Man those gigabyte board kinda suck! :) Umm. DO they like OCZ 3700EB ram and what kinda voltage do they give for vcore+Vdimm? Is it unmodded or are you using a booster?
Man those gigabyte board kinda suck! :) Umm. DO they like OCZ 3700EB ram and what kinda voltage do they give for vcore+Vdimm? Is it unmodded or are you using a booster?
Is that Bh5? 2x256?Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRed
yeah 2x256 BH5 @ 3.60VQuote:
Originally Posted by ant1
the giga board can really push the mem once you do the 3.3V bypass mod (or use a booster). My only beef with this board is the lack of high Vcore ... limited to around 1.95V before it goes bang (or so Ive heard ... since I aint going to try and find out ;) )
EDIT : wrong Vdimm voltage :D
Héhé good sucking dude :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRed
I think this problem of vcore is due to wrong Vmod , i found it but i'm not Hipro or others , when i connect the mod i hear the M/B screaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by CodeRed
Somebody electro qualified can Look at this motherboard ??
I wonder where ABIT hide their nForce3 board? anybody know?
I'm waiting for that board.... :(
Abit says no to Nforce 3 250Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Abit is not that Abit was :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
they loves Via now , and O.wu isn't there.They ll probably come back with nf4 , we ll see......
Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
I am an electrical engineer ;)
I shouldve had a poke around before installing the prom and covering everything in seal string ... instead I just did the standard mod and crossed my fingers. Solving the Vcore fluctuation under load would make this the No 1 mobo (arguably).
yes , but without mod there is always the 0,1v increase , apprently it's normal on NF3250's Mobos.
I tried the m/b without cpu , and with these vmod , the M/B shutdown just after the power on.
I measure the voltage on the two ISL and it was the same without vmod , i wanted to connect their pins +VR but at the last moment i give up the try.
There is no reason this m/b can't accept more than 2V , K8N 754 accept.
The problem is those 2 ISL , i think when you do the vmod , and pull vcore at more than 1,9v , a potential difference between them is causing the death of the board.
Good luck codered , i'm with you ;)
Abit are pretty poor now, certainly going for gimmicks over good clocking boards. DFI is what Abit used to be, its good DFI has a good rma service considering how iffy their boards can be.
Bravo to them though, very good customer service, great company.
here's the ePOS lol 100% unmodded fastest 1T ect.
http://img33.exs.cx/img33/1259/epox253x10.th.jpg
So I guess overall, the MSI is the winner if you can get around the quirks. The asus is in 2nd if you don't need more than 3.15vdimm, and Gigabyte is third?
for me the gigabyte is first.
I know some guys happy with it .
All the gigabyte are the same , and works very very fine with some rams , tights timings , totally rockstable.
The only problem is past 2Vcore , but i'm not sure A64 needs them.
As you could see i ran it with 4X512Mo w/o problem in 2T about 230mhz
" " " 2X512Mo " " " 1T about 250 mhz
2x256 278 mhz 2 2 2 2 31s@2577mhz.
I never seen the MSI do the same and Totally stable.
Somebody can do those tests ?
more eye candy from a crappy epox and a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty newcastle. thats all air, 100% unmodded no tricks ect. Gonna hook up the A/C and drop ambients down tonite and go for 245+x11 1:1. vdimm mod supplies ordered, should be here wed. also my ddr booster should be here wed. also.
http://img71.exs.cx/img71/5302/240x11superpi.th.jpg
If you read the linked article that Abit says no to Nforce 3...you may have noticed this at the top:
* CORRECTION Abit said that it is committed to using the Nforce 3 250, despite what the article says below. The misunderstanding appears to have arisen because people in the factory do not know Abit's roadmap, the head office in Taiwan said today. Apologies to Abit and to readers. 11 June 2004. Ed.
Which MSI mobo of the 3 available is doing the highest FSB?
MSI K8T Neo2-F VIA K8T800Pro w/ GB LAN, Audio
MSI K8T Neo2-FIR VIA K8T800Pro w/ GB LAN, IEEE 1394, SATA RAID more
MSI K8T Neo2 Platinum VIA K8T800Pro
These are the 3 939's I was thinking go with the raid but is there raid on the pro?
Ahhhhh....stop. Put down that motherboard list and back away quickly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mike.elmes
Seriously, stay far far away from the K8T NEO2 boards. The locks do not work...period. I went through 3 of these damn boards before I realized that the locks simply do not exist at all. Go over to the MSI forums and confirm this. If you are looking for a higher HTT stay away from the K8T NEO2.
Thanx Mike!!
What board(939) Plays well with OCZ 3700 eb (2x512) and gets the highest FSB?? Asus? :stick: I am doin an FX-55 under my prom mach1.soon as the fx can be found. I am just really unsure about the board, seems to be a tough call until NF4 arrives.
Which board has a working PCI/AGP lock?
tia
mike
In order of choice:
MSI K8N NEO2 (NF3) - a bit quirky, but a great stable overclocker. sata ports 1/2 do not lock, but 3/4 do. manually set agp to 67mhz to lock the bus, leaving it at 66 does not lock. temp reporting is goofy. All that said, I have had 2 of these mobos OC great (280 to 300 htt) and play nice with a variety of mem including the eb.
Gigabyte NF3 - Nice board but bloated with waaay too much $hit and is waaaay overpriced. Can hit higher HTT and plays nice with many rams.
Asus A8V rev 2 non wi fi - stay away from early revs with hit n miss locks. VIA chipset doesn't like the locks is the problem. The rev 2 with working locks is a nice mobo.
All the others have more quirks than they are worth. I'd stick with an NF3 mobo if working locks is paramount for higher htt speeds. Since your going to NF4 in the future, the cheaper MSI K8N would be a cheaper way to play with an interim mobo.
This, of course, is all my own personal 2 cents:)
hey, i made this thread as sticky to collect reports about problems and bugs people have with their 939 boards and possible fixes they have found for those bugs :)
i made this list in the first post of this thread. please report bugs and problems you had with your 939 board and i will add it to the list. or let me know if the lastest bios fixed a problem for you, or you found another solution for a problem one of the boards is supposed to have. thx :toast:
MSI Neo2 nforce3
cpu socket position problematic for some small cases
2 of the SATA ports 1 and 2 are not locked
issues with ram slots 3&4 not working very well
lock doesnt work set the agp speed to 67mhz to lock it
stable vcore up to 1.9v
vdimm overvolts to 2.9v on highest setting
has problems with 512mb sticks of bh5 latest bios fixes this problem
has problems with 512mb sticks of ocz eb latest bios fixes this problem
runs great with ballistix
runs great with tccd memory
Gigabyte K8NSXP-939 nforce3
max vdimm is 2.7v
max vcore is 1.7v
max vcore after a mod is 1.95v
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates up to 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT
always detects ide drives at bootup, cant disable this setting
runs great with bh5
runs great with ch5
runs great with samsung tccc
Asus A8V via k8t800pro
needs a vtt mod for high vdimm
OVP on VDimm above 3.15v, needs an extra mod
needs a vtt mod for high vdimm
stable and high vcore up to 1.85v
good pcb layout
runs great with bh5
runs great with ocz eb
Abit AV8 nforce3
Epox S939 nforce3
Well I like the socket orientation on the Neo2. Its perfect for prommy users with vertically mounted motherboards as it allows the evap to completely fill up and operate properly. Normal A64 boards have the prommmy evap mounted sideways which results in the evap only partially filling with refrigerant. This hurts temps as the prom works best with a fully flooded evap.
This pic trys to explain it:
http://home.exetel.com.au/codered/evap_orientation.jpg
Some other bits and pieces I noticed after using both the MSI and giga boards:
Giga board blows up if you use to much Vcore. This seems to be resulting from a cold boot at high Vcore (>1.8V measured at idle). I managed to set mine on fire, thats DPS gold is only good for fanning the flames. Maybe the solution is to never cold boot at high Vcore?
MSI board gets slightly lower mem clocks than the giga. About 6MHz lower from my KHX sticks @ 3.6V. But makes up for this with very strong Vcore regulation ... much higher CPU clocks at high Vcore.
If you cant get the MSI board to start with BH5 on your first boot, then stick in some cheap PC2700 mem (it should boot), set the Vdimm to max, then try again with your BH5. I found that either of my KHX sticks would not run @ 200 Mhz using 2.5V and stock BIOS timings. Raising the Vdimm made it work. Hopefully the newer BIOSes fix this, but this doesnt help on your very first boot vefore you get the chance to flash :)
The caps on the MSI board are easy to bend or break .. be careful.
CPU backplate is hard to get off on the MSI ... just heat it with a hair dryer, it will come off easily then.
for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster). MSI only needs Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster). Yet to try a chipset mod or HTT mod on the MSI ... it may help with LDT 4x @ > 260 HTT bus speeds.
Both boards track Vref to 1/2 x Vdimm.
MSI CPU temp readings are from another planet. Min temp readout seems to be +40 deg C even if you are on phase change ... just ignore it. Giga temp reading is much better.
giga board has a better BIOS IMO ... more options for mem tweaking, but this isnt really necessary as they can be set from windows anyway.
Overall the MSi board worked better for me, but your individual mileage may vary. If you aint using high Vcore (air or water) then the giga would be best, but for phase change users the MSI is better IMO.
FWIW, I'm having a hard time running Mushkin BH-6 at 2-2-2-5 @ 200MHz on A8V Rev2. It just won't be stable with tRCD at 2, forcing me to run at 2-3-2-5. I've tried vdimm upto 2.8V. (no vdimm modification).
some info on the:
Abit AV8
AGP-lock working
stable Vcore up to 1.85v
vdimm overvolts to 2.85v on highest setting, OCZ Booster working
use slot 1&2 for BH-5, 3&4 for TCCD.
BH-5 doesn't work well at all, no matter what voltage
runs great with tccd memory
CPU-temp readings way off
ok, i added a lot to the lists :) thx a lot everybody! :toast:
rauf, charlie had good results with bh5 on his av8, are you sure the latest bios doesnt work with bh5? did you use 512mb bh5 sticks? what revision was your board?
i used 2x256 A-Data BH-5, latest bios (15) have tried many diffenrent, and it's a rev 1.1 board.
Do you have a link to charlies results? I've tried everything there is and it's no good. Have seen many others with problem with BH-5 and this board.
There are still users who complain of weak OCing with EB chips on the MSI Neo2, even while using the DDR booster, so I think it's still a gray area for now..
Hi...
I'm reading the development of this thread very carefully cuzz i'm going to change system next week...my cpu and board (sig) are already sold!
The cpu will be probably a Winchester 3500+ 0,90 ... the mobo i'm still choosing between Giga or Msi Neo2 Platinum...i'm a little bit bit more turned to keep the msi mobo.
The ram will not be the correct for this type of platform (got to buy 1gb of tccd maybe ;) after selling this ocz 4000 kit), but i still own 2x256mb of bh5 from mushkin that with this rig but watercooled maxed out at 262 at 2-2-2-5 with 3,4v...
http://img23.exs.cx/img23/2678/overclock.jpg
Now is there any vmod's for this mobo???Vcore, vdimm??? Guess vdimm mod is something tike the vdimm=vio am i correct???
In my case i have an enermax 465 fully modded (12,5,3,3v rails) guess i will not need the booster!
What really makes me like on this mobo is that for what i've heard here and in msi forums is that the vcore is very stable thing that doesn't happens with the gigabyte!
Bios is another question...seems that the original bios sucks, seems the 1,36 beta bios works very well, any owners of this baby could tell yours opinion of it????Opp,Jason,etc....????
Thks in advance guys!
uhmmm not really, just pm charlie or search for his dry ice thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
he almost made a world record with his fx53 and some bh5. he was running the fsb in 5:4 with the memory at 240 2-2-2. he said the board is hard to master, but its gereat once you figured how to tweak it.
i changed the list and removed the note saying eb works with the latest bios. its now saying that it doesnt like the eb memory :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
VoRtAn_MaDgE, jason is banned on this board ;) and opp seems to like the neo2 iirc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
My v1.1 SUCKS with Gskill memory no matter WHAT slot/What voltage. So take this with a grain of salt.
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
Just wanted to say:
I did all that, didnt work.. I probly got a bad mobo or some,
But I'll be getting the MSI K8N soon ;)
for my FX-55 :)
I think you need to test more. Just remembered: when using slot 3&4 it wouldn't boot at 200MHz 2.5-3-3-7 or 2-2-2-5. But when turning it up to 250MHz or more it works fine with 2.5-3-3-7. Mine got up to ~275MHz, that's the maximum HTT my board can handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrunchTime
saaya: 240MHz 2-2-2-5 with BH-5 is not what I consider good. Nforce 3 can get much higher than that. The Abit also seems picky about what manufacturer of BH-5 also, Kingston seems to work best while A-Data is no good at all. I'm guessing charlie used Kingston
Epox 9NDA3+ nforce3
problems with 512mb bh5 sticks
Is this problem still there ?
Isnt it fixed with the new bios ?
Can someone tell me pls :)
Im really leaning towards the Abit board. Do you like it overall RAuf? I love Abit tweakability and quality. Ill be getting 2x 512 of mushkin Lvl2 v2 pc3200 as well.
Is that a winny CPU? and if so Did you have to flash bios for yours to boot with it? May make a auto flash disk if need be. Not100% sure what cpu to get yet!
It's definately a decent board if you have TCCD-memory but no more. Most can't handle HTT above 275-285. I've actually got a MSI NEO2 on its way, it's a much better choice. The cpu is e Newc. but I also have a 3200+ on its way with the moboQuote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
30k in 2k1 makes it worthwhile going from 20k or so! So far its looking very much worth the money.
I believe the ram i intend on is v2 TCCD thanks to the xtreme guides. Im not looking to make the leaderboard just making sure its worth an upgrade :) It would be cool to just push the ram to a decent high, max out the cpu with me cooling and of course let the GT flex abit. :D
Thanks for the info.
[img]http://orb-z.com/image/3200nAV8.gif[/img]
3200+ 0433SPMW, this is at 1.6v and the chip has more in it.
http://orb-z.com/image/2600.gif
Only bad thing abt the AV8 physically is that I have no idea how the designed OUT the lower right hand screw.
http://orb-z.com/image/Screw.gif
Other than that, vCore is a bit unstable, set at 1.6v in BIOS, drops to 1.53v and climbs to 1.6v, reminds me of ASUS P4P/C800 series. Tweaking within windows due to uGuru, erm..voltages up to 2.8v which is kinda low for vDimm, but there are voltages for NB & SB and even HTT! :shock:
Good board, better than the MSI K8N Neo2 which was just plain quirky I felt, but was very feature rich.
which rams did you üse for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
Good stuff sin22! Did you install the mosfet heatsinks?
Yup did that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
Will clock more tonight once I'm back from work....
what ram are you using dood?
Ok...with the request of several people the following is a list of the MSI K8N Neo2 Plat-Ultra's bugs and their respective fixes:
1. When exceeding 220HTT, SATA connectors 1 and 2 DO NOT BOOT. You need to use 3 and 4 by the CPU.
2. When OCing, Ram slots 3 and 4 are unstable, for best results use 1 and 2.
Thats it! Besides that it's about the best S939 board you can get... ;)
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 nforce3
Max htt seems to be 270 max regardless of multi and divider.
max vdimm is 2.80v
tracks vtt
max vcore is 1.7v
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates up to 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT
crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time
9x multi slightly unstable
8x multi very unstable
runs great with bh5
runs great with ch5
runs great with samsung tccc
NO Memory Interleaving?
runs great with samsung tccd
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: easy vcore mod with pin10 to ground via 50K VR
BUT the max vcore after a mod is 1.95v and coldboot with 1.85v+ vcore might kill the board!
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
TIP: for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster)
This board isn't recommended period.
humm , max htt is about 360 at 3XLDT, 2X seems don't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Vdimm at +0,2 in bios =2,85v
never had problems with 8X or 9x multi :confused:
The only lack with it is the low vcore (for security) for xtremcooling.
Probably the best ram overclocker.
Oh man, I forgot about this thread. I appologize. I had some bad results with this board. maybe it was just defective. It looks like it's a pretty good board. Lithan and misterroadster are doing well with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
MSI Neo2 plat issue...
There is a BIG problem using winchesters and phase change on these boards. Only a few people have got them working, booting, properly and i'm not one of them. It's all over the boards so there's definately and issue there. CMOS reset always provides a boot so there has to be some kind of bios problem there.
You might as well take a hammer to the temp probe on this board it's totally jacked. In bios with prommy it'll only report 40C as the lowest temp then out of nowhere the bios will jump to 156C and the same goes for windows. With MBM i can get either -25, -97 (i wish), 50, 97, 112C, so go figure.
I will be receiving the Neo 2 on Friday. I have the bios file W702SNMS.136. What utility do I use to flash it? Is it included with the mobo?
-=Vran=-
i was able to use winflash. i was worried at first but after not finding anything on the cd that came with the mb and not wanting to use msi's live update i just used winflash and like i said worked perfectly.. good luck man :toast: oh btw whats the key stroke to get into the hidden bios screens? ever since i switched to the 1.37 bios i no longer have firewire and cant even find the option to enable/disable the fire wire in teh bios...
thx perc,
Question: Does the ABIT AV8 need a bios flash to work with .90nm ?
Part of my new system in on the way. Just ordered some Patriot TCCD ram but i have about another week before its time to order mobo and cpu.
AV8 3rd eye mobo for me along with a retail 3200+ win. Be nice if a MAX3 AV8 w/third eye would come out by next week lol.
Seems most forum doods and reviewers are getting the board up to 260 out of the box! Could be a 275FSB board in the right hands :) even 11x260 = 2.86 would be real nice and probably make good use of my cooling setup.!
Just did get a lot of neoprene type pipe insulation /me wonders if a chiller would get the winnie to 11x 270+. :slobber:
:toast:
Well when I got it (here in Singapore) it came preflashed with Bios v14 and that supported my 3200+ Winnie no issues straight up. Supposedly Bios v16 gives better support for 3200+ winnies but what it does I have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
So you ought to be good if you've got a relatively late BIOS version.
cool i appreciate the info! Now ive found out that some 939 boards have problem with Antec PSU's?
Update: Seems the tru power 430 is safe to run with this board. Anand had great clocking success with the combo. Whew! :banana:
AV8 update! It seems many many doods are having probs with this board and .90nm cpu's! The board has to be flashed to bios version 1.5 or newer to work.
Definately worth an inquirery if anyone is looking to buy the combo.
I cant seem to get my memory above 200 mhz
with my old axp i used to be able to 210 easily
i can do my CPU @ 250 HTT if i have 133 for raM... but if i go over 205 mhz with my ram @ 7-3-3-3 with 2.85v.. my pc locks up :x
updated the list :)
heres the latest info, please read it and let me know if you want me to add or change something, thx a lot for all your help! :toast:
MSI Neo2 nforce3
cpu socket position problematic for some small cases
SATA ports 1 and 2 are not locked
issues with ram slots 3&4 not working very well
lock doesnt work set the agp speed to 67mhz to lock it
cpu temperature reading not working correctly
vcore up to 1.9v
very stable vcore
vdimm overvolts to 2.9v on highest setting
tracks vtt
has problems with 512mb sticks of bh5 latest bios fixes this problem
doesnt like ocz eb
runs great with ballistix
runs great with tccd memory
2x Memory Interleaving?
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: if you have problems booting with BH5 try another stick of memory and set vdimm to the max, then swap in the BH5
TIP: the CPU backplate is hard to get off on the MSI ... just heat it with a hair dryer, it will come off easily then
TIP: for best performance the MSI only needs Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster).
Yet to try a chipset mod or HTT mod on the MSI ... it may help with LDT 4x @ > 260 HTT bus speeds
TIP: core center can make the system unstable if left running
TIP: if you have problems booting at low temps with a winchester try the latest beta bios
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: disable performance mode?
TIP: only bios 1.36beta or later allows for up to 1.9v vcore
TIP: color coded ram slots are different than other 939 boards. (uses opposite colors for dual)
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
Gigabyte K8NSXP-939 nforce3
max vdimm is 2.85v
tracks vtt
max vcore is 1.7v
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates up to 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT
crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time
always detects ide drives at bootup, cant disable this setting latest bios fixes this problem
9x multi slitghly unstable
8x multi very unstable
runs great with bh5
runs great with ch5
runs great with samsung tccc
NO Memory Interleaving?
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: easy vcore mod with pin10 to ground via 50K VR
BUT the max vcore after a mod is 1.95v and coldboot with 1.85v+ vcore might kill the board!
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
TIP: for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster)
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
Asus A8V via k8t800pro rev2.xx
needs a vtt mod for high vdimm
OVP on VDimm above 3.15v, needs an extra mod
problem running trcd at 2 at high speeds, cant run 2-2-2 at high speeds
cpu temperature reading not working correctly
locks are working
stable and high vcore up to 1.85v
good pcb layout
runs great with bh5?
runs great with ocz eb
2x Memory Interleaving?
tracks vtt
TIP: use slot 1&2 for BH-5, 3&4 for TCCD
TIP: disable fast writes
Asus A8V via k8t800pro rev1.xx
locks not working on most boards!
generally starts topping out in the 250's htt (bios 1005.021 beta for rev 1.02)
doesnt seem to like bh5 very well
Abit AV8 nforce3
AGP-lock working
Vcore up to 1.85v
mixed results with vcore stability
vdimm up to 2.8v
vdimm overvolts to 2.85v on highest setting
tracks vtt, booster works
CPU-temp readings way off
mixed results with bh-5 and tccd
TIP:use slot 1&2 for BH-5, 3&4 for TCCD
TIP:if you have problems with winchester cores on this board flash to bios 1.5 or newer, 1.6 is recommended by abit
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
Epox 9NDA3+ nforce3
problems with 512mb bh5 sticks
runs great with ocz eb
runs great with 256mb bh5 sticks
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
Is the Gigabyte K8NSUltra 939 same as the K8NSNXP 939 and does it suffer from same vcore fluctuation? And does it have same coold boot problems with high HTT
and is it Booster compatible
thanks
Hey saaya, please can you add use the + and - keys to change the HTT with the later BIOS with the Neo 2.
I also found PgUP and PgDn works.
Now I know a lot on here know this already, but I (like a fool) forgot the other day and hit the enter key.
Just a habit to hit enter I suppose.
It hung etc etc.
I managed to get it to boot again, but found I had lost me Nvidia LAN :(
I managed to get it all back after a bit of hassle, but boy was it a pain :(
I need a sticky "DO NOT HIT ENTER" on my keyboard :D
Thinking..the ABIT AV8 is not Nforce3. (look in your list)
Tis a VIA board.
weird ...must have been a typo :D
millyons, i guess both are the same boards, the only difference might be in what features they have, but i think they are identical.
The antec PSU's really do give some people issues with sckt 939 boards.
Ive read the latest bios fixes the temp issues on ABit AV8 as well.
BTW Heres a good review of Abit AV8 vs MSI Neo2 Plat:
http://www.tweaktown.com/document.ph...rticle&dId=711
not sure what was going on but I was having video freeze up when trying to run 3dmark (just froze for a few secs everytime it would start a test)
heres what I did to fix it: turned off fast writes and performance mode and also turn off NV/ATI Speed Up in the hidden bios settings
I'm running an FX53 (stock spd)/ MSI K8N Neo2 Plat/ OCZ PC4400 EL Gold 2x512/ PNY 6800 Ultra (stock spd)
cool, added to the list in the first post of this thread :toast:
Have two little things to add to the list:
For the Asus A8V
the latest bios seems to fix the subzero problems. Beta bios 1009.002 that is...
For the MSI
Had some problems with BH5 and the default bios. Got a lot of random BSOD's with my BH5, mostly during heavy disk usage. When I swapped to GSkill the random bsod's were gone.
In the list only problems with 512 mb sticks were noted, but I used 2 x 256. I presume an updated bios will fix this as it with the 512Mb sticks does.
doesn´t the AV8 like adata ram? is it going better with gskill? or corsair BH5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
Which board´s better with a-data ddr 500 or gskill4400? ABIT AV8 or ASUS A8V?????? PLZ HELP ME!!!!!!
it doesn't like Adata BH-5, TCCD should work fine no matter what manufacturerQuote:
Originally Posted by burnhead
gskill pc4400 :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
thanks, i guess im waiting for a Neo2 also then
can any1 tell me which board to get with CH-5 Chips (ocz pc3200 el platinum dual-channel kit) i think i'll taKE THE k8n neo ² platinum cause the bosster is compatible!
@rauf: why?!?!
thx youpy! :toast:
why what?Quote:
Originally Posted by burnhead
i was advice to buy MDT PC3200 memory double sided (512Mo) to use with the gigabyte K8NSNXP-939.
It works very good with a low price. (70 euros in france)
2.5-3-2-2- between 230/250 Mhz (it depends of chance) 1T only with 2.75v (optimal). high voltage does not increase potential :)
they work in dual 2*512 without problem !
:)
why THAT: it doesn't like Adata BH-5, TCCD should work fine no matter what manufacturerQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
HERE is my "work-log" with the AV8...
to sum-it-up:
1) OCZ DDR Booster DOES work with my board...VTT DOES track (mine "seems" to need a reboot to "re-track" after a change)
ive gone as high as 3.4V stable (@ 3.6v things went wrong...mobo/mem, dont know which didnt like it... G-Skill "new TCCD")
2) with the XP-120 you will NOT be able to put anything in DIMM slot #1
3) booster works in #2... :rolleyes:
there are more but...:)
thx joe :toast:
subzero temp bug.... plz some1 fix that :slap:
on the MSI bios 1.41 seems to fix that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
also newer MSI boards, (from october and november) dont appear to have that bug anymore (take a look at Onepagebook's thread)
Offtopic:
you should change your sig and put your bank account number there ;)
updated the list on the first page... daym... look at all those tips! :eek:
good work saaya ;) :D
With bh-5 1.36 till now seems to be the nicest bios??? Anyone with the board and bh-5 mem's can confirm that?
Just bought asus a8v rev 2. How and what driver do i need to install for win xp to see my sata drives? no raid just 2 sata western digital drives.
none...just format your S-ata drives over the peripherial manager.... :banana::banana::banana::banana:, i don´t know the right word in english.... you know, the place where you can find detailled infos about every hardware component in your pc...
do not know what that is, burnhead. Is this in the BIOS? Remember that there is no windows installed in the system. This is a new system.
ah... but you said: How and what driver do i need to install for win xp to see my sata drives? no raid just 2 sata western digital drives.
ok...so then get into the bios and set the sata plate you want to boot from as secondary boot device, first is your DVD or CD - Drive... then install windows and all the drivers that have been delivered with your hardware (graphx card, mainboard, HDD drivers and all other stuff you need) then klick "start" and there is a entry with a little notice book and a pencil... i am from austria so i dont know the word for it.... in german it is "systemsteuerung"... there is an entry with a circle diagramme, click it, then there is an entry with a personalcomputer and a monitor, in which is displayed a big hook, click it...a window opens, there is a button on top, which says "hardware" click it....and in the second row there are 2 buttons, click the right... in the following window, there are all hardware components listed, which your PC includes... also your HDDs... now it´s easy to format them...
don´t know if it´s the right way, maybe you can also format them in your bios...
i´ve taken the 1st way, because i installed windows on a IDE drive...
btw. what country are you from?
Québec, Canada
Already tried to install win xp, but it stops and tell me that it does not see any hard disk, but in the bios, it does. I figured that may be i need to format my drives before truing to install win xp.
Just spoke with my supplier, he tells me i absolutely need to install a driver with F6 during the installation of win xp because it is a sata drive that win xp does not recognize yet.
In the asus a8v supplied cd, there are drivers for raid. Probably i need to install the VIA raid driver even though i will not install raid. I will try that tonight.
btw. what country are you from?[/QUOTE]
LOLA Sound familiar far away from Canada! Sounds like a familiar name in my country.
Lola,
Your last description will do the trick, just make sure that you are using a generic keyboard so that your sytem can recognize the F6 command. Usually a floppy comes with a motherboard that contains the SATA drive that you must install for your Hard drives to be visible to XP. Afterward you may disregard the raid installation and move on. Good luck
The trouble is there was no floppy with the asus a8v just a cd. In the cd there are three floppy generation places.
1st: Promise 378ata
2nd: Promise 378RAID
3rd: VIA RAID 6420
Since i do not want to install a raid system, the first one PROMISE 378ATA is probably the correct one. (I hope)
Please, on the MSI Neo2 Plat, add something like this:
"Tip: If you are having trouble getting windows to boot from SATA ("Error Loading Operating System"), be sure to set SATA1/2/3/4 RAID to "ENABLED", even if you are not running RAID."
I have seen a lot of people having trouble with this, especially if they are trying to use a SATA drive for their Primary boot drive (like WD Raptor)
Thanks for the post. :p: Very helpfull to see it all in one place.
:YIPPIE:
CanisLupis
I recommended this guide as a sticky and submitted to eocf. I hope you are cool with it. It's been helping a lot of their members.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=141010
In the 1.3b6 bios i got an option called Adjust CPU FID voltage, and one step lower you can adjust de voltage of the cpu bij max 18%
What does the adjust cpu fid do? I noticed that it goes way down 1.0 volt?
can you guide me on the best grease for pins /socket/m1 ystemQuote:
Originally Posted by cowpuppy
thanks
:D
awesome info :toast:
Ok I was asking for some help on building my own PC. I just read like the 1st few posts from this thread and it totally kills what I was going to buy. Everyone kept telling me to get the MSI K8Neo Plat. But It seems like there are a lot of things wrong with it for just everyday usage.
thx a lot CanisLupis, added it :)
welcome to XtremeSystems! :toast:
same to you aCidbAbY, welcome :toast:
about grease for the socket i would just use any dielectric grease you can find in a car or electronics shop :)
root, i think the msi is amongst the most stable 939 boards for everyday usage. the problem with this guide is that there is a huge amount of people who have an msi neo2 board wich means we have more infos about the good things, but mostly about the small bugs of that board...
the only real problem with the neo2 is the cpu socket orientation, and that only 2 sata slots can be used for ocing and that it doesnt like ocz eb memory. most other issues seem to be resolved with the latest bios.
updating and improving the guide :)
and more...
Ok well then what would be the best ram I could get for that board. And if I were to purchase let's say a another prebuilt with that Mobo in it would it be stable. I am thinking about this Compaq gaming PC. The GX5000Z. I know, I know it's a Compaq OR SO THEY seem to have a bad reputation. Oh well, Im not all computer literate. Sometimes I even wonder how I found my way into this forum. At any rate I would probably want to change a few things about this computer once I bought it. Or maybe I should buy the parts myself and build it.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ing&catLevel=2
OT.
saaya you´ve received a PM :)
always buy a pc yourself... 90% of prebuilt pcs have at least one weak point, most have several...Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Root://
if your not sure what parts to get just look at other peoples rigs and send them a pm if they would recommend you a certain board or card they have.
Just wanna add something.. I was playing around with my ram trying to find its max FSB and timings.
From what I gather, its best you keep your CPU cool due to the fact that the mem controller is on die. More so for the 3000+ who tend to require a little more voltage to reach higher clock speeds. More voltage = More heat
Max FSB for ram 269 at 3/4/4/8
Max Clock for CPU is 2575 at 1.55v Stock HSF
Ram is unable to go above 255 fsb at 2575MHz no matter the timing or voltage. It seems as if when the CPU maxed out ... so does the Ram controller
Just my 2c worth