thats so amazing. I think i will get the 3200+ version of the venice to upgraed. Will it be a big performance bost from 2.6c@3.27 to the venice 3200+? I wan't to make this upgrade worth while.
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thats so amazing. I think i will get the 3200+ version of the venice to upgraed. Will it be a big performance bost from 2.6c@3.27 to the venice 3200+? I wan't to make this upgrade worth while.
Very nice and encouraging result! Thank you for the info.
Please keep them coming. Please ..please..please try if those doble sided 4X256MB memory will run at T1. That that is a very important test we need to know.
Wanna know about cold bug!!!
:D
Hopefully that problem is fixed. btw, this an nf4? so I see amd fixed the "venice bug"? :D
he's using a NEO2Quote:
Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez
I think i will get the 3200+ version of the venice to upgraed. Will it be a big performance bost from 2.6c@3.27 to the venice 3200+? I wan't to make this upgrade worth while.
Assuming the 3200 oc's as well as the 3800, it will be worthwhile.
Soooo much info in this thread already I might have missed it but ticket price on this chip yet?
if that CPU has no Cold bug, it's a great addition to the AMD64 line.
the winchesters were never of much interest to me, cause anything I can't put under sub zero, really isn't very useful to me.
hopefully, these CPU's solve that issue.
cause the Addition of SSE3 must be nice, and hopefully the updated memcontroller finally supports 4 sticks of ram, at DDR400 speeds.
can you try super Pi with, and without the SSE3 patch.
if you don't have the patch, please email me and I will send them to you.
I been compiling a list of how the SSE2/SSE3 patches effect AMD64's, and prescotts, to evaluate whether or not I consider them a cheat.
(by the way, after what I seen of AMD64's with the SSE2 patch, comparing them to P4's with the SSE2 patch, I really can't say they are cheats-the results are identical, regaurdless of brand of CPU used... but I will add that to my Anti Cheating post soon ;) with results)
s7e9h3n,
Thanks for taking the time to fill us all in.
Do you have any pics of the 3500+?
Would you mind running the 3500+ on air before you set up the phase change for the 3800+?
OMG :slobber: :slobber: I cant wait to touch my hands to this amazing CPU ( My Winnie has just broken some pins :bsod: )
Can u show some screenshot of prime stable ? :hehe:
:cord: :toast:
No prob, I don't currently have the patch on file, so I'll e-mail you for it now......Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
NICE! cant wait to hear if the cold bug has been fixed
Ditto, I'm just hoping the 90nm FX's don't suffer from this, though if the Venice cores show no problems it will open up possibilities :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Actually, I do. I'm contemplating whether or not to run the cpu yet. I think that if/when I sell it, it's nicer when one gets something that is "brand new." :) Also, I'm pretty sure it's the exact same stepping as this 3800+ so performance would be similar. That being said, I still may test it for the sake of testing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by leanintoit
test it tbqfh ;) and under some cold temperatures :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
ya but I'm sure people will be willing to pay more if they know what they're getting for their money..Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Test it, I don´t mind buying it...if it overclocks like the 3800+ :)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
tbqfh?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbios
And if it doesn't? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Caper
I certainly understand, some peeps don't like the idea that they're buying a processor that's been overclocked.
That said, I'm sure anyone around here would buy it, including me ;)
its the long version of saying "to be honest" (tbh) q = quite f = ...well cant say that hear lolQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
(i have a habit of putting tbh on anything i can)
omg tihs is so exciting. I have been with inetl for so long now and i think thats about to change. I am starting to NOTICE AMD now.... sorry..
I am really looking forward to getting the 3200+ and watch it climb the ladder like a mad man.
Man that thing seems nice. Look at that low ass vcore on stock! It's gotta stay really cool and get some nice OC's just with stock alone...hmmm delicious
Let's not make this thread into a f/s one. (I don't wanna piss off any mods ;) .) When the time is right, I'll let everyone know......
I think you would have no problem selling it on XS, even pretested :D
Then I buy your 3800+ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Seriously, I would´t mind buying a "pretested" cpu to a little higher price.
Done that several times and spared me a lot of time and money to find a cpu that pleases me.
Edit: Enough about selling talk...try out that 3500+ on air and then put them under subzero temps also :)
yes, please we want those babies to freeze. ...Man this thread groes so damn fast. Lets see some 300MHz htt
Stand in line buddy. :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by matt9669
You're safe s7e9h3n, I'm a mod :up: If peeps start making offers in the thread, let me know and I'll shut them down.
Hmm, rock-paper-scissors Chunky? :ROTF:
reminds of me northwood cores. Massive gains before upping the voltage. But the last 100 or so MHZ requires a massive raise in vcore. Looks impressive so far. 3ghz on suicide runs.
At the rate this thread seems to be going, I'll probably reach the minimum post count to put these up for sale in the trading forum here :p:
You must test the 3500+ too! Do it for the OC science! We must know if 3ghz is possible on 3500+ too ;)
I think 3GHz stable is possible with a good heatsink like a Thermalright XP-120 or a Zalman 7700 and some volts. I'd say we can expect some even better OC's as soon as they get the process perfected.
Yeaahh!! :banana: :banana: :banana: you hit 3ghz :D
nice work here mate, it was worth the exhausting and stranuous wait!
I'll just sit back and wait for the sub-zero results. If that puppy can play in the cold, there's no reason why the 90nm FX can't.
That's what I'm thinking . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
Nice! That chip would be nice, I thought that my 3200+ @260x10 1,57v 1:1 was pretty good, but when I se this, can't find the words :p
Assuming this baby works at subzero temps, I'm gonna say somewhere just north of 3.3Ghz. May be a bit optimistic, but hell, I'm excited1 :)
*DISCLAIMER* - I in NO WAY intend for anything in this post to be taken as a "rumor" or substantiated claim. Rather, everything above is just my mindless blathering. the End.
I'm also waiting for subzero temps. If it works well we may see the first FX-55 @ 4ghz, w00t!
---guy with new cool ship---
DO you know if the new Chips will be speed binned? Will all 3X00's get similar results?
omfg 3 on air stock fx 55 cooling just sad about my cpu :( somebody wants a 3500 newcastle and do me a favor in fact i would change it for a 3200 venice :D april is so far :(
wow great results! man i cant wait to ditch this winnie (didnt even have it for that long, haha).
Impressive. Looking forward to the cold. Make sure to test your max mem overclock with this chip as compared to an older winny or newcastle.
mm...hopefully stephen will be gracing us with some screenies here shortly.
I wouldn't say "shortly" - I'm still at work. :( It'll be at least a couple of hours before I'd have anything new to post. Hopefully nobody's killing themselves trying to stay awake just to see a Venice on ice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
Nice screenies, and the cpu seems great! :toast:
no problems, i've got about 6 hours before i should be asleep. i'm sure i'll see some preliminary stuff at the least. good luck getting it sub-zero :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
and welcome to the forums kjaks :banana:
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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
nah, well I'm not at least. Actually biding my time by doing some Econ. homework. hoo ha for college.
Man, good ol' college days. I don't know how I got my degree from Berkeley when I spent more time oc'n my 1.6a Northwood than on all of my econ homework combined =)Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
3Ghz on air :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: simply amazing. Very nice chip :toast:
:slobber: Thats all I can say....
Was thinking about this all day, after the post last night.. well worth the wait s7e9h3n :toast:
Now FLOOR IT! :lol:
Give it 1.65V and bench @ 3+ GHz
nice cpu!!! :D
You put her under phase yet?... she's beggin for it!!!
Cant wait to see her under phase :)
hmmmm I have some mixed feelings about Venice. Firstly he needed a very expensive 3800+ which is amd's highest speed bin and lots of volts to hit 2.95GHz and it may not be 100% stable either, just stable enough to get to windows and do quick superPI runs, 100% stable may be perhaps 2.9GHz or even less. We still have yet to see a large sample and of 3000+ and 3200+ examples too. A conclusion would be too haste to make based on a single early(engineering sample?) of a 3800+ and for all we know his could be a bad clocker. I am still worried how well Venice will work in existing mobos, especially my gigabyte nf3.
as for those who recently bought a winny, I had suggested you wait for venice in many threads, but winnies still arent that bad if you dont mind losing 200-300MHz performance, better ondie, sse3 and higher IPC but cant wait! You could always ebay your winny and go venice, its simple as that and not the end of the world. I will have to wait and see how well the 3000+ and 3200+ are doing, those speed bins are in my price range before I decide to get one now or keep waiting.
Yes, what he says! C'mon! you won't kill it that easilly... Those temps are fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
If the new design likes to go Antarctic, I can't wait to see a San Diego with a cascade :banana:
If the 3Ghz barrier is easily broken with water on these new cores, the sound of my credit card begging for mercy will be music to my ears. Plus I'll be able to finally use this Storm G4 I have laying around :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
What? The 2.4GHz / 1.35v (!) part runs at 2.76GHz *at stock voltage* *on air*, and hits 2.89GHz at only 1.4v *on air*.
That's excellent.
Geforce4ti4200 - You really should check out the screenshots again. His data should be considered preliminary since it is obvious that the time he has put into the testing has been less than brief. Besides, this is barely the first glimpse we're getting on Venice and no one knows if his sample is a bad clocker. We'll see more down the road, and then we can speculate and make assumptions. ;)
I have already said we cant be too hasty based on one venice being tested. also this is a 3800+ no one yet knows how the 3000+ will do, will it be any better than my 3000+ winny at 2.6GHz? Not everyone has $500 for a 3800+ venice. I am also curious how it likes the cold, test that 3500+ venice too
edit: one more thing, no one knows how stable venice will be on todays mobos, even if it boots, is it stable?
@ Conrad: Let's just hope that Venice will make your sentence in your sig no more true ;)
My signature will always be the truth for us average folks. It rarely applies to the OC gods, although sometimes they are subject to some misfortunes as well. ;)
Lets hope that it does clock well, so far so good.
why would a Venice have a Higher IPC then any other AMD 64?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Wouldn't SSE3 effect IPC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
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Originally Posted by Kunaak
amd may do tweaks to the cache, ondie controller and what not. I already saw benchmarks where a winny was 3-5% faster than a newcastle(both s939) and I hear venice will once again raise this
omg!
is there any improvment in performance clock for clock against a winnie?
a winnie at 2.6ghz vs a venice at 2.6ghz which wins?
is the venice gonna be 3200 to?
They may do tweaks, they may not. We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
I think we won't be seeing some subzero action/results until tomorrow. I hope s7e9h3n is successful freezing that puppy. :)
With these new cpu, especially fx57 the oc results are predictable....
sandra mem bw/cpu arith @ 10k/16.5k, superpi 1M @ 24 and below, 3d01 @ 40k and up....and Aquamark probly shattered 120k(with sli)... :D
Yes, I can't wait to see the subzero clocks as well. My winnie doesn't get much more from the cold temps than it does on air.
I really hope they don't do massive speed binning. I'd love to buy a 3000+ and overclock it to 2.8-3GHz on water. :slobber: As has been previously stated, not everyone here has $500 waiting to be tossed on the counter for a new CPU. Some of us barely have $200. :p:
THANK YOU FOR THE RESULTS S739H3N! :toast:
Lets not hope that they dont speed bin, lets hope that all the chips are uniform and all will rocket. :D
WOW :slobber:
[butthead voice]Come to Joris :p: [/butthead voice]
Only i want a strong/robust memory controller :) More than Winnys.
SSE3 would be a plus :)
Really hope that Venice would have better memory controller than that of Winni... So far I don't any different except it can clock really high...
i believe its been largely confirmed that Venice cores will benefit from upgraded mem controllers. the whole IPC increase and such is all speculation AFAIK.
wow.. just wow... as soon as the prices are reasonable and supply is reasonable my winnie is getting the boot out of here... 2.35ghz and barely stable... POS.
You must've gotten the same batch of Winchester I did! I got a 3200+ CBBID 0451CPBW and could only get to 2.35... barely.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
If you saw the screenies he's already posted it looks like venice is about 3% faster than a winchester clock for clock.
sounds good. ackbar. mine is an 0506.. so not the same batch. but it sucks hardcore just like urs... i keep thinking to myself this cant be and there must be some other way to get it up higher... but no.. nothing.
512k is not fast enough for me...
staying 754, newark turion 64s will 0wn
the turions look nice, but i only seen them 1.8 on 1.2vcore, and you cant really compare that to 2.4 on 1.175 with dc, even when they have the extra cache. :(
Yay, no more teasing ;) Can't way to see more.
from my hometown malaysia... rocksssssQuote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
lol cbble???like the counter strike map??? :rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ref
been lots of talk of the problem being the VID settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
This chip looks amazing and I cant wait to see it frozen.
Looks like I may finally make the jump from my trusty AXP-Mobile. Now I just want to see some more stable mobo's out....
Didn't help my CBBID 0451 crap at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Waiting to be rescued by Venice :D
How high can it go with a 9x multiplier? the cheapest venice should be 3000+ 9x200 ?
*ahum FLOOR IT *cough
Air cooled + 1.65v = ?!
Venice + Subzero + X.XX volts = ???? !
I'm dying here :slobber: :D
(greetz to curious EOCF people :D )
Hello all,
Man it's been a long night with this Venice. You cannont even begin to comprehend how quarky this cpu is. I've managed to get a few more screenshots and I'll have to post them tomorrow since I'm dead on my feet. It's almost 4:00AM here and I need to get some sleep for work tomorrow. I know you all are wondering what's the deal with venice and sub zero....well here's the answer:
http://img63.exs.cx/img63/4923/cpuz30000xe.jpg
-47C on stock Mach2 Display
-31C from Type K Thermocouple mounted to the side of the IHS
Move over Winchesters, cause Venice has arrived...... ;)
Sweet :D
is that like 24 hours stable? cuase it seems a bit low compared to 2.9 on stock air
thats exactly what we were finally waitin for :D
:thumbsup:
Okay ill think ill be getting rocks thrown at me but i really dotn see what the big deal is.
First, its already a 3800+, a 450mhz overclock (and thats only superpi 1mb stable) isnt anything to write home about. Hell if it stops at 2850mhz (he said it didnt finish a 2900, so thats less than 30 seconds of stability), a good 3000+ can already do that.
Then 3000mhz at -47? Sure he didnt throw 1.70volts at it but im not sure these will even TAKE 1.7v, theres always a threshold where upping the voltage actually does anything, and if the stock voltage is lower, then the upper voltage will follow.
I guess im gonna have to see what a 3000 or a 3200 can do cause a 18% overclock (that we dont know is stable) on air isnt really blowing my pants away.
3Ghz @ 1.36v :slobber: Is that stable (ofcourse not, what am I thinking)? If not, what is the voltage required to get 3ghz rockstable?
Anyone seen any San Diego Cores Clocked on Vapo yet?