03 gti here, its fun but i already want to mod it :)
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03 gti here, its fun but i already want to mod it :)
that exhaust is fake
i want a mustang at 2.6ghz
My dad got an H2 Hummer with maxed out options.... its pretty damn sweet
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Out with the POS Single Cam
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In with the new 180hp DOHC :)
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it´s a VW Touareg
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what engine is that? integra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil XP2400
gorgeous civic =]
how does it perform?
Heh, and 8 years ago I never thought I'd see people driving around in Army Jeeps.... who knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Civic *snickers*Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
Why are kids obsessed with Civics? Sadly, the Japanese Automakers really don't know how to exploit engine power. I don't know how many cars I've driven with empty horsepower... Enough to satisfy a kid who thinks that its all about the HPs.
I like my 3.8. Its only rated at 200HP, but I dare you to compare a 3.1, 3.5, and a 3.8 at 200HP. You'll see the difference. It has low end torque that will rip your typical Japmobile's overhead cam configuration a new ass hole.
Not that a DOHC ain't a great engine. :p The Solstice has a good little EcoTec that has some pretty impressive stats for a 2.2 4C. But there ain't nothing wrong with a good DOHV. Never under estimate an engine just because its a "push rod." :p
But really... I'm a big fan of the LS series engines they use in the Corvette, GTO, and the Grand Prix GXP; LS2 and LS4 respectively if you don't know. One beautifully engineered motor.
VTECs are quality! (Revving at 9000+ RPM!) Jap engines are very tune-able, top notch engines.
I like that Integra (next on my list ;)), mmmm Type R...
:D Myself had a problem at the carwash yesterday - think water was too hot............. :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/2966/smallcar3xq.jpg
:toast:
i love the type-r....ahh i just wish my parents bought me an gs-rQuote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
yep vtec engines are sweet. once you hit that rpm you get a boost in speed
stewie: people are obsess with civics because their cheap and you can do a lot of modifications on it + they look nice unlike your american cars.. :banana:
lol, there are loads of nice American cars! Just a shame they are usually guzzlers :DQuote:
Originally Posted by calcal
Petrol prices have just hit 1GBPound per litre out here, so they are a no go! :(
Funny, if you look at the statistics, GM has more 30+ MPG cars than Honda... If anyone actually spend time reading about it, instead of trusting what the competitor says.
But its funny, a cheap little Honda Civic is a nice looking car.... *snickers*
My 3800 Block is an inspiration from a long past engine. It originated in an old Buick Racing engine. Its evolution has brought it to its current, and now upgraded state of a 3.9 Block with some pretty tight controls. (Not my block, but the block in general by GM)
I've driven many different cars, and I am most satisfied with the revs I get out of my 3.8 and the speed. That's why I bought it.
Anyone that knows what they're doing can mod the hell out of any engine. But kids think that adding a new exhaust pipe without matching the headers, or doing ANYTHING to the manifold gives them more power. They sound like they're farting on down the road.
Then they add these huge tall double wings, or singles... without noticing that their car can't possibly go fast enough to need one; its just slowing them down and creating the wrong kind of drag.
Its not just civics, I don't want to be too biased. It goes for Dodge Neons, Chevy Cavaliers, and all of those little cheap cars that kids buy and turn into ricers. They think they know how to squeeze out power. They are accessorizers; when dealing with REAL engine work; they aint got a clue.
I only wish I had the money to spend on my car that way. The real stuff is expensive. The cheap copies all over the market are for people who are minus a clue.
LOL thats a good one heheQuote:
Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
It looks pretty slick in that blue. Although I'm not a BMW fan, if I won one, I'd sell it and get something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblethumper
^ :spam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie007
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to say that I wasn't into BMWs.Quote:
Originally Posted by calcal
:bs:
rice bashing lol take a stock viper versus a hopped up crx both at same hp, crx will win, it is lighter, tha's why jap cars don't need torque, but if you need to be snotty even my corolla builds max torque @ 3300rpm which is quite low. even though i did not tune my car or anything like it, i'm sure if properly tuned i could take your car out without too many problems
To get that horsepower you'd need an engine twice as heavy or more than yours. :p Wouldn't be so light anymore with an 8.0 Liter would it now? :p
But you gotta understand the mechanics of an engine. That HP rating is at the cam, not the wheels. If it doesn't have a good drive train, and its cam gets say 300 HP, you won't be getting all of that at the wheels. Chrystler has an 8.0 Liter in their Viper, and it can only barely beat a corvette that had a 5.7. That should tell you right there that there's more to it than Horsepower.
Wish someone would tell Dodge that...
Flywheel, not the camshaft.
:slap:
Yeah, you're right. :p
But still, what I was saying is still a valid point. The actual measurement of a car's power that is most accurate is the Horsepower at the Wheels. :)
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Originally Posted by bubblethumper
Ok Bubble..now ILL play
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93 J-spec Turbo 626 380hp to the wheel's on pump gas (ill lay a nice 50' patch of rubber for ya some time's and post my pic's) 0-60 sux due to breaking traction.
1977 Limited edition Corvett L-88 Factory 6" chrome side pipe's 500HP Bill Miller racing engine.
0-60 Fast enuff to drop panties :D
380HP to the wheels? What the heck do you got in there? And why is it in a... 626?
Quite the sleeper :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewie007
What's inside?
I've got a red 1985 BMW 325e.....mint condition. 'Tis a beauty. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow if I remember to take one. I'm also getting a 160k mile 2001 Civic from my dad I think...it's silver and boring, I reckon it will be a good daily driver though, especially in the winter.
J spec 2.0l block, Fully filled, .080 over,arias forged piston's,destroked and nitrated crank (-.300) help's make up for the bad rod x stroke geometry,Billet rod's,soft lobe cam's Thank's to Comp cam's,440cc injector's,56mm throttle body,tube header down to turbo,blitz boost controller,"soon to add tractic traction controller",progressive Nitrous controller,2mm larger Stainless steel intake valves 1mm larger on the exhaust,oil impregnated valve guides,no valve seal's,ported polished head by me,.030 copper head gasket,Jap 5 speed tranny, force 1 2 stage 4 pad street/strip clutch. :stick:
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:dj: :rocker:
Nitrous and traction controller will be the next best upgrade's fo sho!
Civic VTEC Engine has the highest power to weight ratio in the world (of any production car engine) Check out the Top Gear Episode w/ the Ariel Atom Pretty impressive what it does w/ 1/3rd the stock weight. They say it puts more to the ground than the EnzoQuote:
Originally Posted by Stewie007
Hey Stew...wana race your car next to mine? my little DOC 16 valve 626 would eat that 3800 of your's and still stay under 7k rpm and ill launch at any rpm u want me to ;)
Mine's stock and yours isn't. Let me put some upgrades in first, then we'll see who's got muscle in their car hehehe.
You can't just hop up an engine, and then compare it to a stock engine. You've gotta hop up both engines. Odds are, if it couldn't catch the other at stock, it aint gonna catch it when its maxed out.
Either way, thats alot you got in that 626... :p I'd just rather have it for me grand prix... I'm not into Hondas, etc.... or BMWs etc...
If I won a BMW I'd sell it. :p
Sure bro :) u do what ya need to your ride and all ill do is step on the gas a little more ;)
Im looking for some one here thta has a digi cam corder...then ill go to a parking lot and have some fun for you guy's...mmm laying rubber on cam..kina excites me :woot:
3800ccs gives me alot more potential than your 2000, sadly. :) But the point is really irrelevant, since I have not the money to do such things. I'm savin it for my next car. :p:
So I can only say that your 626 is pretty dang impressive, but otherwise it needs a paint job :D
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Originally Posted by Stewie007
Torque at the wheels :slap: :slapass:
Which, by the way, the Horsepower trace on a dyno is a direct influence on.
my car inside
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my car outside
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the new trunk of my car
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and my best friend grand cherooke
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and for stewie007 japanes cars are way better than americans, american cars after 2 year you have to throw them japanes cars can last 10 15 years easly...
and there are some high HP japanes cars like mazda rx7 mazda rx8 toyota supra acura rsx honda nsx honda 2000 nissan skyline gt r 34 lancer evo mitsu eclipse mitsu 3000gt vr 4 mitsu galant vr 4 nissan 350z
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Originally Posted by BB mods's
OMG!! a 77 LE L-88. The best looking car of all time! A design so far ahead of its time! I love it.
For gods sake what is it doing outside? You can see the sun damage. TAKE CARE OF THIS BABY!!!
BB lets see a full shot with both of those hoods popped
-CaT
2 years? Funny, I own a 2000 Grand Prix, my parents an 01 Le Sabre.... Previous cars...Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
Old Chevy Celebrity - my dad never took care of it, yet it still lasted 10 years before my bro took it over, then another 3 years. Funny... Seems to have beaten your 2 year theory by 11 years....
Buick Century - Leased it for 3 years. But the condition it was in when we turned it in was really quite excellent. My dad took care of this one, and it did us very well.
Chevy Lumina - The only thing that could take this one off the road was a collision in the rear. Totalled, and replaced with a rather inferior Volkswagen Passat, 96. Needless to say it had 108,000 miles on it, and with good maintenance, that engine would have lasted a good long time. We would have still had it today.
Buick LeSabre - Got it in 2001, and still today it drives like new.
Pontiac Grand Prix - This one's mine, and obviously its only 5 years old. Gave it a 60,000 mile tune up, and she gets routine oil changes. No problems here.
Aunt and Uncle had an old Buick LeSabre... I think it was a 90, they just recently got rid of it. Didn't break down, they just wanted something else.
For the Bad - We had an Olds Cutlass that never ran very well. It sucked rotten :banana::banana::banana::banana:. No wonder Olds is gone now.....
Oh, and I forgot to mention the old 77 Caprice we had that was 14 years old before. Bought it used, and it still ran just fine. Sure, it could have used a major tune up. But the fact is it needed no major maintenance.
So, all that said. Japanese cars sure are quality cars, there's no arguing that. If it weren't for them, the American Auto Industry would have never gotten to where it is today. So I think you need to get your ass out of the 70s and realize that this is 2005. I get tired of hearing old men at work talk about their Toyotas, and then go and say "American cars just don't last." The last time they drove one was in 1985... Funny how you can form an opinion with a 20 year gap.... I bet you formed yours by hear-say.
Sorry for double post but after 2 years you have to throw an american car out? Damn dude you are so ignorant if you actually think that. Just as many crap jap cars have rolled off the line as american cars. Take the Nissan DET and DETT for example, have fun at 100,000 miles when your turbos wear out. I know many people with fords, chevys, dodges, etc with more than 200,000 miles on them still running strong, so i wouldnt make such bold statments if i were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
10-15 years? you are being silly. There' no car on the face of the earth that will do that kind of time with me driving it. In terms of repairs per 1000 vehicles, the top three manufacturers in the world as measured by JD powers are separated by a couple per cent... Toyota, Honda, DaimlerChrysler...with the most reliable Chrysler being the PT Cruiser...
I have a Black PT Cruiser Turbo and a Durango...both great vehicles. I'd buy a Toyota, but I hate sacrificing horse power and getting charged more. I figure I can drive anything right into the ground in about four or five years...
if you offer me a civic or a corolla, I'd say they might last a long time because they are so bloody slow nothing wears out. I'd rather take the bus.
Compared some cars on JD..
This is what I came up with....
Overall Quality:
Buick Le Sabre - 5 Stars
Lexus (cant remember model) - 5 Stars
Pontiac Grand Prix - 4 Stars
Buick Lacrosse - 4 Stars
Nissan Altima - 3 Stars
Honda Civic - 3 Stars
Toyota Corolla - 3 Stars
Mitsubishi Galant - 3 Stars
Pontiac G6 - 3 Stars
Got alot of American cars beating out these Japanese cars here... You can check them, I'm not lying. They're all 05 models. And they're standard models too, obviously. Because no civic I know of is going to compete with a Grand Prix GXP, or GTP's features; even a GT. I don't like though how no one seems to care about OnStar... That alone trumps any of these features I see in other cars. Strangely Cadillac seems to be at the bottom rungs... BMW ain't at the top of their game either. Lexus has almost all 5 stars.. Suzuki and Infinity are abismal...
Fancy electronics and a few bells and whistles can't beat having a person call you when your airbags deploy, and sending help if needed. Directing you to where you need to go if you're lost. The personal touch works even better than digital maps sometimes. Unlocking your car doors remotely for you when you call in telling them ya locked em in. You're stuck with your Altima... gotta get a lock smith, or call home for the second set of keys.
I don't know if I trust JD Power's though... they seem biased towards Lexus.. :p: Although, only 1 Infinity came out as mechanically sound. The other 2 models came out as... "The Rest" 2 Stars. The FX Series, and QX56... Not very mechanically sound apparently.. :p
Jap car's have crap model's same with american car's...i own both type's and got lucky,Ill get some more pic's when the weather get's better.
old american cars are actually quite good make to last newer ones specially from chevrolet are crap my family had 4 blazers and after two year or 3 years you have to repair the WHOLE front train cuz it sux, and for the other side you can see in my garage one toyota corolla 1994 that is PERFECT no problems and next to it a land cruiser 1988 that bastard after 700000km can still run i dont know how but it does it
but actually i can see daily some newer fords like the fiesta and focus and the chevrolet blazer, corsa, astra really bad after a couple of years runing in the other side you can see lots of corolla 1994 running out there very cheap to repair them....
lexus is japaness and i dont know where you found those ratings no bmw at the top or audi or VW no mercedez?????? those cars are the best of the best i wont change my moms bmw 545i for nothing in the world
Civic's are old granny shopping carts, they are also extremely ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by illmatik
Oh yeah, IMO.
By god, there's more stereotypes in here than at a audiobahn festival.
You're surprised the VW isn't at the top? They are NOT the best of the best. They're actually low end Euro cars. You cannot compare a BMW to VW... not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
I found these ratings at JD Powers, I did say JD..
I know Lexus is Japanese....
And by the way, you CANT change your moms BMW 545i for anything in the world... She'd murder you if you tried hehe. But these are just ratings done by JD Powers based on statistics. The point I'm trying to convey is that all manufacturers have their problems, not just the US Industry. That's just poppy:banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Granny Shopping carts that kids happen to be obsessed with... :p They're usually all beat up... I'm a detail freak too, so if I customize my car, its gotta be presentable, otherwise I've wasted my time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SewerSide
HEY!!!!!!!! Chill out guy's......me and Stewie007 were just playing with each other......let it rest..
Well actually BB, this was in reference to what someone else said. :)
I think they know who's car would win in a fight anyways.... :p: ehehe
I know stew but this cant keep going on...Stew's car is beautifull..mine has had to many track wreck's and is ugle..my vett is pretty but cost to much to drive..im a broke white boy that eat's chip's all day because i cant get a date...mmmmmk so shhhhh b4 Kazoo get's on us for flaming.
i know VW are cheap cars but they are better cars than many cheap american cars and they have nice cars no just the ugly VW new bettle
I see your problem. You've gotta put everyone elses car down because you think your's is the greatest car in the world. Everyone else is also a complete idiot; for example we all believe that the VW Beetle is the only car in the VW Arsenal. Why don't you go get a boner over your car now. No one's saying its a piece of :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I'm simply saying that American cars are not either.
And people wonder why I stay away from anything other than GM..... Its the attitude that people have that makes me avoid them.
Easy stew.....take it easy.....
RRaarRR! RUFFF! RARR RARRRR! ERRRR ARRRRRARR RRR RARRRR!!!!!!
:p:
i dont have the best car in the world 4 me the best car in the world is a ferrari enzo or bugatti or lamborghini or something like that
for me i have this list: european cars from germany and italy
japanesse cars
american cars
rest of the world
but is just my opinion and my experience with cars i have a fiat that is 35 years old and i have a toyota that is 17 years old and i have another toyota that is 11 years old and they all run great and the blazer had 2 years we changed the front train :S so for my experience is that i dont like the american cars i wont lie to you i love mustangs corvettes camaros but the normal cars i really dont like thems
"Runs great." Heard that before...
*turn the key*
Vroom!!! Vroo-hic hic- klank BOOM! Vroom... Mummm mumm hic hic kang kling klank.... hic hic....BOOM! :D
I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna argue about it anymore. You just keep editing your opinion. :p:
BAD stew! bad!...now get over to my house and grab a drum of 507 to play with!
You got it ready yet? :p:
I got the gas..problem is i dont have my recovery machine on hand to move the gas to the can for u!
Pics of the hood popped on both cars? I wanna see that detroit steel and that tokyo tin!
-CaT
Tokyo Tin..... hehehe
Try to keep it on topic boys, this isn't a japanese/euro/american pissing contest, this is a 'what car is ur own' thread.
im only 15, but i plan on getting a 93' mustang cobra. gotta love the fox body! my dad drives a focus 3dr thats stock, 2.3l. i might get a universal sc kit for it. also he just got 2001 galant. i havent seen it, but all i know is its from an auction and has subs in the trunk lol.
1989 cavalier z24 red with silver ground fx and a 2.8 liter v6 :)
CSL by the look of the wheels and the spoiler.Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblethumper
If it is - nice track car :D
Btw.. CSL = M3 with better handling and a lot less weight.
Currently drive a little old Saxo.. however I'm currently in the process of test driving cars:
* Saab 93 2.0t Aero - test driven.. not too bad.
* Alfa Romeo GT - next to test drive.. rather beautiful italian car.. hopefully the electrics are ok!
* BWM E46 330d - old barn stormer but BMWs are the most common car in the UK.
* Audi A3/4 - although ok these always strike me as dull.. we'll have to see.
and heres my car.
Its a BMW 545i with M-Sportpackage.
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/9806bmw1.JPG
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Actually, the M3 is not a CSL. It's an M3 with the ZCP (competition package). The package includes CSL Brakes, CSL wheels, CSL ebrake and steering wheel, CSL steering rack, Interlagos Blue Metallic exterior, and the CSL's "track mode" button.
MM BMW... lemme go get my blasting caps... :p:
personaly I borrow my pops car till I can get my hands on a caddy. He drives around in a 2002chevy astro. Awsome van/truck whatever it is. managed to burn ruber in it. This thing acelerates like crazy for what it is, suprising realy. My pop drove it with about 3600lb of bricks in it before and while the car wadled around the engine did not seem stressed and I had no problems on the highway at about 65mph. It took a while to stop but he was carefull.
Anyway. im a american iron kind of guy. And to put my two cent in about amrican cars falling apart after a fiew years is total BS. I personaly know of at least two 1/2 million mile+ 15+ year old cars with no problems and they dont stuter either. Both of em are fords and withought looking at the odometer you would never guess the milage. Chevy astros are know to be exelent work vehicles known to hit well over 300k miles while doing heavy work. its not uncomon for a well built gm or ford to go for well over 1/2million miles withought ever taking anything apart exept for normal maintenance and tuneups.
also someone posted that a civic with the same hp as a viper would eat the viper up. I would sugest you look into the old hot rod magasine articles. I recall an article that they built two 500hp cars. one was a buick and one was a honda. The honda cost well over 4times the money to get 500hp and neded high octane race gas to make the whole 500hp and the buick neded pump gas to make 500hp. The buick beat it with no problems weign in at almost twice the weight.
Your litle motor will develop 500hp but it will not make more than 350lb of tourque. a large motor will match hp and tourque and the tourque line is flat. By the time your motor has hit high enough rpm to provide the tourque neded the large motor is alredy down the line. High rpm motors are also very unpredictable when cornering if your arguing weight to power ratio and handling. Remember kids tourque gets you down the line not pure horse power. And I have seen it time and time again, honda civics need well over 10grand of parts before any significant power can be made to ofset the weaknes.
Well, i'm not going to go ahead and completely disagree with that last response.
However, for any modern buick or pontiac engine, i forget which the 3.8litre in question was, you're going to need a ton of work on the bottom end to make a whole lot of horsepower, probably replace a large amount of the engine.
Simply put, it all depends on the engine.
My 1993 Toyota Celica GT engine is a 2.2L, only making 130HP stock.
Now, explain to me why the engine in the 1990 Celica All-Trac, a 2.0litre, has been reported as making a reliable 500-600HP? Granted, it's a turbo. 3GSTE.
Mine is a 5AFSE i believe. The argument could be made that i could get that same 500HP, and i would be faster, because of the larger displacement, and the inherent torque that comes with it. However, the stock block won't take that kindof power, it's not that strong.
Loosely put, different engines take more abuse than others. Mine will be pushing the bottom end at about 180HP, i wouldn't put it much farther than that.
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/cherry/mvc-546f.jpg
The great thing is, even though it's only 130HP, the gearing is still right to chirp the tires pretty damn hard on the 1-2 upshift.
Anyway, screw that. Back to topic:
Obviously, i'm driving the Celica now.
Other cars i've had, in order of purchase
1995 Audi 90 Quattro (2.8 V6)
1993 Range Rover County LWB
1993 Toyota Celica GT
1988 Saab 900 Turbo "S"
1969 Datsun 2000
1993 Toyota Celica GT
1993 Toyota Celica GT
Long story about the celicas... They're all actually the same car.
Oh, and incidentally about the reliability issue. My celica now has 162000 miles on it. All that has ever been replaced on it is as follows:
Brakes all around twice
Just replaced the original clutch two days ago
Fuel tank and lines
Struts and shocks once
Timing belt, obviously
Really, that's it. Runs like the day it was new, and sounds great. yes, i still have the original exhaust on it. Japanese engineering at it's best. Tightest car i ever drove, barring a 1998 BMW M3
I'm not going to disagree however it's the design that's the X factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaguarking11
US cars are expected to go for 100K+ miles before they need spark plugs etc. Cars in the UK will be considered "over the hill" that that point.
US engines are usually designed for the extra mileage and consequently detuned (thus requiring more cc for the same bhp). This means that when your getting to 500bhp the US car isn't going to need as much work.
^In theory, that's a good point.
I'm not sure if you meant American engines themselves, or engines designed or tuned for the US market. If they're engines designed for the US market, then it'll take the same amount of tuning to get to the same power levels, you'll just start out lower, and maybe even cost more because of emissions crap.
My aformentioned Celica is still on the first spark plugs, after 162k. Driving this thing, it's anything but "over the hill."
Just having a friendly conversation, but what you just pointed out is why US engineering is extremely inefficient. Typically, what are the two most mentioned brands when talking about extremely high miles without rebuild?
Mercedes and Volkswagen. For good reason.
You should seriously consider replacing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciento44
Im sure you know the advantages.
Yeah, i know. I've just been loathe to do it, because it's not broken, you know?
But yeah, i'm getting some money from a job soon, and i'm actually probably going to put a lower level supercharger in it, maybe just get another 40HP or so out of it, nothing major, just higher fun factor. I'll probably do the plugs at the same time.
Wow @ 40hp from a blower...and how much $ is that gonna cost you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ciento44
Not worth it... :stick:
I bought my secondhand car a week ago.
It is a 1996 BMW 525 TDS touring (station wagon) 143 pk (I think in English it's horse power :D )
And all of this beauty for only 2000 euro (+- 2400 dollar I think ;))
options: Leather interior, electric windows and mirrors, airco, dubble opening sunroof, 10 cd changer with dolby from blaupunt, front airbags, etc........
pics: http://users.pandora.be/matenhen/auto /me is very happy :D
Ow tested on a German road: 220km/h on the meter and on gps 206 with a restriction chip from BMW, without it it would do 220km/ real
220km/h = 137.5 mp/h This car does 11.6 seconds from 0-60 mp/h (0-100 km/h) And it's an improvement to my Mercedes Benz who did 18.5 soconds LOL
Sorry, i should have elaborated more, and now that i've done more research on it, it seems more like 20-25HP is more like what i'll get out of it alone, but i'm also getting ram air, hotter spark plugs (though anything will be hotter than what i have now), hotter spark wires. And if i get a job up here, Unorthodox underdrive pulleys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
www.turbonator.com
That's what i'm going to try. It's cheap, and the idea in theory is sound. I just won enough money playing poker the other night to just blow on that, so i'm just going to go with it. It's not a true supercharger, i think they describe it more as a Mechanical Vortex supercharger or something like that. It doesn't have to spool up or anything like that.
Like i said, i'm not sticking a ton of money in it now, because once i get out of school, the whole thing is getting rebuild, with a 3GSTE swap, and awd.
C_X2, nice, i've always had a soft spot for BMWs. My dad used to take my Celica on long trips, because it got better gas mileage than his modified 1993 328is, so i got to drive it then. Rocket, and it handled like nothing i've driven since. Is that diesel?
yes that's a diesel. TDS = Turbo Diesel Sports (i'm not shur of sports but the rest of the TDS is right ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by ciento44
But it uses 10 liters at 100 Km so it's isn't as economecle as i tought ;)
Test drove an Alfa GT yesterday (1.9JTD version). A very nice car.
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2000 toyota avalon.
Mercedes-Benz CLK 200 K Convertible...163BHP, soon 198BHP :D
Liked the SL more, but as a dissabled person I need more room to put my wheelchair, so I had to go for something with 4 seats in it... :(
Some pics, I'll take other ones later...
Ps: Welcome to C_X2, nice to see some more Belgian people here :toast:
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Originally Posted by Duc
Thanks but I was here before with the nick C_X but for some reason it was deleted....... And they couldn't find it anymore. Therefor I added a 2 on c_X ;)
btw: nice car you have there...... My first car was also a Benz but it was a horrible 200D without a turbo :D 18.5 sec to 100km/h
1971 mercedes 280se straight six automatic
bought it for dirt cheap......
the thing that tells you how far it has gone just clicks over after 99'999kilometers, but it has been estimated that it has gone over 550'000km's but looking at the wear on the piston rings and headgasket...
max speed of 120km/h, but overheats to 135'C if you dont slow down quickly....max speed is 100km/h if you want to travel longer than 5mins at that speed....this car is the best, i love it! :woot:
i get about 320km's off a 75liter tank, hahahaha, it is terrible i know.....
but im rebuilding it, in for panelbeating and a respray at the moment(going for a black suede matt paint, charcoal-black leather seats and beige suede doorpanels and headliner and other leather trim....)
after all this gonna get some Focal sound and nice rims with whitewalls :banana: as well as an airbrush of the four horsemen of the apocolapse on the sides, pearl white on the panels around the windows and a silver pinstripe from the back to front.....
also swopping out pistons, cams, conrods, entire exhaust system, suspention
before you shout at me, i REALLY wish i could restore this car to its original shine, but i dont have the cash, the heatguage broke, found out that an original would cost me the same that i paid for the car, so just put in a generic cheapy at 1/70th the of cost
wish me luck!!!
oh yeah, also have a volkswagen polo classic 1.6i as a daily driver(but polo's are dumb :slapass: )
this is what it looked like when i got it
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it looks like a tractor engine LOL LOL LOL
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i used to have 98 avalon ^^ good carQuote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
now is E46 M3 SMG
To aja : Where are you exactly?? In europe??
I would rather see the car modified into a custom home-made style...
Will see if i can find some specs....
'd better buy a twin of that car, you would have replacement parts... lol :p:
I guess you the 300 engine will fit.....Why not try the V8 from the 600 limousine.
(The Limo also have a great interior and rear-hydraulic suspension...)
You could also turn your 280 se into a 600 (with one or two more meters...)
Or, the heating problem is well-known on forums...
http://forums.motorlegend.com/ubb/ul...opic/9/22.html
I guess you could design a good heat-exchanger yourself.....(aluminium...)
Think you can run 160 hp's with a prep'd engine.....
But it's a pity to touch those ladies....they need to be preserved....and rarely driven at the most.... :(
why not ask AMG (at the time, they were running 6.8 (from 6.3) liters V8 engine on a 300 SEL series chassis....(24 Hrs Spa-Francorchamps 1971)
have a pic (can e-mail if you want....)
Of course, everything depends on how much youv'e got......the problem of all those who work for a living....... :slap:
Bull :banana::banana::banana::banana:.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciento44
Have you ever worked on a 3800 block to know what it takes to get more horses out of it? I don't know where you get your information that you'd have to replace half of the engine to get anything out of it. You don't seem to really know what gives power to a car, and what does not.
For example? What good is horsepower if another part of your car is starving your wheels for torque and power?
What good is horsepower, if your car doesn't have the power to get up a decent grade without really starting to whine?
What good is horsepower if your shocks cannot handle a decent turn at speed?
There's more to a car than horsepower. Sure, on the strip its a big deal. But when you start driving around an actual race course, with varying terrain, you begin to notice that there's more to it than the boner effect known as Horsepower.
I could tune my 3800 block to do 300 easily, add a new differential to allow for greater power delivery to the ground. Adjust the transmission to a tighter beat. Add a better PCM and thermostat to unlock some more power, without really doing much. Give her ram air. A better ventillation system than your Celica is gonna get.
Anyone who thinks they're gonna get 600 useful HP out of a V6 without spending more than it costs for a V10 that will do it stock is just plain stupid.
there could be only ONE HIGHLANDER!!!
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To Stewie 007 :
Hi
Guess you're talking about driving.... :p:
Well, on one hand, it's not easy to "teach" young (from over 18 to 30 years old) people about the lost art of driving.....
They have their owm marks and their own habits....that's all....
Of course, getting so much power on the front wheels is, i think, just not good...not even for runs...
But...on the second hand, if you are the owner of a car, you'll definitly try to strip her guts...... :slobber: ....
On the all line, you'd be right.....but the point is that everyone is different....
And..it's great..... :)
To ciento44 : in deed,there was a tuned celica ( 4th of July, pikes peak 1994)
Celica-based (or say...related :)
4 wheel drive
2.1 four cylinders turbocharged engine (Toyota Racing Development....900 Hp)
Carbon brakes
A aerodynamic "effect (don't know the scientific word)" of more than 2000 pounds on the rear...at 200 km/h
The record was set at 10'04"06 mins
Previous was 10'43"63 on a Peugeot 405 T16 driven by Ari Vatanen.
On the all line?
Whatever that means... :p
My only point was it doesn't take so much to get power out of any engine. Just because they're japanese engines doesn't make them so much greater. Toyota ain't the only company playing around with racing engines. :p
it's actually alot cheaper to get power out of a v8... last i checked, some dude got 450 WHP in his integra, by spending 15-20 thousand bucks AFTER the cost of the car, so a total of about 30 grand
with a v8, such as ... a mustang GT, you can get 500 WHP with a good 5-6 grand, so like 16 grand total
or a camaro LS1 can get 650 BHP, 600 WHP, with new heads, and pistons, 6k there, so 20k total
small engines cost too much, and require too much maintenance to get a lot of power out of them, or let alone fix them, ppl wat 500 bucks just to install the clutch, that's assuming i'm supplying the clutch, on my acura
while my bro paid 400 bucks, got the clutch, and had it installed, on his mustang
btw, newbie: the word ur looking for, is downforce
Another advantage with a bigger sized engine is that you don't need to rev the nads off of it for the power.
Altho I wouldn't say no to a 450bhp integra :p:
I myself quite like diesels, I have had the pleasure of driving a VW Golf GT TDI and was very satisfied with the performance from a 2L Turbo diesel. Ok so its not a gorgeous sounding engine like a V8 mustang but It's economical and with the price of fuel in the UK, quite a godsend!
Anyways I shall leave you to debate jap and yank engines ;)
:p That much should be obvious, no? :) It goes hand and hand with my statement earlier about a V10 hehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by trance565
actually, i think v8's might be cheaper than v10's, cuz most cars with v10's cost a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load to begin with, same with v12's
and on the note of diesel, my friend is actually thinking about replacing his ls1 with a powerstroke deisel, one of the ones with like 550 hp, and 600ftlb of torqe, cuz of this new "bio deisel" fuel coming out, it's supposedly supposed to cost 2 bucks a gallon, and stay that way, it's made from some sort of vegetable oil i think
:)
My first statement is that it stinks (the smell) and it produces smoke....
But if your uncle is a farmer, then you should go for it....
They are originally made from cereals (colza, beetroot,...)
Some farmers, in britain country roads are using and producing it (in fact, they are recycling used oil (huile) from fast food or their own oil consumption...)
This replaces regular gazoline....
The diesel you are talking about is called Diester....we have that in France, and especially big transport firms are using it (mostly urban bus companies....)
And the European Union will increase the percentage of "bio power" added with the regular gas........to 6% i presume...
So, for now on, we are talking about both "Bio-"Diesel and "Bio-"Gasoline...
Remenber that, in Bresil, they are using alcohol, with an increased Octane rate....and a different compression ratio (higher than regular engines....)
And that's working pretty damned hard (Heaven, those little VW cars have the Devil in them...)
To trance565 : yop, downforce is the word.....i should have looked into GT4 :p:
Diesel addict.....
The only difference that makes a Diesel a diesel is that it's a spontaneous combustion engine (no added spark but a higher compression and a self-combustion by both heat and inside pressure.....)
Also, those engines are used to run out of air at more than 4000-4500 rpm's while gazoline engines go run as high as 15-16000 rpm's....
Of course, a diesel produces more torque, almost twice the amount of a similar gazoline engine......
Say we have direct injection and piezoelectric injectors (1600 bars of pressure...) and more than 2000 with pump-injectors from VW.....
(Say DCI,TDI,DI-D,.....)
Also, say that we have turbo (or two....), that can variate the angle of it's own fins to fit with a lower exhaust gaz debit.....
Look at the new PSA-Jaguar-Ford-Land Rover 2.7 V6 dual-Turbo engine (from 190 hps with a single turbo to 204 hp's with Dual Turbos...)..SIlence at his best...A panther strenght in a relaxed atmosphere....
Or the V10 TDI engine from VW.....313 hp's but an awful weight.....700-750 Nm of torque if i'm right....
The most impressive must be the BMW 535d.....272 hp's out of a 3.0 V6 engine......dual Turbo's...in line (The first-little one goes as the engine starts and up to 2500-3000 rpm's, then the valve of the second-big ass turbo opens with pressure and roars to 4500-5000 rpm's......just like a european BMW engine....)
Check this out.....On a 1000 meters run, this baby does around 26' secs....
Also, have seen a 200 hp's 1.9 liters TDI engine.....installed into a golf IV....
Or a Renault Megane Coupe with 170 hp's out of a 1.9 DCI engine
Look at Peugeot RC's CUP (2.2 liters HDI engine with 180 hp's...plus particules filter) :slapass:
http://www.developpement-durable.psa...niv2=02&id=833
Damned, say a diesel for everyday and a gazoline roadster or muscle car for the week-ends....
Anyone agrees??
1997 Saab 900S convertible.
Photos from when I picked it up:
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Yes, true. And that engine used is a variant of the engine that is getting swapped into my Celica next summer, which is the 3SGTE. I'm running the 5SFE right now, which in comparison is a real turd. It's a 2.2 N/A 4-cylinder making 135HP/145 lbs of torque. The 3SGTE, depending on which generation makes 185HP/205HP/255HP stock. The last generation was only available on the Cardina and Celica GT4 in Japan i believe. The other generations are readily available in the US for a decent price. Celica owners can expect to blow around $5000 in cash for the complete engine/tranny swap. The tranny from the 5sfe can't even hope to cope with the power this engine can put out. Tuned 5SFE though, forget it. People have done a "5sfte" turbo mod, but it's really not worth the money, and all you really get out of it is something different to brag about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newbie_User
Stewie007, i just say chill out man. I'm not going to pretend that i know everything about your 3.8 V6. I'm sure that 300HP is perfectly attainable, but if you notice, we were talking numbers like 500HP. That's going to take some work. And even though you say it like it's a fact that i think that Jap engines are the greatest, wrong, i don't. German is the best that i can think of. Spark plugs at 162k original? True story, unless the owner before me replaced them before 24000 miles, at which point the 60-year old lady can be deemed a moron.
Moot point anyway, i just replaced them two days ago with NGK V-Power plugs, and Nology Spark plug wires. Makes a little difference, not a whole lot.
My dad's 1992 Ford Aerostar ran to 227000 miles, and he only replaced the spark plugs once. As long as they don't get fouled with oil from some idiot not taking care of the engine, good spark plugs run a long freaking time.
And Stewie, i know that there's more than horsepower, that's why i chose to keep the Celica rather than get some crapped out Camaro that would still dust me on a drag strip. I've been through two driving schools, and the Datsun 2000 aforementioned in one of my posts, was a track toy set up for road racing. It's about making speed, and keeping it. My roomate's Z28 will kill me on a straight road until his gearing limits his top speed, but i'll kill him on a road course. It's all simple. Please don't treat me like i'm a freaking moron, i haven't done the same to you.
Back on topic, kinda. My girlfriend is looking into getting a Prelude type SH with the H22A engine. I hope she does so i can drive it. :banana:
yep, that's what i would do if i had the money, diesel evday driver, sports car weekender, but here in america, we done believe in diesel with less than 300 hpQuote:
Originally Posted by Newbie_User
i think one of our weekest diesels, that i know of, is like 350HP, and 450 ftlbtq
i think thats the ford f250?
but anyways, if i were to get a diesel, it would have to be a GM motor, with 500 HP, and a good 700 ftlb of torque, i mean, sure, 10-12 miles per gallon, but none the less, thats a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of power, and alot of our diesels will do qtmile in like high 14-15 seconds.
You should seriously consider replacing them.
Im sure you know the advantages.