points off (but the approximation I used to get it was only 2!). :p:
You are not the only one - not to put down macci at the least - absolutely an amazing score and great effort! - but I have a feeling he was there more to authenticate the bench scores than anything else. DOubt that a bunch of ATI engineers couldn't have done the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Troman
Sure it was tons of fun for him and a great experience!
HOLY :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ING :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
that is insane.
is that the 904 core run? how is one card doing? at the limits? so many questions
Troman, you should know that OCing does not cause linear performance increases.
even if it did, the first really xtreme attemps in the first few days after the technology is released are not going to give the best results, give it a few weeks, and a few other intense tries, 16K will fall with current generation hardware.
That new WR is done by CrossFire, look at the pic.
Wow! Excellent score Macci! Any info on what the clocks were at the time? What rendering mode? I'm assuming there's still more left in the tank, especially if 5.6s weren't used.
Also, my guess was only 100 points off (but the approximation I used to get it was only 2!). :p:
Actually no cards nor boards were cherry picked. Anyone can get the same numbers, they just need to know how. We only had a couple of boards and they all did pretty much the same.
A true cherry picked board could probably approach 1 GHz.
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Originally Posted by zakelwe
NIceeeee !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Though Grayskull, now that you are listening...what is your take on this 2xSlave Card thingy ??? Will ATI discourage the use of two slave cards for Crossfire???
Perkam
and will 2 master card work? and be faster?
edit : i doubt it.. but since no one mentioned about having 2 master card
You guys have obviously not tried. Once you try it and beat his score, then you can tell us all how easy it is. I have stood and watched him work for a few days now and the man knows his trade.
If taking out the competition by ~1000 points at this early stage is not impressive then I don't know what is. Especially since when you look at the screen during a 15000+ run, you can actually see the image properly, not like some other runs :rolleyes: where you're struggling to figure out what you're looking at.
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Originally Posted by mikeguava
This achievements deserves its own thread ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=64513
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH !!! Grayskull puts the :slapass: on LOD Bias ;) You're right :D But I hope you guys break more than 15.5k :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GraySkull
How long is Macci in Canada anyway ??? I hope you guys take him to visit the CN Tower at least..lets not let him leave without the full Canadian Experience :nono: :D
Perkam
i thought it could be higher, maybe 17xxx or 18xxx maybe was to much, but now its like someone above said, beating nvidia for half an inch, but remember that is an early score and sli score improoved a lot with newer drivers. maybe 17xxx could be done in a few months.
anyone has the link to futuremark??
please run 3dmark01 an 03
Yeah, and when does the Jabba the Hutt edition master card w/ Princess Leah edition slave card bundle come out?
Now that would be something nice to aquire. :)Quote:
A true cherry picked board could probably approach 1 GHz.
Congrats on the awesome scores macci! :woot:
Yes you're right better drivers will mean better scores...though i doubt they can publish to Futuremark with Crossfire...I just checked and it isnt there. Cmon Man...Where are the 01 WRs Macci :D Though take a break or two after that 15k :DQuote:
Originally Posted by metro_oc.cl
Perkam
Spring/early summer is always the most exciting time, eh? Time to hide the credit cards from myself.
i know right... damn... good job macci! And its nice to see ATI (once again) teaming up with Macci...Quote:
Originally Posted by drcrawn
god, that's higher than my 3dmark 03 score, and i thought that was heavily overclocked. Didn't he do this last year as well? Head to ATI hq with the x800 xt pe, and get it to 700mhz core, and get (i think) 8400 3dmark 05 or something? Played on the 15k, this'll be the stuff of legends. Will there be an in-depth article about it at all? The mods, the cooling, stuff that went wrong(if anything)/right?
I was @R420 launch in Barcelona last spring (almost exactly a year ago).Quote:
Didn't he do this last year as well? Head to ATI hq with the x800 xt pe, and get it to 700mhz core, and get (i think) 8400 3dmark 05 or something?
The Funny thing is that back then the result (in Mark03) was almost the same :D
Read more about that here
Specifically, was there any salted licorice in the backpack, or just hardware?
with you name on the 3dmark05 credits, macci, i thought you'd break the 16k for sure.
so 904 was final clockspeed on both cards? what about the mem?
904 core is for the single card record, dual cards were running at lower speeds.
16k is more than possible. 3DMark05 is becoming a bit CPU/System limited with this kind of Video speed (even with one card at 900MHz) :D
Here are the screenshots once more if you missed the other thread :)
Single:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/toronto/9591f.PNG
Dual:
http://www.akiba-pc.com/toronto/15498f.PNG
I think I'll go for 2001 with Dothan and a fast AGP card ;)Quote:
Where are the 01 WRs Macci :D Though take a break or two after that 15k :D
And yes you can be sure that I do take a good Break :D
wow thats freaking crazy... :slobber:
What about the cpu for the Crossfire 15K+ run? Was it the same FX-55 you used for the 9k+ single card run?Someone here mentioned FX-57...that's why I'm asking you.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
PD: Did you enjoy your stay @ Barcelona? I live there actually, just curious 'bout your impression of my city :D.
Do you think you can get the clock speed of the Dothan high enough to get the 01 record?Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Im going to go with yes as it is macci. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nerm
Those dothans have some nice power
Sexullant runs there man :clap:
OMG!! look at all the record breaking runs in the background!!!
wow, insane macci. I cant wait for someone here to get one of the cherry-picked cards, put it under LN2 or cascade and get 1ghz core clock. Nice job, Go for the trifecta (01, 03, and u already got 05).
wow, that is truly amazing
congrats on those nice results
and macci, do u think 10k single card is possible with some more cpu or mem power?
Yeah...just noticed...if you take a look at the background of the two images macci posted a couple of posts above, you'll see 15.1k, before he reached the 15.4..and the 9.1k before he reached the 9.5...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
Nice Find :D Someone forgot to hide their icons before pressing print screen :D
Perkam
you can as well
I can't beleive i was that close on the clockspeeds.... :eek: i just guessed what it would take to go #1...
:rolleyes: like I just pulled those numbers out of my head. :fact:
Good job macci!
So, dothan and an x850 for 10k? :confused: You've gotta be kidding. Isn't the dothan singlechannel?
Anyway, i've still got that cpu and hammer...break 16k before the end of computex, and those 2 will still meet...Not like i don't have an extra :rolleyes: :D
I think a 3.6/3.7 dothan + a good x800xtpe agp would be enough for 2001 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerm
Sweet....cant wait to see a 3d01 run:)
he has a converter so that it will run on SKT 478, with 875, dual channel, DDR1, all those benifits.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
The top ten single and multi card results could be totally flooded by Macci if he so chooses. These are not one run wonders, there were many, many single card runs greater than 9047 and quite a few over 14600 with 2 cards.
Most of the results are hidden. ;)
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Originally Posted by perkam
and i was so happy today cuz i did 6618 with my two 6600gt :(
well i guess all of you have better cooling better hardware and now a lot more than me xD looking forward to see all the results from macci with crossfire
I'll be impressed when you can actually put that into a case and make scores like that...
Well...Shamino's result werent on air or water either...so special cooling means special storage...that's a nobrainer. On water or Air, we already know how they do...In crossfire, they'll just do a couple of thousand less.Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
Perkam
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
i'd like to see the driver used. will the 5.6 give me those scores at those clocks?
LoL. You are only stating the obvious...1000 points means a possible 1000 scores... :rolleyes:
or you could do something crazy like turning off T&L... :D
If you can ship me pair of X850 XT PE Crossfire cards and a Xpress 200 motherboard in one or two weeks, me & my friend Kamu will try take that score down. I'll propably get the hardware in a month but at that time it'll be too late... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
How does it sound? :D
How does it sound? Sounds like someone is very confident in their abilities. Exactly how confident...?
As to whether or not it will be too late, only time will tell. :D
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Originally Posted by Sampsa
If you want to achieve something you need to be confident, I'm not....but I will break 12K with the setup in my sig :fact: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
I dunno...i think grayskull is calling 'em on. "Just what are you willing to wager?" is what i hear...and "it best be good, or ya gonna have to wait."
like this maybe :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
you oughta supply the slave card, and let gskull supply the master card. That will help show that no cherry picking occurred here....
:woot: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
excellent macci - what power supply you using with the system ?
You ought to be a RAM salesman :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
So, is macci going to tell the other overclockers this secret tweaking you have taught him because nobody else, including the top overclockers has got near to 900Mhz before, including macci of course.
Regards
Andy
PS I would not write off Sampsa and Kamu lightly, they are very good overclockers as well and would no doubt use Ln2 on both cards. In theory they should be able to beat macci's score.
They have to be hand picked cards, there is just no other explanation for that core clock. Macci knows his stuff but we're not born yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
If there are secrets, I'm sure they will remain unspoken at least for a while. Maci did hint us into the Ricky Tweak so he may eventually show us the secret :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Actually there is another very reasonable explanation. Macci got an awesome kick a$$ piece of cooling hardware coupled with a few extra tweaks he might have learned from ATI which made all the difference and pushed the card to 900mhz...
edit: but then again i maybe wrong and it might be cherry picked hardware. But i tend to trust grayskull when he says that its not cherry picked. Regardless I'd like to see Nvidea top that score with their 6800 ultras...
I would tend to lean on perfect contact and insane capacity. It was holding -84c -+1 and that screen shot showed his core clock at 904Mhz and the card core temp of -76c!
Dont forget about the CPU is also powered by the same cascade.
WoooooooooooW
thats good news for the future
should sell the old skool Sli Ultraas by now :(
Macci and Grayskull...
Can you give any info on what is needed to pass 15k ?? - Drivers will properly get better with time...
BUt...
Is it realistic to hit 15k in 05 with 2x x850XT at 700 / 650 mhz??? (Im gonna go for waterchilling at 25 degree's C @ LOAD...)
Well I was pretty happy when I reached 470 on core with water on my 9800PRO, 470 core HAH! Good work neighbour ;)
Well you were the one who said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
"Once you try it and beat his score, then you can tell us all how easy it is"
As far as I know, no other overclocker has the Crossfire hardware so it's pretty hard even to try to beat the score ;)
Just like me with A64 X2 4800+ CPU :cool:
Actually not just like you :nono: :D An X2 was tested under the cold a long time ago and it ran 266 2-2-2-5 @X12 (3180 MHz) completely stable on the Crossfire Edition motherboard. Maybe I should let Macci have a crack at PCMark while he's here.
Crossfire hardware will be available soon enough and everyone can take a crack at it. :D
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Originally Posted by Sampsa
hopefully, it has wide availability in Australia too.. don't forget us Aussies!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
Believe what you will, but I will tell you again, these are not hand picked cards. What you should consider is that someone knows how to tweak things better than anyone else. It is possible and in this case it is true. :fact:
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Originally Posted by G H Z
He has always made ATI go very very fast, it's nothing new. He always achieves very high card clocks and only a few other guys get into the same realm, I considered that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
What I find hard to believe is that you would fly him over to play around with just average hardware.
Either way it is an amazing feat and not too surprising coming from Macci.
I haven't really pushed an X850 before - the AGP X800XTPE I've got has served me well for 3D runs so far :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zakelwe
We've seen OPP do over 850 w/ cascade - the biggest tweak for the 904 clock was the cooling - LN2, the core contact wasn't bad either :D
edit: I think we reached around 864 with XtremeFrostByte3 at -85C.
...but yes I suppose it does take a bit more than just the cooling and the Vgpu mod to get there... ;)
And it was a PC Power&Cooling 850W PSU.
Loved it - will be there again sometimes this summer :toast: (<- big beer from Tapa-apat :D)Quote:
PD: Did you enjoy your stay @ Barcelona? I live there actually, just curious 'bout your impression of my city
Any dates yet when the public can grab one?Quote:
Crossfire hardware will be available soon enough and everyone can take a crack at it.
Any back up to this? If I grab a PE (currently have non-PE maxing @ 755 fully modded and running approx. -50C under load) and throw it on LN2 fully modded but can only grab 850-875 you'll exchange cards? :stick:Quote:
Believe what you will, but I will tell you again, these are not hand picked cards.
BTW once again macci awesome runs! :toast: Any chance of running 01 or 03 in the near future or just gonna hold off?
LN2 really is the 5h|t :)
Great work macci as always, but isn't time for Dothan and a X850XT PE AGP now? :D
I was wondering how you had such a small TD :p:
Thanks for clearing that up.
crossfire=ownage
FUGGER's avatar=more ownage....haha
as long as hes on your cooling, it shouldnt be a problem.
Yes, I hadn't realised you were on LN2 as that was not mentioned before I posted, I was under the impression it was under cascade. It's interesting to note how well the cheap TSMC 110nm process overclocks compared to the more expensive low K 130nm TSMC process ...given enough cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Regards
Andy
may i asume that crossfire sucks at 3dmark03 or 3dmark01??? couse no benches are showed??
also macci said he is might brake 01 with a dothan and a x800xt, is crossfire not giving enough or is it because the x850xt are slower mhz by mhz than the x800xt??
I don't think ATI would want to spend any time benching pre-release hardware on an old benchmark;)
Hang in there someone will show us very soon what it's really capable of.