AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look

So are we going to see E-core FX-55 this month or not?

Thanks for the heads up look... :cool:

I think 32" sounds pretty good for a bone stock cpu/mem :D... this should be spot on with fx55 performance then shouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by STEvil

It doesnt.

A: Its intel.
B: AMD will be using dualcore.

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steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)
he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.

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Originally Posted by Gitsum

So are we going to see E-core FX-55 this month or not?

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if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.

Well since there have been ppl getting like 0507 130nm FX-55's I'd say the chance of getting a 90nm now are rather slim.

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Originally Posted by saaya

steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)
he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.



if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.

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FX-55 = 130nm
90nm = FX-57 = 90nm E0

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg
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Originally Posted by saaya

steven, he knows that! hes the author of CBID ;)

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Oh, woops :P

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he was referring to the HT related instructions in SSE3 wich have been speculated to get adopted by amd to regulate/control the two physical cores like intel controls the two virtual cores in ht with them.

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Thats funny.. donnie and saratoga couldnt stop telling me that doing something similar (ie: the exact same, in hardware) is wrong..

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if you wait a week you should know :D
SAE just got a confirmation that the fx55 he ordered in a german shop finally arrived and was sent out to him, i hope its an e3 core, very likely though as i dont think that shop ordered old 130nm stocks from somewhere.

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That'd be nice ;)

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Originally Posted by sxs112

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg
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if that the heatspreader?
looks a lot different :stick:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

if that the heatspreader?
looks a lot different :stick:

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http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9203/030316464ig.jpg
http://img188.exs.cx/img188/1631/030316459bj.jpg

nifty. i like the new box. :toast:

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4638/030316434ns.jpg

i think you need to remove the dust there, you should be more careful with your CPUs...

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Originally Posted by sxs112

http://img188.exs.cx/img188/9203/030316464ig.jpg
http://img188.exs.cx/img188/1631/030316459bj.jpg

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Excuse me... I need to go change... umm, seems like a release is imminent just a matter of how many weeks.

thats just awesome, thanks very much sxs, are those both 4200+'s?

Looks great. Any overclocking results yet?

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Originally Posted by c627627

Hello sxs112,

It does not make any marketing sense whatsoever for a 4200+ San Diego to have been produced in the first batch of Venice & San Diego CPUs that are now in the first weeks of production.

4200+ cannot coexist with FX-55, it can only do so with FX-57,
just like 2.4 GHz 4000+ 939 CH and 2.6 GHz Fx-55 939 CH are coexisting.

4200+ San Diego is (well, was earlier this year) a Q4 2005 product with limited availability toward the end of Q3 2005.

That's Fall 2005. Even if it's pushed up, we're just out of February 2005, way too early for any 4200+ San Diego.

Even if you have an Engineering sample, it may may not be as indicative as when multiple sources start reporting OC results from first real batches of them...


First Venice/San Diego CPUs should be here either later this month or early April 2005 which is not bad considering that earlier this year we expected them toward the end of Q2 2005 in limited quantities.

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No, the 4200+ is not a Q4 product. It was shown on older roadmaps as an early Q3 product. Moved forward perhaps due to success with Rev E 90nm parts.

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

nifty. i like the new box. :toast:

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Nah... that's the packaging AMD gives out to employee's and testers for their "beta" chips.

I used to know a guy who'd get a trunk load from of them from AMD and give them out to people as kind of a promotion.

That was way back when though... it appears the package them the same though.

Will this cpu have a newer, improved revision of the memory controller? that is better then whats with the winnies?

Heres fx57 which will be available from this Canadian retailer next week (only 6 pcs.) Price still TBD...

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Originally Posted by Orker

Will this cpu have a newer, improved revision of the memory controller? that is better then whats with the winnies?

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That is of course, what we are all hoping for. I'm fairly certain they will, but you never know. :toast:

off-topic, what's with 400+ veiwers on this board, I've never seen it that high.

other sites are probably linking to this thread.. i know there's one on the forums at [H], but that probably accounts for like 2 of those people :stick:

either way, i'm getting really anxious to see overclocking results of this and the turion

How much do you think the FX57 will retail for? Or will it retail around 899 and the price of 55s will drop? I'm anxious to buy, but not anxious to pay well above 1k for it...

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Originally Posted by quicksilverXP

How much do you think the FX57 will retail for? Or will it retail around 899 and the price of 55s will drop? I'm anxious to buy, but not anxious to pay well above 1k for it...

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I'm willing to bet it will play out like when the FX-55 came out. The FX-55 will be rebadged the 4200+, but with locked multi, and the FX-57 will be the lone FX chip in production. (This is assuming the FX-55 comes out in 90nm form before the FX-57 release, I doubt the 4200+ will be clawhammer)

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Originally Posted by Dumo

Heres fx57 which will be available from this Canadian retailer next week (only 6 pcs.) Price still TBD...

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That retailer has the "FSB" (i.e. Hypertransport) speed wrong. FX parts have been 1GHz since 939 launched, and the FX-57 will be no exception.

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Originally Posted by Orthogonal

That is of course, what we are all hoping for. I'm fairly certain they will, but you never know. :toast:

off-topic, what's with 400+ veiwers on this board, I've never seen it that high.

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We got linked by theINQ: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21646

Sorry, I couldn't help making this thread recursive... enjoy reading an article that is a summary of this thread!

there are also 90nm fx55 chips afaik, am i wrong? :confused:

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Originally Posted by computersmsa

FX-55 = 130nm
90nm = FX-57 = 90nm E0

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nobody has seen a 90nm FX55 yet... just lots of talk when the supply dried up.

wow... looks to be a very good chip. i know what im getting in my new system at the end of summer :D

Monarch is no longer showing a listing of any FX55 (not even saying out of stock ETA etc)! Something is about to happen.......lol

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Originally Posted by OC Detective

Monarch is no longer showing a listing of any FX55 (not even saying out of stock ETA etc)! Something is about to happen.......lol

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Also note that Monarch preemptively lowered the price of 3800+ and 4000+ CPUs... a release is imminent. Although... I'm just not sure what the release will be of yet at this point.

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Originally Posted by Ackbar

Also note that Monarch preemptively lowered the price of 3800+ and 4000+ CPUs...

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Not monarch.... AMD lowered 3800+ and 4000+ prices for a limited time.

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Originally Posted by Ratax

Not monarch.... AMD lowered 3800+ and 4000+ prices for a limited time.

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How can you be arguing with me when they say they lowered their price on their website? LOL I'm sure they lowered as a response to new prices from AMD, but that doesn't change the fact that they lowered them in the first place which was all that I was saying. Note that Monarch lowering their prices is not mutually exclusive to AMD doing so. :D

I hope this will push down the prices of the other FX chips, i mean the FX-51 still is 750 euro here :(

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Originally Posted by _Eduard_

I hope this will push down the prices of the other FX chips, i mean the FX-51 still is 750 euro here :(

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:D Hm - seems to be a really good shop keeper then......... :p:

:toast:

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Originally Posted by _Eduard_

I hope this will push down the prices of the other FX chips, i mean the FX-51 still is 750 euro here :(

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Prolly the prices will stay the same here, cause they are no longer made, so no need to lower the prices (Or to buy them for that case ;) )

I wonder what chip will appear, if AMD speeds everything up, there might not come an FX-55 .09nm right? :rolleyes:

The store prices might not go down that much, but you can be sure guys will probably be selling their FX55s etc to recoup the high costs of being an early adopter of the FX57. Might be best to get one that way. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by isp

The store prices might not go down that much, but you can be sure guys will probably be selling their FX55s etc to recoup the high costs of being an early adopter of the FX57. Might be best to get one that way. :thumbsup:

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:D You can be sure of that - wait a while till FX-57 will be released and You can buy mine...... :toast:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

why would amd suddenly start locking the downward multi's on their chips? i think it's still unlocked below stock for cool&quiet to work :toast:

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The only reason the downward multiplyers were unlocked was for "Cool and quite" Right? Everything i have read was in C&Q, is it dosnt work too well, and there no point to use it, as most A64s run pretty cool at full clocks, (stock speed) so why use it? Mabey AMD is going to drop cool and quite, thus not needing any multiplyer expect the stock one.

jsut a shot in the dark...

the 4200+ looks sweet... ohh my 3800+ seems so week... (it was free, AMD RMAed it to me to replace a 3500+ 90nm, i still feel ripped) ohh well...

yeah, i doubt they'd drop that though.. i know i use a form of it. it's nice to be able to have a 28c idle sometimes :toast:
(though that temp is most likely off as the bios reports 38c no matter what the clock/voltage/air temp is)

though, i'm beginning to think that the turion will be a much 'better' chip than these high end a64's purely because they'll be a lot cheaper and still overclock like mad.

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Originally Posted by I(illa Bee

Everything i have read was in C&Q, is it dosnt work too well, and there no point to use it, as most A64s run pretty cool at full clocks, (stock speed) so why use it? Mabey AMD is going to drop cool and quite, thus not needing any multiplyer expect the stock one.

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Everything you have read is wrong, then. :)

C&Q works very well, and far from dropping it, it is being enhanced. It makes a big difference when idling/running low-stress applications (think: Word).

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Originally Posted by terrace215

Everything you have read is wrong, then. :)

C&Q works very well, and far from dropping it, it is being enhanced. It makes a big difference when idling/running low-stress applications (think: Word).

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Hmm thats cool, i dont use C&Q my self as overclcoking with it is no good, but well have to see, if a fully locked core comess out then i would have to say C&Q probely wont work correctly lol

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=55393

more fx57 infos! looks like it might come soon but in q2, so amd will release the 4200+ before the fx57! thats the first time they dont do a double release like they did with all former fx chips (55 4000 53 3800 ...)

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Originally Posted by saaya

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=55393

more fx57 infos! looks like it might come soon but in q2, so amd will release the 4200+ before the fx57! thats the first time they dont do a double release like they did with all former fx chips (55 4000 53 3800 ...)

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That will be very odd, to not release them in a pair.

Just read the link... ehhh. Xbit quoting "some sources" which are obviously confused.

More of that vr-zone error spreading around, I think.

There is no way they release a 4400+ in Q2. That would be the FX-57 equivalent, requiring an FX-59 on the market. Makes no sense at all.

Given that error, one doubts the rest of it.

If the pictured part here was an engineering sample, Q2 (April, say) may actually be the likely launch for the 4200+ (and probably also the FX-57 at the same time.)

:banana4: WOW, Well I'm sure everybody noticed that amd 64 4200+ was not listed as such, it is listed in post as 2200+. xsx states bios carries on error to display wrong reading, if I read that post correctly. However, when bios gives lower read out than actual unit its because something is very wrong, usually clock rate is set way too low.(as it won;t display number above actual processor model, that & only lower numbers display). Are you sure thats really true test read out & not some "imaginative" forward looking towards amd 64 4200+. Or that what you had is not working correctly, however its frequency is at correct ~reading, so whats explanation, make bios read 4200+ if it is one or maybe you got hucked too. I think you just cann't trust entire test.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M. :slobber: D.

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:banana4: WOW, Well I'm sure everybody noticed that amd 64 4200+ was not listed as such, it is listed in post as 2200+. xsx states bios carries on error to display wrong reading, if I read that post correctly. However, when bios gives lower read out than actual unit its because something is very wrong, usually clock rate is set way too low.(as it won;t display number above actual processor model, that & only lower numbers display). Are you sure thats really true test read out & not some "imaginative" forward looking towards amd 64 4200+. Or that what you had is not working correctly, however its frequency is at correct ~reading, so whats explanation, make bios read 4200+ if it is one or maybe you got hucked too. I think you just cann't trust entire test.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M. :slobber: D.

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Dear all:
the whole test was done on a sample MB, which Bios version was not even over 1.XX yet, there was no options in bios that he can adjust for OC. The CPU fan used in the test was for P4 3.0EG (Sanyo Denki, 0.44A) . All I know is that the CPU stays at very low temperature during the whole test. I'm just happen to be a person who knows the tester. BTW, he just had it on hand for very short time, that's another reason why no other test done. Please just read the information but don't.... I hope you guys can realise it. Thanks :)

@Andy.....Thanks for the clarification and welcome to XS Thomasxstewart and Andyhuang0308 :toast: Now, when is the ETA for this cpu? ;)

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Originally Posted by Dumo

@Andy.....Thanks for the clarification and welcome to XS Thomasxstewart and Andyhuang0308 :toast: Now, when is the ETA for this cpu? ;)

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Yes I would love to have an ETA :D

In fact, when he 1st time got that CPU on hand, the tester had no idea what he had.... lol it's because of the strange CPU-Z that made him want to ask sxs122 for help.... XD
So an ETA?.... I will have to say, sorry O_Q

Well, at least if 1 already out then 1k more on the way :D

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Originally Posted by VVJ

sxs112, do you know how many physical cores does your Athlon64 have? By the way, you may use Central Brain Identifier tool to get much more specific information on your AMD processor. I’ve just added for you an option to retrieve a maximum case temperature directly from the processor. Probably, you have already known that this feature was implemented in all D0 and higher AMD64 processors and it represents the highest die temperature. Here’s the link http://cbid.amdclub.ru/files/cbid74t.zip

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That version says my Mobile 754 has SSE2... is that right?

Yeah, a64 has sse2

there is a new test on http://forum.coolaler.com/....
with lower Volt at SPD speed, and an OC result.
if any one interest in that, can go on & see for yourself.

How we supposed to know what thread to click on!

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Originally Posted by OC Detective

How we supposed to know what thread to click on!

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the title is this:"xxU亂亂測~"
look for the above words should can help you on this :)

On the main page that you provided the link for?
OK found it - thread started by Jeffchen right?

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Originally Posted by OC Detective

On the main page that you provided the link for?
OK found it - thread started by Jeffchen right?

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that's right, sir :)
the right direction is:
look for "新品測試區" <---which means "new stuff test"
then look for "xxU亂亂測~" <--thread started by Jeffchen
above.

Here:
http://www.coolaler.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=43303
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2.85Ghz at 1.4V, 2.6GHz at 1.25V - not bad at all - looks like Smartguardian or him have got the temps/probes out of whack as he shows a greater RPM for his fan on the chipset than his cpu yet much higher temps.

Whats up with the ppl's avatars in the forum lol, its either dogs or gundams. At any rate, it would nice to see some sandra cpu runs at stock ;) I have a feeling no one's going to buy the 57 this time around if the 4200+ is looking this good :O

Perkam

I talked to a 'PR' person @AMD Sunnyvalle today...and yes 4200 and FX57 release is imminent. Off course he can't give ETA :)...And no comment on FX55 90nm...
Probly they still busy with this...http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ma...ges=PR&seq=202

If the FX57 is imminent then there cant be a FX55 90nm.

OC, Yes you're right and come to think about it...4200 will replace 55 like 4000 to 53.

Exactly - obviously upping the ante after Intels developer forum to try and get back some publicity.

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Originally Posted by Dumo

OC, Yes you're right and come to think about it...4200 will replace 55 like 4000 to 53.

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I agree with that as well, but what about the 4400+ due out later this year? It certainly won't replace the FX-57... will it :confused:

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Originally Posted by Dumo

I talked to a 'PR' person @AMD Sunnyvalle today...and yes 4200 and FX57 release is imminent. Off course he can't give ETA :)...And no comment on FX55 90nm...
Probly they still busy with this...http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Ma...ges=PR&seq=202

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April 4th is the Venice launch date. April 15 for San Diego.

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Originally Posted by OC Detective

2.85Ghz at 1.4V, 2.6GHz at 1.25V -

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I wonder if this is with stock cooling... I am sure it could take 1.6v on air no prob... that should net 3000 maybe 3100

Obvously next step is to see if it likes phase...

:stick: At least some partners of chipmaker Advanced Micro Devices have received AMD Athlon 64 4200+ microprocessor which is made using 90nm process technology and sports numerous enhancements over currently available Athlon 64 4000+ and FX-55 models.

A Chinese web-site’s forum member has posted what he claimed to be a benchmark result of the AMD Athlon 64 4200+ processor as well as a screenshot from a microprocessor identification program which could not correctly determine the brand-name of the product, but could reveal its specifications. At press-time the pictures were available over XtremeSystems.org and Digital-Info web-sites.

AMD’s Athlon 64 4200+ processor is clocked at 2.60GHz, contain 1MB of L2 cache and sport dual-channel PC3200 memory controller, copying major specs of the currently shipping AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 processor for Socket 939 infrastructure. However, the Athlon 64 4200+ is made using 90nm fabrication processor, sports SSE3 instructions as well as minor memory controller enhancements. Potentially, the chip may also fit into lower thermal envelope than the FX-55 model. AS GHZ DIDN'T INCREASE LETS GUESS ITS FX-57 AT 90NM. IN OTHER WORDS GETTING MORE FROM SMALLER SCALE AS STATED BY ALLEN (above from tech connect yesterday), YET IS IT? OR IS IT REALLY HAVE FEW MORE MULTIPLIERS (ASSEMBLY LINES) WAITING TO BE TURNED ON? ALSO I'VE NOTICED POST OF STOLEN/COUNTERFEIT PROCESSORS FROM AMD SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE NEW PROCESSOR WAS ANNOUNCED.AMD SPOKESPERSON DOES CLAIM FX-57 IS "IMMINANT" IN ANOTHER NEWS ARTICLE TODAY WHERE SOMEONE CALLED AMD (MAYBE FROM THIS THREAD). :cool:
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D.

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Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D.

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Thanks for putting your credentials in your post! :up:

Just so everyone knows, I've got a M.D., 2 PhD's, 3 MS's, and a JD. :toast:
BTW- working on the 3rd PhD right now, but this is not to gloat. I just wanted everyone to know how smart I am.

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I just wanted everyone to know how smart I am.

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Thanks, man. I think I speak for everyone when I say that we all appreciate our new knowledge! :D ;)

So if it's 90nm, and so very small as 90nm chips are, does anything think AMD is going to release a 2MB L2 cache FX CPU soon?

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Thanks for putting your credentials in your post! :up:

Just so everyone knows, I've got a M.D., 2 PhD's, 3 MS's, and a JD. :toast:
BTW- working on the 3rd PhD right now, but this is not to gloat. I just wanted everyone to know how smart I am.

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i have 2 cats... does that count?

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Just so everyone knows, I've got a M.D., 2 PhD's, 3 MS's, and a JD. :toast:
BTW- working on the 3rd PhD right now, but this is not to gloat. I just wanted everyone to know how smart I am.

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What subjects and how old are you man?!!

My tadpole turned into a frog today... does that count for something? :D

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What subjects and how old are you man?!!

My tadpole turned into a frog today... does that count for something? :D

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Guys... I was kidding... :D

If I did have all those degrees, I definitely wouldn't be advertising it, just the way I am.

I've got a few upper level degrees... but not that many! :eleph:

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So if it's 90nm, and so very small as 90nm chips are, does anything think AMD is going to release a 2MB L2 cache FX CPU soon?

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As long as their performance lead goes unchallenged (as it is now), I doubt they will add cache.

Usual supsects: larger die, less cores per wafer, slightly larger thermal envelope, etc...

:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

Thx for your support, Thomas. BTW, road news I just heard today, Tyan already testing the dual-core 940 CPUs with their NV Dual CPU MB in their office, TPE. The testing goes well with 32bits/64bits XP, Unix and others. softwares is well to run under O/S too. the MB using two NV chips as I heard. 8131 & 8XXX I couldn't remember well. sorry about that.

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:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

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It might just be that english isn't my first language, but that post was damn confusing...

i'm a physician, but i'm not as weird as thomasxstewart. while i was reading that post, a few bars of the 'twilight zone' jingle kept repeating in my head. please keep posting, i'm intrigued.

back on topic, i think the major thing everyone on this site is interested in with the fx57 is it's compatibility with subzero cooling. if the price on these chips weren't so outrageously high, i'd take a chance to test one out.

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It might just be that english isn't my first language, but that post was damn confusing...

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At least i'm not the only one :D

So has AMD just given up on the whole "939 A64's will be 512k parts" philosophy?

When (if at all?) will we see cheaper 2.6ghz / 512k parts?

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So has AMD just given up on the whole "939 A64's will be 512k parts" philosophy?

When (if at all?) will we see cheaper 2.6ghz / 512k parts?

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I dont think we will see these pieces until 2600mhz becomes "mid-range" which is not going to be before the shrink to 65nm. Just speculation!
AMD's road map seems to fall of the face of the earth after 2005. Could this mean the end of the world? :stick:

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I dont think we will see these pieces until 2600mhz becomes "mid-range" which is not going to be before the shrink to 65nm. Just speculation!
AMD's road map seems to fall of the face of the earth after 2005. Could this mean the end of the world? :stick:

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As long as I can get my hands on a cheap Venice and they OC like I've heard they can, I don't really care :D

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As long as I can get my hands on a cheap Venice and they OC like I've heard they can, I don't really care :D

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Nobody has a venice sofar i have seen so you cant now how the oc?

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Nobody has a venice sofar i have seen so you cant now how the oc?

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I don't know, I'm just going off of hearsay and rumors.

I just heard from my supplier that I will get an FX55 on tuesday (while there are 50 in backorder) How can this be?

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well amd's roadmap shows Venice going to at least 2.8GHz so its natural we can assume those to overclock to at least that with subsquent batches only improving from there and hitting over 3GHz. as for that fx55, it may be 130nm, avoid it, get a fx57 shortly!

What tells you that this is a Rev E A64 4200+, as opposed to a Rev E FX-55?

Did AMD indicate this was a sample for the former?

They have the same characteristics, other than overclocking locking.

I ask because a 4200+ part implies an FX-57 part at the same time,(to keep up the FX "fastest part" reputation) but if this is just the 90nm Rev E FX-55, there is no such implication.

Terrace, the cpuid value for the Rev E San Diegos is finalised at 20F71 this ES is 20F70 so I guess it could be either as it is clearly an early sampling.

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lol - words...

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Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

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Well - the arrogance is strong with this one.

edit - you would think, being a doctor, that you might be able to correctly spell 'medicine'. Once, and I'd take it as a typo - but twice? :confused:

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:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

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low votle

Yeah, the CPUID isn't going to help here, as really, there is NO DIFFERENCE (but for overclocking locked/unlocked) between the 4000+ and the FX-53, the 4200+ and the FX-55, and the 4400+ and the FX-57.

They are the same parts.

So the question is, did the sample come with any documentation that suggested how AMD was going to label it?

If they are sampling it as a 4200+, it implies they have an FX-57 about to launch with it.

If they are sampling is as the Rev E 90nm FX-55, it doesn't imply that.

We've been assuming it is the 4200+. I was hoping there was some basis for that assumption, and that sxs might comment.

it is a revE K8-939 CPU (F13140 D43NK00) .....that's all I can tell....

I need a bigger wallet

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Don't we all? ;)

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i have 2 cats... does that count?

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:) Well I just read that 5april '05 will be day of introduction of new amd processors from AMD & fx-57/4200+ is believed to be amoung them. It is clearly admitted that new units will need bios update from mainboard 939 pin manufacurer, so i am confidant that first test pages show are accurate & true, I kind of figured that, yet as I too stated, bios dosn't report unknown (more modern than bios) processors correctly.
Study of mediciene is most important art to civilazation, oh sure there are millions of nvr'do wells who have ideas of self importance, Hon means killing with smile, phd means "cheatring is possible, I have no idea about subject", Rev. means I found new group of suckers, JD means i got caught at mediciene & want that hon. Judges ass. etc. So I'm use to profane comments. I am MEDICAL DOCTOR by GOVENORS' SIGNATURE. Its little differnt than you think, yet spare cats & tadpoles may go together, CHEMISTRY is prime subject of mediciene.I could go on, yet put L word on those who hate.
FX-59 is believed to be end of line for fx series, as dual core is so near. So fx-57 is mainly moving to 90 nm process & basicly entire fx series is about to retire from forefront within 6 months or so.I am glad sxs112 shared very confidential information.Keep letting us know so we can all keep count of whole trading bin of "DOCTOR" stuff, people.
Signed:Physician Thomas Stewart Von Drashek M.D. :toast:

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Obviously your M.D. isn't anything remotley relating to the English language

the 4200+ and fx57 will be san diego rev E4 and i think they will be released around april 15th, sorry if this is not news, but the last posts of this thread look like you didnt know it was a san diego rev E4. :D

thnk the 4200 will hit 3.2 under a mach1 or should I go for the fx-57?

"hit" meaning max screenshot speed? the 3800+ venice already did 3.5ghz on a mach2 gt for a screenshot :D

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"hit" meaning max screenshot speed? the 3800+ venice already did 3.5ghz on a mach2 gt for a screenshot :D

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:confused: Where ??? :toast: