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afaik the asus rev 2 bord has the 1007 bios on it, and in the 1007 bios winchester support has been added iirc.
However the 1007 bios does not seem to lock the agp / pci as I read on the forums here, but the new beta 1008.002 isn't giving my any problems
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Originally Posted by YoupY
wtf no locks? that's impossible dude...!
:stick:
My rev. 2.0 didnt work with the Winchester out of the box! I needed to flash it to make it work!Quote:
Originally Posted by YoupY
And my PCI/AGP lock works fine?!
I have been using an MSI Neo2 Platinum (Nforce3 Ultra Chipset) but sold this in order to use the Asus A8V Deluxe Rev2.
After building the system, I powered it on and enetered the BIOS. The was no sign of my SATA HDD. then saved and exited be there was no starting of windows. IF I pressed TAB when prompted by the SATA Boot ROM I could see the HD in the array of one disk but I could not amaend anything. Then the Promise RAID detects the HDD but says bios is not installed. The PC then reboots.
I have tried disabling Promise controller and that does not help. If I try disabling the "onchip SATA BOOTROM" then the system doesnt get to POST before it says "NO HARD DISK DETECTED".
I have tried using SATA sockets 1 and 2. Aswell as SATA RAID sockets 1 and 2... none of them detect the HDD.
1) As I was running the same system on the last motherboard, do I need to reformat all the volume inorder to get rid of the old motherboard drivers??
2) What can I do for the single SATA HDD to be detected in the BIOS??
3) Does this sound like my HDD is damaged? But it is strange how the BIOS cannot see the HDD yet the Promise controller and BOOTROM know what type of HDD i'm using??
Please help me,
Many thanks
:)
Well you need to make a raid floppy first check your asus cd en make a floppy drive for the raid controler (there two of them) then when instaling windows xp pro click F6 to instal the drivers for your raid controler
good luck
is that the case, even if Im only using one HDD??
I am only using one Sata drive and that is the raptor... so I assume that the RAID thing isnot required??
yeah even for only one drive you need to instal the drivers
ok, thanx for that mate,
so how exactely do I do it? And do I have to reinstall windows on the HD as I only did it 2 weeks ago!?
when you change your mainboard its always wise to re-instal a OS on it because the configuration is probely diffrent from your MSI Neo board
Cashman boots off the windows cd and at the beginning press F6 when it prompts you to, to install a 3rd party scsi driver. Then after a little bit, it will go into your Floppy Drive and find the correct sata driver that corresponds with your controller and OS being used.
thanx mate! So I should have a floppy disk that came with my mobo yeah?? put this into the drive when it asks and it will find the appropriate drivers??
SO I do need to reinstall windows again?? even though its already on the HD?
Why is it that every other motherboard allows me to simply plug the Raptor in without any need for installing the drivers!
If you look under control pannel/administrative tools/computer management/device manager/ you should see "scsi/raid controlers listed." click on it and update the drivers using your floppy of whereever you store them.
Now go to computer management/disk management and you should see the raptor. Format if necessary and should be good to go.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I think I have read that you want to use sata slots 3 or 4 since they are the only ones which are locked for your board.
Cheers
yust wondering is the onboard via controler 3 and 4 or the promise controler? yust wondering whits one is lockedQuote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
Here's mine... However, the system is not stable at these settings... 315x9 1:1 (3-4-4-8-1T)..... My A8V Rev.2 seems to make the memory more stable when it's running at 2.7V, not 2.8... Other useful info is in my signature :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pkrew
Plz ohh plz tell me your bios setings.. atm I cant get more than 240 HTTx9.Quote:
Originally Posted by proxg
And yes i treid 245x8= nono, cant boot!
I have 2Xadata pc4500 like u, so i know its not the ram!
What exactly do you want to know about my BIOS settings ? This is on my A8V board, and you have the MSI...
By the way - it only allows me to boot at 300HTT Max. (no higher setting in BIOS) - I'm pumping it more in Windows....
EDIT: The first question that comes in my mind right now is did you lower the HTT multiplier to 4x or 3x ? (Not the cpu multiplier, but the HTT one... Its on 5x by default - HTTxHTT Multi should not exceed 1000MHz.....)
Sorry didnt change signature, i have the a8V atm :)Quote:
Originally Posted by proxg
240ht? that sounds like your bus isnt locked...
post your full system specs :)
my rev 2 is stuck around the 240fsb as well
mine is winchester 3500, mem is rated @ 250fsb but board wont boot @ that.
not even with lower multipiers
and 1t timings dont seem to work with this bios 1009.02 beta got it from asus.de
when im @ 2.65 ish around 140ish on 3d programs the system switchs off.
htt tried @ 600 and it dont make any difference?
btw runs 2.6ghz @ 1.6vcore 1.7 doesnt get me any more fsb at all
is it the board or the bios .
perhaps no locks?
It MUST have locks...
I'm doing 313x8 - that's 2500MHz @ 1.475 with no problems... I Haven't tried 325x8 yet, but i suppose it'll work fine... That's with the 1009.004 bios, had no problems with the 1008 at all! Just play with the bios, it gotta work ;)
you have 1009.004 , he has 1009.002, maybe the locks dont work on his bios version since its an earlier beta than yours...
proxg could u tell us what kind of chip u have on the A8V..i think most cap at 260 tbh...
Well, it's a 3000+ as you know, week 40... I don't remember the stepping...
Anyone having any luck getting the OCZ memory booster to work with this board? The OCZ compatibility chart states not compatible, I realize there is an OVP circuit (3.1vt?) will this work up until that point? I have a new DC kit of 2 X 512 3700 eb's that do 250 1:1 @ 2.8vdimm, tried 260 but would not work. I am currently running them @ Auto with the FSB at 260 X 10, the memory bus shows up as 217, or 6:5 ratio. (in everest)
I have gotten the CPU to run stabily @ 275 but with higher voltage, but I am not comfortable running @ 1.75 on air cooling.
Edit: Why isn't my siggy showing up here, it shows in my other posts?
Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
does this ram work for this ?
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-305&depa=0
does this board work ok with all 4 ram slots filled ? how much difference in performance in real world terms is seen between using 1t and 2t command rate ?
With my OCZ PC3700eb's (2 X 512) there was a 1000 point increase from 2T to 1T (sandra bandwidth score)
here is a couple of links to research on:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=47232
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...82&postcount=1
thanks .. there was a lot of good info there.
i have a pair of 256mb modules of mushkin black memory so am trying to decide between a 3500+ or instead get a 3000+ and another 2 sticks of 256mb
I just switched over recently from Intel, and I remember reading somewhere that the 939 platform didnt care too much for 4 sticks of memory. I breifly had 4 X 512 sticks in mine ok, the only thing was it was limited to latency timings of the weaker set of Adata PC4000.
Have you been able to use BH-5 sticks alright with A8V? I have, besides A8V, 3000+ winchester and 2x256mb KHX3200 BH-5. I can't run the system stable even at 200mhz on the memory. When memory speed is 200mhz, it won't even go to windows. 166mhz works fine. What could be the problem? :confused:
really glad I just found this thread, im having a few problems getting stabilty.
I have:
FX53, Ocz Platinum 3200 Rev2, 74gb Raptor, A8V Deluxe Rev2, 6800 Ultra, Antec 550w.
I was running the system with the 1009.002 bios and at 245fsb I was getting random BSOD and reboots or not rounding errors on SuperPi. (2.5-3-3-10 1T 2.8v) at 200fsb 2-2-2-5 it worked without probs. It seems from this thread that the 1009 early bios (oo2) has problems over 240htt?
I think I will try finding the 1009.004 beta bios and see if that helps. When trying 2T everything seems to be ok but I could really do without the 1000pts loss.
Also is the HTT freq best left at 800mhz, 1000mhz or 600mhz? I know on the Neo2 is HAS to be 3x (600mhz) in order to get any overclock at all.
Could anyone please post screen shots of their "memory configuration" under the Bios... many thanx :)
ps.... is there any reason to upgrade my PSU from an Antec Truepower 550w to either a PCP&C 510 Turbo Deluxe or OCZ powerstream 520w ??
How can i increase The Vdimm in bios without this Vdimm-Mod ? and where can i set Vcore in Bios?
htt max. is still 300?
have somebody a link for 1009-003 bios?
Hi, im new to this forum and in my other forum nobody could help me.... so here's my system
A8V Wireless Edition Rev2.0
A64 3200+ Winchester
2 x 256MB Corsair Platinum Edition PC4000
my problem is that i cant go over 230MHz FSB :( this is because i cant put the vcore over 1.450 volts... it dusnt matter how much i set, i always get 1.45! how can i change this? I got the BIOS 1008.003, if I flash it, will it go higher?
greetz
bios 1009.006
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/Asus%..._7_35sekpi.jpg
What settings have you changed from default in the bios to achieve 300fsb? andy mods at all? I can only get around 280 to be stable, anything above that and i just get random lockups. I also know I am not cpu limited so I am pretty sure it is the mobo :) Thanks for the help.
I'm having problem running even at default speeds (loose timing) at 1T. Totally unstable..blue screen and/or prime fail immediately.
Using double sided samsung tcc5's which are supposed to be DDR466 (Adata brand)
Don't have another pair of ram to test. It's ok though running single channel on a piece of D43.
Do you guys think it's the board, rams or the winnie?
am I likely to have the stability problems using a MAch II GT on this board with the 1009.006 Bios and an FX53?
Are the cold issues solely with the Winchesters?
By the way... the 1009.007 BEta's are out :) Just got mine but cant tellt he diffeence just yet
Folks, I'm looking to expand the Case Files and the memory compatability sections in this thread at OCF:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=332591
Please send me a pm or email me at: super_nade at yahoo dot com. with the format in this post:-
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...00&postcount=8
Any contributions will be appreciated.
Probmaker:
AFAIK No Rev 2.00 boards are wireless edition ones (Please correct me if I'm wrong).
Usually you would have to flash to the 1005.002 or 1005.003 BIOS to get the PCI/AGP locks working. No other BIOS version seems to have helped (again, I'm not too sure).
You may have to reset the CMOS to solve your voltage problems. It is surely a BIOS error. Try flashing to a 1009.xxx beta and see if that helps before you rest the CMOS, as it could save you some time.
Cashman:
Are you facing any problems with the x.007 ? Any changes in the settings?
ADATA 4400's have problems with this MoBo. A few guys @ OCF have complained about this. Same symptoms. Somebody was talking about spurious ADATA modules @ OCF (mainly about the PCB's used) but this was in the context of a shady reseller.Quote:
Originally Posted by sotr
Test your MoBo with some other RAM. Also, are you @ 2.8V VDimm?
You may find this interesting:-Quote:
Originally Posted by bottle
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=352040
I've actually RMA'ed (swap) my rams before this with a new pair from Adata taiwan themselves. Both has the same result. So I suppose this is a case of components not liking each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Nade
Also tried all the vdimm settings but no luck as well.
On bios 1008.3 now...maybe I'll give the 1009.7 a try.
Any suggestions? Should I rid the rams or the board?
Edit: I'm using these but as opposed to the crappy pic. The chips on these are revision E Samsung TCC5 that nobody seems to be using
http://www.adata.com.tw/en/products-d-un-ddr466.htm#
I'd get rid of the RAM.
I'm not saying ADATA is a flaky company, but sadly in this case there seems to be an incompatability. I must say that 2 or 3 people reporting problems isn't a definitive cause for panic (more data is required) it does mean that you guys were stuck with a problematic batch.
This is the thread I was referring to:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=347893
Read the posts by Joor. We tried different things (communicated by pm) but nothing worked.
Hope this helps!
S.N
Thanks for the help..
For reference sake.. these rams are Adata DDR466 with Samsung K4H560838E-TCC5 chips.
Edit: Any suggestions for budget rams? Would Kingston D43's do for a moderate 240htt? It's in Asus's recommended list?
is there any way you can get rev 1.02 to work with winchester and still have pci lock?
I know clawhammer can be used with 1005.002 with PCI lock.
But what about winchesters?
msi neo2 or one of the new nf4 boards that are showing up.Quote:
Any solutions for winchester users?
I am about to drop this on the road below my apartment.
well i would rather buy one more new rev 2.0 A8v than go for MSI K8N neo2( I have 2 A8V dlx for my 2 A64 systems. 1 is 1.02 and other is 2.0).
I have gone through MSI board with headache and its a lot more expensive in India than a8v dlx.
I was asking about solution for A8V deluxe rev1.02
funkymonkey:
Clawhammers and Newcastles work with the 1005.002 BIOS.
I don't think there is a solution to your problem. Again, you may have to run through all the BIOSes >1007.xx (betas included) to see what works. AFAIK none of the final versions work. You may get lucky with a beta. I'm curious to know what ASUS Tech support say abt this?
sotr:
I would recommend any ram with TCCD chips i.e the PQi Turbo or Corsair XMS series.
Also, GSkill 4400 guarentee 275MHz. You may also want to check this place out:-
http://www.komusa.com/ddr.html
Finally,
BH-5 would be pretty useless IMHO because you cant feed it the Volts it needs to really shine.
Good Luck!
S.N
If you are willing to wait for a few months, go with DFI. It is worth the wait and you won't regret it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by choseone214
Hi Folks, a few days ago, I stepped from Intel PIV2.8E (3.8GHz) to this AMD64 (winchester 3200+ A8V deluxe setup).
I scratched my head, flashed the bios to 1009.006 (after reading all these very useful posts) and got this baby running 2750Mhz with a nice 32seconds SuperPI result (I needed 3800Mhz on the Intel to achieve 35s).
Temp readings seem rather low...
Case is Lian-Li, intake: 120mm titan@5V (sidepanel) and papst 80mm@12V (1500rpm). Outtake: 120mm titan @5V (top) and papst 80mm@12V (1500rpm).
PSU is OCZ Powerstream 520W
Watercooling consists of (external from case), reservoir 5liters, Eheim 1250, X2 radiator with 2x Enermax120mm (lowest speed) and Zalman ZM-WB2.
The only mod I did to the mobo is placing an old Zalman Northbridge cooler on the northbridge.
The screenshot is taken with f@h running at 100% for three days (24/7)...
I just started superPI with process-priority to realtime... (did not close f@h)
No stability issues (played FarCry, Doom3 and UT2004 for several hours)...
Strange thing is, room temperature 20.5°C, air from outtakes is absolutely cold, watertemp also... I went to the shop to buy a few temp-probes from CompuNurse to make sure the temp-readings are correct...
(gpu is FX5700 atm, 9800XT rma :s)
I'm using OCZ lld ed. PC3200 2-2-2-5 @ stockspeed atm, asynchronous with cpu... Will try some OCZ PC4000 EL Dual CH Gold ltd's 2.5-4-4-8 when I find some time too check if I gain some performance by running them synchronous with this cpu.
If anyone has more tips and tricks to get optimum performance, please post them... (I know, I should try to go higher, but right now, I need the rig, so I cannot push it and work at the same time :-()
http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/2..._HTTx4_32s.JPG
Damned OCZ PC 4400 EL Dual CH Gold Limited edition 2.5-4-4-8 doesn't go over 250Mhz 1:1 ...
Still using bios 1009.006 ...
Get strange spd readings too (cpu-z): 2.5-6-6-11, 277Mhz
I tried these mothers on an Neo2 in august, they ran 295 and they did 270 on my Intel rig :-( -->2.8Volts
Sollution anyone???
temps look ok.. here is mine http://web50.dk/joor/39grader.JPG
39 right after i did superPI
Anybody tested their stock PI 1MB results with 3000+ winnie, A8V, dual channel running default everything (as in stock clock, loose timing and 2T)
I need some reference to troubleshoot. Thanks.
ps: I'm getting an OMFG 48sec with 3-4-4-8 2T :cry:
@Joor: thanks for posting your results, I verified my temps and in reality they are 2 or 3° higher than what the asusprobe reports, so I can live with that ;-)
? Can you tell me the biosversion you are using ?
@sotr: 48 seconds for those lousy timing is pretty normal on a winnie 3000+
You should gain at least 1 second by changing from 2T to 1T (set the 2T thingy in bios to "disabled") and gain maybe another second when changing to the latest bios (changing from 1008.002 to 1009.006 sure helped me)...
When I booted the winnie 3200+ for the first time I got a 44second superPI score, so no worries, this baby will live up to you expectations.
:confused: Anyone knows about the differences between 1009.006 beta and 1009.007 beta :confused:
Im using 1009.004 atm
The 1009 final is out btw: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...xe/A8V1009.zip
Sweet! Thx man!
Funny thing is, I checked the site one hour ago and it still said 1009.007 beta until then :D
Humz... just flashed to 1009 final...
Nothing seems to have changed :(
Well yes, there is a change, bios vcore reading is as wrong as in 1008.003...
Was correct in 1009.006... strange...
Will do more testing next year...
tell me if i'm right i was using 1008 bios on the a8v with my fx-53 939 pin was clocking to 2.9 ghz with 200 fbs and 14.5 multiplier and i noticed that my system woudl crash when i leave it on i had a vapo also . at -48c . is this random lockup's due to condensation in the pins becaue i have not put any dilectric greese on the pins. i was wondering is this beacuse of agp locks or the vapo condecation. and for some reason i cant seem to boot up at 3.0 ghz i think its agp lock i sent my board back to asus for repair on the memory controller i messed up recently. will they give me rev2.0 board or will they give me the same 1.02 board ? :stick: :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by cubanyayo
Mate... I have this same board, FX53 and a Mach II GT (instead of your Vapo).
The problem is because you are using the 1008 Bios. This BIOS only has a max vCore of 1.75v and to get 2.9ghz or 3ghz you will need 1.8v to 1.85v. This is what I need! if you go get BIOS 1006 final (1005.027) then you have a max vCore of 1.8v and will clock higher :)
All bios revisions are here mate... ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/
Hey Im hoping you can help me. I have an A8V Deluxe Rev2. I have tried alot of diffrent things trying to pass 2.2ghz stable. Let me start off with my specs. Sorry about the long post ...........Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
Quote:
--------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc.
Version EVEREST v1.51.195
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2005-01-16
Time 20:50
CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3200+
CPU Alias Winchester S939
CPU Stepping DH7-D0
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
CPUID Revision 00010FF0h
CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2002.43 MHz
CPU Multiplier 10.0x
CPU FSB 200.24 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 200.24 MHz
CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-0907-000001-00101111-122204-ATHLON64$A0036001_BIOS Date: 12/22/04 19:53:52 Ver: 08.
Motherboard Name Asus A8V Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T
SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 12/22/04
Video BIOS Date 06/07/04
DMI BIOS Version 1009.007
Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
GPU Code Name NV40GT (AGP 8x 10DE / 0045, Rev A1)
GPU Clock 399 MHz
Memory Clock 552 MHz
Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 24 °C (75 °F)
Tcpu 29 °C (84 °F)
Fcpu 2033 RPM
Fcase 3444 RPM
Fpowersupply 3709 RPM
Vcore 1.46 V
Vio 3.41 V
Now, I have tried turning off fast writes, upping the vcore and ram voltage. As well as loosening the timins. I achieved 2.2 stable windows boot at 2-2-2-5. I passed 3dmark 10times. However playing my game RTCW, wolfenstein, I get alot of crashes. I had some of the same crashes in Half Life2. Where its either a blue screen with a memory error or just the screen freezes and the sound freezes as well. A long beep most of the time. Coming off a long Intel fanboy tour of duty, i find Overclocking this platform very confusing. I was hoping that one of you Using an A8V+3200 939 + 1GB of Corsair XMS LL 2-2-2-5 rated memory could give me some settings to achieve a solid OC as well not have to use timings that are tooo loose. Im seeying many ppl achieve crazy OCs with this board on air and with my memory. Please help. Im an enthusiast, but I cant seem to grasp the whole, ratio and timings this platform. Thanks in advance!
:confused:
Oh yeah at stock I run %100 stable. No problems whatsoever. On my OC Prime 95 stops at like 15mins. Same crashes happen at 3-4-4-6, 1T and fast writes off. Memory 2:1.
This is my post on other forum. If it helps.
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86977
Is the gentleman above getting above 2.6 hitting that because his multiplier is 196 X 14? Is that the magical equation. Lower the memory speed and use a higher multiplier? If so please let me know if I should use same timings and ratio as above.
I'm sorry, I wasn't reading about AMD anymore since I sold the winnie...
I happen to be a HT-addict and needed an Intel rig again ;-)
i560 on the way :banana:
Problem with the A8V deluxe (even rev.2) is the poor 1:1 performance... (with bios 1009)
So that's the reason why I needed to use that strange divider...
Other people here seemed to reach higher 1:1 frequencies with bios 1008, so you might try that...
By the way, you upped the vcore, I guess?!
All the info you need should be in the screenshot ;-)
Nothing fancy about it... running 1T...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Obi-wan Kenobi
The problems in games is because of the via agp driver. You must install that one provided my microsoft in service pack 2. Look this how to do it : http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...20AND%20driver
Quote:
Originally Posted by soki
But the thing is Im getting these crashes with my overclocks. Not on standard settings. I hate this memory. I see people all over the place hitting atleast 2.2 and exactly my specs. I loosen the timings a bit and nothing, same crashes in game. I think this memory is only able to do 2.2.2.5 on standard settings. It does achieve what it promises. But on this platform it seems you have to tweak the hell out of all the settings to walk away with nice OC. On intel, you just get high rated ram, UP the bus and loosen the timings and Bam, super OCs. I ran my old prescott 2.8 to 3.7 on air using Kingston HyperX PC4000 @ 3-4-4-6. Im having NO luck with this board. Dont get me wrong, by no means is this a crappy computer. This baby is fast, I just want to push its envelope and squeeze the goodies out of it. You know? :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
First, to use a higher memory bus, drop the HTT in Bios to 4 instead of 5.
Second, drop the menory timings to 2.5 3 3 10 1T (by disabling 2T command)
third putmemclock on Limit 2:1 400 instead of auto
Raise memory voltage to 2.7 instead of auto (2.8 volts do not work on some memory combination?)
Raise cpu voltage to 2.5 to start. You can go up to 2.60 if needed later on.
first try at 220FSB and 10 multiplier.
You slould be able to boot at these settings.
By using CPUZ and clockgen program, check if the memory is working at 220FSB divider 10 with CPUZ.
Use clock gen to up the FSB slowly to find the limit. You should be able to go much higher.Use SuperPi to check stability at each step.
You can also change the multiplier in Windows with clockgen.
Monitor your cpu temperature, stay below 55C.
Have fun.
Once you find your max, change the settings in BIOS to the required freq.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lola
Sweet. Finally I understand. You my friend are a genious. I want to have your babies. I have read a million post everywhere but they were from ppl that have a better grasp of this platform. Thanks for the help
:toast: :banana: :banana: :banana4:
My memory topped out at 225mhz 2.5-3-3-6 (i tried 10) I wont go a drop over 225. I did pass SuperPI 32M, and 3dmark looped. Now, that I have found this out, Would i be able to push this any further with better memory. Also, How much does lowering the HTT to 800 effect the performance. If i do my math right...... now that Ive lowered it to 800, my memory running at 225 X 4 would give me a 900mhz bus. Is that right? My everest benchmarks are way up after i lowered the HTT and did my overclock. Please explain if i am taking a hit on performance by doing so. I couldnt get my CorsairXMS stable with HTT1000 and the memory running anything past 205mhz.
new BIOS out : ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...e/1010-002.zip
Can't wait to get home and try it :D
By the way I give up on this motherFunken board and platform. From the get go its been nothing but a pain. I had to try 4 motherboards in order to get my baby to boot. All that after i had to do weird shat to get it to boot. I cannot get this board stable past 2.2ghz. That blows. Sure I settled on this only because this was the only one to post with my 3200+ 939 proc. But still. I pass ALL benches and it crashes on crappy ET. Im going back to Intel. I never had a Proc not boot, I could easily push the bus to OC, and I never had to worry about getting the voltage, timings, ddram voltage, fast writes, and all this other crap in sequence just to get stable. F that. Sorry Ive ranted, I know that alot of you have had good experiences but Im fed up. Peace. :p:
u sure its the mobo? 5 boards is alot...
I think this was the only board with a recent bios at the time that could boot. USing the place the dimm in the third slot trick and than using afudos. None of the other boards even booted. Nothing. No post. I will admit, that this is a fast platform, But when you want to push it,,,,,.... just even a tad. I cant get it to go anywhere. I checked all my voltages etc and have used all the tweaks possible. I even took out this ram, took out the hyperX 4000 from my prescott 2.8 build out. The hyperX (higher speed rated memory) still gets crashes even though passing all test, with the timings of 3-4-4-8. I took the Corsair 2-2-2-5 Rated Memory and it ran my 2.8 to 3.4 with no problems at 3-3-3-6 without having to do anything. It passed all benchies and played my game without any crashes. I even have a cheaper thermaltake 420psu in there. I just dont get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by enzoR
Plus on stock i can play every single game in my collection and no crashes. I up the memory 5mhz and crash. I het this. Bye.
I just got a v2.0 A8V and a 044 3000+ winnie. New machine i built to replace my barton 2500 @ 218x10. I went with a VIA chipset instead of a Nforce to give VIA a chance again. I havent had a VIA board in AGES.
Whats the deal with the AGP drivers in the 4 in 1? I have installed the 4.51 drivers and find them to run pretty good. If i dont run with them , i get a tad less performance in benches.
So far im prime stable at 238x9 @1.5v my ram is running 8-3-3-2.5 @ 2.7v. Im running Sync with FSB....HT is 1000 (x5). I do have a few strange questions though.
In regards to HT@1000 vs 800, is there anything to be lost of gained from either?
*EDIT* I got the USBs working...for some STUPID reason...my Coolermaster case has the 1394 connector in BLUE....yes the same BLUE that the USB headers on my board has. I had them plugged in backwards. I guess i didnt cause any damage to the board, it seems to be working now. Even though doing it, says it will damage the mother board in the manual.
I cant remeber stepping of my chip, but it seems to me that i might be able to run higher then this. I have got into windows at 245 x 9 but get all sorts of weird BSOD shortly after.
Specs listed below are correct for new machine
HT 800 with an fsb of 250Mhz equals HT 1000 with an fsb of 200Mhz...
So on the HT-side, there is no difference in performance between the two...
When overclocking, x4 (HT800) is the setting to go for.
People with very good memory who are able to do more than 275fsb will have to swich to x3 (HT600)...
On most boards, 1100Mhz on the HT side is no problem (HT800, x4, 275Mhz fsb). Some will reach even 1200, but I couldn't keep the A8V stable at 1200...
--> 245*5 = 1225Mhz (that's what you tried) seems to be too high for your board (causing those bsod's)
--> switch back to HT 800, up the fsb to 250Mhz and feed the vCore 1.55Volt
Ah yes, the TCCD-chippies will be happy with 2.8V, 2.5-3-3-7 should work fine until 260-280Mhz, depending on the quality...
Last thing, don't forget to set the AGP/PCI fequency fixed to 66.66/33.33...
OneyedK : How did you manage to get to 1200 HT ? Because I have noticed that if I leave HT 5x (1000) and I pass a certain fsb (~210-220 MHz I think) it will auto-drop to 4x (it will not show in the BIOS, but if you check CBID or any other utility that shows you the HT freq. you'll notice that you are running at 4x HT).
HighLife : Have you tried a little more vcore ? The A8V undervolts by ~0.05V and the vcore is not that stable as well. So your 1.5v will in fact give you some 1.40v-1.45v, depending on the quality of your PSU. As a general advice you should lower your HT to always keep it under 1000 MHz (but somehow my board seems to lower it automatically from 5x to 4x ... not sure if any board does that).
HT speed was set to 800 in bios...
so actually that's x4
so with 300Mhz fsb you get an actual 1200Mhz HT
--> wich I could not get stable :(
--> 1100Mhz or 275Mhz fsb was no problem at all...
the autodrop from x5 --> x4 works, but it stays there afterwards, so if you get to high in fsb x 4, the thing simply crashes or gets unstable...
I set it to 1000 and bench/prime.....ran fine at 240x9 1.55v in bios (speedfan and asus show 1.55-1.6). 7 3 3 2.5 timings.
I turned it down to 800 and rebooted, set to 245 and it wasnt stable =(
Im using pretty good ram...TCCD seems to have high rating for overclocking. Im using PQI PC3200 Turbo 2x512.
I think im limited to my chip....oh well.....369mhz overlock isnt bad for a chip that cost me 100$ used. =)
Still running 1:1, are you???
A8V maxes out at that speed... (around 240Mhz)
You will get better results if you run is asynchronous with your ram at 2-2-2-5...
I just installed my A8V back in,till I get my DFI NF4 sli board.
I got the A8V upto 280 x 10, 1:1 on my ram. :cool:
:eek: No :banana::banana::banana::banana:! That's awesome! Guess you achieved that with bios 1008???
--> memory was not the problem (did 275 2.5-3-37 on P4C800 E deluxe)
Was actually OCZ PC3200 plat.rev.2 tccd
--> cpu did 280 async
My conclusion was that it only could be the board/bios...
But someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse and I sold the whole rig before I could test some more... Exploring lga-limits atm :banana4:
Yep, I am currently using bios 1008.
My A8V seems solid now that I did the droop & vddr mods to it.
how much have u managed to get HTT ?
346HTT
this is mine ;)
btw, this is a great mobo, i just have problems with Twinmos 2x256MB and A-Data 512MB memory.. they wont work(doesnt boot :( ) together, i think its because the A-Data is double sided and twinmos single sided.. have to change those to get 1GB ..
ps. 512MB of memory sucks!
pss. greetings from finland =) (new on this board..)
Never got over 300, it's at 275 I got the highest corespeed...
Pushing HTT left me with lower corespeed and worse performance...
I got my A8V system a month ago along with my winchester 3200+.
Im using bios ver. 1009 final.
Also i have a pair of Corsair twinX XMS4000pro 1Gb dualkit.
I cant however get them to run 1:1 (or in the bios 2:1). It just goes black. not even bios screen. And thats at 250MHz FSB.
I can however get my FSB up to 260 (more would be great but nooooo :-(..) and then set my ram to auto. Then they run at 216MHz. the system runs fine at this point.
But im disapointed that i cant run my RAM at 1:1 and with my watercooled rig i cant get the FSB over 260MHZ either...
Anyone got any ideas??
It's the bios... Flash it back to 1008 and get some nice 1:1 performance back...
Well i couldnt go 1:1 before 1009 so i dont think that will help. But i'll give it a shot.
But another thing just came up. Suddenly after i got my geforce 6800 i cant get the the FSB any higher than 250MHz :confused:
The system crashes randomly at 260MHz and some of my programs actually died and needed to be reinstalled.
has anyone tried 1010.02?
I was wondering something myself. Its not a .AMI file....so basically do i have the change the extention to read av1010.ami ?
1010.003 is already out ... I've tried 1010.002, but didn't noticed any dfferences .. the same goes for 1010.003
EDIT : ftp://ftp.asuscom.de/pub/ASUSCOM/BIO...e/1010__03.zip
thanks, do i have to rename this to .ami before i flash it?
I would suspect your PSU is a little too weak for the new video card. Also, did you do a fresh install of the OS?Quote:
Originally Posted by m@d-m@x
Nope, you don't have too :D ... just write it. I usually use the Asus Update from Windows. Just select "Update BIOS from a file" and select the BIOS you want to write.
It is recommanded to leave the "Clear CMOS" checkbox on :D ... After a flash to 1010.002 from 1009 final, my 1.50vcore jumped to 1.70vcore, while in BIOS I still had the same 1.50V slected. After selecting another value (1.525v), rebooting and selecting again 1.500v, the vcore "problem" was solved.
kewl thanks, i never knew you could pick the file to update with the ASUS updater. I thought it always had to pull it off the web. Kewlness....i dunno if i should do this or not....i mean, 1009 working fine i guess....and you say there is no difference between them...so maybe just wait and see. Im getting a MSI Neo2 to play with tomorrow. I wanted to test out both VIA and Nforce for a fair comparison of each.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorp
Is everyone hear using the Promise controller? Anyone using the Via controller and have a FSB above 240?
Update- I sucessfully moved to the Promise controller from the via. Also all of the walk throughs dont tell you to use the drivers mark IDE instead of the RAID drivers in the Promise folder on the disc. I downloaded the RAID driver off Asus's site and it DOES NOT include these drivers. I did notice that with Sandra File System benchmark, that i dropped 3 megs. I scored a 47mb with VIA controller and 44 with the promise, could this prove that the VIA isnt locked?
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Originally Posted by HighLife
Well it didnt help my overclock at all. I still only able to hit 240, must be my chip. I know this ram will do 260. Oh well, will have my NEO2 here to test on friday...
and btw for those who dont know....
RAZER DIAMONDBACK IS THE BEST EVER!
Running 250 FSB 24/7 with SATA on VIA. And I had absolutely no problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLife
Ok back from the dead boys. I sold my 3200XL 1GB Corsair kit and traded it in for PDP Patriot 3200+XBL and that did the trick. I new it had to be the memory because I went on a ton of diffrent forums and performed every trick that was advised to me. The revision on that corsair memory was 1.1. I dont know if that matters. I think that both versions are based on the TCCD chips. I wonder how come they couldnt run stable on any OCs on my baby. Im now happily pushing 2.3ghz at 2-3-3-6 1T 2.7volts, 5.25 core. HTT 800. I passed Prime95 torture test as well I now can play all meh games. This puppy is blazing fast. Im sure I could push it much further, but this is good for now. I dont see another 100-200mhz giving much of a gain in my games. I have my 6800GT OCed to ultra speeds, and I havent had any slow down in games yet. Ok end of my crappy rant. Im glad I didnt give up on this board, and give it a bad name. It is solid. Peace out.
PS
Thanks for all the help.
Hey what does the HTT effect? I ran benches on 1000HTT and 800HTT and I dont see any diffrence. What does it do as far as performance goes. On intel I notice going fron 533mhz bus to 800mhz bus was huge(least I noticed)
The HTT has a very minimal impact on performance. Basically the HT bus is used only to communicate with the PCI cards or with the AGP card, as the memory controller is placed on the CPU.
On Intel platforms however the bus is used for transfers with the memory. So an increase in FSB, will also give you more available bandwidth for memory transfers and the P4 is a very bandwidth-hungry architecture.