so why would they be 200mhz slower but for the same price?Quote:
Originally Posted by terrace215
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so why would they be 200mhz slower but for the same price?Quote:
Originally Posted by terrace215
I would say that's correct and I would be willing to bet the 4200+ replaces the FX-55 like the 4000+ replaced the FX-53 even though you can find them all in stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
the 754 3700+ is only 470-500$ here. i would gladly pay that much for a san diego.
Like I said the "BN" 3500+ is just the same as the "AS" 3500+ insomuch they are cache crippled. The frequency is higher by 200MHz than a san diego or clawhammer would be for the same rating to compensate for the half cache. (e.g 3500+ BN is 2.2GHz with 512KB L2 cache, not 2GHz with 1MB L2 cache and 3700+ is 2.2GHz with 1MB L2 cache)
So this officially only has 512k of L2?
http://akiba.ascii24.com/akiba/news/...ages770990.jpg
omg you guys are right!
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/
they updated amd's roadmap to reflect 512k cache! Thought so and amd is smart for saving the Diegos with bad cache and remarking all those as 3500+ rather than throwing em away and losing $$$$$$$$$
Ugh, gross, that's my 16 year old cousin's name - and yes, she's hot, but damn that's nasty, I'd rather have the hitman . . . :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
:off: :slap:
Dude why do you think it was changed - it was because we told him that! doh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
They had incorrect info for several days till it got changed, our words finally went thru! Im still curious on the price of a 3700+ diego and a 3000+ venice
yes the 4BN makes that pretty clear 4 = 512KB L2 cacheQuote:
Originally Posted by Gogeta
Not several days - less than a day actually as he only included the new san diegos yesterday after I alerted him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
3000+ = $157, 3700+ = $350 already on pre order
http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A80G481
I think this is a good move on AMDs part. There are a lot of current Winchester users that have descent overclocks already, and don't see much point in upgrading to Venice. However, 1mb and increased overclockability for a reasonable price is much more appealing.
update:
These will be out this month.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ S939 90nm Venice (BP) @1.8 Ghz 512k yes
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ S939 90nm Venice (BP) @2.0 Ghz 512k yes
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ S939 90nm Venice (BP) @2.2 Ghz 512k yes
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ S939 90nm Venice (BN) @2.2 Ghz 512k yes
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ S939 90nm Venice (BP) @2.4 Ghz 512k yes
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ S939 90nm San Diego (BN) @2.2 Ghz 1M yes
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ S939 90nm San Diego (BN) @2.4 Ghz 1M yes
AMD Athlon 64 FX55 S939 90nm San Diego (BN) @2.6 Ghz 1M yes
AMD Athlon 64 4200+ S939 90nm San Diego (BN) @2.6 Ghz 1M Comes in July
AMD Athlon 64 FX57 S939 90nm San Diego (BN) @2.8 Ghz 1M Comes in July
Correct me if i'm wrong about the 3500+ thing!
www.compressorcooling.com
check it!!! in a few minutes the review is online ;)
Ferry82, considering they did the same thing to the previous revision 3500+ making them castrated Clawhammers, I wouldn't be surprised if AMD did the same thing again.
Still pushing the F5 button :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by LoKi2k
i really wish people would quit following this stupid hand made "roadmap" its wrong and always has bin wrong it is just a bunch of speculation mix with alot of i duno i mean look at it FX-57 coming out in Q3 and then the FX-59 coming out in Q4 cmon now thats a load of crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
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Originally Posted by Ferry82
sorry, but i dont know, what o8ur damn admin is doing... i am also pushing the f5 button :(
Any news on your San Diego review Loki2k? I am not seeing it at your site...
I have seen several people say 12x multi so I am posting this thread to clear up some confusion. It is important to get facts right. Am I right in saying the 3700+ has only up to 11x?
Socket 939 3700+ = 2.2GHz, 1MB L2 cache, dual-channel support.
So yes.
from what i understand the 3700+ diego is 2.2ghz, so that means its an 11x multi in my book, i think there getting confused with the non 1mb version which is 2.4ghz hence 12 multi
edit: little slow there ;)
11 multi for sure only the 4000+ & 3800+ will have 12 multi
Well i just ordered my FX55 BN retail box at sparco. HEHE
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
Google badly translated version of San Diego 3700+ German review!
2.722@1.4V stable
2.887@1.55V stable
using phase-change
Is it just me or do those numbers seem a bit low compared with the OC's that have been released on the Venice core? Wasn't Venice hitting over 2.72 @1.4v stable on AIR?
However if they just hooked it up to Phase to start with maybe those numbers are achievable regardless the temps?
Also looks like they topped out at 3.1ghz on phase...wasn't Venice hitting past that on phase? Or is this just showing a difference in the benches that were run? Don't remember how high the Venice went stable while Priming...
These results seem to be very preliminary, plus I don't know what got lost in the Google translation, but it seems that San Diego may not be quite as good a sheer clocker as Venice. Maybe, since these numbers are so very preliminary.
However the 1MB L2 cache really will make up for a lot of clocking deficiencies. For an aircooler person like myself will like San Diego more, since insane clocks are impossible with aircooling anyways. I'd rather have 3700+ with ~2.8ghz than 3500+ with 3ghz because the 2.8ghz will be cooler for me. But I'm using Zalman CNPS-7000Cu which is probably laughable to most of you guys...
Depends on which Venice you're talkin about. My 3800+ easily ran Spi16m on the stock hsf at 2.8Ghz @ 1.4vcore. I only attempted Prime95 blend @ 3.2G on single phase and it failed after an hour and a half. It did, however, run Spi1M @ 3.3G. Of course Pc-Ice was able to take this cpu to another level in his cascade - I don't recall if he ran p95, but he was able to bench it @ 3.6+Ghz. Then there's my 3500+ Venice, which I never tested, but sent to PC-Ice to write his review. I don't think there was any stability testing done on that cpu, but it could do 3.1G @ 1.4Vcore on single phase. You'll find all the info here:Quote:
Originally Posted by saiamne
My screenies from the 3800+ Venice
Pc-Ice's results with the same 3800+
PC-Ice's results with the 3500+ Venice
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel
Random variation, probably. San Diego and Venice have the exact same core, and exact same processing, so unless the problem arises from a critical path related to a larger L2 cache, they should have virtually identical o/c potential, overall. Of course, part to part, it will vary, as always.
Yeah...been following all the OC's on the venices...I just couldn't remember off the top of my head which benches ran stable at what speeds, probably has comparable OC potential to this CPU...just a little twitchy I guess since I've got the 3700+ ordered...been putting off this system build for a couple months since these weren't too far out and the CBBIDs were pissing everyone off...I've considered just buying a current 4000+ more than once to just be done with it, get built, and stop trying to play games on my damn XP 2000+Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Researched every part to death and have everything picked out, just need this damn chip to ship...just want to be reassured I'll be able to hit my target envelope of 260ish x 11 w/ PC4000 VX and a SLI-DR on this CPU
I have an entire computer sitting here except for a CPU. The EXACT INSTANT my 3700+ shows up at my door I'm going to rip it out of the box, cram it onto the mobo, strap the Zalman CNPS-7000Cu, and cram the mobo into the case. Seriously. The mobo already has the RAM installed, and the case already has the drives and fans installed. URGH! I NEED CHIP NOW!!!!!! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by saiamne
you missed the AS5 LOL.... just kidding... i think a lot of ppl is like youQuote:
I have an entire computer sitting here except for a CPU. The EXACT INSTANT my 3700+ shows up at my door I'm going to rip it out of the box, cram it onto the mobo, strap the Zalman CNPS-7000Cu, and cram the mobo into the case. Seriously. The mobo already has the RAM installed, and the case already has the drives and fans installed. URGH! I NEED CHIP NOW!!!!!!
FYI... peeps need to quit trying to use AMD's model numbers as an indicator of the actual multi and default core speed, especially with the new Venice and San Diego cores ;)
Just look at the previous core "models" and actual speeds/cache size:
http://img8.echo.cx/img8/7503/cpumodels0xk.png
You'll notice there are four different CPU's that have a 2.4GHz core speed, a 4000+ w/1MB, a 3800+ w/512KB, a 3700+ w/1MB, and a 3400+ w/512KB. There's a pattern there... 939s have higher ratings than 754s, 1MB cache have higher than 512KB cache, even though all 4 have the same core speeds.
there's another one.
3700+ newark. same specs as the s754 3700+, but with a revE core.. and it's a mobile. :stick:
as you can see, our review is online. the second part will be online in a few days.
and there are some more news. next week we´ll get a venice and make a review, too. btw, our ocz pc4800 arrived. this review will be available next week, too.
btw. the fx is ordered ;)
if here are germans... we´re searching people who can translate our reviews in english. when u are interested, please pm me or go in our forum :D
Saw that, thanks for putting it up!
Seem like it scales about the same as the Venice CPUs we've already seen?
that was on air? seems low for mach2
How many chips based on San-Diego there are?
FX57, 3700+, 4000+, and 4200+? What about 3500+ and others?
Someone around here said that the 4000+ is the highest speed-binned version, but there a sticky with a preview of the 4200+... So I guess that the 4200+ is the highest.
Someone was wrong ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
Right now there is only 3700+, 4000+, FX-55
4200+ / FX-57 are future chips
Let me get this straight.
3700+, 4000+, 4200+ and FX57 are the only CPU's which are based on the 90nm San-Diego core? Because AFAIK lately it was revealed that there will be no SD/90nm FX55.
FX-55 will be a SD/90nmQuote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
you can order a San Diego/90nm FX-55 right now
can't really count the 4200+ and FX-57 since they won't be out until (projected) 3rd quarter of this year...4200+ will be similar to the current 4000+ in that it will be a multi locked chip based on the previous FX iteration (4000+ is a multi locked FX-53) so in the case of the 4200+ it will be a multi locked FX-55 when the FX-57's come out since there will only ever be one "FX" chip in production at any given time
I don't follow all the threads here (not enough time in a day) but as far as I know there's only one person still denying the existance of a 90nm FX-55...
This shows adafx55BNbox and adafx55daa5BN (oem), ETA 4/18...BN is San Diego...you can also order adafx55asbox off the same site which is a ClawHammer FX-55
Cool, thanks for the explanation.
Think i'll get the 3700+ SD.
Todays the 15th all over the world!!
Lets see from today the ETA to "shipping" chips.
I dont think we should be jumping to conclusions that Diego is a worse clocker than Venice. One thing is the top Venice for now is only 2.4GHz while the top Diego is 2.6GHz with 2.8GHz fx57 comming. 1mb cache may run a little hotter, just try using better than stock cooling ;)
i totally agree with you buddy. cheers for you :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnbns
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Originally Posted by saiamne
Ingram Micro an AMD major distributor has adafx55BNbox arriving the 18th apr
Anyone who denies its existence is plain stupid
I'll make it easier for you guys and did the online translation of that 3700 Sandy review, the wording is not dead on accurate but you should get the idea what they were trying to say :D :D
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We are happy to be able to present you the Overclockingbericht first worldwide of a new AMD Athlon 64 with San Diego kernel.
PART 1: since a couple of days, it gives complete computer of the firm Fujitsu Siemens that are equipped with the new AMD Athlon 64 processors with San Diego kernel. Presently this processor not yet is listed however and in no Hardwareshop available. Excluding OEM complete computer manufacturers, this new Highlight of AMD is withheld currently.
In the next days, 64 sockets 939 are introduced two new CPU generations of the AMD Athlon, the San Diego and the Venice. Both processors differ only and alone in the L2 cache. The Venice possesses comes 512 KB L2 caches, that San Diego with double quantities therefore, therefore 1024KB L2 cache. Both new processor generations offer the SSE well known by Intel 3 supports. In how far the SSE 3 noticeably makes itself, will see one in the later Benchmarks in the second part of the Reviews. The Venice and the SanDiego are made both in that 0.09µ procedure and have a standing type-V-Core of 1.4 volts.
The manufacture week of our processor reads 10 weeks 2005. that 3700 + San Diego offers a tact of 11x200MHz = 2200MHz and 1024KB L2 cache, the reason architecture corpulent in comparison with the prior sockets 939 processors identically.
* AMD Athlon 64 * ADA3700DAA5BN * CABHE 0510FPAW * 1225008C50445
The values on the CPUS must yet confessed occur are some of us, exact the same values, how in the at that time Flagschiff the FX 51. To Be Sure necessary of the FX 51 yet 1.55 volts and was produced in that 0.13µ procedure. First once couple Screenshots of CPU-Z.
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We dedicate now enough with the Vorgeplänkel the actual thing, the ascertainment of the maximal tact of the CPUS thanks to E. C. T to ourselves. 2 GT make.
Test system:
* Mainboard DFI-SLI D Biosversion 310P * ram 2 xs 512MB Gskill PC4800 GDR LA Dualpack * graphic card 2 xs Geforce 6800
Ultra Point of View * 80 gig SOWED/ DVD LW/ Floppy * make 2 GT, graphic cards cooled with Innovatek and looked Ice Radi/
Eheimpumpe * and naturally my new San Diego 3700).
The most important ahead: the tested San Diego has „no Sub-Zero-Bug.“ that is, that starting and the business with minus degrees has to 100% problem-free with the components named above and the 310 P Bios functioned.
Whether that in all new processors now just as simply functioned one will be able to see not until the future. This fact agreed me naturally equally very positively into the OC. In the Bios, the optimal Settings were loaded, that set ram attitudes and set the LDT/FSB Ratio to 3. All other attitudes were left on car and/or standard. First I determined then the maximal tact with 1,4V Vcore and 11er Multi with Clockgen.
On the basis of that, 2 GT cool units make was able to reach I now following stable results. 1.4 volts Vcore, real tact 2720 MHz Primestabel. This was nevertheless already an increase of 520MHz. After the AMD Rating for San Diego processors, that would come a 4500 + processor immediately. In the 1 M SuperPI test I could good 31,093s with 2722MHz reached.
I am the expanse already good 120MHz faster, than the previous top product of AMD, the FX55. at the pictures see we that according to CPUZ 1.36 volts was selected. After that I raised the V-Core in the Bios directly to 1.55 volts, what yielded selected 1,504 V according to CPUZ. 11 xs 263MHZ = 2897MHz were therefore possible. SuperPI 1M 29,219s.
Now I come also unfortunately already to the maximal tact of the processor: Primestabel were reached 274MHz once 11 = 3014 MHz in 1,712 volts. To adjust a higher V-Core no improvement of the maximal tact brought more. Unfortunately there is this point in each CPUS. The result really can see let itself. Because I had last week another new FX 55 to the test here, which well 750 - 800 costs€ and got out in 3150MHz Primestabel, the San Diego makes here with a price of 350€ a figure outstanding. SuperPI 32M yielded 25 minutes and 12.9 seconds. The SuperPI 1M could be tested even yet with 3105MHz, what yielded a best value of 27,297s. The timings were set in all carried out Benchmarks to CL 2,5/3/3/5 and the remainder on car. With something Feintuning and a couple of BH very good 5 would have to be possible around the 26,5s in the 1M and 24,30M in the 32 M.
Aquamark 01,03 and 05 was tested without OC of the graphic cards. In the driver, all was set to achievement.
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Result: all in everything is that 3700 + San Diego a very good CPU with very good Overclockingeigenschaften. 3000MHz Primestabel corresponds a 5000 + after AMD Rating. The coming Athlon FX 57 will be with 2800MHz getaktet, I was able to surpass this, in this first little test, around 200MHz. Further statements strong Benchmarks are published in the next days.
Anzumerken remains yet that the CPUS very stably ran together with the Gskill-ram, my test system. The San Diego reacts the expanse very well to V-Core-increase how one is accustomed that also in the FX 55. In the part 2 of the Reviews, I will represent a comparison of that 3500 + Winchester FX 55 and San Diego 3700 + in absolutely identical clock speeds. Therein are contain all well known 3D Benchmarks, a couple confessed Spielebenchmarks, different SuperPI´s and CPU Benchmarks. Reasons temporal end, came now the most important, the presentation and the Übertaktbarkeit of the processor, first. The remainder follows in the next days.
On parts 2 now already can please your you.
I hope had you a little joke at the reading of this little beforehand Reviews. (end of review)
To sum it up, I think what the reviewer trying to say is
"Clock for clock the 3700 Sandy is going to wipe the floor of the Winchester and Venice with the 1MB L2 cache, on top of that these sexy beasts runs cooler than the good ol' FX-53 and 55 due to the 0.09 die and 1.4v so higher clock is obtainable and 3.0Ghz air-cooled is not a dream anymore. Imagine prime95 and superpi 32M stable at around 3.0Ghz. The 3700 Sandy is looking mighty good and it will be the hot ticket of this year, they will be selling like hot cakes soon, and mark my words...expect the price jump in a month or two, I'll provide more details and screen-shots in the next few days so stay tune!!"
:D :D :D
I spoke with another sales rep at Sparco today just to make sure that they'd canceled my Venice and have the 3700 Sandy on pre-ordered instead, the rep is very pleasant to deal with, he told me they WILL have the 3700 San Diego on Monday 4/18/05, as of now at 1:08pm EST they still have them available for pre-order...didn't ask how many left but he said they only going to have 60 units of the 3700 Sandy. I'm not going to wait forever so I had them ship me via 2-days, was told that I should receive it on next Wednesday or Thursday....rock on baby!!
:rocker:
gawd, i hate when people give cpu core nicknames.......so F***ing annoying. for EX:, sempy, sandy, winnie, preshot. so annoying. STOP!!!!! they have there names for a reason! dont change it! because it sounds really bad.
/Hype - Come on & get it - still some left!!, join the party!!, the water's fine!!! :party: /end hype
Yeah so far they have less orders than projected stock. Guessing that will change after us guinea pigs try em : :comp10: :brick: :wasntme:
Wish us all luck :toast:
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Originally Posted by ingentingmendeg
Attention Moderator: please remove junk like this that has no place in post such as this one, last thing we need is more hate crimes and foul languages in this forum, obviously someone need to be put on anger-management or take a chill pil! :slapass:
going for a 55 .09. :)
I edited the language in his post prior to you posting, ben805. Although we do our very best to censor language that we deem to be offending, I can not censor his opinion as it has not violated any of our forum policies.
Let's keep this on topic from this point forward, gentlemen. :)
well ben, just dont give it dumb names like sandy. it sounds really really stupid. why cant you just say san diego.
People will always have nicknames for everything:
Chevrolet = Chevy
Lexus = Lex
Celeron = Celery
Technic 1200 turntables = 12s, ones-and-twos
20" wheels = Dubs
That will be all with regard to this nickname issue. No need for any more comments with regard to this matter.
:bananal:
:p: one of my friend's name is Sandy :D LOLQuote:
The official nickname for the San Diego core is not Sanni. It's Sandy.
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/Athlon64.gif
according to this roadmap, there will be 3500+ Sandies with 512KB L2 cache??? :confused:
What part of my post wasn't clear?
THAT'S ENOUGH! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
Anyway, I'm already thinking about stripping the IHS off of the 3700 Sandy and run it naked on air, my winny's load temperature @2.7Ghz dropped from 52'C to around 43'C without the IHS :D :D
Is there any other way? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
:confused: :confused: :confused: Within only half a year AMD will release FX-57, FX-59 and FX-61 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Napoleonic
Seems very strange to me at all........... :stick:
:toast:
The roadmap above is not an any way affiliated with AMD. It has been known to be erroneous and full of speculation, which many users have pointed out already.
This thread does not have a 56K warning, I would appreciate it if you would use a smaller version of the picture or simply link to the unofficial roadmap.
So guys this is the retail boxed 3700 San Diego then?
http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A80G681
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Originally Posted by chunkylover77
nope, THIS is the one you want. The rep told me they will only have 60 of them, once they ran out...you'll have to wait till 5/13/05, I'm glad I'm 1 of the 60 :D :D :D
ADA3700DAA5BN is the OEM and ADA3700BNBOX is the Retail, for whatever reason they always sell the OEM a couple bucks more than the Retail as well.
Mark my words, you'll see some price increase on these 3700 SD by the end of next month! :cool:
The AA5 part gives you info about CPU max temprature rating, the default voltage and amount of L2 cache.
The number represents the size of the cache:
1 = 64KB
2 = 128KB
3 = 256KB
4 = 512KB
5 = 1024KB (1MB)
the last two letters like BP, BN, etc. represent the actual physical core that the chip sports.
AP = s754 C0 130nm Clawhammer
AR = s754 CG 130nm Clawhammer
AS = s939 CG 130nm Clawhammer
AX = s754 CG 130nm NewCastle
AW = s939 CG 130nm NewCastle
BI = s939 D0 90nm Winchester
AX = s754 CG 130nm Sempron (Based on NewCastle)
BA = s754 D0 90nm Sempron (Based on Winchester, s754 is why its not BI)
BO = s754 E? 90nm Sempron (Probably will be based on Venice, s754 is why its not BP)
BP = s939 E3 90nm Venice
BN = s939 E4 90nm San Diego
Guys I need to confirm something for sure. What is the L2 cache for San diego 3500+ - is it 1mb or 512kb ?
Thanks a lot. :toast:
base on the code ADA3500DAA4BN of the 3500 Sandy, it indicated 512K L2. But nobody know for sure, unless the spec came straight from AMD otherwise it's nothing but speculation. Personally, I don't feel like gambling my money especially when I don't know what the hell I'm getting, I rather pay the extra 50 bucks for a guaranteed 1MB L2 :D
Wow. In that case, I dont think 3500+ SD with 512kb cache will be any better than a Venice 3500+ 512kb cache... :confused:
Just ordered. I paid by paypal but it did not ask for the money yet. Did anyone else pay with paypal?
We'll be on the same batch and steppings, for better or worst.....hehehehe! :rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
let's hope for the best :banana:
All for one and one for XS! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Yep, I bit the bullet and ordered a 3200+ Venice to play with, got tired of waiting for the FX-57 - hope this thing turns out to be a decent overclocker so I can sell it when the time comes :D
I'm noticing a sudden and distinct increase in interest in the 3700+ San Diego...I'm glad I ordered mine on Wednesday when they first showed up for preorder...
I called Sparco today and they said they should be getting them in 4/18, if not then definitely 4/19, and she basically said that their max turnaround was about 48 hours. So, if everything works out, I'll be :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed, locked, and ready to rock sometime next Wednesday or Thursday!! :woot:
nope, via credit card, they won't charge you till the product is ready to ship, that's the way I like it and easier to cancel your order if you change your mind as well. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkylover77
Ordering this late I hope I got in on the first batch. I dont want to be stuck with this Venice too much longer. :D
You should call Sparco up and ask the nice customer service people if you're in on the initial batch of 60. They're very nice people, really. :)
not necessary, read all the previous post, the 3500 Sandy suppose to be crippled just like the clawhammer, and base on theories they are suppose to be the 3700 or 4000 failure with defective cache or whatever, and capped down to 3500. At any rate, the core is still is San Diego, which I think should clock about the same as any other San Diego and Venice.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboDiv
How low will the San-Diego go PR+ wise? 3500+ is the lowest?
If so, it seems that Venice is still the No.1 budget OCer's chip.
Just called Sparco... the guy said AMD retracted the ETA for those 3700s.
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Originally Posted by Hombre
Agreed, the 3200 Venice is a damn nice budget overclocker and that's what I ordered initially.
nah...I doubt it, those CPU are ON THE WAY to their CA warehouse and 4/18/05 is the date they'll receive and ship them out, they did not get their stocks straight from AMD anyway. But if you have doubts you can always check the live availability of the 3700 Sandy HereQuote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
I spoke with Sparco this afternoon as well and they assured me that my order for the 3700+ San Diego was good to go, should be in monday the 18th, turn around, 2 day shipping should put it in my hands late next week, or the following week at the latest
Not sure what time quicksilver talked to them, or if the sparco rep was quoting him availability for the NEXT shipment...but I'm holding out hope that Sparco isn't lying to those of us who got orders out of their first shipment...
Besides...the next best availability is Monarch showing the end of May? Even if these are delayed, it honestly can't be much worse than what Monarch is offering...
I called Sparco few hours after he made that comment and the Rep told me no such thing, he'd dismissed the comment of AMD retracting the ETA for those 3700 and said even if the shipping truck got delay for whatever reason it would of been only 1 day but no more than 2 days. and NO, Sparco did not get their shipment directly from AMD so AMD has no place in retracting anything unless they made a major recall. not sure where quicksilver got his infos from...Quote:
Originally Posted by saiamne
EDIT: stop provoking other members
-saaya
I'm thinking Ingram Micro is their distributor for almost everthing they carry. Anyone here in the forums who has a resale license cam start an account with IM and give us a better ETA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
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Originally Posted by chunkylover77
the sonner you ebay it the more $ you can get from it. funny you say this, everyone wants a venice :p:
LOLLOLQuote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
No my chip will go to someone at XS for no more than I paid for it. I am not looking to make a buck off of it. I am just thankful that Steven was nice enough to sell it to me at a very good price.
I caved and ordered the 3700+ from Sparco. If they change the ETA I'm retracting with a quickness. /fingerscrossed
The way I see it, even if their ETA slips, it can't be worse that what Monarch and NCIX are offering...I'll keep my order with Sparco until I get some assurances that somebody else can get it to me sooner. So far in all my dealing with Sparco their Customer Service team has been really good, that counts for something in my book. But yeah.../pray.../fingerscrossed.../etc
Ordered the rest of my system last night, so hopefully everything can be here late next week and I can spend all weekend getting it up and going
It would be annoying if Monarch surprise shipped it to me on Monday, and so did Sparco...then I would have 2 3700+ San Diegos, and my motherboard can only fit 1...
Sometimes people get told different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
Dont get on Quick's back about it. Its what he was told and you guys have been told differnetly.
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel
I don't know what kind of payment you guys made but if you use your credit card or paypal you can check to see if any charge being made, Sparco will not charge you till your stuff is ready to be ship so you should have enough time to cancel if Monarch happened to ship it first.
that's funny, many people (including my colleagues at work) have been told they'll get their stuff on time and no later than 2 days delay, but so far Quick is the only one being told differently....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
EDIT: stop provoking other members
-saaya
Yeah...myself and a couple other people ordered through Sparco and their CSR's have never waivered on the info they've given out...not saying I've got this guy's phone tapped and someone didn't tell him that...I would just tend to lean towards the rep quoting him availability on their next shipment...I've talked to at least 3 different people over there and none sounded like they had even the slightest doubt that it was comming in 4/18...so they're either being reassured that it will be there 4/18 or they're all really really good liars! While it's entirely possible that we're all being set-up for disappointment here, I'm going to go with it for now...not like they've already got my money and I'm going to see one at Circut City next week and kick myself for preordering.
I see on monarch they have preorders for 3700 e steppings a boxed and an oem I am assuming. The boxed one says system bus is 2000 and the oem is 1600 is this a misprint? also they both run at 2400mghz so whats the diff between them and a 4000+? since they are both listed as 939s?
3700 is 2.2ghz (11x multi)
4000 is 2.4ghz (12x multi)
bus is same
Monarch has alot of typos on their listings
3700+ is 2.2ghz, 11x multiplier
4000+ is 2.4ghz, 12x multiplier
ada3700bnbox is the PIB, ada3700daa5bn is OEM...nothing is different about the two chips other than one comes with a HSF and a 3yr warranty...both have a 2000mhz bus...when they entered the info for the new San Diego core 3700+ chips, they were lazy and copied alot of spec info off the older s754 mobile 3700+
Which San Diego is everyone planning to order?
Looks like the 3700+ is the one everyone seems to like?
for the price diff Im gonna get the 3700 then. I cant see that much ocing diff happening between the two. I would be willing to bet the 3700 will oc as high or very close to a 4000, dont you think?