hipro dont u wanna make ur own memory PCB? :)
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hipro dont u wanna make ur own memory PCB? :)
Man, hipro, I'd really like to know if some "ordinary" BH-6 can outperform my KHX :D ;)
Awesome Hipro...pencil me in for a few 512 sticks. :D
This has to be just about the hottest thread I've seen in a long time haha.
Nice 5 pages in less then a day :toast:
I'd be in for 2x512 if the whole set hasn't been claimed yet >.<
Hipro has his work cut out for him. I'll upload you some pics of how you make large modules w/low density chips in a minute. I doubt most of you have seen this before. Most makers prefer to move to 64mb chips instead of stacking 32mb chips.
2x512 sticks here please ! :slobber:
Here's some doublestackers.
Another angle.
One last angle.
nice photos of that ram, have you tested out some of that and how well does your own ram overclock? also could it be possible that if one weak chip out of 16 on a stick holds the rest back? This may mean unsoldiering one chip, putting another on and bam, 20fsb higher cause that single weak chip was the bottleneck, also explains why 256mb sticks oc better than 512mb
2x512mb possibly 4 if the price is right 4 me:D
Hi Pro Ram has a nice ring to it, very marketable imo :D
Congratulations, Geforce4ti4200, you just made it to my ignore list. Your posts are very painful reading :(
Hahahah Gazc, nice post, I agree with you, his posts are somewhat painfully rediculous.
It's pc2100 ram. It's mystery RAM that came back. No idea who the owner of it is. It has 7.5ns micron chips on it (has the good ole mT logo on there). I wouldn't even bother attempting to overclock it. It ain't mine anyways, just some crap I had laying around at work that I use for test benches once in awhile.
Just figured I'd give y'all a pic of what 1gb low density RAM looks like.
You guys have to remember the IC's do have to be binned for speed before they go on a module..then the modules are built and then rebinned again.
Also, not to put a downer on this but the last BH6 we tried sucked bad, it was the absoloute bottom of the barrel.This is why we stopped stocking it.
One last thing you all have to remember.
BH5, BH6 and BH7 all come off the same wafer.BH6 is BH5 fails.BH7 is BH6 fails..nothing more.They all take the same voltage etc as they are really the same IC, just binned for speed by winbond.
That's pretty interesting, bigtoe. I, for one didn't know that. So to some extent, RAM is kinda similar to CPUs, they're all the same, but some just clock better. :cool: EDIT: ACK!! bigtoe, post something, quick! :eek: ;)
so bigtoe, its a bad idea to use pc2100 PCB cause it might hurt the oc of your ram as opposed to say pc3200 PCB? also I knew about the binning thing, but is it true once you throw volts, bh6 catches right up to bh5? so I assume bh6 isnt as good as bh5 if both are using low volts but with volts, both rule?
Unless the PCB is horribly designed, I dont think there will be more than 5mhz (possibly 10 if the cleaner guys cook a pizza in the ovens) difference in the ending clock/overclock..
I'm up for a few 512mb sticks if the price is right.
I don't doubt you HIPRO, but its gonna take some hella ram to beat this 3700EB.
i'd be down for like 3 sticks of 512. would be nice to have with that new dfi board running with a a64 3700
How's that for an "ordinary" BH-6 Kingston Value Rams PC2700(DDR333) ???....... :DQuote:
Originally posted by SAE
Man, hipro, I'd really like to know if some "ordinary" BH-6 can outperform my KHX :D ;)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/P...1_buff_png.png
Unbuffered
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/P...unbuff_png.png
.......and one single mode....... :D
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/P...Hz_big_jpg.jpg
hipro,
can you also change the spdrom?
Cause a pc2700 spd isnt that good :(
The results llok brilliant!! Which volts?
We'll built a cirquit for it .........A friend of mine who is a programmer told me that he can do it IF we build a cirquit for so as he can program it....... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Flib
hipro,
can you also change the spdrom?
Cause a pc2700 spd isnt that good :(
The results llok brilliant!! Which volts?
Volts are 3.5Vdimm
Nice thought....!!!!........I think I'll try something like this for experament....... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kalway
Here's some doublestackers.
bigtoe the ones I've found were made in the year of 2002 ........Your's and Mushkin's were the newer ones in year 2003.......I think that Winbond turned on their machines once again in the year 2003 , so as to produce some more BH-5 chips(their last ones) for some companies...........Not all productions are the same........The worst of BH-6 I've seen (not including year 2003 - the worst) was the BH-6 AND BH-5 of 245WD branded.........The best so far are the 226 and 225 ones the can do with 3.1Vdimm , 253+MHz........ ;)Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
You guys have to remember the IC's do have to be binned for speed before they go on a module..then the modules are built and then rebinned again.
Also, not to put a downer on this but the last BH6 we tried sucked bad, it was the absoloute bottom of the barrel.This is why we stopped stocking it.
One last thing you all have to remember.
BH5, BH6 and BH7 all come off the same wafer.BH6 is BH5 fails.BH7 is BH6 fails..nothing more.They all take the same voltage etc as they are really the same IC, just binned for speed by winbond.
You are crazy man......... :D :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by SPiKE
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
I WANT!!! :D
http://episode.serverdelsur.com.ar/Spika/hipro.jpg
To fix some compatibility issues you could make a single sided/doublestacked 512mb stick.
One problem with doublestackers is heat. It's very difficult to cool the bottoms chips, and they heat up the top chips. So you must cool the top ones very well.
Hipro
You still would need to bin them before you build modules, then again once built.
Its more involved that you all i think i feel here
Don't put me into this M8......... :DQuote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Hipro
You still would need to bin them before you build modules, then again once built.
Its more involved that you all i think i feel here
I'll built a circuit for the SPD chip so as we could program it.........Not build another one circuit so as to test each chip individual......... :D
I'll solder them onto their PCB and IF something will go wrong , I'll unsolder them and visa-versa.... It takes me about 2.5 - 3 min for each 256 module to unsolder and solder back..........I'm NOT going to be reach with this stuff...I'd love to get all these chips so as NOT to be through them away some time.........I don't own a big company for such things you know........
BIG EDIT : :D I've found about the same quantity in BH-5 chips too......Not bad I think...... :D
Hipro-Winbond company is born :)
:DQuote:
Originally posted by eva2000
Hipro-Winbond company is born :)
shazam! same price for the BH-5?Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
quantity in BH-5 chips too......Not bad I think...... :D
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Originally posted by hipro5
BIG EDIT : :D I've found about the same quantity in BH-5 chips too......Not bad I think...... :D
:banana: :banana: :banana:
I do not know about the price yet........I'm waiting for a reply to my e-mail from them....... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
shazam! same price for the BH-5?
Hipro..you have absolutely NO IDEA whats involved with this....make a fast buck by buying and sellling the chips on to another dram manufacturer as just randomly soldering chips to a PCB is not going to get you good modules...trust me i work for a dram manufacturer you know ;)
You would need to buy the IC's...have them speed binned and graded, then have the modules built, then speed bin and set spd.
Im all for you having a go but you really do need to fully apreciate what is involved in getting the modules to perform well.
If you are going to do this do it properly or you would just be wasting your money.
On a side note we know there are still stocks of BH6 and BH5 out there, its just not worth persuing them for us as the yield was so low and the EB was so much better.
Hipro..good luck m8
I'll give it a try and we'll see........Thanks M8........ :)
You work for OCZ?Quote:
Originally posted by bigtoe
Hipro..you have absolutely NO IDEA whats involved with this....make a fast buck by buying and sellling the chips on to another dram manufacturer as just randomly soldering chips to a PCB is not going to get you good modules...trust me i work for a dram manufacturer you know ;)
You would need to buy the IC's...have them speed binned and graded, then have the modules built, then speed bin and set spd.
Im all for you having a go but you really do need to fully apreciate what is involved in getting the modules to perform well.
If you are going to do this do it properly or you would just be wasting your money.
On a side note we know there are still stocks of BH6 and BH5 out there, its just not worth persuing them for us as the yield was so low and the EB was so much better.
Hipro..good luck m8
If this all works out as i hope it will i whould be interested in 2*512 BH-5/6 aswell.
:)
Same here. I would like 2*512 also :toast: .
Hipro go on I have a 512 kingston value ram with infineon bt-6
Wanna test???
I think that too.........Why are you trying so hard to discourage hipro5 and take all those BH5/6 for some company that will sell them 2 times more?????:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by SPiKE
You work for OCZ?
No offence OK?:D
That's the only way. You never know someone's intention... no offense BigToe... so seeing for yourself is the only way. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by hipro5
I'll give it a try and we'll see........Thanks M8........ :)
Good luck! :toast:
I believe Hipro5 will work things out. He always does and bigtoe will prove himself wrong
Thanks M8......... :toast:Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
That's the only way. You never know someone's intention... no offense BigToe... so seeing for yourself is the only way. ;)
Good luck! :toast:
Im not in any way trying to discourage Hipro from doing this...im just trying to help him decide what is the best way to do this and if it is worth spending potentially a lot of cash.
You have to remember the spot market had OCZ, Buffalo and Mushkin all buying BH6 and BH5 in just the same way as Hipro is doing now..we all tested IC's on a regular basis and all now decided the yield is to low to actually think it was worth while carrying on with BH based modules.If there was still good stuff out there trust me OCZ would buy it.
Now, this doesn't mean some of the BH5 hipro has found will not be any good...what it does mean is that careful speed binning will be needed before modules are built and this IC speed binning is not cheap. I just have a feeling you guys think its a simple task of soldering an IC on a pcb and thats it you have a wonder module...i can tell you this is far from the case.
If you guys had any idea of how many modules and IC's we test at ocz you would know that it takes a long time to find a stable source of good IC's etc and they have to be constantly checked week in week out for constistancy.
Also the pcb has to have the correct components to accept the BH IC so just any old PCB will not do..you have to be careful here.
Now to finish for those who don't know I work for OCZ and have done over a year now.I was instrumental in deciding if OCZ would restock the BH5 and BH6 modules and i also had a hand in deciding to drop them when yield bagan to suck.The last BH6 we tested was that bad less than 20% would do 200fsb at 2.8Vdimm, this is why i am expressing caution here.
Im advising caution here bud..you need to read my posts more carefully.Im not here to prove anyone wrong or be proven wrong, im just trying to help with carefully thought out advice.Quote:
Originally posted by georgesod
I believe Hipro5 will work things out. He always does and bigtoe will prove himself wrong
bigtoe is right...........That's NOT easy what I'll try to do........It needs (at the begeining) hours so as to figure out what will happen and how good are they........We'll se...........Time will tell us....... :)
Didn't mean for you to get upset BigToe. Just wanted to encourage the "little guy" because that's usually how great things happen (ie. the madman working on something in his garage from 1am to 6am daily ;)).
Again... good luck HiPro. With the quality of work we've all seen from you in the past... I doubt anyone here questions whether or not you'll be able to do something great(if it's possible).
:up:
You are 100% correct Jeff.......
Hipro did you established the cost yet?????
My kingston value ram has infineon chips(bt-6) and spd 2-3-3-6 for 166 and 3-3-3-9 is it possible you can do the job with those without spd programming just soldering the new chips??
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
Thats exactly what im saying...Thank you :)Quote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
hipro :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
hellas spirit rulezzzzz:D
Are these BH-5s your talking about the earlier 225, 226 "good" modules?
Bigtoe you are right it wil take a lot hours to produce many BH5/6 RAMS but why the heck hipro5 shouldn't try it.........
He is the best at what he does after all......
No offence again my friend.....
BH-5/6 isn't produced anymore but is the best ram and hipro is right now the only way we can get those RAMS
Do not know......Maybe today or tommorow I'll have an answer from them for the numbers on them and hopefully a picture of a chip..........I know I've asked them a lot , BUT I want to be sure before I buy anything.........Quote:
Originally posted by aoc007
Are these BH-5s your talking about the earlier 225, 226 "good" modules?
You are right BUT you have to understand that I don't want to be rich out of it......After all I have my job......I have pattient of what I'm doing and even if I could built 2 pairs a day , I REALY DON'T care......I like making people happy...... ;) :DQuote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
P.S. IF this will happen at last , I will NOT permit NOT even one module "go away" without making 240MHz(480MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.1Vdimm.......and MINIMUM 265MHz(530MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.5Vdimm on a Canterwood mobo......So on an A64 would perform even better..........ALL of the modules will be tested and will have their "lebel" on them of what they did and how they did it.....HAS anyone else done such a thing before???......You will KNOW EXACTLY what you're getting.....NOT BAD!!!...... :D
I own a company that manufactures RF F.M. Transmiters(PLL Exciters and RF amplifiers) and VHF - UHF TV tranposers , repeaters , e.t.c.......So I'm IN the spirit of designing (as I desing and produce my own PCBs) and manufacturing........ ;)Quote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ). [/B]
PLL FM 20Watts...... :)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Temp/pllslim.jpg
When can I send you the money :DQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
You are right BUT you have to understand that I don't want to be rich out of it......After all I have my job......I have pattient of what I'm doing and even if I could built 2 pairs a day , I REALY DON'T care......I like making people happy...... ;) :D
P.S. IF this will happen at last , I will NOT permit NOT even one module "go away" without making 240MHz(480MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.1Vdimm.......and MINIMUM 265MHz(530MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.5Vdimm on a Canterwood mobo......So on an A64 would perform even better..........ALL of the modules will be tested and will have their "lebel" on them of what they did and how they did it.....HAS anyone else done such a thing before???......You will KNOW EXACTLY what you're getting.....NOT BAD!!!...... :D
I own a company that manufactures RF F.M. Transmiters(PLL Exciters and RF amplifiers) and VHF - UHF TV tranposers , repeaters , e.t.c.......So I'm IN the spirit of designing (as I desing and produce my own PCBs) and manufacturing........ ;)
PLL FM 20Watts...... :)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Temp/pllslim.jpg
the problem is, if you can only make 2 dimms a day, then in every 6 dimms you find one faulty, and it takes de-soldering and re-soldering each chips before you find a faulty one taking another day.
THen you find the first few's pcb's all burn out after a few weeks. I'm not trying to be a buzz kill, but assuming you don't have the equipment to pre test the chips without being on a dimm, then you won't have the time saving bit of discarding dead chips straight off. THeres also very little garentee that most would come close to 240mhz.
THe other side of the argument is, you could get lucky and not get a single bad chip at all , have no delays with anything going wrong and have none die within a very fair time of being sold.
Really, hopefully you can buy a small amount at first to check the average quality so you don't get in deep.
I don't even know how you might test the chips beforehand, bigtoe, is it a case of having a dimm roughly like a bios chip, 8 plugable slots, and try them out very quickly to narrow down and try to quickly weed out dead or faulty IC's?
Either way, good luck to ya. Will be all good if some is available in uk without stupid prices. STill can't quite get over £185 for a gig of EB imported from teh states(with tax added) and £250 from a uk store.
He is certainly the man.....240mhz with 3,1vdimm rocking!!!!!!!
I'm proud to be Greek
Will you accept credit cards?:D :D
Hipro, I know you can do it:toast: :toast:
Keep some sticks to Portugal.....:banana: :banana:
He is no DRAM maker m8...thats why i am still advising caution.Quote:
Originally posted by apostglen46
Bigtoe you are right it wil take a lot hours to produce many BH5/6 RAMS but why the heck hipro5 shouldn't try it.........
He is the best at what he does after all......
No offence again my friend.....
BH-5/6 isn't produced anymore but is the best ram and hipro is right now the only way we can get those RAMS
If he spends $6 per IC thats $6k for 1000 pieces or $72k for all 12k pieces, they may be cheaper, or they may be more expensive...i know one thing for an indevidual its a lot of cash to put on the line if the yield on the IC's is cr@p.
If you can get it done then I say SWEET!
But personally I think your going in over your head. I would guess that all the testing equipment would cost you a boat load of cash and finding someone to make and design RAM PCB's would cost a lot too. But as I said if you can do it you'll prove yet again your one cool dude :D
Steve
For start(not to through my money away) I'll get about 1000 piecies(minimum order) and test them....IF the chips proved to be good , and I can't find a good PCB to back them up , I'll design my own PCB IF chips worth it.......;)Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
If you can get it done then I say SWEET!
But personally I think your going in over your head. I would guess that all the testing equipment would cost you a boat load of cash and finding someone to make and design RAM PCB's would cost a lot too. But as I said if you can do it you'll prove yet again your one cool dude :D
Steve
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture1_png.png
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture3_png.png
This one was designed in year 2001.......It would feed a Peltier so as to cool down the CPU automaticaly when needed(full load - idle).......This is the front panel(control panel) of a 5.25 bay... It reads three individual temperatures - automaticaly controls the CPU's Peltier- alarms them(temperatures) in high reading - shuts down the PC automaticaly in high temp reading - e.t.c. ......The main cirquit is in the 5.25 bay.....It supposed to hit the market BUT time changes everything.......CPU start clocking higher , MORE wattage needed and I thought (and I did well) that it ain't worth it anymore.......Extreme freezing need to be done......Does this reminds you anything???.......Yes ........Thermaltake.......They did it a year ago .......Two years AFTER my thoughts......But now it's too late to use such a cirquit.... :D
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture2_jpg.jpg
Is anyone interested of a hipro5's RAM PCB??? :D
HOOOOOOOOLLLY BANANA...
drooling already after seeing this..
:slapass: <--- thermaltake..
:D Just wait till you see my new project in about three weeks from now ......Just to be ready......You'll get suprised and NOT only you....That's for sure...... :DQuote:
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
HOOOOOOOOLLLY BANANA...
drooling already after seeing this..
:slapass: <--- thermaltake..
I stand by my statement that if these chips are decent... HiPro is the man to get this "job" done!!! :D
i whole heartedly agreeQuote:
Originally posted by Jeff
I stand by my statement that if these chips are decent... HiPro is the man to get this "job" done!!! :D
Thanks guys....... :D :toast:
Of course he is, some of us are just advising caution ;)
Ey, we're all cheering for Hipro here. If he pulls this off, we'll truly be some of the most elite overclockers on the planet with special CUSTOM low latency RAM.
I've got my fingers crossed for ya Hipro, I await results :D
^ Ditto
This should be really interesting :D
Good luck hipro ! :toast:
i got in this thread late, as i have been doing research on my bh-5 mushkin and my a64 setup for compatibility issues... still ahvent found an answer to that. but i would deffinatly be interested in a few sticks, or maybe just picking up some chips from you to play with. as i have some bh-6 sticks laying around somewhere that i lost a few chips on. however one thing that interested me is the peltier device. would be nice to hook up to a custom P-C system. got any prototypes i caould try:) after looking at the pcb designt you got there i deffinatly think you got a good chance to come out with a few good sticks if not more. heck with the design skills i seen so far you might be able to design a test set to test the chips for a certian freq. at a certian voltage. you got my mind a wondering now.
HECK yeah!!! :slobber: :toast: :slobber: You know what would be even sweeter? Your PCBs & ICs with an OCZ-type power filter setup. I'm NOT suggesting any kind of piracy or copyright infringement, just sayin' that it'd be a shame to have this future RAM, and not have an OCZ booster. :cool: :DQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
Is anyone interested of a hipro5's RAM PCB??? :D
:thumbsup: way to go Hipro5.... congrats
keep it coming :thumbsup:
if this works i have a new hero...
I am sure about the results my friend.
Good luck and hope soon to test the sticks:)
Thank you guys......I'll do my best..... :) :toast:
Someone should make a sticky thread for a sign-up sheet/waiting list/pre-order, so members here can write down what they would want and how many etc., so hipro5 would have an idea of a size of his first order would be.
phew, finnaly got to the end. i was reading from the beggining and the pages grew as i read! but yeah i agree this could be hard but can be done if effort is there.
hipro I wish you the best of luck.
I agree with Tony that there is a lot more than most anyone here know's actually goes into dram production, but hopefully hipro won't lose his shirt!;)
Here's to you hipro :toast:
I want a 1Gb Hypro5 Stick, that will be the best ones :toast:
Wow, this could turn out to be really awesome...I'd be in for getting a 2x512 from ya if it ever becomes available to me.
I you pull this off, you'll be sending sticks to sweden, I promise!
Good Luck hipro5, I don't know if you will need it or not...
I would think it would be cool if you just make your own DDR-RAM that works, and I get the impression that you know what you're doing, but I ain't an ram developer :)
I've got some sales/markeing expertise that could be put to good use ;)
Good luck w/ the proect hipro
No no we don't dare let hipro market these outside of XS until we've all got ours. Then we market it to other oc friendly boards.
Definately not FM, though. Futuremark has too many newbs that have no idea what they're doing.
what's the best way to solder chips with such high density pins to a pcb?
Hot air gun?
I've never seen such a device before and I would like to :D
I already tought about a hot air gun to strip paint. But I don't know how much heat those chips can stand for a certain period.
I tought that most manufacturors send their modules trough some kind of oven. could be wrong though.
Thank you guys....... :toast: :D
:DQuote:
Originally posted by Kalway
No no we don't dare let hipro market these outside of XS until we've all got ours. Then we market it to other oc friendly boards.
Definately not FM, though. Futuremark has too many newbs that have no idea what they're doing.
Only with hot air gun.......No other way..... ;)Quote:
Originally posted by ns_ripper
what's the best way to solder chips with such high density pins to a pcb?
Hot air gun?
I've never seen such a device before and I would like to :D
I already tought about a hot air gun to strip paint. But I don't know how much heat those chips can stand for a certain period.
I tought that most manufacturors send their modules trough some kind of oven. could be wrong though.
Good luck Hipro!!
I see the headlines a year from now... "Cosair's market share plummets, HiPro is taking over" LOL
I don't know if you plan to put any cooling on them, but if you please use individual heatsinks or some QUALITY spreaders... it would be a market first! :)
All the best dude, it's good to see someonen with so much drive
Ill take 2x 512mb bh-5 sticks if you can ship them here down under....
Damn man your gonna be a legend in my mind if you can get this.
Hipro , i wonder if you can transform my sticks of 256mo pc2100 ECC micron Tech double sided, to 512mo pc3200 ECC BH5.
My FX51 and me were very happy ;)
Good luck Hipro ;)
Hipro you are one crazy crazy man
;)
This thread is winning a GOLD MEDAL.....:D
Lets go HIPRO5 ....
Lets DO IT and ALL 12 GODs are with your SIDE.....:banana: :toast:
/me waits patiently for a verdict. :D
What a project! Respect!
Hipro, if you are going to sell them all over the world, i'll buy 2x256!!!
Hipro rulez! :worship:
greetz S. t. H.
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