Cheap Labor;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TS_PHI_PERRY_78
Just kidding:D
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Cheap Labor;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TS_PHI_PERRY_78
Just kidding:D
OPP
Onepagebook
If i'm not wrong,you showed screen of the SLI part of the Dfi Nf4 Manual,right ?
The Sli part showing support for the Sli of Nvidia
Would y show us a little more about the next part,named Dual Xpress Grap.....
Cause if i'm not wrong,Xpress is the name Ati have for their Chipsets
Could it be that Dfi have something in it sleeve concerning ati ?
All I know is ATI won't need that bridge to comunicate between the 2 cards, they will do it through a driver.
OPP
Sweet. No more relying on a DDR Booster.
EDIT:
When is the ATI solution expected to be released?
Aha, so that was what you meant. We have always know that SLI is nVidia only, I hope the VIA chipset is a really good overclocker and DFI will make one of those boards too :) Or they meybe will realse an ATI (amr right?) board...Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
btw, does anyone know if DFI have ever made an VIA board, i've seen nVidia, Intel and SiS...
So you say that there will be a possibility to run 2xATI PCI-E cards in "SLI-mode" on NF4 SLI cards in the future??Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I have no Idea if it will work on NF4 or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
OPP
Still, it sounds just too fantastic to be true. To allow up to 4.0Vdimm selectable in bios for the end-users (if it works indeed without adjusting the 3.3 rail as it was the case with DFI's Socket754 board, just as you said), is just insane. I wonder whether DFI intends to sell a single board to any non-enthusiast at all because even red hot large warnings with bold font size of 56 in the manual wouldn't stop those ordinary users at least to try out what's that 4.0v setting - and damaging their value ram in quite a short time.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Then again, I don't care as long as DFI comes out with the greatest ocing mobo ever :devil: (how long was that when we all prayed for simultaneous insane Vcore and Vdimm options in a single motherboard (not speaking about mods here) - now our askings might finally be rewarded)...
Dirt: Not on a nVidia platform, ATI:s own chipset...
Edit: Atleast as I have understand it...
Kriller is that a fact?
EDIT: OK ;)
That was my understanding when I read the news about it.
Offtopic: Anyone got that link with one VIA guy that testet an X800 and PCX5700 in quake 3 on their multi-gpu system, can't find it...
Edit: ofcourse trans_am, I wrote that a couple of posts higer up.
And VIA K8t890Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriller
ok Folks, here is the PDF from DFI LP NF4, all the copyright and credit should be on DFI
Many thanks to Jessfm host that 11mb space. :toast:
Here you go
OT: Well since we have a lot of OC Guru´s in this thread I´ll take the chance to ask if you would go for a nVidia 6800GT (non-SLI) solution or a ATI X850XT on this card.
x850xt peQuote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
Thanks jessfm and OPB. :toast:
Thanks OPB! Nice! :D
And of course Jessfm! Thanks for hosting this :)
wow that board is just amazing
OPP, AMR will have a bridge but it will be between the pcie slots with the chipset. So basicly its the same thing, just that it will work will all of the ati pcie cards, unlike nvidia who has to make special pcie cards for sli.
I scrolled straight down to the BIOS stuff on that PDF manual. Looks like we'll be having memory options galore again. :D
Loading the Long waited Manual ;p
Gonna read from start to end until the board finally come out ;p
WORD :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doumz
I see, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
My sources just can't get anything right these days:D
OPP
What? server down :(
Thanks OPB. I was happy with my Neo2 and just purchased a 128mb GT 6800 too, now all thats going to change when this puppy is available.
I think the Vmem has to be the best design implication, for me that is a big PLUS for this board (and possibly future all DFI's? now they designed it). Vcore is Nice but not likely to be as useful IMHO
There is only one person I know that uses that much v-core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessfm
Tom Holck :D
He will be a happy camper with this mobo.
OPP
yeah when you go over 1.97v you go into dangerzone :)
Dont you think vDimm from 3,3-4,0 will be enabled after setting some Expert Mode or something. Seems strange with a spectra that starts as high as 3,3 volt.
Oh the Vcore will be usefull :D
Im not a guru like OPP to make my own cascades, im sure i would try if i got a FAQ/walkthrough (wink wink hint hint ;)), so untill further notice it will only be a VapoLS, around June. My chip isnt the best, but it should do some 3400 @ 2.1Vcore :)
Cant wait untill Venice :D
I don't make my own Cascades. PCIce makes my cascades.Quote:
Originally Posted by TS_PHI_PERRY_78
If I did make them, they would be the best:cool:
OPP :cool:
I've skipped over several mobos waiting to upgrade my A8V 1.02, this looks like a winner so far! :bounces:
:rocker:
The Dual Xpress Graphics Function supports the following:
Two PCI Express x16 Graphics Cards"
Does this mean X800XT in Dual mode? :banana4:
$299USD and they'll sell out faster than believed possible......
:(
C
WHAT ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Well I know Im gonna have one, and I dont care what it costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
so i can select 3.5vdimm to VX ram and it will be okay without any extra coolingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jessfm
would ocz 520w PSU be okay for that ?
Insane board!! I do need to get a rid of my MSI now and buy a DFI+PCI-E card(s).
Well im just looking for a place in sweden to preorder the mobo:
3500+ Winchester, OCZ PS 520W and a 6800GT is ordered. Just cant decide if i should change to a X850XT or not :(
Now the question is, which boards are ye getting?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=22020
And it'll be worth EVERY penny.
The "Definitive" motherboard has arrived.............
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nube
OCZ 520W better be OK with it, that's what I have:D
OPP
Looks like nF4 SLI-DR to me :/
What is UT anyways? Obviously NF4 SLi-DR is better than UT NF4-SLI-DR as its the top model :|
Ut mean the board only,like any other mb maker sell
the normal lanparty come with everything,cable,pc transpo,etc
hummm I got a X800XT being replaced thats AGP I could trade that in for a PCI X800XT
two questions
1. would a X800XT pci card work on this??
2. my 3700eb is stable on my A8V at 3-2-2 @ 247 and 3-2-3 @ 259 with 2.8ish volts. What would you guess my EB could run with 4v avil to it???
1)The X800XT will work no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
2) I don't think EB will like that much voltage, wild guess says around 280MHz with about 3.5V.
OPP
I want to see what it will do with the same parts Opp had in the neo2 the bh-5, fx55+x800xt at the same clocks in 3dmark 2001 ;)
I wonder if it will be as fast, faster or slower :).
What does: "Diagnostic LED connector" and "FronX" mean??
The cheapest I can't afford :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TS_PHI_PERRY_78
Diagnostic LED connector is probably something like MSI's D-Bracket leds. FrontX is a front bay device with all the handy connectors (USB, audio) upfront...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
:YIPPIE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE MANUAL :YIPPIE:
I'm sure that this will change the lives of many people...
Well..lets see about that. Specs are nice, but I have only seen 1 bench so far and it didn't give a clear picture. So we really know nothing about this board other than it has potential on paper ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
The only thing that makes me cheer atm is the fact that Oskar has been involved in the design :D
With the risk to be laughed at... who is this Oskar fella?
D O S: Okey. I need the DFI UT nF4 SLI-DR then :)
Oscar_Wu from some french forum right?
Well what about him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriller
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
that I presume?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fewture
Well I got that part, whats so special with this guy??
What makes him special is he's a XtremeSystems Forum Member:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=5267
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...earchid=196553
OPP
He is the DaVinci of designing overclockable boards.
280 @ 3.5v would be fine by me if it can hit it. were you thinking 3-2-2 or 3-2-3 on your guess???
hummm ***dreams about 360 FSB with a 4/5 divider***
ahh, good :)
the board for me is the LP-UT nF4 SLI-D or the LP-UT nF4 Ultra-D :)
(who the hell needs the silicon-raid-controller :rolleyes: - the nF4-SLI/nF4-U-chipset is sATA300-ready ;))
3-2-2, I know it can be done with one stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
280 may be really pushing it in dual mode:D
OPP
Good exponation, thnx :banana4:Quote:
Originally Posted by MIN_Roadkill
He's a genius and makes fast boards and biosses to go with it :D Basicly.. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Dirt
hummm I might have to spend the money on this
I figure my X800XT @ PE+ speeds will work until the R520 comes out this summer and I bet this board should ROCK with future upgrades.
R520 this summer and trade my 3500+ in for a FX-55 after the FX-57 has made the FX-55's prices drop below 700.00 USD :D
Might not be close to OPP's Phase change super cooled monster but a 3ghz 1mb cache FX-55 with two R520s in AMR config will be a decent gaming rig at the end of the summer. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriller
Oskar Wu is "made in Taiwan" :D
same :banana::banana::banana::banana: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
LOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
Some spec of DFI LanParty NF4 SLI :
NVIDIA nForce4 SLI
CPU : Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
PCI Express : 20X
NVIDIA SLI Multi-GPU
Ports USB : 10
Disques durs : 4 PATA (UDMA133) + 4 SATA1 (1,5GB/s) + 4 SATA 2 (3GB/s)
RAID Morphing
Cross-Controller RAID
NVIDIA ActiveArmor
Native Gigabit Ethernet
NVIDIA Firewall
NVIDIA nTune
8 channel audio (Dolby 7.1 Karajan)
DFI CMOS Reloaded
DFI Genie Bios
Jumper to select SLI mode or not
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...DFI-bridge.jpg
7.1 Karajan Sound :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...FI-karajan.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...-karajan-2.jpg
First Screenshot @370@1T : / edit : not me :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...set-FSB370.jpg
how high can the FSB go when the bus multiplier when set at 5x ???
I heard the a8v for example becomes unstable above 1150mhz
ouch 370 and only 7400 sandra those 6-6 clocks sure are hurting things.
what LDT did you use at 370?????
Just AWSOMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Zanr Zij
:slobber:
who can confirm that this mobo can lock PCI Express clock ? Thanks :)
I think the jumper would be bit different from the new version.;)
I think more importantly, 3-6-6 is not that necessary for everyone :D , from several conversations with oskar,
we all think that's just the confirmation that how high the fsb this board can reach.
As long as board can do stable @ DDR600~650 with CL 2.5, I think that's good enough.
maybe b'coz admin of dfi-street said that this mobo first release about Feb/ March may be June :D...Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
I too am glad about the 5v rail.
If the board can only use nvidia cards which was expected why the hassle of the massive jumpers? No other SLI board has this to enable SLI.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriller
:D
Nice board but i think i get a new aprilia rsv mille 04a instead.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepagebook
most Important in performance is Command Rate ( 1T ) and ratio of CPU Speed/ Ram bus... ( not be multi ) ... .Timing give increase about 3-5% at same bus...
Of course cas 2.5-x-x-y be better :D ( x < =4 )
nice board but too expensive... I am not ready to pay that much just for the voltages. I like the board layout though
yeah, now happy with MSI Neo2 because of price of it and PCI Express Dual Vid... Too Expensive... But maybe change in midle of this year.. :) or sooner if have money :D
Good choice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
Vcore 2.1v , vdimm 4v Im in love :banana4:
wow, no need for vmods!!
just fried my abit nf7-s 2.0 2 days ago when i slipped with a voltmeter before i was going to mod! RMA is my friend.
Dfi needs to do something based on a different chipset. people are not stupid. They want choices. The whole nvidia sli thing is such a gimmick. It's cool how it works and it helps games, benching etc. but the nvidia only thing is really a shame. Who knows, maybe by the time there are flagship pci-e cards from ati and nvidia, DFi will have a board that supports both cards for dual gpu rendering. :bday:
That board has pros and cons, but I am tempted ;)
I want that now :D
Spill the beans then, what the cons IYHOQuote:
Originally Posted by SAE
Whoa. This board is awesome. The only thing that would convince me in buying it now is whether or not people have good results overclocking with it.
Cons: NVidia vid cards only :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessfm
Erm, why buying an SLI board when there's only an option for single ati cards!? :confused: A single ATI card could also be used on an NF4 Ultra for much less money, but cause peeps are wanting the best they buy SLI and are forced to go nvidia for vid card again :(Quote:
Originally Posted by µnrealneo²
I highly doubt DFI has a VIA variant in petto...
Erm, why buying an SLI board when there's only an option for single ati cards!?
Then buy the NON SLI version of the board.
That's the problem here! I want SLI, but I'd really like to have the option what manufacturer to chose...Quote:
Originally Posted by tritium
No further discussion bout that please, anyone could see that as spam ;)
I think that's a toughie. The only way i see for that to happen is if there is Nvidia works with ATI to produce such chipset.
But onto the the topic...
How much does the DFI Socket 939 cost? And i mean each one... (sorry if this was already answered)
How is that SPAM. This looks like a great board!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
It seems that there are a lot of people waiting for the DFI solution for s939
Nforce3 or 4. Now that it is comming out people are complaining about what chipset it has, is it SLI or not, How many SATA ports, etc..
The point is it looks to be a killer board for overclocking.
You know guys, if ATI wants SLI and cant do it through the PCI-E bus they could just connect the cards with an "ide" cable like the voodoo 2's used to do... didnt need any special crap back then (just driver support - hint hint), why should we need it now??? :D
Because the nvidia chipset calls for the sli connector on the cards. Ati doesn't have that connector on the pcb. The ati chipset also needs a connector to enable the dual rendering this is so ati can basically do what nvidia is doing to compete with them. So The happy medium is the VIA k8t890 where all you need to enable the dual gpu rendering is a simple driver. All these damn chipsets trying to have a pissing contest with dual rendering. THe best option IMO is VIA. Everyone wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
FYI: straight from DFI PR about 2 minutes ago:
:toast:Quote:
This model is slated for launch on Jan 4th, which is tomorrow. After the launch, the board will be available in limited quantity initially but as soon as our production is ramped up, the quantity will become more adequate. The best place to check on availability in the US is newegg.com.
I say gameve and or zipzoomfly first ;) they had the 754 board first for preorders :)
If this is true, I'll be refreshing my browser every 30 minutes in the same manner that we all did when the VX was released. Then, I'll take the rest of the day off due to the stress and anxiety. :DQuote:
This model is slated for launch on Jan 4th, which is tomorrow. After the launch, the board will be available in limited quantity initially but as soon as our production is ramped up, the quantity will become more adequate. The best place to check on availability in the US is newegg.com.
EDIT:
Anyone know if Asus has a 6800 Ultra PCIe out yet?
I can't guarantee it'll happen but I can tell you she's very trustworthy... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
DFI® Answers to the Enthusiasts with Launch of LANParty™ NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT™ NF4 Ultra-D Motherboards
-- The new nForce™ 4 chipset based motherboards support dual PCI-Express video cards and boast the industry’s most powerful performance enhancing options to deliver the ultimate user experience --
For further information, contact:
Vivian Lien
DFI San Jose
510.274.8000 x 121
vivian@dfiweb.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Hayward, CA (January 4, 2005) – DFI®, a worldwide leader in industrial computing solutions and maker of the LANParty™ series of motherboards, today launched the new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards for the socket 939 AMD® Athlon™ 64 platform. Taking full advantage of the rich feature set the NVIDIA® nForce4 chipsets have to offer, the new DFI UV-sensitive motherboards bring more performance lead to high-end desktop computing than others.
SLI™ (Scalable Link Interface) and DXG™ (Dual Xpress Graphics) Technologies
Based on the nForce 4 SLI chipset, the new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR motherboard is DFI’s first to fully support NVIDIA’s new SLI technology in the signature LANParty package. Delivering almost twice the performance of a single GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) configuration, SLI brings more graphics realism to desktop PCs than any other technologies. The multiple GPU support of SLI takes advantage of the increased PCI-Express bandwidth and enables DFI’s new motherboard to support two identical PCI-Express video cards simultaneously using a bridge connector. Seamlessly operating in parallel, the new LANParty motherboard provides the perfect solution for real time rendering, complex video processing or intensive game play.
Similarly, the nForce 4 Ultra chipset based LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboard supports dual display cards to deliver the ultimate graphics experience. DFI’s proprietary DXG (Dual Xpress Graphics) Technology benefits from the multiple PCI-Express lanes the chipset supports, using the 16x and 2x configurations, to allow for versatile graphics support and utmost future-proof upgrade ability.
New Storage Standard
The new LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards bring several important technological breakthroughs to the AMD socket 939 platform. Designed for users to run multiple applications without bottlenecks, both motherboards support Serial ATA II hard drives and Native Command Queuing (NCQ). Serial ATA II delivers a high-speed transfer rate of 3GB/second, more than twice as fast as traditional ATA133. NCQ introduces asynchronous I/O and increases drive reliability in heavy workloads by eliminating much of the mechanical wear and tear.
To provide a reliable and scalable data environment, the motherboards support RAID through NVIDIA’s new NV RAID Utility software. NV RAID allows for both Serial ATA and IDE 0, 1, 0+1 RAID configurations. Through its Window’s based utility suite, users can now easily partition hard drives and configure RAID.
In addition to the multiple RAID functions, the SLI version brings RAID 5 to the desktop with its integrated Silicon Image 3114 chip. RAID 5 is one of the most popular RAID levels, where it stripes both data and parity information across three or more drives, removing the bottleneck that the dedicated parity drive presents and improving write performance.
Performance and Stability Enhancement Features
Boasting the industry’s most complete and advanced BIOS options, the new LANParty and LANPartyUT motherboards raise the bar even further with new additions. For the overclocking minded enthusiasts, both motherboards now support memory voltage from 2.5V to 4.0V, CPU core voltage up to 2.1V, chipset voltage from 1.5V to 1.8V, HTT ranging from 1.2 to 1.5, adjustable multiplier control up to 20x and a large range of Async settings. Combined with DFI’s CMOS Reloaded™ technology, both motherboards enable users to maximize performance potentials while enjoy the convenience of saving all the BIOS settings on the fly, renaming to customize CMOS settings, and recalling using a user-defined hot key.
To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards.
Most Extensive Integrated Features
Designed to lead in most features per value, both LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards comprise of DFI’s proprietary EZ On and Reset buttons to make testing and installation easy, dual Gigabit LAN (PCI and PCI Express based) for blazing fast network connection, and NV Active Armor Firewall to protect clients from security attacks at a decreased CPU utilization rate. Audiophiles are entertained with the proprietary Karajan 8-channel audio solution. With its independent audio riser card, unwanted static noise and other audio interference are eliminated to produce a superior sound quality.
Availability and Package Details
The LANParty NF4 SLI-DR package includes matching colour UV reactive round and SATA cables, PC Transpo computer carrying case, FrontX break out box, SLI bridge and on-board SLI switch caps. The LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboard is bundled with matching colour UV reactive round and SATA cables and SLI bridge. Both LANParty NF4 SLI-DR and LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D motherboards are currently available in limited quantities through DFI’s authorized resellers worldwide. For more information on where to buy and the complete specifications, please visit http://www.dfi.com.tw or email sales@dfiweb.com.
LANParty NF4 SLI-DR -----------------------------LANPartyUT NF4 Ultra-D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=22033&stc=1 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=22034&stc=1
About DFI® (San Jose), Inc.
Founded in 1981 in the heart of Asia, DFI, Inc. is a worldwide leader in motherboard design and manufacturing. Headquartered in Taiwan, DFI’s international presence includes the United States, the Netherlands, China and Japan. Dedicated to manufacturing the highest quality solutions for the expanding IT market, DFI’s product lines include a complete line-up of advanced motherboards, graphics solutions, and Applied Computing Platforms. The company sells its products through a selected group of distributors, system builders, VARs, retailers and e-tailers internationally.
DFI’s US branch office is located at 30991 San Clemente Street, Hayward, CA 94545. For more information on the company, please visit www.dfi.com.tw or email Vivian@dfiweb.com.
DFI and LANParty are registered trademarks. Other product names are either trademarks or trade names of their respective holders.
Thanks, OPP. :slobber:
Well, if Newegg's gonna have the nf4 SLI-DR in stock tomorrow, I'm buying one. Too bad I'm not going to have any cards to stuff in the slots for a few more weeks. :(
oh yeah.....
only question left is, "Can a single GPU NF4 board with PCI-E take on a Neo2 with AGP and the nice-clocking XT Plat??"
Hmmmm.... probably NOT with the 800XT PCI-E.... but with the X850, we'll probably see the NF4 (specifically DFI) beat the single AGP Neo2's.....
:D
Hot key bios recall?? :slobber:Quote:
Combined with DFI’s CMOS Reloaded™ technology, both motherboards enable users to maximize performance potentials while enjoy the convenience of saving all the BIOS settings on the fly, renaming to customize CMOS settings, and recalling using a user-defined hot key.
IMO thats how you sell me a motherboard. Forget all that other stuff I want to hear more stuff like this. :cool:Quote:
To provide rock solid stability, both nForce4 chipset based motherboards feature Japanese aluminum electrolytic capacitors, magnetic levitation north bridge cooling fan with fan speed control, and all aluminum heat sink on mosfets. The conductive polymer (electrolytic) aluminum solid capacitors provide high resistance to over-voltage and reverse voltage as compared with other capacitors, making them the ideal choice for overclocking and mission critical motherboards. To further provide maximum cooling on-board, both motherboards feature DFI’s first magnetic levitation chipset cooling fan that moves almost twice the air compared to standard chipset fans while producing extremely little noise. Thanks to magnetic levitation technology, the spinning fan blades “float” in a magnetic field and thereby dramatically reduces friction, wear and tear, and heat generation. All of these hardware implementations directly contribute to cooler, quieter and longer lasting motherboards.
I posted first... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
How come I get a "if this is true..." but OPP gets a thank you? :rolleyes:
j/k :toast:
Hahaha. Because OPP posted the press release, which gave me an instant hard-on. Thanks, EQuito. :toast: