DFI NF4 Ultra/SLi-D BUGS and Fixes Thread

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02-07-2005, 01:17 AM
Wingz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

A thing to test for all who are using any kind of high-voltage loving memory (BH-5, BH-6, maybe also CH-5, Twinmos UTT, OCZ VX et al) - well, except maybe for the very big guys (OPP, OPB), as for them it's running fine anyway :D

I'd like to know how your memory behaves in memtest test #5 IF using 3.5 Vdimm or more (which, of course, is derived from the 5v rail).

What I have observed with my BH-5 kit and OCZ VX as well, as soon as I up the Vdimm to 3.5v or more in bios, and loop memtest test #5 for a few loops (10 is enough, you can see it then), memory starts showing memtest errors EXACTLY AT THE SAME MEMORY ADDRESS all the time. Usually if memory is not memtest stable, it usually throws out errors at various addresses (maybe in the same range but almost never in the same address, as one chip on the memory is failing, and it is usually the size of 64 Mb now). Moreover, this happens also (my VX is memtest stable up to 262 htt 1:1) on lower speeds, say, 255 htt. The only variable here which seems to impact these errors, is the Vdimm. As soon as I lower it, the errors disappear.

Thanks.

i have the same issue but with my Msi NF3 board anything over 3.4v i get errors at the same place on every pass and even lowering to 240HTT will still get the errors.

http://www.hvweb.co.uk/wingz/memtest%2Ejpg
02-07-2005, 01:44 AM
cupra

i think that i find new issue in my sli-dr
when first boot set to floopy the post jest stuck when the boot is starting to run, and the os dont boot.
when the the floopy is disabled the os start fine.
02-07-2005, 01:54 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingz

i have the same issue but with my Msi NF3 board anything over 3.4v i get errors at the same place on every pass and even lowering to 240HTT will still get the errors.

Hmm, could those perhaps be memtest errors itself? Anybody else experiencing this?
02-07-2005, 01:58 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupra

i think that i find new issue in my sli-dr
when first boot set to floopy the post jest stuck when the boot is starting to run, and the os dont boot.
when the the floopy is disabled the os start fine.

No problem here, boot order is as follows: floppy, cd-rom, hdd. Are you sure you have set it everything right? These boards have the most tricky boot order sequence algorithm I've ever seen.
02-07-2005, 02:09 AM
Orker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orker

No more problem with ram .. It appears it doesnt like the yellow dimms

after 2 formats this is still happening

anyone???
02-07-2005, 02:23 AM
cupra

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

No problem here, boot order is as follows: floppy, cd-rom, hdd. Are you sure you have set it everything right? These boards have the most tricky boot order sequence algorithm I've ever seen.

im sure , the boot order was :
first - removable - floopy
second - cd rom
third - hd

its jest stuck, but when the first (floopy) set to disabled - work fine :)
02-07-2005, 02:48 AM
Orker

For those that are interested i think i figured it out... the screen gets horribly distorted and shakes like a mofo when the refresh rate is at 75hz.. even though my monitor can handle that... hopefully this is something that nvidia will fix in their next drivers as 60hz runs fine
02-07-2005, 04:13 AM
Zac89

I've got a problem with 2*512 OCZ VX...

an hour ago they works fine @ 268 (memtest stable)
now they work until 262...

Why??? :confused:

I'm waiting for OPP screen... ;)
02-07-2005, 04:43 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

What I have observed with my BH-5 kit and OCZ VX as well, as soon as I up the Vdimm to 3.5v or more in bios, and loop memtest test #5 for a few loops (10 is enough, you can see it then), memory starts showing memtest errors EXACTLY AT THE SAME MEMORY ADDRESS all the time. Usually if memory is not memtest stable, it usually throws out errors at various addresses (maybe in the same range but almost never in the same address, as one chip on the memory is failing, and it is usually the size of 64 Mb now). Moreover, this happens also (my VX is memtest stable up to 262 htt 1:1) on lower speeds, say, 255 htt. The only variable here which seems to impact these errors, is the Vdimm. As soon as I lower it, the errors disappear.

strange, when i run my mushkins bh5 @ 3.4-3.5v i had same problems @ 260-265, always errors on same adress, even when lowering the voltage, checked the ram at friend of me, and looks like its not broken. i will re-check when i get it back today, i ll have a look on which adress it fails.

also have massive usb problems, machine sometimes hangs on bios boot screen with usb plugged in and very often windows doesent recognize usb devices. yesterday changed usb cable and all went fine (usb hhd read speed was 30mb/sec . today turned machine on and no usb devices, even after rebooting / on-off swichting. just gone. i have a look at this after work
:D
02-07-2005, 05:30 AM
Hombre

I'm gonna jump on the DFI bandwagon after I'll clear some details.

- Which SATA ports are locked in the SLI-DR model? (There are 8 ports, 4xSil and 4xNF4)
- Revisions R.A02 etc. indicates the BIOS date only (not anything that is hardware related) right? If so you can flash to a newer BIOS afterwards.

Thanks! :worship:
02-07-2005, 05:35 AM
ominae

yo, my SLI-DR setup is now running, but there are a few quirks...

When I initially put everything together and installed XP, everything worked great, no issues. However, as soon as I powered down and tried to power back up, I had no video signal, and I thought maybe it is hanging before the bios screen (I had no video, so I couldn't really tell).

So I tried everything, plugging in 4 pin molex, removing RAM, replacing RAM, etc, and then in one of the tries, I thought I'd just leave it, and then video miraculously came back when XP finishes loading. Now, I have seen the bios startup screen about 3 times, other than those times, I have no video when its POSTING - but as soon as XP finishes loading, video comes on... does anyone have any idea what the issue may be :/

Im thinking its a DFI bios issue - I tried flashing the XFX 6800GT with a newer bios, and still no go. I wanna tweak this beast, but I can't see the bios! :P Thanks in advance! :D

System Specs:
A64 3200+
DFI SLI-DR
1GB OCZ Plat EL R2
XFX 6800GT
580W Topower PSU
02-07-2005, 05:50 AM
Lidocaine

Pics of my XP-90 on the DFI Ultra-D so you guys can see for yourself and answer some of your own questions:

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...deshotofxp.JPG

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...4XPinplace.JPG

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...opshotofxp.JPG
02-07-2005, 07:04 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zac89

I've got a problem with 2*512 OCZ VX...

an hour ago they works fine @ 268 (memtest stable)
now they work until 262...

Why??? :confused:

I'm waiting for OPP screen... ;)

try lowering the vdimm -.1
02-07-2005, 07:20 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zac89

I've got a problem with 2*512 OCZ VX...

an hour ago they works fine @ 268 (memtest stable)
now they work until 262...

Why??? :confused:

I'm waiting for OPP screen... ;)

using 3.3v via psu rail or 5v jumper ? maybe psu rail fluctuations causing it ?
02-07-2005, 07:25 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

I have 2x512 tccd running at 2.87v at 300HTT 1-1 2.5-3-3-7-1T on a beta SLI version. Also bios 0201. I can't figure out why Blue's tccd aren't getting along there.

maybe board/bios is only part of the issue, maybe it's interaction with cpu ondie memory controller as well ? you using FX-55
02-07-2005, 07:41 AM
Zac89

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

using 3.3v via psu rail or 5v jumper ? maybe psu rail fluctuations causing it ?

I'm using the +5v rail.
The psu is a OCZ PS 520W.
It is very stable...

I tried to lower the voltage, but i 've the same errors...

this morning i was able to do 268@ 3.6... :confused:
02-07-2005, 08:16 AM
apu673

Can someone come out with a procedure and correct BIOS options for using this board with TCCD, since most of us are having this problem... Thanks!
02-07-2005, 08:40 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

also have massive usb problems, machine sometimes hangs on bios boot screen with usb plugged in and very often windows doesent recognize usb devices. yesterday changed usb cable and all went fine (usb hhd read speed was 30mb/sec . today turned machine on and no usb devices, even after rebooting / on-off swichting. just gone. i have a look at this after work
:D

This is also my biggest issue right now.
02-07-2005, 08:41 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

maybe board/bios is only part of the issue, maybe it's interaction with cpu ondie memory controller as well ? you using FX-55

yes.
02-07-2005, 08:42 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

Can someone come out with a procedure and correct BIOS options for using this board with TCCD, since most of us are having this problem... Thanks!

We need someone from DFI to chime in about now. Any reps in this forum?
02-07-2005, 08:48 AM
Blue078

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

We need someone from DFI to chime in about now. Any reps in this forum?

What reps ?? Does DFI have reps that come to this forum? Or any forum?

The Guys at DFI-Street are forum moderators only, from what I see.
02-07-2005, 09:02 AM
matt9669

Quote:

1. To everyone that owns a DFI Motherboard: I am a full time DFI employee, hired to do support for them in this forum. I am here for all of you, and will work hard to solve any problems that you bring to our attention.

ALSO NOTE: RGone is a fellow DFI Employee here to assist you (and me!)

This means you aren't just getting answers from someone that might or might not know the answer to your question/problem. It means that whatever I cannot answer myself, and no one else has the answer, I will forward your problem/question on to the engineers at DFI themselves.

DFI is, in my opinion, the best motherboard maker I have ever been involved with, and not just because of the products they make. They have the best support efforts in the industry, and work to make sure each customer is happy, which in turn virtually guarantees that we will all be more than willing to try new DFI products as they come out. You will all see the truth of this statement as time goes on!

Straight from here: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1541
02-07-2005, 09:03 AM
Lidocaine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue078

What reps ?? Does DFI have reps that come to this forum? Or any forum?

The Guys at DFI-Street are forum moderators only, from what I see.

With broke mobo themselves.... :ROTF:
02-07-2005, 09:06 AM
xgman

Hey Lidocaine, why don't you pass around some of yourself to help numb the pain? :p:
02-07-2005, 09:17 AM
Lidocaine

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Hey Lidocaine, why don't you pass around some of yourself to help numb the pain? :p:

hey xgman ;) ...........I had my "dose" this weekend. :D PSU failed but OCZ is working real hard to rectify this............props to Tony and crew! Fortunately for me, this board is doing great!..............*knocks on wood* :cool:

This board is super sweet, just gotta work some "bugs" out. Could it be anything less with Oskar driving the bus? :D I'd like to see Oskar pay a visit here to help some folks out too.
02-07-2005, 09:52 AM
jinu117

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Now many poeple posted they had the issue with TCCD caused by using not enough Vdimm, 2,6 or so. 2,8 works fine and someone posted that the DFI even will have a bit more Vdimm than other boards.

BTW I can not understand people set the Vdimm to AUTO or 2,6 and expect a fine running system, many RAM brands require especally in DC 2,8 and maybe Oced 2.9 or more so it's always a good idea to start with 2,9 - will not damage anything and when all is running fine You can try to lower it a little.

:toast:

Err... I believe most of people are used to TCCD running low voltage. In fact, 4 of my TCCD ran best @ 2.6v Higher or lower = less overclockability (and that was measured using DMM) Why would it be hard to understand for people who are used to 2.6v on TCCD for best 2.5-3-3-8 performance suddenly needing 3.1v? BTW, TCCD with 3.1v puts out awful lot of heat and would be something to be avoided if possible.
So, guess it isn't as rosy as it could be yet... Let's see how fast can DFI massage these problems. I know Asus wasn't too good with it as usual (till maybe their 1007 bios or so again I bet)
02-07-2005, 10:12 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinu117

Err... I believe most of people are used to TCCD running low voltage. In fact, 4 of my TCCD ran best @ 2.6v Higher or lower = less overclockability (and that was measured using DMM) Why would it be hard to understand for people who are used to 2.6v on TCCD for best 2.5-3-3-8 performance suddenly needing 3.1v? BTW, TCCD with 3.1v puts out awful lot of heat and would be something to be avoided if possible.
So, guess it isn't as rosy as it could be yet... Let's see how fast can DFI massage these problems. I know Asus wasn't too good with it as usual (till maybe their 1007 bios or so again I bet)

:D Hm - I didn't talk about 3,1 Vdimm, I agree that's to much but even on my NEO2 I have to set 2,9 Vdimm to get 2,5-3-3-5 stable at 12 x 280.

Sure - this is a hard overclock but my thought was that it maybe helps if higher voltage is required by DFI NF4.

I read it in many posts - poeple say they can't install Windows and when they increase the voltage it works fine.

Even at stock settings ( 13 x 200 with the FX-55 ) and VDimm in AUTO mode (2,7) there is no go for me, have to increase up to 2,8.

:toast:
02-07-2005, 10:18 AM
xgman

Is everyone with tccd problems using all the on-board extra power connectors or at least the one near the chipset, or not?
02-07-2005, 10:27 AM
btomasie

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian
02-07-2005, 10:50 AM
Blue078

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Is everyone with tccd problems using all the on-board extra power connectors or at least the one near the chipset, or not?

Yes... and it doesnt seem to help any.
02-07-2005, 11:08 AM
trans am

OCZ vx will not show as 2-2-2 on auto setting. you need to adjust it manually. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by btomasie

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian
02-07-2005, 11:13 AM
apu673

Well I just booted it up, and the strangest things are happening. First, it powers on, beeps once, and the DFI Logo is just stuck there on the screen, then after about 5 seconds the CPU fan turns off, and I have to turn off the computer. I've tried clearing the CMOS and disconnecting all my fans except the CPU fan. I'm using a stock HSF and pluggin the fan into the CPU fan header on the mobo.

EDIT: Just tried pluggin in CPU fan directly to PSU and now the fan stays on. But It still just sits there with the Logo showing, and all the fans are going pretty slow...
02-07-2005, 11:22 AM
btomasie

I've noticed a few people mentioning issues with booting up and the DFi logo just staying on the screen. I first had that too and eventually worked myself out of being "stuck". The lower-left corner of the board (once installed) has the 4 LED's. Mine stayed stuck with 2 lit, which I understood as it having an issue with the RAM. I originally had the RAM in slots 1 and 3 (the yellows). Once i swapped them out to 2 and 4, I got past the DFI logo and to the boot up sequence (and from there promptly went into the BIOS and shut the logo off!!) so that I could see all the settings from that point on.

Hope that helps someone.

Brian
02-07-2005, 11:25 AM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by btomasie

Hey OPP, any chance you'll have those screenshots today? Much appreciated.

As far as my update goes... thanks to those that sent the updated links... I had an older copy of the PDF manual on my desktop (from several weeks ago when someone posted it here during beta-testing).

After going to the 2/1 BIOS, my VX RAM still showed up as 3-3-3-8. Stability issues were still happening. I already plugged in the FDD and HDD connectors and that didn't help my situation any. I also had unplugged my 2 DVD-RW drives, several case fans, and my 2 other hard drives. The PSU I am running is a TrueControl 550W, but a OCZ PS 520W is on it's way tomorrow, as the T.C. is a 20-pin PSU and I don't want to use adapters.

So anyhow, I manually adjusted my RAM settings to be 2-3-3-8 for now and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I have been totally fine with everything at "stock" settings. I'm letting my new week-51 3000+ Winnie burn in for a few days as I wait for the OCZ PSU and my new Swiftech waterblock to get here.

I am still questioning what I should do with this RAM situation though and why the SPD is giving the incorrect number. OPP, did your VX shows up as CAS 2 why you first put it in, or did you O/C and adjust setting immediately?

Thanks a lot,
Brian

Btomasie, just as trans am posted, VX has SPD timings of 3-3-3-8. Bump the voltage to 3.2 (what's the point of getting VX = Voltage eXtreme memory if you're running it 2.8v?), manually change timings to 2-2-2-10 and you're flying.
02-07-2005, 11:27 AM
apu673

Quote:

I've noticed a few people mentioning issues with booting up and the DFi logo just staying on the screen. I first had that too and eventually worked myself out of being "stuck". The lower-left corner of the board (once installed) has the 4 LED's. Mine stayed stuck with 2 lit, which I understood as it having an issue with the RAM. I originally had the RAM in slots 1 and 3 (the yellows). Once i swapped them out to 2 and 4, I got past the DFI logo and to the boot up sequence (and from there promptly went into the BIOS and shut the logo off!!) so that I could see all the settings from that point on.

Hope that helps someone.

Brian

I had my 2x256mb in slots 2 and 4 at first. Then I tried just one dimm in slot 2, still no luck getting past Logo.
02-07-2005, 11:39 AM
apu673

Ok now I have 1 stick in slot 4, and the CPU fan works while connected to the motherboard header. Now instead of beeping once and freezing at logo, I get long continuous beeps, and no post. 3 out of 4 of the diagnostic LEDs are on. What now?
02-07-2005, 11:45 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue078

Yes... and it doesnt seem to help any.

How about a straight in 24pin from the PS?
02-07-2005, 11:48 AM
btomasie

mrlobber,
thanks for the input. The only reason thus far to keep it at 2.8v was to ensure that I have a fully stable "stock configuration" setup before cranking up the CPU, RAM, or video card settings. And the OCZ PS PSU doesn't get here until tomorrow, so I'm hesitant to be messing with too many voltage settings right now.

Thanks again,
Brian
02-07-2005, 12:15 PM
apu673

Ok, small update. Slots 1 and 2 beep once, but then wont get past DFI logo (3 out of 4 Diagnostic LEDs). Slots 3 and 4 won't post at all and has long continous beeps. I've tried (512mb)Corsair BH-6 as well as my (256mb)GSkill TCCD. I have no idea what to do now, i've played musical chairs with all the dimms and cleared CMOS several times!
02-07-2005, 12:18 PM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

also have massive usb problems, machine sometimes hangs on bios boot screen with usb plugged in and very often windows doesent recognize usb devices. yesterday changed usb cable and all went fine (usb hhd read speed was 30mb/sec . today turned machine on and no usb devices, even after rebooting / on-off swichting. just gone. i have a look at this after work

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

This is also my biggest issue right now.

lets share some machine specs. here mine :

board A00
bios : 2005/01/25
usb settings in bios : default, tried everything
gfx : 8MB SiS PCI (no xpress :D )
mem : mushkin 3200 level 2 bh-5 (one stick at moment)
intel 1000 mt network card
onboard network stuff disabled (cause boot pxe wont work for me)
hdd-less system boot via network
psu : 470w beqiet 24 pin psu
ps/2 mouse & keyboard

on everybodys machine all usb stuff went fine ???
02-07-2005, 12:42 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

Ok, small update. Slots 1 and 2 beep once, but then wont get past DFI logo (3 out of 4 Diagnostic LEDs). Slots 3 and 4 won't post at all and has long continous beeps. I've tried (512mb)Corsair BH-6 as well as my (256mb)GSkill TCCD. I have no idea what to do now, i've played musical chairs with all the dimms and cleared CMOS several times!

maybe a dumb question, but are you sure the Vid card 6 pin power is plugged in? It seems your problem is obviosuly beyond your ram, as you have tried so many combinations.
02-07-2005, 12:44 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

lets share some machine specs. here mine :

board A00
bios : 2005/01/25
usb settings in bios : default, tried everything
gfx : 8MB SiS PCI (no xpress :D )
mem : mushkin 3200 level 2 bh-5 (one stick at moment)
intel 1000 mt network card
onboard network stuff disabled (cause boot pxe wont work for me)
hdd-less system boot via network
psu : 470w beqiet 24 pin psu
ps/2 mouse & keyboard

on everybodys machine all usb stuff went fine ???

Mine is a pre-release version board (r.pr32). my specs are in my sig, but I already sent it back for a retail release that they are overnighting me, but at least my tccd sticks worked up to 300htt on the sample board. Now I am worried that the reatail board won't work as well.
02-07-2005, 12:48 PM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Mine is a pre-release version board (r.pr32). my specs are in my sig, but I already sent it back for a retail release that they are overnighting me, but at least my tccd sticks worked up to 300htt on the sample board. Now I am worried that the reatail board won't work as well.

Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831
02-07-2005, 12:49 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:( Oh guys - whatcha postin' here - my board has been shipped today and now I'll get nitemares tonite............ :confused:
02-07-2005, 01:00 PM
apu673

Well I figured out i'm just an idiot...I have 2 Disc Drives and 1 IDE harddrive, well I left one of the disk drives unplugged and that seemed to be the problem. Everything is good now, dual-channel and all. Running memtest right now.
02-07-2005, 01:00 PM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:( Oh guys - whatcha postin' here - my board has been shipped today and now I'll get nitemares tonite............ :confused:

You'll be fine HCC :)

Have you got your waterblock yet?

:toast:
Geoff
02-07-2005, 01:03 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831

Thanks, encouraging. :) Give me some hope that nice my pre-release experience with tccd wasn't going to end.
02-07-2005, 01:05 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

Mine does :)
see
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...831#post703831

Actually looking at your specs, they are very close to mine except I have a pcpc PS. I wonder if the FX is behaving differently than others? Which power connectors on the board are you using and what voltages on vcore and ram?
02-07-2005, 01:14 PM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Actually looking at your specs, they are very close to mine except I have a pcpc PS. I wonder if the FX is behaving differently than others? Which power connectors on the board are you using and what voltages on vcore and ram?

Voltages are actually in the picture in the link- if you believe smart guardian ;)

Anyway they are: RAM 2.9, CPU 1.55
I'm not using the FDD or Molex connectors on the board
The wiring in my (small- PC60) case looks like a birds nest as it is.... ;)
02-07-2005, 01:31 PM
xgman

Hmm, 1.55vcore at almost 3 gighz? Nice work!

I have the 24pin plus the molex plugged in near the chipset.
02-07-2005, 01:35 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

You'll be fine HCC :)

Have you got your waterblock yet?

:toast:
Geoff

:D No, the board has been shipped today and will arrive Wednesday, I hope to get the waterblock also in time........ :toast:
02-07-2005, 02:05 PM
Zac89

My sticks of VX are going worse and worse... :brick: :brick: :brick:

Yesterday night they pass 720 loop of memtest #5, today they have some errors @260...

Maybe the memory controller of my winchester is going to burn??? :confused:

(sorry for my bad english...)
02-07-2005, 02:31 PM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Hmm, 1.55vcore at almost 3 gighz? Nice work!

I have the 24pin plus the molex plugged in near the chipset.

Do you think the Molex is important? You've been at this sort of thing longer than I have....

I just tried 2.5 3 3 8. No go even at 3.1 volts. Lots of errors in Memtest. Then no post on return to previous settings :mad: But I fixed eventually, several CMOS clears + a battery removal later :)
02-07-2005, 03:13 PM
Blue078

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

Do you think the Molex is important? You've been at this sort of thing longer than I have....

I just tried 2.5 3 3 8. No go even at 3.1 volts. Lots of errors in Memtest. Then no post on return to previous settings :mad: But I fixed eventually, several CMOS clears + a battery removal later :)

So you haveing trouble with OCZ TCCD's??
I thought my TCCD problem might only be because I PDP mem with TCCD's..humm
02-07-2005, 03:25 PM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue078

So you haveing trouble with OCZ TCCD's??
I thought my TCCD problem might only be because I PDP mem with TCCD's..humm

Not at 2.5 3 4 7 - see post 143 ;)
02-07-2005, 03:29 PM
flutie98

hmm hopefully my new Gskill TCCD will play nice with this board
02-07-2005, 04:15 PM
ENGiN

hy guys, im new here :toast:

I have veryy stupid driver/hardware problem.....

if I a program to start want and it double-click have I a delay of 1-2sek or I must around a program to start sometimes want 3-4 times on it to click

i installed usb 2.0 driver but not help ... :confused:

pleeease pleeeeeeeeeeeease help me :(
02-07-2005, 05:54 PM
apu673

Is there anyway to update BIOS through windows with this motherboard? (don't have a floppy drive)
02-07-2005, 06:32 PM
flutie98

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

Is there anyway to update BIOS through windows with this motherboard? (don't have a floppy drive)

yep, winflash
02-07-2005, 06:37 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

Ok, small update. Slots 1 and 2 beep once, but then wont get past DFI logo (3 out of 4 Diagnostic LEDs). Slots 3 and 4 won't post at all and has long continous beeps. I've tried (512mb)Corsair BH-6 as well as my (256mb)GSkill TCCD. I have no idea what to do now, i've played musical chairs with all the dimms and cleared CMOS several times!

RTFM :)

for dual channel use Slot 2 and 4, (OR, but might be flakey) Slot 1 and 3
Slot 2 and 4 are the orange/reddish ones. (not yellow)

Put ONE dimm only in Slot 2

---> NO slots 1 and 2 and NOT slots 3 and 4

Please read the manual its in there and this is essential.
02-07-2005, 06:38 PM
flexy

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

I had my 2x256mb in slots 2 and 4 at first. Then I tried just one dimm in slot 2, still no luck getting past Logo.

sry..just read that later after i replied :)
02-07-2005, 07:21 PM
coldcase

What do you guys use to flash the board to the new beta bios if it doesn't post because of the tccd memory issue? I'm suppose to get an Ultra-D this week and I have 2 X 512 OCZ 3200 plat. rev.2. Thanks.
02-07-2005, 07:37 PM
Awperator

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldcase

What do you guys use to flash the board to the new beta bios if it doesn't post because of the tccd memory issue? I'm suppose to get an Ultra-D this week and I have 2 X 512 OCZ 3200 plat. rev.2. Thanks.

Use winflash. Do a google search. First hit. Very easy and intuitive.

- Awperator
02-07-2005, 07:59 PM
quicksilverXP

I'm using the Feb. 1 bios... it is the best... look here...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=52557
02-07-2005, 10:38 PM
coldcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awperator

Use winflash. Do a google search. First hit. Very easy and intuitive.

- Awperator

Thanks but isn't Winflash a windows program? If you can't boot you need to flash before windows gets installed no?
02-08-2005, 12:41 AM
pudds

It boots with one stick of memory just not two. Boot with one,flash,unplu,rest cmos, install 2nd.
02-08-2005, 12:57 AM
coldcase

Quote:

Originally Posted by pudds

It boots with one stick of memory just not two. Boot with one,flash,unplu,rest cmos, install 2nd.

So you actually boot and need to install windows with one stick then flash, clear cmos and install the 2nd stick?
02-08-2005, 03:35 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

Mine is a pre-release version board (r.pr32). my specs are in my sig, but I already sent it back for a retail release that they are overnighting me, but at least my tccd sticks worked up to 300htt on the sample board. Now I am worried that the reatail board won't work as well.

i got the thing to run ! sounds stupid , but my "anubis / typhoon" usb 2.0 hub was it ! just changed with "cytronix" 2.0 hub and no more problems, except when you turn on usb devices during power on machine it hangs, can live with this :D

just one problem left with VX/BH5 @ high voltages :rolleyes:

i love this board more & more :banana:
02-08-2005, 04:18 AM
Enz0

I posted this once to DFI-STREET.COM but Angry_Games replied like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry_Games

you probably have a better chance of getting an answer from him at xtreme forums than I do lol

i cant answer because i have only had my hands on a single 939 board (the nf4 sli)

So, I post it here too.

My friend CIMA did this amazing thing.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/cima/0dbd7629.png
M/B:LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D
BIOS:201
CPU:Athlon 64 3200+ CBBID 0441MPMW
CPU Cooling:XP-90
Memory:TwinMOS PC3200 BH-6 256MB x2
VGA?ATI XPERT 98 PCI 8MB
HDD?MAXTOR 6Y80P0
PowerSuplly?Zippy-460WS
Vcore:1.51V / Vdimm:3.80V / Vio:3.46V
OS:Windows Server 2003

But, when he sets Trtw to 1, it maxes out at memory clock of 250 or so whatever Vdimm is.
With other boards, like Epox EP-9NDA3+, we can reach higher memory clock with Trtw 1.
Like this (By my friend New Beetle).
http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c...57S_DDR333.gif

Could someone ask Oskar what's going on?
02-08-2005, 04:23 AM
ominae

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

Not at 2.5 3 4 7 - see post 143 ;)

hehe, i've got same RAM as you - I'm stuck at 290 (haven't tried 295 like you) it can't seem get it stable at 300HT, I tried OPB's settings, still no go, any setting suggestions? WE GOTTA MAKE THIS RAM >= 300! :D
02-08-2005, 04:34 AM
uranium

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominae

hehe, i've got same RAM as you - I'm stuck at 290 (haven't tried 295 like you) it can't seem get it stable at 300HT, I tried OPB's settings, still no go, any setting suggestions? WE GOTTA MAKE THIS RAM >= 300! :D

I'll have a play later- at work at the mo ;)
02-08-2005, 04:48 AM
ENGiN

Quote:

Originally Posted by ENGiN

hy guys, im new here :toast:

I have veryy stupid driver/hardware problem.....

if I a program to start want and it double-click have I a delay of 1-2sek or I must around a program to start sometimes want 3-4 times on it to click

i installed usb 2.0 driver but not help ... :confused:

pleeease pleeeeeeeeeeeease help me :(

:( need help
02-08-2005, 04:48 AM
Orker

Im having soooo many issues with CSS and SLI.... anyone else??
02-08-2005, 06:06 AM
Nube

DFI Website down at moment,, butU can download the bios here...

http://www.ricco.karoo.net/down/

I'm a nube yeh,, got new hdd's and win xp pro,,
To flash the bios to the latest bios,, I just put the 2 bios files
(NF4LD201) & (AWDFLASH) on a floppy

start dos mode, and type "NF4LD201" to flash bios ? do i need 2 make floppy bootable some how ?
then shutdown, and install XP?
02-08-2005, 06:11 AM
Nube

test sig
02-08-2005, 07:05 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium

Do you think the Molex is important? You've been at this sort of thing longer than I have....

I just tried 2.5 3 3 8. No go even at 3.1 volts. Lots of errors in Memtest. Then no post on return to previous settings :mad: But I fixed eventually, several CMOS clears + a battery removal later :)

It says it adds stability to the baord, so why not?
02-08-2005, 07:08 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominae

hehe, i've got same RAM as you - I'm stuck at 290 (haven't tried 295 like you) it can't seem get it stable at 300HT, I tried OPB's settings, still no go, any setting suggestions? WE GOTTA MAKE THIS RAM >= 300! :D

try 2.5-4-3-7-1T 2.9v
02-08-2005, 11:17 AM
apu673

Right now I got my winnie at 250x9, but I want to check something before I go further. Does anyone else get ridiclously low CPU temps? I'm at 250x9 with 1.425vcore and I'm idling 30c with stock heatsink. Ambient temp is 65 F. Also my chipset temp is 40c, when it this too high?
02-08-2005, 11:45 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by apu673

Right now I got my winnie at 250x9, but I want to check something before I go further. Does anyone else get ridiclously low CPU temps? I'm at 250x9 with 1.425vcore and I'm idling 30c with stock heatsink. Ambient temp is 65 F. Also my chipset temp is 40c, when it this too high?

1.425 vcore idle @ 30c sounds right on.
02-08-2005, 02:26 PM
ominae

Quote:

Originally Posted by xgman

try 2.5-4-3-7-1T 2.9v

No go xgman :/ Thanks for the tip though :toast: 300mhz 1:1 HT is eluding me :/
02-08-2005, 03:21 PM
daniel734

Does the Corsair 3200XL Pro suck with this board? :rolleyes:
I havent seen any results.. except AMDnewbies results...

I really dont have the money for some nice OCZ now.. :(
02-08-2005, 03:27 PM
ominae

I wouldn't think so, I think Corsair 3200XL v1.2 (i think its 1.2) is on the new brainpower pcb - I'm sure it'll scale pretty well, just that OCZ/G.Skill have better chances of reaching high speeds
02-08-2005, 11:46 PM
Chris85

I got my DFI nForce 4 Ultra-D 2 days ago, but haven't tried it until yesterday. Now I can't get it too boot, while everything works on my Gigabyte K8NF-9. The thing is I'm using a PCI video card now (Voodoo 3), cause I'm waiting on a X850XT PE.

Does anyone know, or can anyone test if this board works with a PCI card.
02-09-2005, 02:07 AM
ViperJohn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85

I got my DFI nForce 4 Ultra-D 2 days ago, but haven't tried it until yesterday. Now I can't get it too boot, while everything works on my Gigabyte K8NF-9. The thing is I'm using a PCI video card now (Voodoo 3), cause I'm waiting on a X850XT PE.

Does anyone know, or can anyone test if this board works with a PCI card.

Try doing a Cmos clear. I could not get mine to boot either until I did.

Viper
02-09-2005, 02:13 AM
Chris85

I did a CMOS clear, with the jumper, I'll try and get the battery out tonight, but I'm not sure if it's mobo or PCI card related, if it's not PCI related I might have gotten a faulty board.... :(
02-09-2005, 03:27 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85

I got my DFI nForce 4 Ultra-D 2 days ago, but haven't tried it until yesterday. Now I can't get it too boot, while everything works on my Gigabyte K8NF-9. The thing is I'm using a PCI video card now (Voodoo 3), cause I'm waiting on a X850XT PE.

Does anyone know, or can anyone test if this board works with a PCI card.

hi

im using old sis 8mb pci card, works fine for me. had first some problems to boot cause sticked mem to wrong slot. dual channel belongs to the red slots, single channel to the red slot more away from cpu. what shows the onboard led ? does the pci card work in other machine ?
02-09-2005, 03:38 AM
Chris85

PCI card works on my other mobo, all 4 leds are burning, and I get no sound from the speaker, I enabled it with the jumper, mobo's DOA I guess... :(
02-09-2005, 03:58 AM
psycho303

To all Dfi Nf4 Bh5/VX Ram Users!

please can confirm somebody running BH5/VX rams on the NF4-DFI with 3.4v or more voltage on non PR-board ???
me and an other user having problems with higher voltages on that ram results in mem-test errors on the "same" adress, what is un-typical for overclocked ram. on other users machine the errors disapear when lowering mem voltage. on my machine one of the mushkin bh5 starts to get errors on same adress when i set to 3.4v. but mine even apears when lowering voltage , looks like it somehow broken. i really would like to know experience from other users, cause dont wanna kill my fresh RMAed-VX kit.
my theory is that the mem controller of my 3000+ which reach 2.65Ghz prime stable is weak and somehow killed my mushkin :confused:. sorry for bad english :D
02-09-2005, 03:59 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85

PCI card works on my other mobo, all 4 leds are burning, and I get no sound from the speaker, I enabled it with the jumper, mobo's DOA I guess... :(

you checked the ram slots ?
02-09-2005, 04:03 AM
Chris85

Yeah, the orange ones 2&4 are dual channel, but I also tried all the other slots...Also tried running with 1 stick only, nothing helps though.
02-09-2005, 07:00 AM
Zac89

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

please can confirm somebody running BH5/VX rams on the NF4-DFI with 3.4v or more voltage on non PR-board ???
me and an other user having problems with higher voltages on that ram results in mem-test errors on the "same" adress, what is un-typical for overclocked ram. on other users machine the errors disapear when lowering mem voltage. on my machine one of the mushkin bh5 starts to get errors on same adress when i set to 3.4v. but mine even apears when lowering voltage , looks like it somehow broken. i really would like to know experience from other users, cause dont wanna kill my fresh RMAed-VX kit.
my theory is that the mem controller of my 3000+ which reach 2.65Ghz prime stable is weak and somehow killed my mushkin :confused:. sorry for bad english :D

my memory works fine with 3.5 or 3.6v

The problem IMHO is the memory controller.
it is @ 0.13 or 0.09 and it doesn't work fine with 3.5v or more.

the mobo doesn't matter... ;)
02-09-2005, 07:22 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ominae

No go xgman :/ Thanks for the tip though :toast: 300mhz 1:1 HT is eluding me :/

Make sure your on 0201 bios.
02-09-2005, 09:50 AM
Mastakilla

are people still having problems with usb devices?
02-09-2005, 10:04 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zac89

my memory works fine with 3.5 or 3.6v

The problem IMHO is the memory controller.
it is @ 0.13 or 0.09 and it doesn't work fine with 3.5v or more.

the mobo doesn't matter... ;)

on which cpu it runs with 3.6v on your machine ?
02-09-2005, 10:04 AM
psycho303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mastakilla

are people still having problems with usb devices?

fixed my usb problems, it was the hub :)
02-09-2005, 10:25 AM
Zac89

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

on which cpu it runs with 3.6v on your machine ?

3500+ winchester.

But it is a worst cpu... it cant go upper than 2550... :(
02-09-2005, 11:02 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho303

please can confirm somebody running BH5/VX rams on the NF4-DFI with 3.4v or more voltage on non PR-board ???
me and an other user having problems with higher voltages on that ram results in mem-test errors on the "same" adress, what is un-typical for overclocked ram. on other users machine the errors disapear when lowering mem voltage. on my machine one of the mushkin bh5 starts to get errors on same adress when i set to 3.4v. but mine even apears when lowering voltage , looks like it somehow broken. i really would like to know experience from other users, cause dont wanna kill my fresh RMAed-VX kit.
my theory is that the mem controller of my 3000+ which reach 2.65Ghz prime stable is weak and somehow killed my mushkin :confused:. sorry for bad english :D

yeah, mine respond best at 3.2v opposed to my previous 3.5v
02-09-2005, 07:56 PM
Dumo

HELP........Warning: Have option ROM.....at boot...

HELP.........at boot this always flashing: "warning : Have option ROM can not be invoke (vendor ID: 10D Eh Deivce ID:0057h)"
It is happen to anyone? What it means? I'm using ultra-D with 02/5 bios and tccd 431...and htt300 stable at 3.1V:eek:
02-09-2005, 09:25 PM
SVTSnake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumo

HELP.........at boot this always flashing: "warning : Have option ROM can not be invoke (vendor ID: 10D Eh Deivce ID:0057h)"
It is happen to anyone? What it means? I'm using ultra-D with 02/5 bios and tccd 431...and htt300 stable at 3.1V:eek:

Mine does that every once in a while, especially when going into the bios. Have you manually set your nvidia MAC address in the bios? Mine stopped saying that AFTER I manually set the MAC (don't ask, don't know why its not automatically set in the bios like every other board I have ever owned was!?!?)
02-09-2005, 09:34 PM
SVTSnake

Okay, found some very interesting and weird things tonight with my system. If you recall, I mentioned back on page 1 I believe about needing 3.1v on the G.Skill LE TCCD to pass Memtest #5&6, and to get the board to boot. Well, tonight after reading over at DFI-Street with 1 of the guys board having issues running test #8, I thought I give it it a try. Well, guess what? 3.1v errored out almost instantly. Than, I tried running SuperPI 1m and it errored always between test 13-16. Remembering OPB's settings and him using 2.6v, I tried that and whala! Memtest passed #8 looping for over 40 minutes. It was always failing in test #8 at 756mb and 9?? meaning it should be my module in bank 4 (correct?). I swapped modules around to see if I could get it fail in bank 2, but the same address failed again. Apon further investigation, I noticed that dimm slot 2 get plenty of blowoff air coming from the XP120 and 120mm fan, but slot 4 gets hardly any. Looking through the XP120, you can see slot 2 through the fins of the heatsink, but not slot 4. If we could use slots 1 & 3, it would get more airflow off the XP120. I don't think the Zalman's would have this problem as their design is radial. For those looking into air cooling, you might want to take a look at either the 7000 or 7700 instead of the XP120. I really do think that your memory slots will get better airflow with them, compared to the XP120.

For those wondering, I was able to swap memory positions just fine without taking off the XP120. I had plenty of room to get the G.Skill LE's out and back in!

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