I'm doing some tests on my K8NSNXP 939.
I can boot with 280 2/2/2/2 1:1 in bios.
I'm doing some tests on my K8NSNXP 939.
I can boot with 280 2/2/2/2 1:1 in bios.
misteroadster do you have some tccd mems to test?
so what's the bottom line? Is this better than Neo2??????????
C
Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
Man that's sick! Watercooling mosfets! Wow I had some issues with french people but this deff makes up for it. Have you made any custom watercooling solutions for memory?
Ruling!
I can't cold boot at 280 , but reboot is not a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
To boot with high FSB, set it to 201 reboot, and set the FSB required after in bios and reboot.
i've done 201---->280 like a charm. :rolleyes:
I see so set at 201 in bios and then use clockgen or something to do it in windows. So you were never able to boot with high htt from bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
I've edited ;)
apparently it's the same thing , when the mobo is at 200 AGP/PCI is locked , but when you set it to 201 before , it works good.
no, i don't, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by maneshu
Does the XP120 also cool the mofsets?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
I read it all and I am getting the XP verson(worth almost $200) for $110 used. I will let you guys know how it goes. so if you shut the computer down, it wont boot again at high fsb, youd need to clear cmos and start at low fsb then reboot and then boot at high fsb? what if my comp crashes when its 280fsb? is there a way to make it default back to 200fsb, maybe hold Del or Insert while posting? Is the max htt300 or is there a way to get higher? I need 333ht to hit 3GHz on my newcastle on air since it hates low temps, wont post below 0c :( Charlie did 3GHz, I may or may not do it but ill never know if I cant get over 300ht
Geforce4 :
I think the best is :
Boot at 201 Desynch 166 LDT 3X , and push to 300 and more with clockgen.
Personally i never used clearcmos , when i m at 280 in bios , and shutdown , after power on , the pc clear the FSB after some seconds and reboot with 200 FSB.
I would just buy the ultra version for $115 new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
There might be a little indirect airflow over the mosfets, but no I wouldn't say it cools them. If you want active cooling on them you will have to plan to add some just for them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
mine is the $195 verson with the dual bios, better audio, extra cooling and all for $110 :D so if you set the fsb too high and cold boot, itll just default back to 200fsb?
yes , the other settings are recorded most of time.
Some K8NSNXP-939 (same than yours) results :
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/31s2450.JPG
30K with X800XT PE Stock and 2335Mhz :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8237254
Umm... My board doesn't have dual bios? Then this second bios chip is just there to look pretty?
Better audio? looks like the same audio to me. Maybe it just sounds better on your speakers?
http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...0Ultra-939.htm
http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...8NSNXP-939.htm
so given that (at least here in oz) the price of this k8ns ultra 939 + the price of a ddr booster are about equal to the price of a neo2, which would be the better option? i have 2x512mb doublesided bh-5
better solution for you is K8NS Ultra with Vio=vddr modded ;)
1. I'm fed up w/ the lack of control on the MSI neo2 :brick:
2. Old Chipset (0409) and no vdd control :brick:
3. Like the UT/tweaker-level of mem controls :D
4. I got a working and correctly oriented OCZ BOOSTER :banana:
5. Ordered board from newegg this morning :hehe:
Maybe can zap the msi outof my sig....
939 Ultra BIOS F4
What are you guys using to monitor CPU temp. The stock programs that come with this board are nothing to rave about. Also how high do you guys think I can push the K8NS Ultra w/ 3200+ winnie to, with crap Infineon PC3200 mem, and stock cooling. Not sure when I will have the cash to get better ram as new box, Motherboard, Vid Card and CPU are about as much as I can get away with before the wife kills me.
MGE XG Viper w/500w PS
GA-K8NS Ultra 939
Athlon64 3200+ Winchester
Infineon 512mb PC3200
Gainward 5700U (Leadtek 6800 backordered)
Got board 1 hr ago.
Have tried both winnies (32/3500), bh5, tccd mem (1 stick) in different slots
2 PSUs, 2 dif vga (radeon 8500/9800pro). Have it sitting on box to avoid grounding $hit.
Cleared cmos and check POS battery, replaced w/ good one.
When PSU turned on, fans spin up for a sec. When attempting to power on the motherboard w/ power switch DEAD DEAD DEAD :mad: :mad: :mad:
Suggestions or is this a POS board and RMA immediately?
What experiences have you all had w/ this board since the beginning of the week (Max FSB, tweaks, etc) Please? :confused: :D :brick: :shrug:
Thanks MikeE
Hmm I wonder how this might work on this board! Oh well that's for next week :hehe:
I just ordered another one, 2 3200+OEM's and a ddr booster. I hope I get some Leprechauns!!!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=46087
Glad to hear your coming back to the fold Trans Am... Was starting to think that interest in this board died out when you sent yours back.
After seeing Misteroadster's success with the board, how could anyone not want one? I still refuse to buy MSI, so this is the only viable option atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by TalonGSX
MSI=questionable integrity, bad track record
EPOX=low voltage options, nothing new
Gigabyte K8NS Ultra=a little quirky, but for less than $115, who can complain?
I'm going to get one more than likely... :confused:
so do u all recommend this board over anyother board in its price range compared to getting a dfi ut 250gb and 3000+ 754?? ill be using 256x2 pdp xbl tccd and water
Here's a recent reply from gigabyte rep. regarding issues on K8ns ultra nf3:
(original message)
Question - 135992
From : alvin hayek [ alvinhayek@yahoo.com ]
Sent : 2004/11/21 09:20
Question : Need new bios to fix fsb issue. when raising high fsb (htt) you need to set htt at 201 then reboot, then you can raise to high htt. Also higher vdimm and vcore is also a must. Thanks.
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Model Name : GA-K8NS Ultra-939
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M/B Rev : 3232132123
BIOS Ver : 4
Serial No. : 1231215464
Purchase Dealer :
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VGA Brand : Nvidia Model : 6800gt
CPU Brand : AMD Model : Speed :
Operation System : Win XP SP : 2
Memory Brand : Samsung Type :
Memory Size : Speed :
Power Supply : W
(response) Hi,
There are no option available for higher dimm voltage since it can damage the memory. Are there are issue running the system at default specs?
(my response)
Cmon, dont give me that default specs crap! You can't damage memory with 2.85 vdimm. This is an enthusiast motherboard and should have enthusiast overclocking settings. If this is the way Gigabyte feels, then me and every other ENTHUSIAST is going to buy DFI or Abit or MSI etc.. If Gigabyte is going to market to the enthusiast overclocking comunity then you need to do something about these issues now!
KNOWN issues with K8NSXP version and Ultra-nf3
max vdimm is 2.85v
tracks vtt
max vcore is 1.7v
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates up to 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT
crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time
always detects ide drives at bootup, cant disable this setting latest bios fixes this problem
9x multi slitghly unstable
8x multi very unstable
runs great with bh5
runs great with ch5
runs great with samsung tccc
NO Memory Interleaving?
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: easy vcore mod with pin10 to ground via 50K VR
BUT the max vcore after a mod is 1.95v and coldboot with 1.85v+ vcore might kill the board!
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
TIP: for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster)
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
Please fix these issues!!!!!
Just got a reply from my last message.
Hi,
We have contacted our HQ and unfortunately they are unwilling to raise vdimm for this motherboard since it can damage the memory modules. We guaranatee to run stable at default specs. Are you experiencing any issue running the system at default speed?
my response:
OK, well, I guess I will be using an ocz ddr booster. aside from the vdimm, what about the htt issues? And the 9x multi issues? what if someone buys a 3000+ for this board that is a 9x multi Default. they are going to have problems because this board has issues with 9x multi. And to make it work out, one would need to drop multi and increase fsb, but since the board has issues at high fsb, then I guess they are out ot luck? we need a bios rev to fix this asap!!!
I wish misteroadster was here, he was able to do crazy htt with this thing.
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/3GigWinnie2.JPG
OK, scratch the 9x multi issue. I read this whole thread again and Lithan was using the 9 multi just fine. Board should be here wednesday. As for my previous issues on this board, I've got my fingers crossed. I hope it works out.
u tell em trans am :)
I'm hoping it works out because this MB is laid out perfect for my XP120 that is sitting here waiting to be put to use and I'm not too sure if I'll be using this Gigabyte or bending a capacitor...Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
:( :( :(
Here's the latest reply from gigabyte regarding the 3000+ 939. note that the stock multi on this chip is 9x.
(me)
OK, well, I guess I will be using an ocz ddr booster. aside from the vdimm, what about the htt issues? And the 9x multi issues? what if someone buys a 3000+ for this board that is a 9x multi Default. they are going to have problems because this board has issues with 9x multi. And to make it work out, one would need to drop multi and increase fsb, but since the board has issues at high fsb, then I guess they are out ot luck? we need a bios rev to fix this asap!!!
Hi,
The default should be 10x, are there any issue running it at default specs?
We do not guaranatee overclocking. If not stable still at the default specs please list exactly what kind of issue it causes, when it occurs and what the error message indicates.
Thank you
HMMM? default on 3000+ is 10x??? Gigabyte can gigaBITE ME!!
OK I have great news!! just got another gigabyte ultra from ZZF today. Set everything up. turned it on and leds and fans running but no beeps. no post screen nothing! HEHEHE! It figures! with my luck I am not surprised. tested 2 cpus, took ram out, etc and same crap. yes my 12v is connected. lol. Anyway, already got rma number from ZZF. I know I said I wouldn't ever buy msi product again, but cmon, it can't be any worse than this POS. CAll me a sell out, but I can't take anymore chances with this board, msi neo2 on the way. oh, btw, popped the chipset heasink off and it's nf3 is made in taiwan and 0411 date? Could this be why we were getting crap clocks? I thought taiwan was the better chipset. but why the old date? Anywy, gigaBITE me!
My 939 0.09 3000+ the multiplier is 9x. i'm able to oc 'till 9x253Mhz (more/less)Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
i can't use multiplier 9 and 10 with my K8NSNXP-939
it puts multiplier 5 when i look with cpu-z
My GA-K8NS Ultra board has gone to the dogs too... was having problems with the voltage readings. My Negative volatages were absolute crap (-12v= -4-6v, -5=-1-3v)and my 5v was bouncing between 2-4.6v. At first I figured it was the program I was using to monitor the voltages. Then I started getting lock ups. I ran out to get a new power supply. My new RAM(HyperX 3200) and Vid card (BFG 6800 OC) came in that day as well so I swapped them all in. No change with the new power supply. To add insult to injury, the lousy Gigabyte board took out my new 6800 card, and now I have to RMA both of them. The power supplies are both MGE, one is a 500w that came with the Viper Case, and the other is the Vigor 400w.
Just doing my bit to perpetuate the Hit or Miss nature of this board.
I just brought K8NS Ultra-939 and flashed it with F5 BIOS (i received it from Gigabyte Taiwan). With my Winchester 3200+ 0432 TPMW and default HSF.
http://www.geocities.com/benny_nejkt...0x10_winch.txt
I need vmod for dimm to make my KHX 3200ULK2 runs 1:1. Any one can help me ?
Where can i get the F5 bios? All servers from Gigabyte only says F4. Noted any diference? I can't managed to get more than 242Mhz stable in my KN8S-ultra..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk
It seems that the layout of these boards looks exactly the same as K8NS Pro and K8N Pro so you probably can do the same vdimm mod as this one here:
http://219.113.251.125/c-board/c-boa...;tree=2245;id=
Direct mod sux for TCCD, adjustable one is better
lol, ok, when will you post Barr3l Rid3r's adjustable vdimm mod then? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
stop complaining! with some resistors you can drop it as much as you want anyways :)
all the informations in this post are from the K8NSNXP-939, but there is absolutely no difference between the k8nsnxp-939 and the k8ns ultra-939 except for the missing dps heatsink!Code:754 k8ns 2SATA+r 2PATA lan 1x2mb bios firewall 2fan headers aux audio game/midi
754 k8ns pro 4SATA+r 4PATA+r Gblan 2IEEE 2x4mb bios 3fan headers aux audio game/midi
754 k8nsnxp 4SATA+r 4PATA+r Gblan+lan 2IEEE 2x4mb bios firewall 3fan headers multis in bios aux audio game/midi dps
939 K8NS-939 2SATA+r 2PATA Gblan 1x2mb bios 3fan headers multis in bios
939 K8NSNXP-939 4SATA+r 2PATA Gblan+lan 2IEEE 2x4mb bios firewall 3fan headers multis in bios aux audio game/midi (gigabyte specs dont mention dps?)
939 K8NS u-939 4SATA+r 2PATA Gblan+lan 2IEEE 2x4mb bios firewall 3fan headers multis in bios aux audio game/midi
Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 nforce3
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/atta...chmentid=20036
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=20500&stc=1
Gigabyte K8NSN Ultra-939 nforce3
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=20501&stc=1
as you can see the boards are 100% identical
Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 nforce3
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/atta...chmentid=20036
Gigabyte K8NSN Ultra-939 nforce3
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=20501&stc=1
I haven't seen it noted, but I have a strange temp/probe issue it seems......
Everest tells me that my CPU has a blah blah blah sensor, an option in MBM is that same sensor, I also tried the crappy mobo software they call EZ tune..... so I use them all......
My CPU is supposedly 70c running burn in wizard ( on both) low priority...(high 60's idle)
I am running the stock AMD HSF, I was using the tim that comes with it ( figured I'd rev up the prom soon enough), but after seeing the temps ( I haven't payed attention till now) I took off the crap and spread a thin layer of AS5 on there.... boot up, same dealio ( starts off at 25 or so in EZ tune :rolleyes: , and climbs FAST idling)..
I usually don't even pay attention to temps at all, I was just wondering if anyone with this board has noticed that the temps may be just a SMIDGE ;) off....
Friggin AS5, I pulled off the HSF when the temps didn't change at all ( to check imprint), and the chip came with it!! Zif was locked too.
Bent a couple of pins, I was lucky to be able to bend them back.
Update:
EZ crap is now saying 106c !! lmfao.... MBM and Everest are sitting at 69c ( idle), and 70c during burn in.... uhhhhhhh yuh...... ok...
Does anyone know what temp sensor this board uses or how I can find out? I'm getting incorrect temps in MBM5 and CPUZ doesn't display sensor in mobo info.
EDIT:
I figured it out. I had to make MBM5 use ITE8712F-2 for the CPU and ITE8712F-1 for the CASE temperature.
To anyone reading this:
DO NOT BUY THIS BOARD
Thank you.
So far my K8NS ultra 939 is kicking the snot out of my Neo2 plat. with all of the same components.
Hopefully I find out whats wrong with the NEO2.
There is a new beta bios for the K8nsnxp 939 if anyone is interested.
http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/135963/k8nn939.zip
Edit: Fixed link according to Imperial Zeppelin
Edit#2- After some testing, folks at PC Perspective are not having luck with this bios. Performance seems to have gone down.
I was just told that the Link I used for the bios was wrong( I was given the wrong link), it had bios F7 there.
I have FIXED the link ( according to source) to CORRECT Bios- F8beta
m
Whats the reason Gigabyte doesn't have Bios 5 or 7 on their Web site?
I really hope the next one I get is a good one. The one I got is horrific.
Some folks run the NXP bios's without issues.
I don't bother yet, as right now I am trying out a NEO2.
BTW My Neo2 doesn't clock as well as my Ultra 939 yet.
ooo... F8 bios...maybe NOW i'll be able to even attempt overclocking the damn thing. i absolutely LOATHE this motherboard, its the K8NSNXP-939 - and i can't get over 205htt stable. My neo2 (R.I.P.) just decided not to turn on one day, but at least i could OC...this board, nothing...we'll have to see what happens with the new bios...thanks for posting it :)
Folks are saying that the F8 bios might hinder performance !!
I edited the above post earlier today.
Go HERE and read to the END:
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=369407
Um, thanx for the tip 5 months late! I may have to junk this board for an nforce4. Nothing but problems from day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by MUCHO
BTW, I'm still using the F4 BIOS. Gimme a reason to upgrade.
Hmmm - well - I have to change my tune. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MUCHO
The first board I had gave me problems - many problems. Could not boot at anything high htt - would freeze up at any memory speed over 200. I exchanged it for another board, and it is fantastic. Htt at higher speeds no problem. Memory as high as memory can go. In fact I am very happy at this time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...eenies/A64.jpg
:D:D:D
Still can't go higher that 240 Mhz HTT. I've changed everything except the board (new PSU, new mem's, new CPU, new HDD..) I've tried Bios F5 but much worse than F4, lot's of instabilities. Ate 245Mhz i've some radom locks. The HTT is 3x, i've tried all the voltages, all multipliers.
i also found f4 is much more stable than f5. i'm able to get the htt up to 270. anything higher i have to increase the ht voltage. i was able to get it up to 300, but i had to bump the htt up slowly (270->280->290->300). my 3000 winnie is prime stable @ 8 x 300, but it won't boot @ 300 htt :rolleyes:
my ram is a different story. i have 2x of kingston 3200a 512mb. they can do 205 at 2-3-2-6-1t, but not prime stable anything beyond that no matter how much i relax the timing and how high i increase the vdimm voltage. dont know if this is my ch-5 limit or motherboard issue. i have tried the ocz ddr booster and it doesnt work. also, i found the purple memory slots are a lot more stable than the orange ones. it would be perfect if i can do 8 x 300 w/ a 133 memory divider. i dont want to do 9 x 267 w/ 133 memeory divider cuz it is such perfromance hit for my ram to run @ 177. so rite now, i have it @ 9 x 250 w/ a 166 memory divider. wish i could push it a little more :(
I'm using the F6 BIOS and so far I can get to 245 fsb. Cant cold boot to that but at least I know I can get to it.
Haven't run benchmarks yet but I'll get to that soon. I crashed my system completely when I tried to overclock my X800XTPE and had to uninstall ATITool and reload the 4.12 drivers. The whole damn thing took me an hour!
So far the highest fsb I can cold boot to is 220. But I think I'm going to have to get some of that PC4400 to hang at over 245. I tried 250 and the memory doesn't like it.
hey everyone this is my first post here...
i've got a k8ns-ultra 939, and i tried the K8NSNXP-939 f7 bios, and somehow i managed to flash both the main and backup BIOS to K8NSNXP bios's - lol - i know that sounds sooooooo stupid... anyway the BIOS does not let my system boot even after shorting cmos jumper and taking battery out... but i took out 1 stick of ram, and it booted. phew... so I quickly flashed back, and have both sticks of ram in again...
Anyway, that was off-topic. Now, I'm currrently using TWINX3200XL 1gb 2x512mb dc set, and for 250 1:1 i have to run at 4x HTT. that's not bad apparently but i have to drop timings to 3-4-4-10... which is crappy, especially since this set was the best one out of 4 sets I had, it pulled 218 2-2-2 @ 2.8v on an nforce 2 motherboard, while the others maxed out between 208-212. Any tips on the other memory timings so that I can get 2.5-3-3-10 stable @ 250? Windows loads, and most things run ok-ish, but not prime stable, and games will eventually lock up.
lastly - this guide says it runs great with samsung TCCC... who has evidence to prove this? I've tried search function and i can't find people with OC results! I know where I can buy this RAM for dirt cheap - and if it could clock better than my TCCD 3200XL's i'd be very happy as I could get getting extra $ too.
That's great that you got windows to load @ 250 with pc3200! I can't even get a post with 250!Quote:
Originally Posted by groovetek
really? so i should keep this ram? and not give something else a shot?
3-4-4-10 is 100% stable @ 250... but yeah, 3-4-4-10 is damn relaxed - this memory is supposed to do 250 @ 2.5-3-3-x!!! argh... but it only does it half stable.
setting is 10 x 250, 1:1, 4xHTT, +0.2v ddr, +0.2v HTT, oh, and the RAM timing is 1T... Something tells me I should try 2T!
I get some impressive sandra numbers (like 6500mb/sec off the top of my head), but yeah, real life performance of 3-4-4-10 is pretty average. I might grab a DDR Booster if I find the $ to buy one...
using F5 BIOS... i've heard some comments about F4 being the best one for overclocking - is this true?
K8NS Ultra-939 nforce3
I'm considering getting this new board to use with these components:
Antec True Control 550,
Corsair PC3200LL TwinX v1.1 BH-5
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro,
Lian-Li PC-60USB Case
I know Asus A8V deluxe and MSI have some issues with these components and was concerned that Giga might also??
Wil they work together?
Feedback appreciated!
Yeah Guys! New biosses are out for both versions, NXP and ULTRA !! :banana:
And F7 for NXP finally kicks ass! Not cold boot issue when oc'ing anymore, i dont have to set the clock to 201 first, i just set 10x260 and it rocks! and in addition to that F7 is the first bios ever on the NXP to be displaying a CPU temperature with my winchester!! AWESOME !!!
K8NS Ultra-939: http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...20Ultra-939.htm
K8NSNXP-939: http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...K8NSNXP-939.htm
Which board do you have & like MUCHO?Quote:
Originally Posted by MUCHO
Yep, you and the guys at AMDMB ( PCPerspective now... lol) seem to love the newly released F7 bios for the Ultra 939/NXP.Quote:
Originally Posted by goddh0r
Ummmmmmmmm I went to both links provided ( the one here and at AMDMB), and cannot find F7 for the ULTRA...
One guy said he had to dl/update via the Qflash Utility, and save it instead of flash.
They don't have F7 just plain and simple available for DL ( ULTRA)?
Thx, but thats for the NXP.
Some folks have been able to flash the NXP bios (onto the Ultra), but I read another guy tried and couldn't boot, just recently.
why u wanna flash F7 on the ultra ?? F5 is the new bios for the ultra corresponding to the NXP's F7...
I believe I am already running F6beta on that board.
F7 BIOS already? I just flashed the F6. Ah, whatever helps.
The F7 BIOS is great. Finally I can cold boot all the way up to 260!
hmm... every BIOS seems the same so far...
i've tried anything up to 300mhz HTT... seems all good to me...
i have to drop to 3x HTT though... and have to run a ratio cos my ram isn't so good...
that's why i've sold my xms3200XL ram which no way capable of 300... and gotten some adata pc4000 - but yeah... ideally i'd run 260 1:1 anyway, so yeah, meh... gettig myself a winny today - finally... a newcastle that tops out at 2550 was kinda annoying so i sold that.
F5 bios on K8NS-939 Ultra seems to do the trick. I only got the board yesterday but so far liking it better over MSI. I can read my cpu temp (well, it says 193c-225c but I know what that means in negative :P) VX actually work well with divider on this one as well as TCCD behaving well, Played with FSB up to 320mhz which I will probably never actually use anyway. V-core mod was a cinch and using Booster atm. Layout is clean uncluttered and I actually like cmos jumper at reachable location :)
Waiting for my FX-55 to come back to me now :)
sounds good...
wow i'm running this at 325mhz HTT... memory is running at 260... prime stable.
i didn't know this board had it in him...
a k8ns-ultra 939 unmodded... 3200+ winny on air... the following setting is totally prime stable! the vcore shown there is actually wrong - it's because within the first few seconds of opening up CPU-Z it seems to show 1.400 instead of true vcore... true vcore is 1.52-1.56v. vHTT is at +0.2 (do i even need this?), and HTT is at 3x... ram is @ 260 @ 2.5-4-4-10 1T, but i've got an issue with the ram at the moment (2 x adata vitesta pc4000) its just not fully stable at 250 + , which is a bummer... i'm gonna try vio=vdimm mod today... I CAN'T EVEN FIND A LINK TO IT HERE - ANNOYING!
http://users.bigpond.net.au/groovetek/325HTT!.JPG
I am having issues with Geil PC4000 and this board (NXP) in that I can't raise the FSB over 205 at all, even if done by small increments or with CG. On the Asus A8V, this ram would do rated speed 1:1, 1T. Even using the 166 divider, I can only get to 201 mem speed (250 HTT) anything more and it has stability issues...
Oh yeah, with the F7 BIOS, I can't even see the option of Cool n Quiet in the BIOS anywhere, which may well be causing my issue (if it is defaulted to on) :confused:
How does the vanilla K8ns-939 stack up against the k8nsxp939 and the k8ns ultra-939, as far as overclocking is conserned.
should be identical?Quote:
Originally Posted by stayfrosty
it looks exactly like the other 2, but without dual-bios, and doesn't come with as many accessories.
I picked up a vanilla k8ns-939 today. The k8nsxp939 is to expensive and the k8ns ultra-939 wasn't even on their list. :stick: I wanted that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by stayfrosty
Will be installing it tomorrow and see how it performs vs my Neo2.
I ordered mine along with a 3200+ winnie as i found someone to sell my current stuff too so once I get it in ill post some screenies, same thing happened when i was looking to order the k8nsxp was like 180 and i didnt see the ultra so... i ordered teh vanilla
is anyone using tccd with this mobo + getting good results.
i've patriot tccd and i'm soon to buy a mobo, but it needs to be good with tccd.
No luck Jupiler?
Thought we would hear back from you by now.
Well,
The board performs pretty well.
Had no problems running 2*512 GSkill PC4800 LA chips at 262*10, 2.5-3-3-7, 1T, just like on the Neo2.
My cpu is maxed out at 2.7Ghz, 1.56-1.57V.
Can't get it clock any higher, despites increasing voltage.
VCore is pretty stable. Setting 1.50 in bios reads 1.50-1.52V constantly. Much better than the Neo2.
The Neo2 gives me booting problems if my sys if shut down for more than 5 hours (approx). The 8KNS doesn't give me that problem.
On the other hand :
the cooler is pretty loud (loudest part in my sys) and there's no way I can decrease the fan speed with Speedfan or Gigabyte's software.
I have a Silencer NV5 on my 6800GT, which comes pretty close to the cooler. Don't know if I can replace with something from the same size.
Argh. I have a silencer 5 on my xtpe. The vid card wouldnt seat all the way with it in my neo2. Hope I have decent luck with the giga.
Stupid design on the silencer I think. They could have moved the fan just a bit outward.
I should have my U939 on wednesday.
Glad to hear the gskill works well, I have 2x5 4400 LE. (I also have 2x5 pc4k ballistix)
Thanks for the feedback, good luck.
I just got my 3200+ winnie and k8ns-939 the winnie was week 47 and did 2.675 100% stable watercooled on stock voltage and 2.75 screenshot stable on stock voltage my ran sucks so I need to get some g.skill to keep up with the HTT.
Man, im so excited right now this board is great, forget the extra cost of the k8ns-ultra and the k8nsx, who needs those extra features this board owns!
Did you take off the noisy little cooler and check what week the chipset is?
I'd like to know what week yours is.
chipset weeks? thats something new to me, give me an example of how to read it and ill do my best to let you know
post the full code stmaped on your nb and we will tell you what numbers are the week year dates :)
its usually yyxx
yy=year xx=week of the year
JUP> I just got one a week 0451A2
My question Is. Are the sata ports locked and or connected to the agp bus so 67mhz agp will lock the sata ports??
there is only 2 ports on this plain jane version so I hope they lock :)
If those two ports are above the AGP slot then those are the 2 that are locked on my board (The ultra 939) - also the chipset has native support for SATA so no need to hit F6 when loading windows :)Quote:
Originally Posted by choseone214
Anyone know where I can get a better and or modded bios for this board?
With F4 I can use a 183 divider and run my memory at 263 but it has warm and cold boot issues.
With F5 I have no cold/warm boot issues but I can't use the 183 divider so I have to use the 166 divider and memory is being under utilized.
:confused: :stick: :confused:
This 939ultra is working alot better than my neo2 ever did.
I have 2x512 gskill tccd LE. The neo2 couldnt run trp or trcd @ 2 and it didnt like tras below 7. On the gigabyte 2/2/2/5/7/10 works flawlessly @ 212x13=2755,
My Fx55 maxes out around 2755+- (cache errors), and the 939U is equalling my neo2 cpu mhz overclock with less voltage.
I havent had a chance to try higher mem frequencies, to be honest I prefer lower latency because dual channel cpu's already have ample bandwidth imo. I dont think I can run 230x12=2760 @ 2/2/2, but I will try it when I have a chance. (I think 2.5/2/2/6 would be do-able, I'll have to compare.)
Imo the lowest possible timings @ their highest stable htt is better for gaming systems. (obviously there are situations where people need a high htt, such cpu's with a low multi making loose timings a nescessity.)
Voltages: The giga's voltages are pretty much rock steady, something my neo2 never was. My neo2 provided higher voltages but they werent stable. The neo 2 only has vcpu/mem/agp. The giga has cpu/mem/agp/vht.
NB chipset: No clearance problems with an xtpe running an ATI Silencer 4. It didnt fit in the neo2.
Sata ports: No clearance problems with the vid card. I would have purchased the epox, but it has bonehead sata port placement.
Bios: Came flashed to F1. I tried F6 and it broke the ddr 400 setting, forcing a memory divider. (184 i think) Tried F5 and it seems to be good, settled in with f5 for a while.
Memory timings: this board has much better timing options than the neo2. The neo 2 has only cas/trp/trcd/tras. The giga has all of those and much more.
Imo the ultra 939 is a better board than my neo2. My neo2 did drop dead, so it prob wasnt a prime example.
Ill head back to DFI for my next board, I love my 250UT. I have an agp xtpe, I dont think I'll upgrade again till the next gen cards arrive and I'll go pci-e then.
I was looking to get the agp 939 dfi, but this board is good enough to hold me over for a while so I changed my plans.
I guess this giga will be my last agp board. If it had higher vcore and vdimm I think it could have stolen alot of the thunder which the neo2 enjoyed. Imo alot of people picked the neo2 as the 939 front runner because of its higher voltages.
Great, is this a new board? When and where did you buy it from?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Lith1um
I bought my K8NS Ultra-939 from Newegg, received it wednesday.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...128-263&depa=1
The kn8s ultra 939 has been out for a while now, its not a new release or anything.
Thanks, looks like a winner! Did you have a good bios setup guide?