AMD Turion 64 2800+ First Look!!

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03-08-2005, 02:18 PM
perkam

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They arent unreasonably expensive until you get over 2ghz.

LOL The only ones that arent unreasonable are the 725 (1.6) and 735(1.7) and they too are $50 to $100 more than Winnies at the same speed rating. And the 745 costs more than the 3800+ in addition to the fact that mobos for these procs are same cost as the DFI LP SLI-DR ($230) and dont even have dual-channel. And the alviso has yet to come and will be even more expensive due to exclusivity :rolleyes: so pls dont tell me it isnt unreasonable.

Perkam
03-08-2005, 02:42 PM
ozzimark

remember that amd has to take market share away from intel, so for about equivilent performance, the chip should be much cheaper (similar to how it is on the desktop right now, minus the extreme high end, fx's and EE's)
03-08-2005, 04:43 PM
perkam

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1x512 crucial ballistix pc3200 [230mhz :: 2.5-2-2-10 - 2.6v]

Whoa !!! Ozzimark, thats ballistix u have there, give it some volts man, 230 at cas 2.5 is...well un-xtreme :D

And yes you're right Turions will make great competitors specially at competitive prices, though I'm still waiting for more news on its feature-set.

Perkam
03-08-2005, 06:18 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Whoa !!! Ozzimark, thats ballistix u have there, give it some volts man, 230 at cas 2.5 is...well un-xtreme :D

a limit of my memory controller. i need 2t to go much past 230mhz now
i used to be able to do 245 at 2.65v.. it's been slowly declining
and 2-2-2 only gets me to 209mhz. my old bh-5 that can do 220 at 2-2-2 with 2.8v on an nf2 acts the same way. :stick:

(read: i'm dying for a new cpu, but i'm holding out for a mobile 90nm :toast: )
03-09-2005, 02:36 PM
_Eduard_

Anyone have any idea how long it will take untill these Turions hit the market?
03-09-2005, 03:33 PM
perkam

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Eduard_

Anyone have any idea how long it will take untill these Turions hit the market?

EDIT: See thread here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=52361

April 18th seems to be it ;)

Perkam
03-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Rabbi_NZ

Man I want one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrJay

How many you lookin' for?

can you get them DrJay?
03-09-2005, 09:40 PM
frostedflakes

I'm interested too. Why not do a bulk order and sell them to XS members? If you'd be willing to sell them for a good price (at or slightly over cost) I'm sure there would be people here willing to buy them. I know I would be one.
03-09-2005, 10:33 PM
perkam

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Why not do a bulk order and sell them to XS members?

That you only need to do with really expensive cpus and those ones you dont care about the steppings for like xeons, ppl here like to search for their own procs just so that they can get better steppings, get better prices or get a combo or something. It also leaves the commitment part out of it so you can make your decision on your own time.

I dont think that'll be an issue really. But I just hope ALL turion's clock well and not just the ones with good steppings. cos if i see a SINGLE CBBID TURION LOL, I"M GONNA :flame: it !!

Perkam
03-09-2005, 10:42 PM
frostedflakes

I'm just afraid that only a handful of vendors will carry these, and because of this the few that do will sell them for rediculously high prices. :(
03-09-2005, 11:29 PM
JDizzle

Looks like AMD has launched the Turion. Who's going to be the first person to buy one?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...boi/Turion.jpg

AMD Official Link

Anantech Link
03-09-2005, 11:54 PM
Tenknics

More Turion news:

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2374
03-10-2005, 04:41 AM
perkam

Interesting, they're prices are quite competitive relative to Dothans, but can we say the same about performance ;) ??

Prices:

35W Models
AMD Turion 64 ML-37 2.0Ghz, 1MB $354
AMD Turion 64 ML-34 1.8Ghz, 1MB $263
AMD Turion 64 ML-32 1.8Ghz, 512K $220
AMD Turion 64 ML-30 1.6Ghz, 1MB $184

25W Models
AMD Turion 64 MT-34 1.8Ghz, 1MB $268
AMD Turion 64 MT-32 1.8Ghz, 512K $225
AMD Turion 64 MT-30 1.6Ghz, 1MB $189

25-Watt models more expensive by only $5.00 :up:

Perkam
03-10-2005, 07:07 AM
ozzimark

hmmm.. i'm very tempted to go with the mt-34.
any word on the voltage for the 25 watt models? i'm surprised that they're only $5 more.. i was expecting like 25-50 :stick:
03-10-2005, 07:39 AM
Franky 4 Finger

I wonder if they can compete when Dothan goes dual channel
03-10-2005, 07:39 AM
=[PULSAR]=

Does anyone have a clue of the max operating temps of these chips?
03-10-2005, 07:49 AM
ozzimark

need only post that once :D

look at the opn. the X before the 5LD indicates the same 95º max die temp as the old mobile chips.
03-10-2005, 07:56 AM
isp

So maybe my old s754 board is good for something after all... ??? :hehe:
Let's speculate on the default voltage... 1.25? 1.3?
03-10-2005, 08:00 AM
=[PULSAR]=

I believe its 1.4 :)
03-10-2005, 08:00 AM
ozzimark

k = 1.35v :toast:

i did some calculations that imply that the 25w line needs 1.15v to meet the tdp.
03-10-2005, 08:24 AM
_Eduard_

w00t. Definately getting the MT-30, only like 200 euros :slobber: and it'll do at least 2.5ghz im SURE
03-10-2005, 10:27 AM
perkam

Hmmm....from what I've been reading the 512kb ones are Oakvilles and the 1MB ones are Lancasters which isnt good since Lancasters are the super winnies ;) Can someone correct me if I'm wrong ??

Perkam
03-10-2005, 10:32 AM
frostedflakes

Technically I guess they're Oakvilles, but they won't be like the current D0 Oakvilles. They'll use the E3 core. Basically a Lancaster with 1/2 the cache.
03-10-2005, 10:46 AM
perkam

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Basically a Lancaster with 1/2 the cache.

Are you perfectly sure it isnt a different core ?

Perkam
03-10-2005, 11:40 AM
frostedflakes

I'm 99% sure. The whole Turion line is marketed as having SSE3 instructions, and current Winchesters don't have these features. So I couldn't see what else it would be other than a Lancaster core with 512kb L2.
03-10-2005, 12:02 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by fr0stedflakes

Technically I guess they're Oakvilles, but they won't be like the current D0 Oakvilles. They'll use the E3 core. Basically a Lancaster with 1/2 the cache.

oakville is still based on the D0 core that the winchesters are though...

i still think lancaster is the 512kb part while newark is the 1mb part.
03-10-2005, 12:05 PM
krampak

And which software uses SSE3?
03-10-2005, 12:20 PM
ozzimark

i don't really know of much yet.. i think some video encoding stuff does

edit: just saw the new amd roadmap.. the newark core hasn't been assigned to anything yet, so.... i dunno what's up with it. probably the cheaper and higher wattage 'mobiles'
03-11-2005, 01:31 AM
computersmsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Eduard_

w00t. Definately getting the MT-30, only like 200 euros :slobber: and it'll do at least 2.5ghz im SURE

200 € is VERY expensive ;)
A good Winchester 3000+ @ 130 € can 2.7 GHz en air with Dual Channel and no prob with 2 stick of 512 Mo ;)
03-11-2005, 02:40 PM
_Eduard_

Quote:

Originally Posted by computersmsa

200 € is VERY expensive ;)
A good Winchester 3000+ @ 130 € can 2.7 GHz en air with Dual Channel and no prob with 2 stick of 512 Mo ;)

ok, first of all that is a "good" winchester. I'm sure a "good" Turion could do near 3GHz. furthermore, the Turion has 1mb cache, support for more RAM, SSE3, etc
03-11-2005, 07:52 PM
DrJay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ

can you get them DrJay?

No, I was just being a wise @ss.
03-12-2005, 03:05 AM
americium

So, Turion been anounced 2 days ago. Wonder if sxs212 is going to let usk now which mobo was he using with that Turion sample he got ;)
03-12-2005, 07:05 AM
c7775

well be getting in a couple to sample within two weeks so if anyone
wants a Turion64 2800+ you can PM me and ill see what i can do :toast:
03-12-2005, 10:43 AM
tritium

Does any one know if these new processors use Strained Silicon.
03-12-2005, 11:02 AM
c7775

enough interest generated :)
whoever PMed me until know, ill contact you
if you did not , then im sorry but we wont be getting
enough chips :)
03-12-2005, 11:49 AM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by tritium

Does any one know if these new processors use Strained Silicon.

it's not confirmed, but i am under the assumption that amd got DSL working with these chips. i don't know if they'll actually tell us if they have or not though. :confused:
03-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Revv23

so will upwards multi's be locked?

thats all i want to know.
03-12-2005, 12:11 PM
frostedflakes

current mobiles are only half-locked like the desktop chips, so I'd assume it's downward multis only.
03-12-2005, 11:37 PM
dcg

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Eduard_

w00t. Definately getting the MT-30, only like 200 euros :slobber: and it'll do at least 2.5ghz im SURE

Well, looking a this mobile clawhammer 3400+ (0.13) I really hope Turions will do better than 2.5GHz :)

http://crazypc.ro/forum/index.php?sh...t=0&#entry9759

3GHz of good ol' clawhammer power, maybe Turions don't look so tempting after all :slobber:

yes, it is romanian, but the screenshots do speak loud and clear :toast:
03-13-2005, 01:57 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

i thougt so as well, but it reads the volts correctly on the first cpu-z screenie and 2ghz with 1v isnt THAT far off, ive seen 2ghz with 1.2v already...

happy bday sxs btw! :toast: :D

well ive seen 2ghz with 1.15v :p:
03-13-2005, 06:21 AM
shuRe

the new A64 dtr's seem dam good when it comes to o/cing. Seen loads of 3400+ at 2.7g lately.

Do you think its possible that these new dtr's are AMD experimenting with early versions of turions? or are turions a completely different core?
03-13-2005, 07:25 AM
jjcom

Turions are suposed to be a different core than the regular A64, I believe. Correct me if I'm worng. The DTR chips that are being talked about are 130nm and the Turons are 90nm so, their different cores.

jjcom
03-13-2005, 07:53 AM
ozzimark

i'm pretty sure jjcom is right.. the old mobiles are just the best of the yeilds in order to make the thermal bin, as a side effect, they overclock really well too.
i'm hoping the turion is similar and doesn't turn out to be a chip that has a very defined top end and isn't insensitive to voltage. time will tell though :toast:
03-13-2005, 12:39 PM
dcg

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuRe

the new A64 dtr's seem dam good when it comes to o/cing. Seen loads of 3400+ at 2.7g lately.

The link i posted is not about a DTR chip..is a true mobile. Sorry if i went off topic :)
03-14-2005, 02:13 AM
Rabbi_NZ

Would all those considering buying a Turion for a DFI nF3 LanPartyUT please let me know via PM.

Cheers :toast:
03-14-2005, 07:50 AM
ozzimark

are you making a petition?
i already fired off an email to msi tech support and i'm trying to gather interest in the msi forums.
i guess i can try to do the same for the k8n neo platinum, though i don't think as many people here use that board :toast:
03-14-2005, 11:12 AM
perkam

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Turions are suposed to be a different core than the regular A64, I believe. Correct me if I'm worng. The DTR chips that are being talked about are 130nm and the Turons are 90nm so, their different cores.

Yeah as was stated before by someone Turions are 90nm SOI Lancasters with 1M cache. The 512K versions of the Lancasters are called Oakvilles ;) which is the successor of the Odessa core: 130nm mobile claws everyone above is referring to.

And yes they're confirmed SSE3, Strained Silicon, and 35-25W Voltage Processors.

Perkam
03-14-2005, 11:42 AM
Grov

Heheh cool. Might get one if they o/c nicely. though probly not worth it. :p:
03-14-2005, 12:44 PM
perkam

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though probly not worth it.

Unless u dont mind a score of 40+ even with 3ghz Turion, yes dual channel cripples Turion for desktop implementation but low power requirement means a lot more OCing coming in the way of notebooks ocers.

Perkam
03-14-2005, 12:47 PM
ozzimark

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

And yes they're confirmed SSE3, Strained Silicon, and 35-25W Voltage Processors.

where did you see that? i've been looking everywhere to find an official source that says that amd is actually putting strained silicon into these, but i haven't found any.
03-14-2005, 09:05 PM
Rabbi_NZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

are you making a petition?
i already fired off an email to msi tech support and i'm trying to gather interest in the msi forums.
i guess i can try to do the same for the k8n neo platinum, though i don't think as many people here use that board :toast:

not so much a petition as support/help in getting the new BIOS... but if you want to know more please PM, as I wont discuss in open forum
03-15-2005, 05:52 AM
Penti

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

And yes they're confirmed SSE3, Strained Silicon, and 35-25W Voltage Processors.

Well not really, they don't use strained silicon wafers, they use the technology they developed with IBM. Strained Silicon-On-Insulator (sSOI wafers that is). But otherwise is probably totaly correct that this is the first product with it from AMD. There plenty of pages regarding sSOI, includings both IBMs and AMDs.

/me still waiting for dual core laptops :D
03-15-2005, 06:56 AM
ozzimark

Dual Stress Liners. i believe it's a form of stress that uses both expansion and comression for the various types of transistors (high voltage and low voltage threshold iirc). google it and you'll come up with something.
i just wasn't sure if rev E had it cause i haven't seen any official word yet.
03-15-2005, 08:39 AM
_Eduard_

Whatever it is, it can't be worse :toast:
03-15-2005, 08:51 AM
frostedflakes

I remember reading in an article that Troy (rev E4 Opteron) had it, so I guess one could assume all the new revisions do as well. :)
03-15-2005, 09:33 AM
wickedld9

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Unless u dont mind a score of 40+ even with 3ghz Turion, yes dual channel cripples Turion for desktop implementation but low power requirement means a lot more OCing coming in the way of notebooks ocers.

Perkam

score of 40+ what?
03-15-2005, 10:00 AM
c7775

friday ill have some updates once we set up the turions up.

confirmed as arriving : 1X 1.8Ghz 25watt , 1X 1.6GHz 35 watt
03-15-2005, 11:23 AM
frostedflakes

Nice. :)

What boards you going to try them in? If they work, I'd very very interested in knowing how the 1.8GHz 25w overclocks (this is the 1mb L2 version, and not 512kb?), as this is what I would probably buy.
03-15-2005, 12:15 PM
ozzimark

also, what is the rated voltage for the 25w part?
03-15-2005, 07:26 PM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

also, what is the rated voltage for the 25w part?

Until we know I'm guessing 1.2 V (= "Q" in OPN).
The 35 W ML uses 1.35 V and goes up to 2.4 GHz.
The 25 W MT uses 1.?? V and goes up to 2.2 GHz.
I checked CPUPower (must use comma for decimals): (35 : 1,35 : 2400 @ 1,2 : 2200) = 25.3 W
03-15-2005, 09:36 PM
ozzimark

i was thinking a 1.15v part, but that seems way too low for a stock voltage at 2.2ghz
03-16-2005, 03:55 AM
c7775

its a 1.1V

and only overclocking ill do is to change the multiplier, our pcbs dont
allow for fsb increases ... will wait until Said goes around to modding
the bios of our reference msi boards to work with those puppies :toast:
03-16-2005, 07:34 AM
ozzimark

considering how my conversation with msi tech support is going, it looks like someone is going to need to mod the k8n neo bios to get the turion working. it might already, i don't know, but they're not being very receptive, and claiming that the system won't boot due to the low stock voltages :stick:

but as a side note, 1.8ghz on 1.1v!!! omg, nice.
03-16-2005, 08:55 AM
frostedflakes

1.1v is very yummy... I think my mind is made up.

As long as it's under $300, I'll be picking up an MT-34. :)
03-16-2005, 11:07 AM
c7775

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

considering how my conversation with msi tech support is going, it looks like someone is going to need to mod the k8n neo bios to get the turion working. it might already, i don't know, but they're not being very receptive, and claiming that the system won't boot due to the low stock voltages :stick:

but as a side note, 1.8ghz on 1.1v!!! omg, nice.

ill let you know how the neo works with teh chip by early next week at the latest m8 :) take care
03-16-2005, 12:30 PM
ozzimark

thanks, i appreciate the effort. seriously :toast:

*figures out a way to work for amd*
:banana: :banana:
03-17-2005, 09:59 AM
Mats

1.1 V???
Heh, awesome... well they have the possibility to ramp up to 1.2 V when the faster MT comes out. The question is if the ML will stay at 1.35 V. If so, then this 1.8 GHz @ 1.1 V CPU have a TDP = 17.4 W... :toast:
03-17-2005, 12:28 PM
ozzimark

where do you get this 17.4w from?
undervolt a 35w chip from 1.35v to 1.1v..
wattage = 35 * (1.1 / 1.35)² = 23w :stick:
03-18-2005, 08:51 AM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

where do you get this 17.4w from?
undervolt a 35w chip from 1.35v to 1.1v..
wattage = 35 * (1.1 / 1.35)² = 23w :stick:

You forgot the speed drop from 2.4 to 1.8 GHz.
:stick:
03-18-2005, 11:10 AM
ozzimark

oh, my bad, i though he was trying to say something else.

though it definitly looks like the MT will be more speed binned and ML will be more thermally binned.
03-22-2005, 12:46 PM
trans am

Has anyone seen a turion for sale yet?
03-22-2005, 01:26 PM
isp

I haven't, anyone know ETA?
03-22-2005, 02:23 PM
ozzimark

april 15th iirc.
03-23-2005, 02:03 AM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo|Minion

ill let you know how the neo works with teh chip by early next week at the latest m8 :) take care

Any news?
03-23-2005, 11:52 AM
ozzimark

agreed. i'm dying to know how these turions are working out :banana:
03-24-2005, 12:55 AM
krille

Ummm... how come this thread has reached the news just now? I mean, it's rather old news, this thread has been around for quite some while?
03-24-2005, 02:20 AM
trans am

I called Monarch Computer and asked about the Turions and he wasn't sure what I was talking about. they have been getting tons of calls about the Venice. I told them thry should order some. Since Monarch is a system builder, they should have no problems getting them he said. So hopefully by mid april they will have some Turries! Now that we are on the subject of 90 nm 754, has anyone here played with a Palermo Sempron? I was thinking of getting a cheap one for $80 just to mess around with.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...pron-2600.html
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...104-226&depa=1
03-24-2005, 02:26 AM
matt9669

Quote:

Originally Posted by krille

Ummm... how come this thread has reached the news just now? I mean, it's rather old news, this thread has been around for quite some while?

A glitch, goof, error, mixup, mistake. Speak of it again and I shall be forced to :slapass: :lol:
03-24-2005, 04:26 AM
krille

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt9669

A glitch, goof, error, mixup, mistake. Speak of it again and I shall be forced to :slapass: :lol:

Sorry, Sir! Won't do no more, Sir! Thank you, Sir! :eek:
03-24-2005, 07:38 AM
[XC] leviathan18

i want to see acer ferrari with turion 64 :O
03-25-2005, 04:46 PM
_Eduard_

so basicly these turions are san diego s754 chips with single channel?
03-25-2005, 06:51 PM
ozzimark

yes, but some of them have 512kb of cache instead of 1mb
03-25-2005, 07:48 PM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Eduard_

so basicly these turions are san diego s754 chips with single channel?

amd told me theres a difference, there are different transistors you can chose when building a cpu, some consume more power and switch faster, some consume less power and switch slower, just an easy example.

amd told me that the turion uses a different set of transistors than the regular a64s in 90nm and uses around 30% less power in some situations than a desktop a64 with the same vcore and clockspeed.

i dont know if this i true though, or if its just marketing :D
after all having a different mask for the turion cpus ould mean a lot of extra work...
03-28-2005, 03:17 PM
saaya

since turion is now released and there are/will be reviews of turion cpus already/shortly i unstuck this thread to make some more room for new stickies in this section :D
03-28-2005, 03:21 PM
cadaveca

have you seen any for sale? i'll try one out! (gotta stop buying cpu's, and get some other parts..3 cpu's extra is too many already)
03-30-2005, 04:41 PM
tristancarton

saaya, any chance you could throw us a link to where they are available/released? i can't find them anywhere (presale or not), I thought that they weren't going to be released until mid april? (perhaps a difference on semantics?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

...since turion is now released and there are/will be reviews of turion cpus already/shortly...
03-30-2005, 07:50 PM
Revv23

april 4th i belive is the correct date.
03-30-2005, 11:13 PM
Raul

is there little, little chance to AMD release Turion on s939 ? NO ? :(
03-30-2005, 11:47 PM
HKPolice

Does anyone have OC results yet (More than 2Ghz)? The latest article from anandtech:

Much as we suspected, all of the power optimizations that went "into" Turion 64 are all transistor level optimizations. Basically selecting transistors that provide better thermal and power characteristics at the expense of lower switching frequencies. Given that the Turion 64 runs at multiple speed grades lower than the fastest desktop Athlon 64s, this tradeoff makes sense, but it also means that Turion 64 is no Pentium M killer.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sho...spx?i=2387&p=4

It might hit a 'wall' when going above ~2.5ghz or something...
03-30-2005, 11:56 PM
ozzimark

yeah, it appears that way :stick:
oh well. we can always hope. if not.. there's still newark :banana:
03-31-2005, 04:12 AM
robberbaron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raul

is there little, little chance to AMD release Turion on s939 ? NO ? :(

No, the successor to the Turion will go on a socket similar or the same as M2.
03-31-2005, 05:21 AM
Raul

pitty, but Stay Tuned :D Venice is arrive soon :D
03-31-2005, 05:31 AM
_Eduard_

too bad. I was hoping for the new "athlon XP mobile" under the A64's
03-31-2005, 09:09 PM
Rabbi_NZ

a bit premature aren't we?

I'm going to reserve judgement until there are some actual user results coming through...
04-06-2005, 01:45 AM
majkel84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ

a bit premature aren't we?

I'm going to reserve judgement until there are some actual user results coming through...

has anybody already got Turion?
They aren't avalible anywhere, are they ??
04-11-2005, 03:43 AM
perkam

Turions sure have funny steppings :D lol "Cabse, wait for me !!!" lol

Though this is a *P*W so it should be one of the ones that oc well.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba...mage/nt644.jpg

In any case they're coming and should be bringing updated chipsets to the 754.

Perkam
04-11-2005, 04:04 AM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Though this is a *P*W so it should be one of the ones that oc well.

Dunno, but I thought *P*W was the most common on A64. AFAIK, that code only tells you when it's manufactured,
and "CABSE" being the part of the OPN that's really interesting, just like CBBHD, AQYHA and JIUHB was.
04-11-2005, 09:09 AM
ozzimark

iirc, all amd proc's are xPxW :toast:
04-11-2005, 09:34 AM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzimark

iirc, all amd proc's are xPxW :toast:

Yeah, me too. Maybe there are some typos in the OC database....

Not every CPU got a four letter code:

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Detective

In the MPM the first M means that the assembly lots have been combined and not made on one specific day thats all. The second M means that the fabrication cores came from different batches too. The lack of a W at the end means that wafer lots used in the process could be mixed. Nothing to do with "speed re-binning". The P is for the assembly plant of Penang.
The CBBHD or CBBID fabrication stepping is way more important.
04-11-2005, 12:39 PM
ingentingmendeg

Quote:

Originally Posted by sxs112

http://img221.exs.cx/img221/1130/dscn02150jx.jpg
AMD Turion 64 2800+ - 1.6 GHz - 1M L2 - Core 90nm Rev 'E' - TDP 25W Socket754

http://img169.exs.cx/img169/3698/16002oh.jpg
1600Mhz

http://img169.exs.cx/img169/5719/25003cx.jpg
2000Mhz

Tnanks Taiwan 阿格斯 Test

Source

hmm, looks similar to the Dothan

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