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03-10-2005, 11:23 PM
Bennah

alright which one is mine :D

these things are looking great chilly1... top work !
03-11-2005, 05:28 AM
Gaz123

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennah

alright which one is mine :D

these things are looking great chilly1... top work !

IF YOU LOOK LIKE THAT ladly in the pic i think he will give you one :D
03-11-2005, 07:46 AM
BerT

What does it cost ... approximatly ?
Do you need to change the gas ?
03-11-2005, 10:51 AM
xpr-k

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerT

What does it cost ... approximatly ?
Do you need to change the gas ?

hey slettekop ;-)

Someone said 500'ish $ a few pages back . To bad his would cost insane amounts in shipping otherwise i was VERY tempted... But belgium is just to far to ship something this expensive/heavy/fragile
03-11-2005, 10:55 AM
Bennah

chilly1 has shipped cascades that are heavier that these single phase units all over the world... i suppose no where is 'too' far ;)
03-11-2005, 11:02 AM
xpr-k

Shipment + customs would probably make the price alot less interesting . Could be wrong though, especially if he could arrange it so i dont have to pay customs =] .
03-11-2005, 11:06 AM
xpr-k

500$ = 371 euro, which is about the same amount you'de have to come up with if your gonna build a high end H2O setup. If he can bypass customs and get it here for 50 or less euro (67$) i'm ordering!!!!
03-11-2005, 11:09 AM
Bennah

lol. no chace of shipping one for $67, more like $140 3-5 day usps gobal express mail... and the $500 starting figure could be wrong...

prices and stuff best pm'in chilly1...
03-11-2005, 11:14 AM
xpr-k

figured as much :))) .
Think i'm gonna just keep my spanking new H2O for now and maybe upgrade in the future perhaps chilly1 has some european distribution setup by then ;-)
In all honesty anything upto 750$ would still be one hell of a deal . Looking at the dutch pricewatch an asetek lightspeed sells for about 906$ shipment NOT included .
03-11-2005, 02:38 PM
crotale

My wish list for a single phase:
- Power connector at back, On/Off switch in front.
- Thermocoupler at evap so you can use which ever thermometer you want.

Why?
Because a freezer can run for years. Chilly1 & Co are professionals, and can definitly build these units to work 24/7.
My every day rig has a Prometeia Mach1 and I never look at the temps, especially when the rig is at the floor. I would prefer to be able to plug in the thermocoupler to a meter instead.
My $0.05
03-11-2005, 04:59 PM
gkiing

I dont think chilly1 would use USPS for shipping.. I suspect he has a freight carrier or otherwise.
03-12-2005, 01:00 PM
chilly1

USPS is the best way to go I have had less damage and fewer problems with customs shipping for a package this size is 35 n the US and 130 to 150 out of the country.
03-12-2005, 02:04 PM
Ssilencer

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPL15

Nice! I'm designing a new interface right now that acts a lot like PLC, but more specific to what is needed for this kind of application. It'll be fully controlled by a prograamable microcontroller which means I can do basicly anything with it including calling it on my cell phone to turn it on, on my way to work and have it monitor itself for proper operation. My design is probably a lot more expensive than your design though, which makes yours a lot better for manufacturing. Love seeing other people's engineering though! Good work! Hopefully you can work something out with chilly.

I've got unlimited amounts of Hyundai 2X16 LCD panels with EL backlighting which fit perfectly in a 5 1/4 Inch bay, I've got a serial comline communicating with the computer since this uses the least resources to communicate unlike USB(i'm insanely particular about efficiency/resources). The whole unit fits behind the 5 1/4 inch bay and I have one cable going to the compressor unit below that carries all the necessary connections. Mainly working out the calibration of a K type sensor right now. not as easy as I thought since it is not linear in resistance.

It would be really nice if Chilly had one of us design a PCB that could be easily made with common parts. The sky is the limit with electronics. If you want it, we can build it chilly. Really think a good Electronic control would put your systems on the top of the list with commercially available single stage phase change. With a good control unit, the startup process is all automatic including with cascades and an ACCURATE temp readout is easily attainable. Imagination is really the only limiting factor here.

Thanks for the dimensions! they are perfect for what I need. Hope to do business with you soon. I'll defintely be going with the R410 :D .

Mines are allready made
:D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...golden+froster
03-12-2005, 02:08 PM
alexio

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly1

USPS is the best way to go I have had less damage and fewer problems with customs shipping for a package this size is 35 n the US and 130 to 150 out of the country.

You said $159 to me :stick:
03-12-2005, 02:23 PM
chilly1

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexio

You said $159 to me :stick:

well about that... actual shipping depends upon your location...
03-12-2005, 03:05 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

wow, this thread is really starting to look like an advertisement/FS thread :)
However, you posted somewhere back about the condenser being able to dissipate ~400 watts, allowing it to hold ~200watts CPU load? Do you make/offer a "bigger condenser model"? Just curious... might try for one of these for my birthday (still a good 5 months off T_T )
03-12-2005, 03:18 PM
chilly1

You will have to PM me on pricing questions I stated this as a build thread as these units are mostly spoken for.
03-12-2005, 05:52 PM
MaxxxRacer

chilly, how cold to these units get with 120watt heat load?
03-13-2005, 12:30 AM
chilly1

At 120 watts we can tune them to run at -50C different compressors and we can see -55C there is a real limit on single phase cooling with out going to an oilseperator and or other circuits. The oil's pour point is aroung -55 to -60 and some oils have pour points of -40C THese are limiting actors we need to address.
03-13-2005, 12:38 AM
afireinside

So -55C is pretty much the max on single stage? What if you add an oil seperator?
03-13-2005, 12:41 AM
MaxxxRacer

ahh ic... -55C is pretty good for a single stage non autocascade. dont know of anything better. Im also guessing this is why the companies that make phase units for pc cooling havnt broken the -60C barrier is the aforementioned oils?

forgive my nobbishness here but with cascades how do you get around this? does the colder parts of the cascade not have oil in them. The seperator handles this.

BTW, chilly do you know of any guides on how to build a autocascade or a cascade in which it explains what all of the parts are and what they do and how it works. Ive been looking at ur cascade and autocascade deisngs but i cant make a darn bit of sense out of them.
03-13-2005, 01:59 AM
chilly1

bulding a three stage now I will try to be more detailed so you can follow.
03-13-2005, 02:22 AM
MaxxxRacer

thanks a bunch man.

I take it the oil is just to keep the pump lubed up? and it needs to be seperated in a cascade becuase if it gets to the evap it will just freeze.. so its fileted out in the pressure side before the drier and the oil just hangs back in the line and in the compressor.

I took a look at a diagram of a 2 stage cascade and figured out how it worked. Its kinda "simple" when you think about it. just have the evap of the first stage be the condensor of the 2nd stage.. that way you have supercooled coolant even before it goes into the evap.

but the autocascades are still a mystery to me. the superreheaters or whatever it is that ive seen you mentioned a few times. dont know what the heck those are.
03-13-2005, 05:07 AM
chilly1

CASES and wraps/

Finished a few tops for the cases first look.

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/1.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/2.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/3.jpg
03-13-2005, 05:25 AM
captaincascade

Its Crazy Chillys, Crazy Pase Change Extravaganza!!! If he doesnt recieve a order in the next 20 minutes, he will actually freeze one of the cats you see here. Thats right folks, he'll keep freezen cats... till your computer is phats.
03-13-2005, 05:38 AM
Malachia

OMG, how many cats you have?!?!?!!?
03-13-2005, 05:44 AM
xpr-k

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincascade

Its Crazy Chillys, Crazy Pase Change Extravaganza!!! If he doesnt recieve a order in the next 20 minutes, he will actually freeze one of the cats you see here. Thats right folks, he'll keep freezen cats... till your computer is phats.

:D :stick: :D
03-13-2005, 07:51 AM
LostInSpace278

Do you have these painted for you or do you paint them? Some look like they were either dipped or someone has a good decal printer.
03-13-2005, 08:10 AM
craig588

They are professionally painted by a paint shop IIRC.
03-13-2005, 08:24 AM
Bloody_Sorcerer

Woah, microfrostbyte? What is that?! is it spawn-of-frostbyte, the waterchiller, or something totally different? (frostbyte was a waterchiller, right...?)
damn those paintjobs are hot.
03-13-2005, 09:13 AM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig588

They are professionally painted by a paint shop IIRC.

I believe he draws them up in some program and has them printed (there like big lables)...

The chiller was lquid frostbyte.
03-13-2005, 09:17 AM
craig588

Oh, who has their cases painted? I know it was someone from these forums. I want to make sure I talk about the correct people.

EDIT: It was someone from forums like these, but not these exact forums.
03-13-2005, 10:12 AM
chilly1

These are like big Lables Vinyl printed and then applied.
03-13-2005, 10:55 AM
gkiing

hey is minifrostbyte a classic cascade? I remember you were working on a mini sized cascade awhile back but never heard how it turned out.
03-13-2005, 12:36 PM
MaxxxRacer

nice cases. very nice indeed...
03-13-2005, 04:11 PM
LostInSpace278

Ahhh case skins. I read something in Maximum PC about those.
03-14-2005, 07:50 PM
conrad.maranan

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly1

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/1.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/2.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/3.jpg

Wow. I just discovered that the brushed stainless steel case is mine. :D Thanks for the heads up, Reggie!
03-15-2005, 08:46 AM
MaxxxRacer

conrad bring that baby over to my house :p:
03-15-2005, 08:53 AM
SPL15

So how long is it taking you to build one of these units? Are you doing one step at a time oneach unit then going to the next step? Or are you completing several steps at a time on each unit?

I've found it more effecient to do one major step at a time, Instead of doing multiple steps at a time when I used to do production work building my amplifiers. But I guess amplifier building and refrigeration system building are two totally different beasts.

Went from 7 days to build 4 amplifiers to 12 hours just by tweaking the assembly process, order of operations, the most important ~ Keeping my frickin parts in stock :D .
03-15-2005, 08:55 AM
Bennah

chilly, could I see some pics of the insides of the microfrostbyte ? me likes that very much :D
03-15-2005, 09:07 AM
charlie

:slobber:
just can't take it any more..... vapo section of forum is addictive :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
03-15-2005, 09:59 AM
conrad.maranan

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

conrad bring that baby over to my house :p:

You'll have to carry everything for me since I've got a bad back. What you don't see in the pics is my other case - a Lian-Li PC-75 with an integrated phase unit. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

:slobber:
just can't take it any more..... vapo section of forum is addictive :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Man. You speak the truth. The images contained in this thread depict my other favorite :banana::banana::banana::banana: stars. :bananal:
03-15-2005, 10:10 AM
n00by

Any chance you also make clear Plexiglass cases Chilly? Man those would look sick with lights and a few mods here and there....

BTW what breed is that greyish kitty with the velvety coat?
03-15-2005, 11:39 AM
chilly1

Russian blue and we are working on a clear case base and all.
03-15-2005, 12:17 PM
Tanktanium

Hi there chilly1. I just stumbled across this assembly line thread (been lurking around xs for a while) and this intrigued me. Would you be interested in doing a brushed aluminum casing similar to that of a Lian Li case? I'd really like to get one of these soon, and have it appear seamless with the case. YGPM as well.
03-15-2005, 05:18 PM
SAE

Great job on these phase changers :up:

They are looking top quality and I am sure they also perform like they look like. :D
03-16-2005, 06:58 AM
boostdfd3s

If only i could afford something like this...

Impressive setup chilly1
03-16-2005, 10:22 AM
wfarid

wow great job dude...
03-16-2005, 10:56 AM
charlie

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly1

Russian blue and we are working on a clear case base and all.

yeah, that's a great looking cat! My faves are egyptian mau and ocicat.... grrrrrrr!

C
03-16-2005, 01:32 PM
Nerm

Those cases all look nice man! *twiddles thumbs, anxiously awaiting the sub-zero life* lol :)
03-17-2005, 12:01 AM
chilly1

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/46.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/47.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/48.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/49.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/50.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/51.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/52.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/53.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/54.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/55.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/56.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/57.jpg
03-17-2005, 12:04 AM
conrad.maranan

Oh so sexy. :cool:
03-17-2005, 01:40 AM
n00by

Better than pr0n anyday.... Keep those pictures coming!
03-17-2005, 04:24 AM
odb

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00by

Better than pr0n anyday.... Keep those pictures coming!

exactly what i was thinking hehehe
03-17-2005, 05:41 AM
kayl

with all these toys to play with do you even sleep chilly1 :stick:
are you gonna be using the outer braid on those flex lines.
ya need a better fan shroud though.
03-17-2005, 11:04 AM
jb2cool

where can i get braid like that? looks great
03-17-2005, 11:41 AM
dward3

Nice pics chilly1.. Where's the frost pic? :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
03-17-2005, 01:23 PM
quicksilverXP

Hey chilly 1, you never answered my second PM... I'll PM you again though.. I want to get one.
03-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

*drools*
wow. wow oh wow.
03-17-2005, 02:28 PM
Cossey

how many of these things are you churning out?

Quote:

Answer by chilly 1 Only 10 or 12 for now maybe more later gotta get a handle on the costs and the procedures I anm basically doing this to under stand what is invlved in the production of these and find ways to inmprove the process.
03-17-2005, 07:21 PM
Cpt Twitchy

Looking fantastic. Keep up the great work.
03-18-2005, 12:19 AM
lv_dicedealer

Chilly1-

have you assembled a dual setup for some Xeons yet? Maybe something along the lines of an autocascade (if that is what I think it is, Im just a D2OLer not really read up much on this)....

ps... I wouldn't have to pay shipping, right?
03-18-2005, 12:24 AM
charlie

1000000000000 x :slobber:
03-18-2005, 12:24 AM
chilly1

Quote:

Originally Posted by lv_dicedealer

Chilly1-

have you assembled a dual setup for some Xeons yet? Maybe something along the lines of an autocascade (if that is what I think it is, Im just a D2OLer not really read up much on this)....

ps... I would have to pay shipping, right?

PM me iof you wnat a quote. Buyt yes I have built a cascade capable of cooling a dual processor xeon.
03-18-2005, 12:37 AM
eva2000

just sooo beautiful indeed :D
03-18-2005, 08:58 AM
SPL15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cossey

how many of these things are you churning out?

A Basic quality control class at college would give you some really good tips/techiniques/theories on how to improve your process.

I've been studying six sigma and it has helped massively for making my process more efficient and I've reduced my 1 year warranty returns to 0.7% of the total output.

I've found that making a good database and with good queries with system parts, configurations, and costs has reduced my administrative work by 99%. All I gotta do is type in what is wanted by the customer, and the database does all of figuring out of what parts I need, how many are in stock, where they are located, who I get them from, costs of the parts, and a print out of the procedure and LOTS more. It's saved my butt many times.
03-18-2005, 09:15 AM
gkiing

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly1

PM me iof you wnat a quote. Buyt yes I have built a cascade capable of cooling a dual processor xeon.

Are you going to be trying out the autocascade scene chilly1?
03-18-2005, 10:52 AM
Levish

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPL15

I've found that making a good database and with good queries with system parts, configurations, and costs has reduced my administrative work by 99%. All I gotta do is type in what is wanted by the customer, and the database does all of figuring out of what parts I need, how many are in stock, where they are located, who I get them from, costs of the parts, and a print out of the procedure and LOTS more. It's saved my butt many times.

100% agree'd, takes time to setup but is so very helpful

Lots of uses too
03-18-2005, 01:35 PM
runmc

May I suggest a piece of copper grafted on the joint where the stainless steel flex meets the copper. :) The heat from brazing weakens the stainless flex. IMHO. If you can make it do it's bending away from that braze spot, I think you will have less problems. ;)

"Don't ask me how I know." :stick:
03-18-2005, 02:24 PM
SPL15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levish

100% agree'd, takes time to setup but is so very helpful

Lots of uses too

It's not possible to count the number of uses. A lot of work in setting up a database saves an invaluable amount of work (And money) in the future and saves your limited time. Doing administraitive work is non-value adding work, which means the less you have to do, the more time you have to do value adding work... Like assembling 50,000 single stage refrigeration systems :D .

I use the database for troubleshooting purposes by my technicians. I link to a server at my house with all of the databases stored on Raid 5 arrays. The possibilities are unlimited with good knowledge and imagination.

My Microsoft Office training has paid for itself over and over again. Highly recommend it if you start a business Chilly1. Also dont forget liability insurance... I've needed it several times. Have you started a LLC or a sole proprietorship yet? Sounds like you definitely have the demand for product :D !!! Keep up the good work!! Consider me a customer for the future!
03-18-2005, 06:28 PM
chilly1

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkiing

Are you going to be trying out the autocascade scene chilly1?

What make you think I havent? :D
03-18-2005, 06:33 PM
gkiing

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilly1

What make you think I havent? :D

how about some pics :stick: :D
03-18-2005, 06:46 PM
chilly1

a little more detail work

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/4.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/5.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/6.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/7.jpg

http://www.blairwing.com/images/Cases/8.jpg
03-18-2005, 06:50 PM
LostInSpace278

:slobber:

Since my artistic ability leaves a lot to be desired. I need to find me some case skins. Them there are perty!!!!! Nice job Chilly. I think you will have some very satisfied customers.
03-18-2005, 07:23 PM
Bloody_Sorcerer

OK, so just what is microfrostbyte?! x.x
Regardless of what it is, it is damn tiny O_O
03-18-2005, 07:51 PM
conrad.maranan

I know that silver one is mine. That thing is looking gangsta. :slobber: Is it engraved/laser-etched?
03-18-2005, 08:29 PM
jikdoc

i could fall asleep in that ring of phase change unit covers. really, i could. mind if i come over chilly/kazoo? i'll bring over my cat, he can help out with inspection duties.
03-18-2005, 08:53 PM
Nerm

looking good chilly1! I think I know which is mine. :D woot can't wait lol...keep the pics coming :)
03-19-2005, 06:42 AM
eviLRuLeZ

awesome work chilly1, really.. :)
03-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Marvin

These units are gorgeous... ;) ;)
It is a pity i live miles away ....
03-19-2005, 03:13 PM
M3taC0rT3X

Really gorgeus Chilly1 !!! :slobber: Keep'em comming :toast:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvin

These units are gorgeous... ;) ;)
It is a pity i live miles away ....

Doesn't matter were u are .. Chilly1 has sent cascades all across the world .. just PM him :P
03-19-2005, 03:48 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:D A new army of cold-bringers comes up to rule the world....... :toast:
03-20-2005, 01:30 AM
Wayway

yea I pm'd u Chilly Im getting one of these. lol and how long does it take to make it.
03-20-2005, 12:20 PM
scrible88

YGPM'd chilly!

These are amazing. Just stunning! Does it come with all mounting hardware and such?
03-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Skip

so what would be the cpu temps for a newcastle running 3.2ghz with 1.85 volts? or actually just generally for any cpu, what loaded temps should i expect for a max overclock with one of these.
03-20-2005, 02:10 PM
chilly1

Testing tomorrow more in a few.. Fugger has one and we are runing it to get Specs.
03-20-2005, 04:10 PM
MaxxxRacer

hope they do as well as your other rigs you've built. got any guesses as to what the evap temp will be?
03-20-2005, 05:47 PM
gkiing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer

OK, so just what is microfrostbyte?! x.x
Regardless of what it is, it is damn tiny O_O

Hey chilly1, can we see some pics of microfrostbyte.. please :stick: :stick: :stick: :D
03-21-2005, 07:19 AM
Bloody_Sorcerer

Any real-world stats on wattage dissipation, temps, etc? what about refrigerants used? I heard some speculation on page 1/2 but anything official yet?
03-21-2005, 08:48 AM
SPL15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer

Any real-world stats on wattage dissipation, temps, etc? what about refrigerants used? I heard some speculation on page 1/2 but anything official yet?

I'm With the Bloody Sorcerer. Although it may be difficult since it seams that Chilly1 is making these case by case specific to what the customer wants... I think I like the idea of a custom made system tuned to your system over a one size fits all design though. Plus it sounds like there can be a fair amount of variation/tolerance even with the same exact design from what I here about custom phase change in general.

Rated specs for refrigerant/compressor/load would be nice though. :D
03-21-2005, 08:53 AM
chilly1

Working n the first one now for specs. ZThey all will be different as there are a number of different compressors/voltages/configs.
03-21-2005, 11:01 AM
lalPOOO

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkiing

Hey chilly1, can we see some pics of microfrostbyte.. please :stick: :stick: :stick: :D

Since I am the proud soon to be owner I will tell you that it is just a "simple" single stage system :)
03-21-2005, 11:53 AM
gkiing

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalPOOO

Since I am the proud soon to be owner I will tell you that it is just a "simple" single stage system :)

Why is the case different then? Is it a chiller?
03-23-2005, 11:31 AM
n00by

Nerm, Lalpoo and Conrad lets some benches and load temps on your new xtreme toys!
03-23-2005, 12:20 PM
odb

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00by

Nerm, Lalpoo and Conrad lets some benches and load temps on your new xtreme toys!

i dont think they got them just yet
03-23-2005, 01:03 PM
Nerm

Quote:

Originally Posted by odb

i dont think they got them just yet

Well, I don't know about the others but I haven't gotten mine yet. But, don't worry nOOby I won't be shy posting scores with it once I get it lol. :)
03-23-2005, 05:01 PM
conrad.maranan

I'll reserve all benchmarking until the arrival of the FX-57. You'll probably see some LN2 action coming from my end as well. ;)
03-23-2005, 05:20 PM
lalPOOO

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00by

Nerm, Lalpoo and Conrad lets some benches and load temps on your new xtreme toys!

Don't worry about that, once it gets here I'll definitely be doing some benches :D
03-23-2005, 05:34 PM
REDKEN

Quote:

Originally Posted by conrad.maranan

What you don't see in the pics is my other case - a Lian-Li PC-75 with an integrated phase unit. :D

Now that is what I would like to see, since I have a PC-71 (basically the same). Where is the phase unit located?
I would really love to see how it looks and how much space is there after its installed.
I was thinking that the best place would be on the rear/top part of the case were the two PSU's go (with a simple elongated base) and have a push/pull shroud through the top of the case for the cooling? Is this the way that its setup?
Also, maybe I didn't understand right, but, are you using two phase units on the PC75?
03-23-2005, 05:37 PM
conrad.maranan

I should be receiving everything shortly. chilly1 is just working out some loose ends. I'll have one phase unit integrated inside the PC-75 and another one in its own box. This is going to be one tall system. :D

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