New Mounting, insulation, head redesign, and later this week final tuning of the cascade!Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
This is a three stage cascade not too many of these out there. "YET!"
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New Mounting, insulation, head redesign, and later this week final tuning of the cascade!Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
This is a three stage cascade not too many of these out there. "YET!"
I think he said it didn't have any mods done til the board yet. I could be wrong though. Definitly an awesome overclock. Chilly really knows how to make those cascades.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilneel12
Chilly1 what is your real job? I see it says HVAC/R engineer or something.
Congratulations Fugger and chilly1, brutal clocks on phase-change, and the triple-cascade really looks great and with a very good performace :owned:
Now it is even more dificult to me to control mylself to not to buy immediately of these toys ..better ask wife to hide my visa for a few days :D
You can give me the visa card and I swear I won't use itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
:rolleyes:.
Haha, and the "truth" comes out. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeGe0
That is one sick overclock considering it's also on a stock mobo.....go DFI!!! Now I just gotta find some clear pics of the OVP mod/cut for my board so I can start "playing" a bit more. ;)
It seems that DFI motherboards start taking over all o/c records slowly :slobber: Of course, 3stage cascades help here, as well as the incredible skill of the elite overclockers :D
Still, I wonder what for a monster the DFI Socket939 is going to be. But that's a little offtopic in this thread, I think ;)
I gotta get me one of those 3 stage cascade thingys...
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
Congrats Fugger :) Some insane clocks there.
excellent!! keep going!
Amazing clocks. :toast:
Wonder if that cascade will ever see a FX55 under it's evap. :cool:
Chilly1 realy knows what's he's doing. Great work. :)
:toast:
Excellent work, looking forward to Superpi and final tuning of the cascade , mayeb 6.5 ??? Can you do pifast as well so can see how prescott does against the hoardes of AMD in that. Are you going to be doing any 3dmark also ? Should be very nice on 3dmark05.
Regards
Andy
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
hmm :confused: 339 x 14 is 4746mhz dude :) :slobber: :eek: :toast: :YIPPIE: Congratz m8 ;) you are my hero
multi is wrong in cpu-z, multi is 18x339
very nice fugger :slobber:
congrats Fugger, 10ghz not far away. lol, theoretically.
i only saw this thred now and i'm like :0 amazing man,
and amazing cascade, congrats!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing amazing clocks out there!!!
:toast:
Sick clocks FUGGER. :)
Congrats to the great OC!!!!
:toast:
Aren't you shooting for som more world records!? I think everybody here know what I'm talking about... right? :banana: :banana:
yup, star****** @ oc.atQuote:
Originally Posted by Noktar
damn. that is truly outragous. way to go. you make this place xtreme. and the world is watching. keep it up.....
ImpressiveImpressiveImpressive ! :banana4: :banana4: :toast:
´Quote:
Originally Posted by P4rthen0n
Hardly. I think i read somewhere that FUGGER is an Intel Developer.. If so, he's doing a damn good job promoting these little E0-toasters! :D
Damn...
Did you get it 6.0Ghz stable? 3dmark stable or superpi stable? Since you can do 6.3Ghz :D
Ffs fugger.. You are freakin Xtreme!
Are we gonna see some WR soon then? Or what? :D
Superpi/pifast? And what about 3d benches?
That's exactly why i said that :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias-K
This thread makes my pants feel funny...
and here I thought I was the only one..... :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArkhAngelos
this is what's it's all about! 2ghz FSB...do it!
WOW :slobber: :slobber: :banana4: :banana4: :banana4:
Can't wait till you get that cascade running full power! I love this website, the only place I can witness world records being broken every week!
Words do not describe the awesomeness....
Thanks everyone, as Chilly1 stated we are about to change the third stage gas.
The bus is actually at a respectable 1400Mhz, a bug in CPUZ reads the 3.6E incorrectly.
If I run at 1:1 CPUZ will read the correct information.
If I use memory ratios 5:4 or 3:2 it will default me to the 14x multiple and calculate my FSB and bus speed.
Strangly, when I first start up CPUZ it will read correct FSB, make the small adjustment to the exact machine speed correctly, and then switch to the 14x. It will glitch and flip back to 18x for a split second and return to 14x. It might do this 5 to 10 times in a one minute time span. I have tried to screen shot the correct value when it flips to correct. It is way too fast, by the time I see it on the screen, reflexes are not fast enough to capture it.
If I run 1:1 memory CPUZ reads correctly
CrystalCPU will also read 14x multiple with the real time checker and doesnt update correctly.
The more voltage I gave the chip the faster it went.
Very nice...
Maybe you will take som world records, but I think Tom Holck will come after them with his FX system...
go go go go
Lets see some benching...
probably cpuz bug hehQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
normally, this bug will be corrected in a new version :)
I noticed you mentioned the uGURU chip being the problem, it also happens on the DFI board.
Just gave some feedback as to what I was seeing.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Try crystalcpuid please
http://crystalmark.info/download/dow...e=CrystalCPUID
I will send you a few chosen european beers and a cuban cigar if you nail the 2k1. Not kidding.
does this bug only happen above a certain mhz level?
Awesome team Chilly1 and Fugger make! Congrats! :D
any plans to beat any or all of OPPs 3dmark scores?
with 5.7-5.8ghz benchable u could take 05, and 03, and maybe 01
Amazing... just plain amazing.
Could you tell us a few Details about the NB (Voltage, Temperature, Settings)?
What kind of PWM-temps are you getting with all that insulation around the Socket?
Way to go... :)
Yeah we wanna see some action :DQuote:
Originally Posted by blinky
Enough with the numbers :P
Lets see some brutal power... Didnt you get it stable at 6Ghz???
The first 6Ghz bench... damn... That must be freakin insane... Wouldnt you need 4Ghz on A64 to get ~ same performance???
Prescott J :slobber:
But, I'm answer with your memory's !
Centon Advanced DDR TCCD
What about it in ocing ? Because I have good price with it, and I want to made groupped order in Belgium/France.
Thanks a lot :)
great work fugger, nice to see the record back on the western side of the world. and props to chilly1 as well, cant wait to see what the next 3stage cascade is capable of.
Welcome to extreme Jesper :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by kio_liex
and nice numbers FUGGER :toast:
well, my FX55 can bee here any day now :D
If the Intel-hardware was in Denmark, it would be fun to try that also, my Cascade can go sup -130 C at that "small" load :p:
#Tom H: What about your GFX - Didn´t you broke your X800XT PE or have you got a new one ?
Seems that those E0 cpus are insane clockers - here (copy address, open in new window) is one of those E0s doing over 4.7GHz AIRCOOLED thru superpi 8M test!! :D
Yes, thats insane. It might bee time to change back to Intel :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Where to get E0 Macci?
I removed it from AGP slot before it was "tempered" komponent felt of like glass :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Henrik-
Have not a new yeat..
seems like a lot of serious benching is going down atm - and the winter hasn't really begun... btw, time for a european comeback, hm? macci, tom, pedro, ricky? :)
great job fugger & chilly1. loving this cascade action... :toast:
Still lack of ethylen... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by sky
The dothan is insane
http://www.x86-secret.com/popups/art...dow.php?id=113
aww crapola, is that stuff so hard to come by? dayum. anyway, anyone care to let the guys at the inquirer know the link to this thread?
if you want to read about it at l'inq, go here "crazy fugger does it again" - might aswell set some facts straight about the *real* busspeed. - their link is like inquirer.net/xxxx crappola... :D
I guess the Prometia(Mach 1) P4 cooling unit won't fit around that socket? Seems that those caps are very close to the socket.
Wow, that's awesome! So Fugger, in your estimation, do you think the E0 revision is cooler, both at stock and at load?Quote:
Originally Posted by macci
Also, by the looks of it, it seems that they are x86-64 compatible :)
yey for muppetry :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sky
that dolthon loosks amasing!
the super pi time @ 2.55 is silly .. shame they didnt do one @ 2.8Ghz!
:stick:
What component? Cant get a new one to solder on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Holck
that is seriously insane, 25seconds superpi 1m on air cooling!!! godammmmmmmmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by cpulloverclock
yep, wont be long before that under some japanese ln2. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by blinky
it already is.
Look in the Intel forum
on air... 2.8ghz, got 25 seconds...
on ln2, 3.3ghz, got 25 seconds...
or am i just overlooking something?
yeah, I thought it a bit odd too, but all you can do right now is wait ;)
FUGGER!
When can we expect more benching?
I will fire up in a few hours, I want 23 or 22 second super pi unpatched.
Memesama's 23 seconds I am guessing is a patched, I have 2K to load and see if it helps.
What do you all mean by "patched", I don't understand, are you saying is a fake or something? Sorry my english... is not so good as I thought it was...
There is a patch available that is optimized for Prescott processors. This patch will drop about 2 seconds off the time compared to a unpatched version at 5.5Ghz
Nah...is the new (unofficial I think) Prescott Patch that utilizes Prescott's new instructions...Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenAngel
The "patch" is a "optimaization" much like what we have in 3dmark, alas many consider it a cheat. It's for prescott only AFAIK and a very bad thing for the benching community.
Thanks very much for the input, lol it was obvious and I didn't understood...
/me like patch :D
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/med%20patch%203.9.JPG
With Patch:
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/med%20patch.JPG
Without Patch:
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/uten%20patch.JPG
FallenAngel, don't sweat it. i learned to quote like a month ago :toast: We are in this together and no question is stupid.
DPA: :slapass:
wow.................
umm can you say speachless :D
methinks fugger would be filthy rich if there were a overclocking olympics :D
:rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Crankster
I had to test this "patch".. you guys talk about it all the time. Cant just talk to a child about candy.. he WANTS it afterwards.
well, this is so fu*** insane!!! o_o I see that clocks and I want to kill myself lol
:D http://www.dfi.com.tw/press/press_he...32.jsp&SITE=US
Overclocking champion “Fugger” set a new world record of 6.3 GHz in CPU overclocking
U cant get a dothan 2.1GHz with a dfi 855GME-MGF board?Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Sponsoring dfi usa ;)
CPUOC, way ahead of you on the donthan. cant say much yet.
Already sent corrections into DFI on the BUS speed.
Tell me why the new patch is a cheat???
Isnt it just a patch that utilizes the new instructions and stuff that the prescott has???
Thats like saying that when ATI optimizes the drivers for X800XT core then they cheat?
Or that its cheat when you use a 64Bit OS and 64bit superpi???
Its just an advantage the CPU has... I think its fine...
it may not be strictly a cheat...but certainly doesn't promote a universality (is there a word?) for comparing against other results...as you cannot tell whether it is patched or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mini
True... But still... I mean its a few feaures the CPU has...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xassius
Then 3dmark05 is a cheat??? All that are not pro users cant choose if they want to bench with PS3.0 og 2.0b???
Thats just silly... You compare everything that the CPU can...
Not just some silly Mhz... Thats silly???
½ of WR are made on win2000 with tweaks and all sorts of stuff??? Isnt that cheat as well???
Thats just pure silly IMO...
that's why you post both screenies to avoid any argument ;)
EDIT: Before you know it...there will be DOOM 3 Athlon 64 Edition and DOOM 3 Prescott Edition for tweaks/optimisations :p:
That would be great...
You cant compare like that...
Thats like comparing SCSI 15k HDD with a 5400 PATA Harddisk :D
Except its a cheat if the SCSI runs at 15k RPM...
You should show the FULL potential of every peace of hardware...
Limiting a piece of hardware like that is just sad...
to me, this "patch" is somewhere closer to being like the wireframe hack, or PS-null cheats on 3dmark.
it gives a unfair advantage that other people with prescotts won't have.
personally- this makes me doubt a whole lot of 5 ghz+ overclocks now.
makes me like seeing the A64's and thier screenshots even more, cause I know they are directly comparable to what we all should get if we had the same settings.
if 1 computer is 4 ghz, and getting 34 seconds, and another is 4 ghz and getting 31 seconds, somethings weird there, and thats more then "optimising" to me.
using a64 tweaker to get 1/10th of a second faster per tweak on the ram is one thing, but using a whole different version of pifast so you can get a 5 second faster score, is another thing.
just like how theres "invalid" versions of Pi-fast out there.
it now seems super pi, has it's own invalid version.
I personally find it hard to believe a prescott would have that much of a advantage over a northwood, even with SS3 and such...
Yeah...2 seconds gain in 1M superpi is already quite hard for your non-prescott cpu. Prescott cpu's now can just apply this patch...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
hmm...
First..where did this patch come from? Who wrote it? Any release notes?
5.6 /5.7 was benchable but is more a limit of the agp buss right now... Fugger was working on it last I knew.. PC ice the R14 will be in tomorrow....Quote:
Originally Posted by pc ice
This whole cheating thing is ridiculous, it calculates Pi, patched or non patched.
Take full advantage of every one of the cpu's advantage.
I guess if a 64bit version of superpi was released it would be invalid? (If we assume superpi would gain from a 64bit port).
If amd doesnt use sse3, or intel doesnt use 64bit (well, you know) its not the users problem. The user should try to get the most it can out of his hardware.
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Originally Posted by dpa
Where do we get the patch?
Yes. But this is benchmarking, to be able to compare two systems. If the program doesn't say it's patched or not, how do you know if the benches are compatible? Without the patch, the numbers are comparable to other CPU's without the same "optimizations", ie. they will have a common ground to be compared on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailleur
Imagine having two highspeed trains racing. One train is running on plain old standard railroad, the other is running on special tracks designed only for speed. That would make the race unfair and the results invalid. If they run on the same tracks, that would be a totally different matter, then it would be up to the train and crew to beef up the engine.
Lol, sorry for the metaphore...
Im not interested in knowing which cpu is fastest under certain circumstances, or in this case, constrains. I want to know, which cpu, when i stick it on the motherboard and turn on the pc, will be the fastest. If only that cpu has access to those "special rails" more power to it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailleur
they're will be a 64bit superpi, its not a cheat, it is where the world is going. Even using 64bit XP with 32bit Superpi gives you a 1sec gain over 2000. (both fresh installs tested by me)
Well, that's ok. But the comparisons in this thread is about circumstances and common platforms to compete on, otherwise it'll be very difficult to get straight comparisons. The aim here is to show us what a P4 @ 6+Ghz can do with the same program and settings that other benches have been made with. If someone suddenly use an optimized version of a program, the comparison will be skewed and useless to others using a non-optimized version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ailleur
Of course, if everyone used only the patched version, it wouldn't be a problem, but then comparisons between CPU's without those extra instructions would be skewed (northwood's, amd's). And it's possible to do 2 benches as someone posted earlier.
Where is this patched version. I would like to try a comparitive view as well with my P42.8C coupled with the DFI Lanparty 875bPro verB1.
Here is the patch:
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/pipatch.zip
Congratulations fugger and chilly1.....really awesome breakthrough in the P4 arena....woot!!!!
http://www012.upp.so-net.ne.jp/ohij2/p4.htm
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Whos that by?
HideoQuote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
Japs are getting closer :p
It's out of this world, they ALWAYS get the oc WR nomather the kind of cpu they're dealing with :)
6..It's a really great work. :toast:
And I think maybe you can try to disable the
"CPC Addr/control" in asvanced chipset features.
It will have benefits when you runs in 5:4 OR 3:2.
awesome this LGA.....6.3 Ghz with 1.616V wow
and I was just getting hyped up about my impending fx-55/vapochill LS rig... :rolleyes:
Awesome Job Fugger!!! :toast:
On the patch front, there are Linux versions of superpi that will calculate 1M in 10 seconds, should they be allowed too? If the patch allows the Prescotts to do things that they can do in normal programs then it's debateable whether they're valid scores, if it's a superpi-only optimisation then it's very dodgy to me.
On the clock front, that's a damn nice job FUGGER :D
It can't be. I got 22 seconds with an identical setup at 5,3Ghz (patched).Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
24s still at 5,5Ghz for me though, need to work on it.