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Originally Posted by NiCKE^
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No i have a PCI Raid ControllerQuote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
but if your bus isn't locking than that doesn't always matter. Somep PCI RAID controllers don't care about a bus of 66mhz other don't like just being out of stock, so I would rule it out.
I can clock the fsb on 300mhz in the windows. When i clock the fsb in bios on 300fsb, than is the screen black by the next boot.
msi k8n neo2
3200+(0433SPMW),vcore=1.408v.
GS TCCD (Vdimm=2.8v)
AIR COOLER:HYPER 6
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G51.JPG
It's all luck of the draw. My retail 3500+ Winchester needs 1.6V to do 2.5GHz Prime stable. I can run windows and SuperPi at much higher clocks but Prime errors out immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by PnoT
B
peter lu
Mmm. Nice memory!
msi k8n neo2
90nm 3200+(0433SPMW)
GS TCCD
air cooler =>HYPER 6
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G59.JPG
SuperPi 8M @ 2818MHz => 5m 27sec
That's some nice results! I do need to spend all my money on a 3200+ instead of a 3000+ :D
I was wondering the same.... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
WHY THE HELL IS NO ONE PUTTING HIS WINNY UNDER A PROMM ? please answer me !!
Because motherboards are too dumb to register the neg temps so -20*C is to the motherboard sometimes a positive 200*C at which point the computer stops working. It seems like a modded BIOS could fix that tho.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sai
ehhh... my 3000 is working great under a prom......
Which boards work and which not ? I need to get a new sys and it'll be great not to take something that doesn't work with my prommy
Edit:
is a 3500+ worth the extra 80euro ?
mikem,Quote:
Originally Posted by mikem
No issues, no problems? Do you have any theories to other peep's problems??? So you haven't observed the -18C, -19C, -20C BOOM OFF.....
deal??
Nope... my mach 1 is regassed with bbq grade propane, and has a shorter cap tube for greater capacity....it stays at a nice and cool -51 on the display with this winchester....my old barton used to drag it down to -45, so these winchester's run nice and cool.....
I dunno why so many guys are having problems, unless it is just with the mach 2's?
sai....I would get atleast a 3200 as the 3000's 9x multi is too limiting.
3000+ 9x
3200+ 9,5x
3500+ 10x
I guess ? Which board to get ?
3000+ 9x
3200+ 10x
3500+ 11x
Are there ever going to be mobile versions of socket 939? I think some 35W Winchesters would clock like madbeasts.
theres going to be mobile chips, but I think their S754. But who knows...could change.
hot damn, a mobile 754 winchester, now THAT is bang for the buck :p:
Hmz if I got this right the motherboards for s939 cant read negative degrees so it will :banana::banana::banana::banana: up and show like +60C? Isnt possible to shut down the option that the computer should turn off if the cpu gets to hot? or isnt there any option like it in the bios?
.. and I still don't know wich board to get, great !
3200+ 0433 SPMW
MSI Neo2
Gskill TCCD
Watercooling with 20C ambient
http://hem.bredband.net/b286021/2775%20spi.JPG
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/data/500/88862755.JPG
The time is so bad, because my BH-6 memory runs with 180mhz 2-2-2-6 and i haven´t got dual channel
Riverna: cooling? stepping?
ADA3200DIK4BIQuote:
Originally Posted by Rauf
CBBFD 0433SPMW
1058936H40372
I have a watercooling with tripple radi
update:p:
msi k8n neo2
90nm 3200+(0433SPMW)
GS TCCD
air cooler =>HYPER 6
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G62.JPG
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G67.JPG
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G68.JPG
http://my.so-net.net.tw/xu1060/G64.JPG
SuperPi 8M @ 2808MHz => 5m 24sec
Well, I got fed up with my 3200+ barely being stable at 1.7 vcore at 2380 so I ordered a 3000+ (I was too poor to get another 3200). For starters I got a week 37 WPAW 3000+ compaired to week 33 SPMW 3200. I'm now running at 2565 (9 x 285) with 5/6 mem divider at 1.52 vcore. I've only been testing it for a short while but right now its doing 33s Super Pi. I tried 9 x 290 to no avail at any voltage, and I need to play with the ram to see if 1:1 is possible, but I must say that I'm pleased with the newer week chip. Now if I just had a 10x multi...
All tests done with XP-90 + 92mm Panaflo UH
Kanati
a friend has got one (3200+)
stepping :
ADA3200DIK4BI
CBBFD 0432TPMW
1036416H40031
it is water-cooled (micro channel) and stable at 2.7GHz with 1.6v :)
ok... finally found the *real* problem with my OC :stick:
i have a pre 0418A2 northbridge on my neo2 :( basically means it craps out at 260/265 fsb... which is what has been happening. so i tried with only one stick of RAM and bingo:
http://www.wo33er.com/9x290.jpg
i shall be replacing the board sharpish.... cant wait to get that 290fsb dual channel!! timings are 3-4-4-11-1T on standard OCZ pc4400 @ 2.85V
For the people in here that were able to get high overclocks with your cpus, do you mind telling me where you bought your chip from? I'm planning on buying a 3000 Winchester soon, and I might buy it from the same place. Maybe it might be from the same batch? And please let me know if the CPU you bought is an OEM or retail version. The people I'm talking about are Mikem, Peter lu, Arj, and Charlie. And anyone else who would like to give me some info. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Monarch oem here
Cut that air and water crap ! :p:
I wanna see the real shiznit ! :D
Monarch oem 3000+ (9 x 285) 1.55volt on air.
Well I really guess it's just a luck of the draw then. I've heard others who bought it retail that didn't get as high overclock as the results in here. And for now I don't think I'll be getting it from New Egg because currently they have the highest prices on those chips. Maybe, monarch or zipzoom fly...I heard someone who bought theirs from mwave that didn't overclock really well...I'm afraid that maybe if i do buy from there I might get the same results. Same batch probably? Is it all really just random? Or are OEMs really better overclockers than retail versions?
OEM 3200+ from newegg. i'm disappointed with it tbh. it seems that the retail versions go better than OEM and 3500+ go especially well atm. i'm personally selling my 3200+ and going for a 3500+ retail
Asus A8V Deluxe rev. 2.0
3200+ Winchester @ 2600Mhz - 1.45 vcore
stepping: 0433RPMW
BOX cooler (gonna get a Coolermaster Hyper6 on it soon)
X800XT PE
http://www.upit.dk/u/2600.JPG
http://www.upit.dk/u/superpi.JPG
temp is high because I had just run 3dmark and superpi is crappy because of my lousy ram! :p:
I too have noticed that the 3500+ 90nm seem to clock very well (on average)... to bad that its outta my price range. I'm a student :dammit:
Just got my new oem 3200+ in....
The good news is that it works just fine in my mach 1....
The bad news is ..... what a piece of crap!!!
My 3000+ can do 3.1 Ghz...this new 3200 tops out at about 2.7 Ghz...
very dissappointing.
Maybe I will try one more time and buy a retail 3500.....
Here's my 3200+ max stable, on watercooling ;)
http://img105.exs.cx/img105/5641/3200.jpg
I would say there is a factor of luck involved, but more than luck I'm seeing a trend of the later the chip was made the better it overclocks. Post week 37 seems good. Since the memory controller is integrated that can be a big factor as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freya
Retail/OEM shouldn't make any difference - unless you subscribe to the theory that retail CPU's are better due to the longer warranty. (Which I don't)
:D
I don't know the stepping of my 3200+, and I'm currently using the cooler that came with it. I have a new DD block waiting for me to get my watercooling rig going.
Have not tried higher fsb yet.
Anyone know if the OCZ booster is needed for my ram?
was bored, did a little more benching. finally broke 30k on my shuttle sff sn95g5 with stock xtPE speeds. all done in 29c room temp.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8237697
What is the highest voltage the Winchester core will support?
what ever you throw at it :D
by that I'm assuming you mean sort-a safe voltage...That hasn't really been found yet....1.65 would be my guess.
i've used 1.8V it isn't dead yet
who has tried it with Phase cooling?
yeah 1.65 seems alittle too on the safe side, I myself would probly kick 1.7v through it, maybe alittle more. I really don't want to worry about too much volts killing my chip.
alright i've ordered a new mobo and a retail 3500+. that should give me some nice fsb and a good clock :) then i gotta save enough for a vapochill LS...
Just put my 3500+ Winchester in my computer this morning. 2.6GHz@1.55v is PrimeStable for 2 hours now. That's the longest I've had it running for now. Anyway, it's kind of strange. Can't run SuperPI even at 1M @ 2.7GHz no matter what voltage. Load temp are about 50 Degrees Celcius.
http://www.home.no/jimramse/Pictures...60%201.55v.JPG
Are u running on air?? If so, I guess overheating is causing the stability issues... 50degC load temps are kinda hitting the ceiling for the winnies
Yeah, I'm running on air. It's probably the temp that keeps me from going higher. I tried lowering the voltage to 1.45v a couple of hours ago, and it's still Priming. I like this CPU more and more :D
what mobo you on there Kane? nice OC for 1.45V! the 3500+s definately seem to be going better, hope mine does too.
I ended up on 1.5v for total stability. 1.45v failed Prime95 after a couple of hours. With 1.5v it can go 12 hours +. I'm using the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum mainboard. I'm very happy with it. Can't wait to get my X800XTPE that should be in my mailbox come monday or tuesday.
Anyone tried watercooling with the Winchester?
I am now running with the stock aircooler @ 270*9,5, maks temp with prime is 58C. The voltage is 1.58v.
I plan to install my watercooling kit tomorrow so I can try some more voltage.
Is it possible to increase chipset voltage, and if so is there any point as the mem ctrl is on the cpu?
yeah there is a point. The chipset still has to process info, so if you hit a wall in FSB speed, that may give you a few more mhz.
I tried a 3200 winchester with my watercooling and had awesome results! 33c load! This was on the gigabyte "Ultra" nf3Quote:
Originally Posted by toreide
Do You guys have also a problem while buying on www.mvave.com ??? Everything is ok until I want to purchase my stuff , page is not loading :(
Well, first I wanna say that this is the greatest place for overclockers I#ve ever seen. This forums've helped me very much setting up my K8N Neo2 Platinum Winchester 3200+ combo today.
My 3200+ is week 0441 and is running with the AMD stock cooler at 2500 Mhz between 1,408 and 1,424 volts at the moment. Well I hope you understand my great english :) I've attached a screenshot.
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/atta...id=19526&stc=1
Tomorrow I'll try higher clockspeeds with my atotech mc-1 watercooler and an alphacool A64 watercooler. I think there is more speed inside this one.
But, one problem I've at the moment. My Corsair XMS3502 v1.1 256 MB sticks don't want to run with this board. Only beep beed. The two Infineons work properly. I want to use my Corsairs. What is about three sticks? Dual channel possible, or not? Ok, enough questions for the moment.
greetz from germany,
Erik
thats pretty good, about stock voltage, just alittle above and 2.5ghz....yeah lets see what that thing can do under water. Push it too the limit! good luck
jjcom
Hello all,
I am planning on going witha AMD 64 3000+, 1 gig of OCZ Platinum EL Rev. 2, Thermalright xp-120 with a delta fan. Do any of you have a better suggestion on the processor should i get the 3200 for the extra multiplier or is it uneccessary? Is there a better ram that i should get (around 260 price)? Will this cooler do the trick or is there a better air cooler? Thanks for the help! :banana: dance! naner , dAnce!!!
ps you want to see something cool set that banana as your wallpaper tiled and play a good tune the little guys gots moves.
here is a "best guess" type question to noodle.
got a winnie coming in with a neo. to cool it I was gonna go with water:
MCW462-UH (modded to fit amd) or maze4, and a polarflo gpu sink. this with chevette heatercore, 2x150cfm delta 120mm. via aqua 370gph pump (1300). got all this stuff already.
so now I have the oppurtunity to trade a spare 2400+mobile xp for a 225w pelt, a meanwell clone (astec?) PSU w/ 22amps on 12v, coldplate, and another via 1300.
my thinking is if these winnies do so well 2.8-3.0 on air at lowish temps (18-20c window open air
tehn they might really enjoy it if load temps were way down there. problem is, I have no idea if I would get the load temps down that low, or if the chevette could handle that heatload, or if it is worth the hassle, like if it is worth 100mhz or so.
this is a second rig to keep at my fiances house - so I can game while I am there on the weekends, until she does not want to marry me anymore. so ease of boot/danger/noise is a factor. shoulld I jsut go water or are tec a really good idea for winnies? I suppose I could leave everyday overclock low, like 2.2ghz, so that temps would not climb too high and fans could be run a bit lower - then reboot or use clockgen to my settings for bench/games. trouble is I have no idea how much heat I will generate, and if it will necessitate full van voltage at all times. my biggest worry is heeat blowback, where the cpu gets hotter and hotter with the tec unable to keep up. or the GF unplugging the tec psu or waterpump plug by accident. or their power going out (they have crappy power grids in the apt), and when it comes back on, the tec stays powered w/ pump and some fans, and everything freezes over good, then shorts on next reboot when it melts.
totally unsure what to do here. hope im not crapping the thread, jsut had not heard much about the possible effects of tec on this cpu, or even water for that matter. jsut high end air and phase that everyone is intererested in?
I'm gonna get my 3200+ winchester today.
Its a:
ADA3200DIK4BI
CBBFD 0431UPCW
1024316H40350
Any good?
Tia
First off don't get a delta, the xp coolers just don't benefit that much from having a turbine in your system(I've tried 130CFM vs. 60 CFM with 1-2 degree difference) what good is your computer if you can't hear your speakers ;). Also, if you are getting a neo2 prepare to have some fit issues with that xp-120. If you are on a budget, you might consider getting an XP-90 and a gig of PQI Turbo or PDP XBLk. With the money you saved there spring for the 3500 winnie for the higher multis and (at least to me) seemingly more consistent overclocking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4tt
Hey guys i am new to this Forum ...and i was looking for help to OC my Chip...i can't seem to find right stable settings....anybody have this setup could give me some help ...right now idle is 27 - 28 ....!!
Well it looks like I have a dud Winchester 3200+ here. 2400 MHz is all it will do. This is with a hyper 6 and at 1.67 Volts.
This one is 0434TPMW, ordered from Monarch. I am glad I got it to run with BH-5 @ 240 FSB 1:1 but I wish for more clockspeed.
Just the luck of the draw I guess...
Might try another one from a different store later on.
strange thing with the winnies i can cold boot at 10X260.
@mindroaster
what kind of cooling are you using? Looks like a heavy freezer.
I hope if my new waterblock arrives 3 Gigs are possible for me too. My MSI runs with 301 MHz and 1:1 RAM (2.5-4-4-9) * 8 or 258 *10 with stock voltage without problems. It would be perfect to run 301*10. If the block arrives on Monday I'll post how many Mhz the system reaches. Is there somebody around who reached 3 Gigs with watercoolling?
greetz,
Erik
I'm still fiddling a lot here and very annoyed I can't get my asus star ice to fit this board! I'm stuck on the stock cooler and don't want to push too many volts through it atm. However, the initial results are good! Now all I need is a damned hsf. I've only been testing with the 137b bios so far.
http://members.boards.ie/tacticalanni/2.7GHZ.jpg
sweet clocks folks :toast:
Looking to grab a 3500+ for myself ... whats your stepping?? Great OC considering its on stock HSF (the whiny AMD fan is the problem if u ask me :P)
May I know the stepping of your 3500+??
Not yet, but I promise as soon as I get myself and XP90/120 fitted to this sucker I'll check the stepping on it then and post back. Will likely be mid-next week. The only thing I did to the board when I got it was remove the pigeon dropping under the NB hsf and replace it with a nice layer of AS5. That one I posted above failed prime after a few hours this morning :(
A bit more voltage/cooling should see it stable considering prime ran for a good few hours before it crapped out on me. Have managed 2.593Ghz stable so far. All I can say on the chip for now is it was a boxed retail version :p
Really haven't had enough time to play!
Got some time to clock mine but only with the stock heatsink and fan.
http://w1.971.telia.com/~u97102906/w...364@265fsb.jpg
http://w1.971.telia.com/~u97102906/w...sek@2.6ghz.jpg
:banana4:
All these crazy OCs on Stock HSF are just insane :P ... going out to grab me 1 this weekend ... Keep up the good work guys ... How abt sticking it with some good old W/C and more voltage loving to see where it maxes :D
just call them directly.Quote:
Originally Posted by wampir
so great overclocking !
i bought a 3200+ winchester but 0.09 seems to be less good in Europe , lol
Max is 9*278 so 2.5ghz with 1.63v and it's not stable ...
If someone wants to make happy a poor french guy before christmas , sell me your cpu ... :)
Got mine to do 2.8ghz. Didnt try any higher.
Hi all.
Was fiddling with a Winchester 3200+ and a Abit AV8 for the last few days.
Could not get it stable over 2200 mhz. Found and finally understood the LDT thing in BIOS but would still not make my system stable. Lowered RAM settings etc.
Big discovery: The AV8 did not like FAST WRITES enabled (read it somewher). So I disabled. WOW
100% stable at 2500 mhz now HT=4 , 3-4-4-8 1T (Corsair twinX 1024 pro)
Radeon 9700PRO. Vcore 1.65 Corsair Hydrocool200 EX
Hope this helps others. It sure helped me. Now going for 1:1 RAM/CPU ratio, RAM at 200
Oh.. Temps 51 idle / 55 heavy load (Prime95 12 hours)
damn , in aircooling ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
:eek:
Yeah stock cooler.
2.8Ghz @ what vcore?
what Vdimm nicke ?
It's in the picture. Memory Voltage 2.85v
default volt of winchester is 1.4 right? A lot of ADs saying 3500+ runs at 1.5V
Hmz when I have mine on auto I dont get it on 1.4v I think. I use to get lower like 1.35 or something.
this is with a Abit AV8 & MachII its not stable (yet) but... :slobber:
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/7428/30000.jpg
I'm planning on buying a Winny too, but I'm doubting a bit between the 3200+ and 3500+, they seem to overclock about the same, but I've seen more 3500+ do high speeds and more 3200+ stay at lower speeds. And there's the multi difference. The price difference is about 60 Euro, so that's not very much, what would you guys recommend me?
great stuff camel! where did you buy your AV8? did it already have latest bios installed?
i...ummm...got it from....ummm...Tiger Direct
it had BIOS 15 which let me boot with the winnie...
then i flashed to 16....TicTac / Merlin / other BIOS modders: where are you...mod us up some Abit subZero BIOSs :toast:
PS that 3GHz is NOT stable....cant really get anything in the 2900's stable...ill be spending this weekend getting SOMETHING stable...(i hope)
I wanted to report my experiances and blunders overclocking a Winchester 3200.
I went with the MSI Neo2, and I love it. I am in Canada, so RAM is hard to find and not cheap! I went with 2* 512 of Kingmax Hard-core PC4000 . My current O/C - timings are as follows, all Prime stable.
FSB 250, mult * 10, mem @ 1:1, timings @ 2.5,3,3,10 (not bad for Kingmax!)
My CPU runs at 41 C idle and 53 Load using a Zalman 7000 Al-Cu.
The real fun started when my Antec Truepower 380 blew up. It came with my Antec Sonata case and while I knew overclocking might be iffy on it, it had 21A of 12 V so I thought it was worth a try. I thought it would at least gracefully shut down under too much load, however after about 12 hours of use it made a very loud popping sound and faded away. I replaced it with an Enermax Noisetaker 470 (hard to find OCZ here), and it's humming along fine.
I will go higher with the FSB, I'm just afraid of another PSU blow up :) PLus my 1M super pi is only 33s so who can complain? I just love this Winnie!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Camel
you are stable with 2x512bh5 on your abit? :confused:
have not tried my BH-5 in this yet...only G-Skill & Mushkin (both "new" TCCD)Quote:
Originally Posted by d@rkn1ko
i hope to give the BH-5 a shot sometime this weekend.
Same thing happened to my Antec 480 TPower. But mine killed itself after onli 5mins of use :P Wonder if its a problem with the Antecs and the MSI mobos
It turns out my Corsair 3200XL is not so good at high fsbs (not stable at even 250fsb no matter the timings :(). Currently running at 235fsb on 2-3-3-6 (295x8.5 with 166 mem divider)
What do u guys think ... should I trade those in for with a US$60 and upgrade to the 4400CPT models with 2.5-4-4-8 in hopes of running 1 to 1 at 290ish FSB.
Is it really worth the upgrade or am I better off sticking to tighter timings with a lower fsb??
Maybe go for some other TCCD chips....OCZ makes some nice ones as well...Newegg got em in 1gb dual channel package (2x512mb)
jjcom
the XLs are TCCD ... they are the ones rated at 2-2-2-5.
Just that corsair doesnt use the brainpower PCBs
Damn .... I really want to run at 1:1 ... but as of right now. .. the speed is already blazing fast at 235fsb 2-3-3-6 :P
Then again .... the ram is really expensive here locally .. abt US$350 for the platinum 4400CPT TCCD Corsairs ... with tade of 3200XL and topup is US$60
Worth it?? :confused:
what other brands of RAM can you get your hands on? Maybe you could try one of those out, if one brand doesn't work well enough, move on. OCZ works well, Corsair, Patroit seems to be good as well...
jjcom