it's something like:Quote:
Originally Posted by FX Freak
i would also (like to get-buy) this ram......
eh austrians :stick: ;)
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it's something like:Quote:
Originally Posted by FX Freak
i would also (like to get-buy) this ram......
eh austrians :stick: ;)
so, what kind of timmings will these buggers get at 280fsb and 290fsb?
nvmnd
yep :)
i never thought i would see the day of a default 3.2v
EDIT: any idea of when it hits places like newegg?
Im sorry to get anoyed here but WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL with what IC's we use...They will be cheaper than TCCD and they clock higher than TCCD at 2-2-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
All your fueling here is our competition getting the same IC's and releasing a similar product...we ain't tellin and thats final...so please stop asking...ok?
We spend a huge amount of time and money finding IC's etc so you guys have what you need to have fun benching...cut us some slack here m8 and leave it alone a while.......please.
I don't think you will see that high :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
I can run 250 on this 875 2-2-2 and 253 2-3-2, going to 3-4-4 didn't gain me 1 fsb higher.
A64 may respond a little better but i don't think by much.
I agree, it's really annoying. Who cares what ic's they use? We have some great ram on our hands. Just support ocz. They deserve some privacy since it's their discovery in the first place. Let them enjoy it while it's still fresh. If you owned a business and had a great idea, would you want all your competitors to know about it?
Thanks for the info big toe. Can you let me know how they do in the a64 when you guys get a chance to test in a 939 system. It would be GREATLY appreciated. I will be spending upwards of 250 on ocz memory soon, just dont know which ones, so be assured u have a customer.
Big toe, that is rather odd.. insnaely tight timmings to a max mhz.. and then notta. not one mhz higher no matter what u do. that is some seriously odd behavior. I dont think ive ever seen memory like that.
I have to agree with big toe on this one. Atleast let ocz have a couple of months to sell these things and make some money to help cover research costs before the whores go and start using this stuff. OCZ making more money is ironicly good for us. The more money they make, the better product they can deliver to us. That is assuming that they put the money into R&D, which it seems they do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I agree,we are all getting sick and tired of peeps constantly asking OCZ for the IC's origin.
If a mod comes across this thread*or report the user/thread to them*,I highly suggest to ban(for a week or two) who ever ask's AGAIN about the IC manufacturer OCZ uses for these. :mad:
Thanks for the support here guys :)
We are constantly looking for new IC's even if they may be limited edition as we know the enthusiast is a small part of the big picture but they deserve a huge amount of attention. Im an enthusiast as is Ryan, Steve and Andy...we all love overclocking and getting the best performance we can.
The VM dimms are NOT Ltd Ed as far as i know, things can and do change though just like EB but we all have out fingers crossed.
Just to give you all some background on EB before we released it, Ryan and i had quite a few debates about whether the community could live with a module that clocked well with TRP2 and TRCD at 3 but at high clocks needed cas3, we were worried that you all would be fixated with cas2 and wouldn't see that with a few programming tweaks we could get some incredible speed even with a slower cas lateny, well I advised Ryan you would all see thru the cas2 myth and you all did. Unlucky for us Micron changed the die...we all then lost.
Moving to the VM modules we had similar debates again as it needs juice just to get going, at stock voltage as i quoted before you will be lucky to see 2-3-3 at 200fsb. Now i know many boards do have 3V+ vdimm so many should see some good results from these dimms even without vdimm mods or the booster but you guys ain't afraid of using either to get where you need to be so we decided to release.
I have a feeling most will see ddr500 at 2-2-2 on 939 with enough juice, some will see 260 and a few may see a little higher...after that single channel will be king then a LOT of luck!! even with relaxed timings.
So..I do hope you have a realistic idea from us as to what these modules will do for you...i can't see PC4200 speed from them dual channel but I do see PC4000 and a little higher. If yield improves we may see 4200 speed dual channel but not just yet, not unless your real lucky :)
Well then it seems that I will go the way of the 3200 Rev2.
I read all of this and my take is that we finally see an alternative to bh5 and ram that behaives just like bh5 too and is just as good for cheaper. bh5 wont be worth $300+ anymore either. I may still go tccd since the higher fsb makes up for the ras-cas3 timings but it does 280 or so at 2.7 volts which is great for 1:1 action for me. what needs to be done is amd improve their ondie controller so I can use tccd to the max, where it stands, ill probably get about 250fsb with tccd not cause of the rams limit but of the ondie cont. limiting me first :mad:
"but of the ondie cont. limiting me first"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
did you test your cpu properly? did you borrow some ram to test the limit of the ondie controller, or are you guessing?
baldy :D
LOL baldy, not trusting of ti4200 i see. No one gives 2 cents to what he says... sigh..
On die controllers havn't limited people seince the C0 days.
Give the guy a break manQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
Not jus directing this at you MaxxxRacer... I've been a member here for a little while now and one constant throughout the time I've spent here is that Geforce4ti4200 always get the sheet taken out of him... seriously guys, cut him some slack...
If someone, not jus Geforce4ti4200 for that matter, says something you dont agree with at least try to correct them in a civil way... i have NEVER seen him get hostile at anyone... maybe a few of you could learn something from him...
That's my 2c worth... sorry to all the OCZ reps for the thread hijack
Damn Straight! It takes a boy form down under (albeit NZ :p: ) to say it as it is :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbi_NZ
Oh yeah, back on topic; all I can say is that, the Voltage Extreme will be my next set of memory!
I beg to differ. I've got a Winchester that clocks pretty well, but has a crap memory controller that limits what I can do with my RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by craig588
Ok, fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Let´s just hope that there will be enough sticks, to extinguish the demand in europe too ;)
that's rediculous. it's ok to ask when the part #;s are clearly marked on the ic under a spreader, but I can understand with something like this that is ocz branded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
Sorry xgman I dont quite understand you point.
Are you saying it's ok to ask a company to give out insider information on it's own intelectual property for the sake of some user's own satisfaction ?
Or are you agreeing with the fact the people who keep asking about the origin of the product are getting to be a P.I.T.A for the rest of us ? :confused:
*Sorry if I seem a little clued out today I'm functioning on 3 hour of sleep*
ok guys , I just saw the PR and got the official release dates , shipments should arrive in stores by monday
Here it is: !
OCZ PC-3200 Voltage eXtreme Gold Edition
Awesome.. so when will it appear in Excaliber? Did you mean today (Monday) or the Monday after Thanksgiving?
And the product page:
OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Gold VX
Rated for 3.5v max, woot!
Cool, I wonder how much the 2x512mb set will cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
I'm guessing around 260... if it's cheaper than the Rev. 2's. Awesome price if you ask me.
MSRP is 249.99 I think
Sold! As soon as i can get it that is...
just called excaliber. Monday next week (after thanksgiving) they will probably have them Wednesday. BAM!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
Looks like I'll be placing my order on that Monday morning. **Kneels and prays to the OC Gods for a lucky set**
LMAO! Yes the overclock Gods will be waiting for us all.Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad.maranan
....grats to OCZ.... lately they've pulled off PC3200Plat Rev2 TCCD, incredible DDR2 PC4200EB and now this!!!!!
GREAT JOB, GUYS
trans_am you gonna get this ram ?
ryan/tony/steve/sean/eric/ocz employees, anyway you can make them cheaper here in Asia? ;)...i've been selling this stuff, ordering them from UK or AU or US. it's been pretty expensive for my clients lately, charging them International shipping, then tax, then customs duties and all ;)....i do hope you can identify a reseller already =)...
Yeah OCZ needs to get an Asian distributor it's the only world region they dont have an office or distributor yet.
It's a huge market thier missing out on.
Congrats OCZ guys0!whatever ICs you are using its a remarkable effort!:toast:
They will be loved like Winbond ICs did.
Oh by the way im seeing too many similarities in your ICs with winbonds (IC layout similarities)
Just an observation ... i don't ask what chips they are :D
From what I've heard we have a distro comming in Asian in the next month or so. Things may change but we ARE working on it so hang tight guys. :)
SE Asia
http://www.ocz-asia.com/distributors/index.php
Korea
http://www.highnd.com/
Japan
http://www.ocworks.com/
We are still working on mainland china
Unbelievable :slobber: I mean, you hardly see any memory chips whose max voltage rating is over 3.5 volts, but this memory has OCZ warranty even if 3.5Vdimm is flowing through them continuously! :worship:
@SteveOCZ
you got a new pm:) plz answer:)
If you can simply remove the spreaders and see the ic manufacturer, then I said I think it is perfectly ok to ask. In the case of OCZ branded ic, it is their business if they want to tell or not and I wouldn't ask more than once and I don''t blame them for wanting to keep a marketing edge. More power to them! What I was saying is rediculous, is your suggestion for banning people who ask at all. Anyway, no problem, I am a big fan of OCZ but lets face it this thread albeit very interesting, does border on advertising. that said, I have no problem with it and may sample some of this memory myself although I am a bit leary of 24/7 3.3-3.5v using a A64 mem controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Yes my suggestion seems extreme but i dont think this thread would be readable if it was filled with members asking*thread crapping* to know the ic's origin .Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Agreed insider info will sometimes look like advertising but that the mods job to decide...Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Well the alternative is them sitting in their office and not giving a s**t about the OC comunity like some of the rest of the industry :rolleyes: .
They are making a *possible* BH-5 replament after all, I dont see any other manufacturer with the knowledge who are willing to make the effort.
Keep in mind , we try to be very carefull about going to far ( on the advertising issue )
we step carefully. Keep it to interesting benches ect , if people like I can avoid mentioning what products I am using and just post my cool benches
I have noticed another company posting things that seem much more like ads. ( for example product comparisons posted by one of the companyes reps ).
So all in all we seem pretty mild
Plus we have the awesome mod aquad here at Xtreme watching our every move...if we go to far they let us know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy
There is a pre-order here in spain:
http://tig-spain.com/modules.php?nam...roducts_id=105
Available in 4 desember. 294'12€, so 367$ (of course in usa it will be cheaper...)
tnx for the info ryan...=)..it's still gonna cost me an arm and a leg though as getting them anywhere outside of my country will still incur int'l s&h, tax, customs, etc. ;) hehehehe...but hey, i understand there's no market here in PH except for a select few people like me and my friends =)...but Corsair, Kingston, Geil are all selling top-end ram here ;)...for other brands, we have TwinMos hehe...I wish OCZ will be here in PH as well soon...my credit card is always hitting the limit getting OCZ rams abroad :banana: :D :banana: :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpgroovy
ROFL...Thats the first time I've heard Platinum Heat Spreaders being referred to as Bling Bling LOL :p: :p: :p:Quote:
I want to know why G unit didnt couldn't get G skill to use platinum heatspreaders in this ad. I mean where's the Bling bling?
Perkam
Oh, man. That image made me crack up. I just had to show my co-workers. Of course, they don't get it. :lol:
I said dont flame me ppl and it WAS an honest question, I was asking for a show of hands, not a show of fists....Sheesh :mad:
Sorry to derail the thread :(
This is not a very intelligent question. It's bad enough this thread is going down in smoke. You might as well make the most of it and delete your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
OK, guys, I'm removing all my posts, it's bad enough that I'm crapping the ocz thread(with my humor) but I never intended this to turn into a racial issue. sorry Ryan.
Could anyone at OCZ show us the VX's max frequency at say... 2.5-3-3-7 or something similar with a bandwith screenie(everest,memtest ...) .
The reason I'm asking is that I'm having second thought about the VX now that I know a new CPU past week 33 with a better mem controller will unleash my 3200 rev2 plat.
EDIT:Like Trans am I deleted my pervious post not relevant to this thread,I encourage other members to do the same;let's keep this thread on topic!
don't know if these user experience posts have been posted here yet, but worth a look:
http://www.truextreme.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35033
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...ode=flat?r=329
Holy crap, 2x512MB DC @ 270Mhz 2-2-2-7. I wonder if it's 1T....
Dude if that's 1t that will kill tccd at 300mhz 2.5-3-3. Superpis score will be lower with 2-2-2@270 1T I'm almost certain.
It's 1T.....you wouldn't get numbers like that at 2T :)
I can't wait to see some benches with the 2-2-2 at 270 vs. 2.5-3-3-7 @ 300mhz. Any idea how much difference in something like super pi or 2001se? I can't wait to test it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
So OCZ PC3200 Gold VX is the official name for this product? Now I know what to look out for.
Well, this is certainly new territory for DDR. Even BH-5 couldn't get near 270MHz with 2 512MB sticks in DC @ 1T, even using 3.9V.
Too bad it's not good for intel system.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Impressive A64 results :D
very nice results:) the new better bh5:D
My post is removed because of the maturity shown by others and the respect I have for OCZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Not quite what your looking for but you can get a good idea anyways........Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Corsair XMS3500 rev1.1 bh-5 10x260 2-2-8-2-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/corsair.jpg
OCZ PC3200EL Plat. rev2 TCCD 10x260 2-3-8-3-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/OCZ.jpg
Sorry can't go any higher than 2.65 with my 3400dtr and has a crappy memory controller to boot. When I had my 3200+NC CG I tested my bh-5 at 10x270 2-2-8-2-1t against TCCD at 9x300 2.5-3-8-3-1t and the TCCD came out on top.
Here's OCZ PC3200EL Plat rev2 TCCD 9x288 2.5-3-8-3-1t
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/OCZ2.jpg
That was one small difference.
Is it really that small ??
Intressting.
I'll be honest my DFI board is really weird. I mean when I bench between 260-275htt I basically get the same performance, its not until I go over 280htt where the board really begins to shine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I think the 939 chipset will benefit running 2-2-?-2 1t compared to 754. Then again with all the testing I've done it really seems the NF3 chipset doesn't really take advantage of ultra tight timings.
I easily prefer 9x300 relax over 10x270 tight on my DFI.
Thanks, very interesting indeed.
i'm following the thread since the first day, but today i've been accepted as a forum user and this is my first post :D
I'm looking forward to have them in Spain as soon as possible :P Any date or something like that of distribution in Europe?
thank you
PS: I will perform my english writing here, so please, forgive my writing errors :P
The shipments are already on the way to europe , best thing is to check with your local retailer for the arrival date
:( :( :(
¡Disponible el 4 de Diciembre! (on sale on december 4th)
PC-3200 Dual Gold Voltage eXtreme 2x512MB
[OCZ4001024EL] 348.00EUR (348.00 Euro = 458.860 USD)
A bit (a huge bit :P) over my possibilites... I almost buy 4x512 at the USA for the same price...
Thank you.
little bit OT here, but wanted to point out that 170 3dmarks difference is quite significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
to give you an idea... on my AXP-M with BH-5 difference between 251x10 (2515Mhz) and 251x11 (2765) is 300 3dmarks. memory bandwidth difference between x10 and x11 is only ~1%.
in other words for every 100Mhz increase on CPU i get 120 3dmarks...
i would say that IT IS A LOT!
I have no clue why the heck there charging that much
Thats 200 dollars over MSRP,
Can you direct me to the retailer so we can tell them to get the price in line with reality
EDIT - BENCHMARKS!!
Just got back from the "post office"
Quick results (less than an hour of playing)
9x250.82mhz / 3.30v / 1:1 / 1T / 2800+ Clawhammer / DFI Lanparty-UT 10/15 4.0vdimm with OCZ Memtest 1.00 / 2x512 OCZ Voltage Extreme
Everest Read / write / latency
1.5-2-2-0 --- 3816 / 1432 / 41.4
1.5-2-2-5 --- 3824 / 1436 / 42.3
1.5-2-2-10 -- 3818 / 1437 / 42.3
2-2-2-0 ----- 3847 / 1575 / 41.5
2-2-2-5 ----- 3848 / 1579 / 41.6
2-2-2-10 ---- 3846 / 1576 / 41.5
2.5-2-2-0 --- 3824 / 1454 / 42.8
2.5-2-2-5 --- 3821 / 1442 / 42.8
2.5-2-2-10 -- 3815 / 1442 / 42.8
3-2-2-0 ----- 3797 / 1424 / 46.3
3-2-2-5 ----- 3804 / 1408 / 46.4
3-2-2-10 ---- 3809 / 1400 / 46.3
Sisoft Buffered
1.5-2-2-0 --- 3834/3834
1.5-2-2-5 --- 3835/3834
1.5-2-2-10 -- 3834/3834
2-2-2-0 ----- 3830/3830
2-2-2-5 ----- 3831/3830
2-2-2-10 ---- 3831/3831
2.5-2-2-0 --- 3828/3828
2.5-2-2-5 --- 3827/3827
2.5-2-2-10 -- 3827/3826
3-2-2-0 ----- 3835/3830
3-2-2-5 ----- 3832/3833
3-2-2-10 ---- 3833/3833
Sisoft Unbuffered
1.5-2-2-0 --- 2257/2299
1.5-2-2-5 --- 2249/2293
1.5-2-2-10 -- 2237/2278
2-2-2-0 ----- 2165/2225
2-2-2-5 ----- 2180/2227
2-2-2-10 ---- 2191/2242
2.5-2-2-0 --- 2191/2246
2.5-2-2-5 --- 2191/2244
2.5-2-2-10 -- 2185/2244
3-2-2-0 ----- 2143/2208
3-2-2-5 ----- 2154/2208
3-2-2-10 ---- 2138/2208
EDIT
Think I just killed the OS.. goes to load windows and then BSOD comes up with unmountable drive or something.. if you know a quick fix post it here or pm me, i'm gonna go eat ;)
EDIT
Benchmarks updated!!!! Thats a lot of benches to pull off.. i'm all benched out for the night I think :slobber: Nearly pulled a 38s super_pi 1M @ 1.5-2-2-0 with 9x250.82.. not bad for under 2300mhz and no tweaking beyond cas/trcd/trp/tras hm?
Awesome idea STEvil, once you get through with prelim testing of the VX could you compare to your BH6 & CH5 in the same post?
ch-5 (2x512) tops at 245 1.5-2-2-0 3.3v, bh-6 (2x256) tops at 250 1.5-2-2-0 3.3v
Looks like i'll have to reinstall windows I guess. :D
Should learn to use ghost or whatever it is..
Good work ocz. Nice to see your giving something back to the enthusiast overclocking/gamers which is priced well and is ment to have it balls clocked off. Hopefully products like this will show more of the online community that overclocking is safe and can give great results which many of the people who I play with wont think about overclocking and think of it as stupid :S
Also there was alot of talk about the mem controller of the a64s and that giving the mem to much voltage would kill the cpu. I never saw a post that answers the question. Do any of the ocz guys know if putting 3.5 volts into the mem will damage the a64 or is this a whole lot of bs.
We do it here with no bad results yet , but we seldom run more that 3.3 for days on end
yes it was at 1T..(that was me that ran that benchmark).. Still trying to get the cpu stable at 2700 Mhz though.. :cool: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Torin
Seems my bench drive is cooked.. gonna miss that little 4gb 10k scsi. I'll have to pick up a hdd in town tomarrow.
Will play with memtest and keep you guys updated with what they can do there I guess ;)
well, Took mine to 285 FSB...
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Winchester 3500+
2x512Mb OCZ PC3200 Gold edition VX @ 2-2-2-7 1T and 3.5V
OCZ DDR booster
OCZ Powerstream 520W Psu
Air cooled with XP90 and panaflo 92mm..
And if you are wondering why I am using 9.5X Multi... Blasted system will not run at 9X with this ram for some reason..
Thats some great info and looks like I will be keeping my 3700EB since my ASUS
won't go over the magical 3.0v needed.
but its nice to know this will be avil when I get a better OCers mobo if and when a
decent s939 mobo comes to the market.
while I was typing this the above post appeared.
Has the bugs been worked out of the MSI mobos??
and would I see a big gain over my OCZ 3700eb when its at 3.3v+ vs the VX
I have both the MSI and the A8V...Quote:
Originally Posted by iboomalot
The MSI overclocks much better But the A8V is a much more stable motherboard..
memtest is clean so far at 1.5-2-2-0 250mhz 3.3v
Have tried 3 bios reflashes, still cant get past 3.3v to mem.
:eek:
better than expected by 1.5 do you mean CAS 1.5?
yes, CAS 1.5.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hag6br
Dude I must have had too many beers! Somebody pinch me! Did I just see 2x512 do 2-2-2 @285mhz? this is getting out of control! Never have I seen a screen of 2x512 at this speed at 2-2-2 timings. OCZ IS FVCKING AMAZING!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=19854
With an Allied 500W PSU, will I be able to do 3.5v with a Neo2 out of the box with a OCZ DDR Booster?
how are your rails holding up now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jagare
Man I still can't get over that 285 2-2-2 screen. What were you saying?
you should be able to.. The DDR booster does not use 3.3V for the Vdimm but uses 5V... Don't know how well the PSU will handle the load though as I have never used an Allied PSU..Quote:
Originally Posted by jagare
Trans Am... you're running the half-multi.. so it's actually less than 285... still awesome though..
You're right... I missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
ok so 270.75mhz at 2-2-2!!!!!!!! that's still sick for 2x512!
Yep.. The .5 Multi's are funny.. But able to run at 273 FSB at 9X Multi...Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Time to run some Memtest runs and burn the Ram in
:toast:
how'd you guys get the sticks so early?
i think i pissed my pants seing 2*512 270!!! :D
They are our beta testing team. No better way to test out ram than sending to to some crazy overclockers like these guys :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
How do you get on that team :hehe:
Very good numbers for 2 x 512mb :toast:
no wonder eva2000's got someQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
:p: