Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
heh anyone ever remove the HeatSpreader off a AMD64? Its gona be like either that or give it a lapping.
http://www.home.no/smy/dataromme/a64...%20HS%20av.JPG
Yes i have
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Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
heh anyone ever remove the HeatSpreader off a AMD64? Its gona be like either that or give it a lapping.
http://www.home.no/smy/dataromme/a64...%20HS%20av.JPG
Yes i have
man I can't believe I missed this thread... I'll have to keep my eyes peeled. :D
Fosco, was it tough? was there any epoxy on the die holding it to the HS? So just cut the sides and use the blade to pop it off from the corners? Did it pop off easy.. or did you have to pre heat or cool it first?
I think you'll find ocz pc3700EB to be much much better than pc4200 b/c latencies are much much much better and will give alot better performance on the A64 setup.Quote:
Originally posted by joni
I don't want to run at HTT350, i want to run htt at 277 my mem's at 233 with my cpu at 2511Mhz (x9), it's better then HTT 251 mem's@209 and cpu at 2509MHz, got it;)
Edit: beside that, i was thinking of buying some PC4200 memory so i could easily hit high oc with 1:1 ratio :)
And to my knowledge and limited testing ram dividers don't hurt performance provided you can make up the difference in other places. IE running 220ram at 220fsb at 1:1 will not be faster than running say 265-270fsb at PC2700 setting provided cpu is similar in mhz. We have discussed this before, A64 has no true "synch" with fsb as mem controller is on die.
Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
Fosco, was it tough? was there any epoxy on the die holding it to the HS? So just cut the sides and use the blade to pop it off from the corners? Did it pop off easy.. or did you have to pre heat or cool it first?
As easy as intel IHS removing.. I cut all the corners first, and then all the sides and it went off prity easy.
No preheat or cooling.
Fosco
Ok thanks.. heh dont know if i'm that desperate atm yet to void the warrenty.
Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
Ok thanks.. heh dont know if i'm that desperate atm yet to void the warrenty.
Np ;)
I have heard about that memory:), buying 2x512MB won't be cheap. 1st i have to know if i will be able to run 1:1 at 260MHz without the issue of reboots at that HTT :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by JNav89GT
I think you'll find ocz pc3700EB to be much much better than pc4200 b/c latencies are much much much better and will give alot better performance on the A64 setup.
otherwise why will i spend that amount of money to run it at 209MHz (5:6)
well I'd be farily comfortable betting you could hit 250-260 given enough voltage, might need vdimm mod to do it. But if you run 240fsb at tight timings I think you'd otherwise need 285-290 or more to make up for it at those slack timings on that other ram.Quote:
Originally posted by joni
I have heard about that memory:), buying 2x512MB won't be cheap. 1st i have to know if i will be able to run 1:1 at 260MHz without the issue of reboots at that HTT :rolleyes:
otherwise why will i spend that amount of money to run it at 209MHz (5:6)
WHOOOOOO HHOOOO!!
Yeah baba yeah!
I was like well.. i always thought that the HS was never making good contact with the CPU die since my temos never really dropped much when i origonaly went water cooling with this setup.. so that made up my mind to go for it and rip that damn heatspreader off! That plus heh.. ya only live once so go for it!
I got it off no prob! Thanks man!
heh i'll take picks and post it up.
Here she is!
My super early 3400+ AMD64
ADA3400AEP5AP
AAALC 0337MPM
:D
cool... that heat spreader looks like it is copper...
Nice job! Let us know if that helps reducing your temp.Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
Here she is!
My super early 3400+ AMD64
ADA3400AEP5AP
AAALC 0337MPM
:D
heh.. well i wish i could tell ya. It seems its much hotter now.. I had probs getting windows reinstalled since the registry got hosed last night.. TOok about 6 attempts to get it runing after i put the cpu back to default just to run the voltage low enough to stablize her.. I'm thinking its my watercooling thats going.. The pump that is.. Its making noises like a fan that rubbin a wire.. So i guess its going out and making the cpu run hotter the past 2 days. Prob even adding heat to it.
i dont see how it would get hotter after removing the HS.. Sucks though that i cant even install a heatsink on this now if the pump goes before i can find a new one.. Anyone know of a great 300+ pump? I have a Hydor 30 now.. Ran fine for about 9 months. :(
Get a Blueline...same as Iwaki, but half the price and actually runs quieter. Search in google for the Blueline HD20.
heh would be nice but since its like 9" x4"x4" i dont think i can squeese it in! :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by EnJoY
Get a Blueline...same as Iwaki, but half the price and actually runs quieter. Search in google for the Blueline HD20.
Anything smaller?
i want to get one of these boards cuase my 8rda3+ is giving me :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: but i dont like the idea of having to use clockgen
is there any bioses which have good voltage ranges? and i have adata pc4000 2x512mb, the reason i need a new mobo (incompatible). im probly getting a nc 3000+, they have the 10x multi so im gonna get 2500mhz as long as the board dont bork. any recomendations? and i think ill get a 948u if i can find one here in australia, i can only fid the 8kda3+, but i want the j
The one who dont wanna pull the HS of the chipset for reading the revision.
NVIDIA System utility gives the right revision.
ive got my 3400+ NC
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_3400/3400_stock.PNG
Vcore in bios set on 1.55v
My multimeter read 1.44v on the mosfets... :confused:
Has someone has the same prob, (VOLT DROPS on de 8KDAJ)
2500MHz @1.44v is very very good if the mosfets don't lie....
what's the difference bethween
Epox EP-8KDA3+ nForce3 Socket 754
ArtNr.: 13164
Sockel/Slot: Sockel-754
AMD 64 bis: 3500 +
Chipsatz: nVidia nForce3 250Gb AGPset
Frontsidebus: 800 MHz
Systemspeicher: PC-400 DDRAM
maximaler Speicher: 3000 MB
Anzahl der RAM-Steckplätze: 3x 154.66
EUR
and
Epox EP-8KDA3J nForce3 Socket 754
ArtNr.: 13672
Sockel/Slot: Sockel-754
AMD 64 bis: 3500 +
Chipsatz: nVidia nForce3 250Gb AGPset
Frontsidebus: 800 MHz
Systemspeicher: PC-400 DDRAM
maximaler Speicher: 3000 MB
Anzahl der RAM-Steckplätze: 3x
hmm, got a new proc today:
3200+ nc 0416 rpmw AX core.
Now I'm experiencing this stupid vcor bug too, while I never had troubles with it with my C0 proc. What is making this difference??
@Spider, I thought the J didn't have the 250Gb just the nf3-250 chipset. Thats without the nvraid en firewall.
I've been having that same prob but on my C0 cpu.. I havent noticed it though using the offical 5-14 bios.. Did you flah your bios to somehting newer?Quote:
Originally posted by YoupY
hmm, got a new proc today:
3200+ nc 0416 rpmw AX core.
Now I'm experiencing this stupid vcor bug too, while I never had troubles with it with my C0 proc. What is making this difference??
@Spider, I thought the J didn't have the 250Gb just the nf3-250 chipset. Thats without the nvraid en firewall.
yep, I'm using the 7-9 now,
let's see what happens when I flash back to 5-14
Update:
5-14 makes no difference here.
under load I got 1.45 (cpu-z) 1.48 on the mosfets
idle I get 1.43 (cpu-z) 1.45 on the mosfets
This while Vcore is set to 1.55 in the bios and I have the mods on which with the same settings gave me 1.6 on my other proc
Its called cold boot it a few times and it should go back to normal.. Just dont go upping that vr more or your gona get a rude awakening when the board desides to pump out the right voltage.
Tried booting a few times but that didn't help.
It was clearing the CMOS that did the trick.
For having a stable Vcore you'll have to flash to 5-14 and clear cmos
heh i was going to suggest that but i thought ya might already have. :)
Wow, talk about a coincidence. Whats the max you have got that chip to? Cause I just opened my package and I got a 0416RPMW also.Quote:
Originally posted by YoupY
Tried booting a few times but that didn't help.
It was clearing the CMOS that did the trick.
For having a stable Vcore you'll have to flash to 5-14 and clear cmos
Sooo 5.14 it is?? thats the best bios till now??
im getting very strange temp reading with this board! about 35idle and 50+ Load...
My proc is doing about 2500 Mhz. Testing I did with prime on and then the corevoltages goes from 1.6V to 1.7V :( (measured with multimeter), So I'm exactly sure how it performs.Quote:
Originally posted by ColdFlare
Wow, talk about a coincidence. Whats the max you have got that chip to? Cause I just opened my package and I got a 0416RPMW also.
I've seen shots from Gamer. He has a 0417RMPW which does 2900 Mhz pifast I believe. I'll have to sand the chipset today or tomorrow (major bad contact now) and the this baby is going to get prommy-ed :D
Doesnt sound too promising, i'm about to put mine in. Must be those RPMWs I have 2 RPMWs, nc and ch they are poor performers.Quote:
Originally posted by YoupY
My proc is doing about 2500 Mhz. Testing I did with prime on and then the corevoltages goes from 1.6V to 1.7V :( (measured with multimeter), So I'm exactly sure how it performs.
I've seen shots from Gamer. He has a 0417RMPW which does 2900 Mhz pifast I believe. I'll have to sand the chipset today or tomorrow (major bad contact now) and the this baby is going to get prommy-ed :D
Well my CPU needed 0.1 more voltage to do about the same it did on another board so maybe you need to take a reading from the board and see what the real voltage is.. Maybe its really not 1.7v.
if u guys hadnt seen, someone in the 8KDA3+ mods thread in the mobo mods forum got a 3200+ mobile (not DTR) to work in his 8KDA3+!!!!
This seems like an interesting board, may have to pick one up to go with my 2800+
i bought 2x512MB of ocz pc3700eb, before that i had kingston pc3700 (1x512). with the two dimms my cpu voltage has drop compared with the voltage i had with only 1 dimm of memory.
in fact my voltages sucks a lot.
v-dimm 2,768v (2,8 in bios)
cpu +-1,600v with USDM and +-1,637 on cpuz (1,7 in bios) :(
update: in the bios the voltage readings of the cpu are about 1,65v (stable). how do i know wich ones are correct :confused:
Smokey, the starter of that thread, is doing very well with this board. He's currently holding the nr1 pifast position in the netherlands with this board, but that won't last long anymore....Quote:
Originally posted by blinky
if u guys hadnt seen, someone in the 8KDA3+ mods thread in the mobo mods forum got a 3200+ mobile (not DTR) to work in his 8KDA3+!!!!
I've sanded my chipset today for better contact and put sinks and fans everywhere the fets got hot and put my prommy on my new cpu.
Prime crashes at 2806 Mhz...
Linky ? :)Quote:
Originally posted by blinky
if u guys hadnt seen, someone in the 8KDA3+ mods thread in the mobo mods forum got a 3200+ mobile (not DTR) to work in his 8KDA3+!!!!
With the 5-14 bios I'm still having some Vcore issues. This is in combination with the mods.
As said before, I haven't touched my pots since I've got a new proc. The mod was set to overvolt 0.05V. At 1.55 in the bios I'm getting about 1.6 Idle which gets upto 1.7V under load.
When I set the Vcore to 1.60 in the bios I was getting 1.68 in windows idle and 1.83V under load. Voltage seemed to fluctuate also more then when I set it to 1.55, and the fluctuations were higher. Under load that is....
All voltage values measured with the UDSM tool.
So I'm a bit worried that this could be a new cpu killer. Probally it's best te keep Vcore to default in the bios and only use the mods, but I'll have to do some more testing on this....
Quote:
Originally posted by LilGator
Linky ? :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...510#post498510
:)
There is a new bios out from EPOX.
You can down it from you MAGIC BIOS in windows.
KDA34716.BIN (07/16)
BIOS FILE DATE:
07/16/2004
BIOS Part No:
6A61CPAA
Boot Title:
07/16/2004 For nForce3 250GB Chipset
BIOS Checksum:
5700 (h)
Workaround :
1.Patch USB 2.0 storage hangs at Post when enable USB KB/storage support.
2.Support MAC address fast flash ROM¡]PMC PM49FL004T / SST 49LF004B¡^.
3.Show correct information at summary for SATA HDD.
4.Solve working failure issue of ACPI shutdown temperature.
Hope this will fix all bugs :)
try it now.
kakaroto
Thank you for posting your finding....
I had a problem with my ps2 keyboard port not working, needless to say the board is out on rma, hopefully there are good things to come from this bios good luck all!
*(crossing fingers)
Cool. :up: Just updated the first post with this additional BIOS...
Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Just thought I'd start a thread that we can put all the BIOSes in... ;)
[edit]Crap... BIOSes are too big to attach... hmmm...[/edit]
Ok... let's try this... you can get them here if you want...
http://www.myfavoritehacker.com/software/8KDA/
[edit2]
Official BIOS releases:
kda34301.zip (March 1, 2004)
kda34505.zip (May 5, 2004)
KDA34709.zip (July 9th, 2004)
KDA34716.zip (July 16th, 2004) <<==NEWEST BIOS
Beta BIOS releases:
kda34615.zip (June 15, 2004)
kda34624.zip (June 24, 2004)
kda34630.zip (June 30, 2004)
The beta BIOSes were mostly taken from the AOA forums. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! ;)
[/edit2]
Jeff, check PM please. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Cool. :up: Just updated the first post with this additional BIOS...
Any news on the Vcore bug with the latest bios yet ??
my findings:
This bios is the best so far.
But still the low voltage issue is there... there is a solution and its very simple.
If you set 1.50v (you want stock) then the Vcore drops to 1.4v and thats to low, effect = System fail.
But if you set standard 1.6v in the bios, the vcore will drop to 1.52v.
Problem solved.
People with a voltmodded board can continue with the pots.
heh the 5-14 bios atleast over volts for me by 0.05. I dont need anymore then 1.75v.
Can anyone overclock higher with the new bios? Get any mults lower then 8 to work?
the new bios works fine i thought yesterday.
I use the 07/16 bios.
When i set 1.6V in the bios, the voltage rise to 1.72v. ..thats oke.
But when i coldboot it reach a bizar 1.9v!! :(
Going to the bios and press F10 will change the Vcore to the "normal" 1.72v.
Why EPOX why!!!
Anyways...
I can run prime95 for over a hour and 8M superPI but sometimes when i do something else it crapt out, BSOD (IRQ_not less bla bla)
Damnz, i dont follow it anymore.
I think it has to do with the Memory voltages or something, maybe a bios bug or a mobo issue.
What are your experience? have someone the same probs i have??
thnx
I get a BSOD with that message all the time. If you figure it out, let me know.Quote:
Originally posted by kakaroto
the new bios works fine i thought yesterday.
I use the 07/16 bios.
When i set 1.6V in the bios, the voltage rise to 1.72v. ..thats oke.
But when i coldboot it reach a bizar 1.9v!! :(
Going to the bios and press F10 will change the Vcore to the "normal" 1.72v.
Why EPOX why!!!
Anyways...
I can run prime95 for over a hour and 8M superPI but sometimes when i do something else it crapt out, BSOD (IRQ_not less bla bla)
Damnz, i dont follow it anymore.
I think it has to do with the Memory voltages or something, maybe a bios bug or a mobo issue.
What are your experience? have someone the same probs i have??
thnx
Wow, 7/16 BIOS ROCKS, I no longer have the undervolt bug! At least my Vcore stays at a range of v1.520-v1.600 when I set @ v1.550 in BIOS. woohoo.
Its the board dude... nothing to do about it.Quote:
Originally posted by ColdFlare
I get a BSOD with that message all the time. If you figure it out, let me know.
Hopefully a bios issue, but have no faith in it anymore.
Can you explain this? 4 hours prime95, and then BSOD...i can not...
Just spoke with Smokey, who does some beta testing for Epox. There familiar with the Vcore bug and are working on it :D
Hopefuly the fix this sometime soon
I've been getting that for a while as well. I prime for a while, decide I want to check my email, and boom BSOD then blank screen. Hard disk stops spinning, it posts, finds my HDD and it starts spinning again and it boots up.. Whats going on? Why do I always get stuck with the bad stuff. I swear NewEgg is sending me refurbished stuff. My Clawhammer came in a retail box with tape holding it.Quote:
Originally posted by kakaroto
Its the board dude... nothing to do about it.
Hopefully a bios issue, but have no faith in it anymore.
Can you explain this? 4 hours prime95, and then BSOD...i can not...
WIred the mobo up today and put a active hsf on it. I checked the chipset revision and it is indeed a2
Also, my vcore is overvolted at stock about.5 but it does not fluctuate....maybe like 1.59-1.58v
It's pretty stable now here too. I flashed with 5-14 and left the voltage to default in the bios and am using the VR only to adjust the core voltage.
USDM is giving me a little fluctuation, but only a small step 0.016V sometimes 2 of those steps. But I measured with my multimeter and got only differences of 0.002V.
The difference between idle and load is bigger though. Could also be a nice feature, but then we'll have to know how much it goes up. I don't like it if I don't know how much my proc is gonna get under load.
There's a new version of UDSM available btw, It should work with negative temps, but I can't get it to work :(
the latest usdm sucks :(
Epox and the voltage issues :(
i'm also getting reboots, and i can't understand why????:(
I dont know.. Maybe you guys are overclocking too high?
No probs whats so ever with the 5-14 bios.
Might be the chipset voltage and heat.
Is anyone using this board with a Tagan 480W PSU ?
getting kind of tired of this board.. I can prime, play, bench for hours and stil i get random bsod' s and sometimes colsboots not work, i have to restart.. :/
and btw theres no way for 300htt here, anything over ~290 hangs up.. and guess what.. 2x ldt doesnt work. and well, vcore jumps pretty good :rolleyes:
With bios 15-4 I get better results with 4 x HTT. with 3x HTT I could pifast upto 287 x 10. With 4x PiFast ran with 289 x 10. Strange....
http://members.home.nl/youpy/8kda3+_vcore.jpg
Dunno what exacty causes the spikes in idle mode, but loaded I get more spikes. First I tried running prime, but that wasn't giving me enough cpu load (less the 50%) Super Pi worked better for testing vcore with 100% cpu load...
I can't get the VCORE to stop undervolting nomatter what BIOS I use. Sure the "BIOS" and other software says the VCORE is fine, but my multimeter disagrees. At "1.7V" in the BIOS, depending on the BIOS, I'm getting anywhere from 1.31 - 1.45V on the multimeter idle, 1.28 - 1.3V under load.
WTH?
Is your processor hot? You might be measuring it at the wrong place.Quote:
Originally posted by aldamon
I can't get the VCORE to stop undervolting nomatter what BIOS I use. Sure the "BIOS" and other software says the VCORE is fine, but my multimeter disagrees. At "1.7V" in the BIOS, depending on the BIOS, I'm getting anywhere from 1.31 - 1.45V on the multimeter idle, 1.28 - 1.3V under load.
WTH?
that's interesting...Quote:
Originally posted by aldamon
I can't get the VCORE to stop undervolting nomatter what BIOS I use. Sure the "BIOS" and other software says the VCORE is fine, but my multimeter disagrees. At "1.7V" in the BIOS, depending on the BIOS, I'm getting anywhere from 1.31 - 1.45V on the multimeter idle, 1.28 - 1.3V under load.
WTH?
i was having the same problem too...
do you have vcore mod in place?
i noticed mine dropped like yours to 1.4X when the vcore mod accidently fell off..
tried another bios and same result..
finally just redid the vcore mod w/o adjusting pots and everything was fine again...
I haven't modded anything. There are two coils above the power connector. I'm measuring at the top coil. Is there a better spot?
Flashing to 14-5 and clearing CMOS after that did the trick for me.
So it will probally do it for you too ;)
I'm on that BIOS right now and I'm still stuck. I'll flash it again. At what point do I clear the CMOS? Do I load the Optimized Defaults before or after I clear the CMOS?
Flash the bios first,
reboot your pc and shut it down
switch off power, remove the battery and place the jumper in the clear position....
reinstall battery and place the jumper back and boot your pc.
That did it for me ;)
Nope :( Didn't work. Maybe I'm measuring VCORE wrong? I can't see how I could be doing it wrong, but it's possible.
Some mosfets give different readings :shrug:
do you or anyone know which mosfet to measure to read the vcore voltage?Quote:
Originally posted by LilGator
Some mosfets give different readings :shrug:
Well, got mine up and running a couple of days ago; and I must say that I am pretty happy with this board. I haven't had a single cold-boot problem since I got it. The only problem I've noticed so far is the vcore fluctuation, but it isn't really that bad, and it only fluctuates up, not down. Still running the shipped bios though. Running 250x10 atm, with mem 1:1. Haven't tested the FSB much further, but it seems like the ram still wants to go a bit more lol. This is my first a64 rig, so I need some more thinkering time with it ;)
Anyway, one question: Why aren't there 12v and 3.3v sensors on this board? Theres nothing in the bios, but sandra found something, and reported back 10.5v on the 12v rail :P Measured with a multimeter, which said 12.05, which seems right.
Well, I'm starting to think that the coils are not the correct place to measure VCORE. I looked at the VCORE mod for this board and started taking measurements at the various pins. The first pin in the upper left hand corner with the board installed (1? 2?) shows the proper voltage as shown in the BIOS. It goes up and down when I change the BIOS, so that's the pin. I don't know where else on the board I can check the VCORE, but I'm not going to use the coils anymore. They're obviously not correct for my board.
Uhm, another question: What is that feature called "system performance" under the power bios settings? It can be set to Normal or fast. WTF is that?
Also, how much chipset voltage is "healthy" for these boards?
Hi @ all.
First I want to excuse me for my bad english (I'm swiss).
I've a quite big problem with my Epox Epox 8KDA3+
I've bought a new system:
- Epox 8KDA3+
- A64 3200+ Clawhammer c0
- 1024MB (2x 512MB) DIMM DDR PC400 CL2 KINGSTON HyperX (KHX3200AK2/1G)
- be quiet! Blackline 450 Watt 2 fans
- Plextor 712A
- SEAGATE Barracuda Serial ATA V ST3160023AS 160.0GB 7200Rpm 8MB SATA/150
- case with 6 fans
- Zalman CNPS 7000-ALCU
- Powercolor x800 pro vivo
I would also have a Creative Audigy 2 ZS, but it isn't in the pc yet.
My problem:
Sometimes the just shuts down. Sometimes after 5 minutes, sometimes after 300 minutes. It's like someone would remove the power plug. I've I remember right, some of you have had (or still have) the same problem, am I right? But strange about my problem is that that doesn't happens during im in a game. For example: Yesterday I played for 1 1/2 hours Far Cry (with the highest detail grade, without problems). Then I had to go. So I started the demo mode in far cry, to test, if it will shutdown. But, surprise, when I came back after about 4 hours the pc was still running. I wanted to get back in to the game, to continue. But, surprise again, the pc shutted down exactly when I pressed the "Back to Game" button. After that the pc didn't even got up to the Windows! I had to wait about 15-20 minutes and then it runned again. I try to fix this problem since last friday, when i started the pc the first time. And yesterday night the pc already shutted in the Bios (!!!) after 5 Minutes.
I've tried out all available Bios. Atm its the one from the 16th July.
I've also tried out, all ram slots, or just 1 ram. Didn't helped.
I've the newest nForce3 driver. Cat 4.7.
Can you help me?
Best regards Tscherny
edit: I forgot ti ask: Why do the last two bios versions (7.9; 7.16) not support the Coll'n'Quiet option. Or is it automaticly disabled?
just got an idea! maybe the chipset gets o hot and unstable with that little stock cooler?
Can some one please upload the 5/14 bios? cant find!
http://www.epox.de/techsupp/downloads_anzeige.asp
Press the disk on the right.
it's interesting....
i've had that weird shutdown problem 2 times now... once while browsing and once after playing a game but i have not experienced the problem since going back to the 5/5 bios and getting a new chip
My pc now also shuts down during playing a game.
I called Epox, and they said that it is most probabely a ram defect.
i had 2 reboots until now.
the first one i really don't know why it happen the second one i think it was because the newest version of USDM. after i remove it and installed the versin that came with the board, it never happen again.
i use the 0714 bios and today i made a clear cmos to see if the voltages would get better and i notice that i've lost de cool'n'quite opcion that i had before. im sure it is disabled cause i'm getting the same oc that i had before.
Cool and Quiet options are removed from the newer bios. Guess epox couldnt get it to work.Quote:
Originally posted by joni
i had 2 reboots until now.
the first one i really don't know why it happen the second one i think it was because the newest version of USDM. after i remove it and installed the versin that came with the board, it never happen again.
i use the 0714 bios and today i made a clear cmos to see if the voltages would get better and i notice that i've lost de cool'n'quite opcion that i had before. im sure it is disabled cause i'm getting the same oc that i had before.
Here ya go 5-14 biosQuote:
Originally posted by malte
Can some one please upload the 5/14 bios? cant find!
Got that right off the usa epox site... no worries, took me forever to find it to back when. :rolleyes:
Anyone know if this board supports DTR's?
edit: Jeff if i remember right you couldnt get your 3200 dtr to work right with the 8kda3+. Did you manage to resolve it?
I ended up sending it back to NewEgg.com. I was honest about it and they ended up waving the restocking fee since they saw that I already ordered a desktop chip(that and I have 17 pages of orders dating back 4 years). ;)
only 17 pages? lol...Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
I ended up sending it back to NewEgg.com. I was honest about it and they ended up waving the restocking fee since they saw that I already ordered a desktop chip(that and I have 17 pages of orders dating back 4 years). ;)
mines about 5 hahaha...
anyway...
Quote:
Originally posted by YoupY
Just spoke with Smokey, who does some beta testing for Epox. There familiar with the Vcore bug and are working on it :D
Hopefuly the fix this sometime soon
:toast:
Did anyone tried OCZ V-Boost with this board???
I toasted a voltage regulator on my J with only 3.2v. Don't know if there was something else going on or what since via a variable resistor I had it running up to 3.5v... 3.4v 24/7. :shrug:
I may wait for the DFI offering now or I may get another J to hold me over. Haven't made up my mind yet. ;)
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Originally posted by k|ngp|n
Here is what cpuz says.....I guess only way of knowing is to take off chipset hs?
http://pic8.picturetrail.com/VOL256/...6/60437849.jpg
in wcpuid i got this information:
http://jonirod.no.sapo.pt/chipset.JPG
in one place it says A1 and in the other it says A2 :confused:
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Originally posted by Jeff
I toasted a voltage regulator on my J with only 3.2v. Don't know if there was something else going on or what since via a variable resistor I had it running up to 3.5v... 3.4v 24/7. :shrug:
I may wait for the DFI offering now or I may get another J to hold me over. Haven't made up my mind yet. ;)
Sorry to hear :(
How about trying the Gigabyte nf30250 board...
Epox has some serious issues with there voltages on this board. That's for sure. I dunno why, but I cannot set Vcore in the bios over 1.85. If I go higher some OVP kicks in when starting Windows.
I believed this ovp was kicking in @ 2V, but I'm not sure. Is there any mod for it out yet, cause my proc needs some more juice...
How did you go past 1.7V in the BIOS?Quote:
Originally posted by YoupY
Sorry to hear :(
How about trying the Gigabyte nf30250 board...
Epox has some serious issues with there voltages on this board. That's for sure. I dunno why, but I cannot set Vcore in the bios over 1.85. If I go higher some OVP kicks in when starting Windows.
I believed this ovp was kicking in @ 2V, but I'm not sure. Is there any mod for it out yet, cause my proc needs some more juice...
newer beta bios has that option but sometimes it wont show up... sometimes you only see up to 1.7v other times it will show all the options up to 1.85v... Its flaky. Better off just using the vcore mod and leaving the vcore to auto or 1.5v in the bios and adjusting it with the vr.
Hmm, I'm read back what I typed and I see it can be interpreted in 2 ways.
What I mean is I adjust the pot in the bios at the pc healt screen where I can monitor my vcore. When I get it over 1.85V I can't get windows to start anymore due to OVP.
AFAIK there isn't a bios which has the 1.85V option in the bios. Believe there was one with 1.8 as max core voltage.
This was done with bios 7-16 btw, which seems to be better for tweaking for me.
One thing though. Do not set the mem timings to auto, but adjust them manual. This seems te get me a slightly higher HTT. I'm also getting more cpu mhz with the performance option enabled...
Hope this clears things up :D
here some new bios for the EPOX 8KDA KDA34728.ZIP
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NIce, thx now some of you brave souls please report in, so far so good I had to clear cmos battery because I got the undervoltage but now the voltages are stabilzed every thing is smooth sailing.
No differences in performance for me as of yet ?
All the options are the same as bios 7-16 as far as I've seen now. Too bad there isn't a changelog to go with it
Vcore issue looks good. With my pot to maximum resistance I'm getting voltages between 1.520 and 1.552 Idle
@ Load it's going up to 1.584.
Let's do some benching now to see how it performs :D
Hmm this bios is acting very strange...
I looks like Epox partialy fixed the vcore bug. First time I booted and changed some settings in the bios I did get the voltages form my previous post.
Then I set the bios to my last used tweaking settings and the Vcore bug appeard again :(.
Last time I got a spontanious reboot my voltages suddenly were back to normal (without the vcore bug drop), causing the OVP to kick in :(
I also experienced some random reboots in windows and hangs during post. Bioscode 29. Also I couln't hit my last pifast settings of 291 x 10 sync. Mem seems to clock not quite als well as with the 7-16 or 5-14 biosses. When I get to 289 my system hangs, while I could go higher on other biosses with the same voltages and A64 tweaker settings.
Also the a64 tweaker devider of 183 didn't work for me anymore, setting it to that value caused a freeze. while with the 7-16 bios I could set this devider, but cpu-z didn't recognize it so I'm not exactly worked then, but with the 7-16 I could at least set it.
Also tried changing the multi with clockgen, but I still get a system freeze. And the pci still goes up when I set the HTT to 200 and I'm using clockgen to tweak.
So I'm not very happy with the work epox did...
Does anyone have other experiences with this bios??
i got a 8kda3j and only get 2,72vdimm instead of 2,8v... anyone out there with the same problem ?
which bios does fix this $hit ?
Whit 7-16 bios i colud run 348htt.. but whit 7-28 bios i cant nearley go over 300htt.
Has anyone been able to go over 350htt whit this board?
sorry fore mye bad english.
Fosco
Change system performace to normal from fastest.. Putting it to fastest will make your vdimm run .1v lower.Quote:
Originally posted by TM30
i got a 8kda3j and only get 2,72vdimm instead of 2,8v... anyone out there with the same problem ?
which bios does fix this $hit ?
YoupY.. I had to put the HTT to 201 to get the PCI lock to take.. just encause ya didnt notice.
I know, I was just testing if they fixed in the new beta ;)Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
Change system performace to normal from fastest.. Putting it to fastest will make your vdimm run .1v lower.
YoupY.. I had to put the HTT to 201 to get the PCI lock to take.. just encause ya didnt notice.