I might be the 59th person to say this but truely sad news. Ive deicided to go to water-cooling before this and wonder what my mach 2 would fetch later on. HEHEH!!
:banana:
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I might be the 59th person to say this but truely sad news. Ive deicided to go to water-cooling before this and wonder what my mach 2 would fetch later on. HEHEH!!
:banana:
:( sad news
but nventiv unit will never been obsolete if you have imagination ;)
i've run my mach 1 on A64 long time before nventiv start to sell A64 fitting....and i've never buy a a64 fitting.....never needed one!!! ;)
http://sites.rapidus.net/maxbleau/A6...ommy%20fix.JPG
LOL you regasses yet ? Guess my mach2 with 1x P4 kit and 2x AMD64/FX kits will be enough (crosses fingers it never breaks down)Quote:
Originally posted by Ragnarok
that's just dirty, trying to cashing in like that..
oh well, guess S754/S939/S940 will last a while, so no need to worry about CPU kits in the immediate future..
now's the perfect time to void ur warranties and regas with R404A :D
Thats not good business, as nventiv have shown. Good business is high turnover, thus increased profit. IF the price rises, sales drop and GM falls, basic business, if you want to stay afloat that is.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
I never said Asetek will jack up prices....although they may. The independent dealers will JACK UP the price....
Like I said, prepare for $1000 LS units...
Now more than ever Asetek can put a sticker on an LS and put a better "air drier" on it or something and call it an LS-XS for like $1200, now that GT i no more... it's simple Business 101, supply and demand.
C
As far as I know Asetek control the retail price and will stop resellers from increasing prices. I will be just as disappointed as you to see that happen but I know it won't.
As for the forum, do you mean the Nventiv bashing on Asetek open forum? I asure you there will not be, if you see some please point me to it and it will be closed etc. The thread like this at Asetek it very tame tbh and will stay that way. So being a thick Englishman maybe you can just pop me an email and tell the problem?
Capiche? ;)
:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
I know you're from Belgium, but that's V-U-L-T-U-R-E
:D
No ones bashing anyone, we were worried for users that buy one. The people with the know how to fix them or know someone that can are ok, but what about the others? The sad Fact was, the GT and ST looked like a last effort to save the company, but the GT was suicide, it's not Asetek saying this m8, it's DANFOSS. Mail the people that make the compressor you all use for your own units. Maybe even speak to the man that designed it, I would think he would know everything about it ;), but thats another matter for another thread. No bashing :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Can't stop the bashing even when the competition goes under. That's a good way to get people to come over to the Asetek camp. Swell people you all seem to be. :up: :rolleyes:
Personally... I think nVENTIV going under will just stir up the custom market to the point of creating another competitor for Asstek. Can't wait to see who from XS or XR is involved 'cause you know someone will be. :)
I hope someone does start a new company and good luck to them, it creates a faster moving market.
I think some respect is needed for resellers and users at this time, they are the one that need help from people like yourself.
Cheers
will the cpu kits from vapo fit the mach 1
baker: you should sell cpu kits too
but then again, that compressor is in the cooler that produces the lowest (without modifications) temps, so it can't be all bad...Quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog20
No ones bashing anyone, we were worried for users that buy one. The people with the know how to fix them or know someone that can are ok, but what about the others? The sad Fact was, the GT and ST looked like a last effort to save the company, but the GT was suicide, it's not Asetek saying this m8, it's DANFOSS. Mail the people that make the compressor you all use for your own units. Maybe even speak to the man that designed it, I would think he would know everything about it ;), but thats another matter for another thread. No bashing :confused:
I hope someone does start a new company and good luck to them, it creates a faster moving market.
I think some respect is needed for resellers and users at this time, they are the one that need help from people like yourself.
Cheers
The resellers are going to take a big hit on this, and some may go under because of it. When you RMA it to them, who do they RMA it to?
Keep in mind that we are talking about products that are user installed. A little twist of the evaporator head and they get it back for an expensive repair.
Time for the rise of "Xtremesystems the Cascade Co".....:p:
Bulldog20 I would say nventiv using a R134A compressor with R404A in their GT would be as bad as say Asetek's XE don't you think? ;)
In both cases Danfoss clearly states that it doesn't work but wait that didn't stop Asetek.
Pretty hyprocritical.
Just wanted to update that Kit-Tronics.com has dropped $100 of the $200 increase for the Mach1. Greer replied to a couple of my emails and came up with great reasons for increasing the price. Basically the increase goes towards the honoring of any warantee claims for the now defunct nVENTIV. (still bums me out saying that)
..at least asetek has support...that you can actually see and use. They have a great forums that end users help each other out and the support staff is there too.
I wonder what the outcome had been if nVENTIV had taken the same approch to supporting their products with a forums, seems all I ever heard was lack of reponce from them when there was a problem or question with their product. I know that fact alone is what led me to by the LS over the GT. Glad I did now.
Argh.. We've all just been :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Glad I bought my GT :D
And I have all kits available too, hehe. But my Mach1 wouldn't very likely be repaired now... I got their confirmation, and it should be called back for repair this week :(
That's really bad news ...
Hmm. I'd like to get the Mach1 baker vid card modded then, but dunno how here in cr*ppy Germany :rolleyes:
Shipping alone would kill me... :(
Gee I wonder why Asetek hasn't had their titles changed to *TROLL* yet?
Heh just giving em a taste of what they're showing everyone else ;)
I don't know about you guys, but I always beleived the best marketing was never acknowledging competition exists.
`s
It's a different compressor :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Bulldog20 I would say nventiv using a R134A compressor with R404A in their GT would be as bad as say Asetek's XE don't you think? ;)
In both cases Danfoss clearly states that it doesn't work but wait that didn't stop Asetek.
Pretty hyprocritical.
Do your own research on it :)
Cheers
Can we please stop with the talk about Nventiv compressors. This is a thread that was put up to mourn the loss of this company, not an oportunity to say they were bad to begin with. As far as I know people have been regassing mach I's and mach II's for some time and I've never heard of a compressor failing. Be that as it may Nventiv made excellent products and its sad to see them go.
I'd love to keep this on topic, I just can't stand the Asetek guys coming in and trashing the nVENTIV units. I own products from both companines and I think they're both great.
Yeah they're different compressors but Asetek is doign the same thing, R404A in a R134A compressor. :P
i'm past mourning,
are kit-tronics really jacking up the price?
i dunno, but i think they're making a profit from buying cheap old stock. and selling them for even more much more!!
honor the warrenties, i don't think so, maybe one or two just for show. i mean how many peeps do you know got replaced with a whole new unit.
and when more people realise there is no future for the mach2, they'll drop the prices.
i foresee cheap mach2's on forsale forums. that will be the best time to buy. but people will still be put off by dead end technology.
ofcourse some of you won't have probs with DIY kits on machs, but most people will see the mach as obsolete tech.
imo i think kit tronics should sell them cheaper, and keep a fixed number of stock for warrenties. that is fair to nventive. not rip people off by increasing the price by $200!! thats robbery!!
asetek will be keeping the prices the same, why not them
obsolete tech or not, it still :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:s over anything Asetek has to offer...
plus I would rather not support a 2nd rate company with complete disregard of ethics..
This thread has turned to the [H] side... :(
It's a shame, there is just no help some people.
:)
Enjoy :p:
Cheers
Pity nVentiv went broke....
imo, most end-users after vapor-phase-cooling would definitely look at the asetek units as they're way cheaper & offer similar performance...
When I say "most" end-users, I mean ppl that want best bang-for-buck....
Vapo LS in OZ is AUD$1375...
Mach II in OZ is AUD$1650 (for the ugly looking black case)...if you can find it...
I've also read a few stories where ppl getting warranty done on their Mach I/II had to send the unit off & wait so long before getting it back...
When I bought my Vapo PE, it had a leak. I contacted asetek support & they were very helpful...
I had a "new" Vapo PE sent to my front door within 1 week of aseetek support declaring the unit faulty...
Didn't have to send my unit off to them first, got the replacement & then sent the faulty unit back to them....
Now that's what I call service...
Getting back to nVentiv...sad to see them go but I hate to say this, their support/warranty was severely lacking compared to Asetek's support/warranty....
I do not mean to offend anyone. I agree that the Mach II ST/GT et al is a better cooling unit... Just that the support (apart from JCViggen) wasn't too crash hot.
Just my 2 cents on the matter....
ehm, warranty @ chip-con was verry good imho,
send my unit to Denmark on 25/08/03.
and almost one week later they shipped my unit back :
5:22 A.M. KOLDING, DK OUT FOR DELIVERY
Aug 29, 2003
7:42 P.M. BRUSSELS, BE ORIGIN SCAN
5:02 P.M. BRUSSELS, BE PICKUP SCAN
that's what I call service.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...k&pagenumber=2
a friend of mine bought two units, Vapo LS and GT. He was very dissapointed when he realised his more expensive unit came without a display. Now imagine that ugly, plasicky looking GT without display...Quote:
Getting back to nVentiv...sad to see them go but I hate to say this, their support/warranty was severely lacking compared to Asetek's support/warranty....
The GT is slightly better in terms of cooling, but i say Vapo is overall a better unit i mean quality, functionality, fittings, condensation proofing, software etc.
Not as good as having a unit shipped to you & then allowing you to take the time to change your components over from the "old" unit & then send the "old" unit back to them....Quote:
Originally posted by Gamer
ehm, warranty @ chip-con was verry good imho,
send my unit to Denmark on 25/08/03.
and almost one week later they shipped my unit back :
5:22 A.M. KOLDING, DK OUT FOR DELIVERY
Aug 29, 2003
7:42 P.M. BRUSSELS, BE ORIGIN SCAN
5:02 P.M. BRUSSELS, BE PICKUP SCAN
that's what I call service.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...k&pagenumber=2
In other words, I had the new unit sent to me first & then I sent back the old unit when I felt like it....
Can't beat that now can ya??
ALAS, sad to see a company go down like that.... We'll see in 2-3 months time what the prices are for the sole phase-change systems are....
Cheers,
Minnyboy
edit:
there was a slight leak at the evap head, I just added some neoprene to it for a while until I decided to email asetek support about the fault...
so you left you mobo and stuff attached to a faulty Vapo, before you disassembled it ? :DQuote:
Originally posted by Minnyboy
Not as good as having a unit shipped to you & then allowing you to take the time to change your components over from the "old" unit & then send the "old" unit back to them....
I see your point :)
This really blows. I dont want asetek to be the only company overclockers should turn to for a phasechange solution. Sure custom builds are always available but their insulation methods are not as professional/clean/hassle free.
Atleast I can use this chance to sell my Mach2 for the same price I got it.
i've already seen 2 people selling mach2 GT's for forsale in the same forum
Will THIS take care of a64's for my mkII?
What a damn shame. Asetek should release a new unit soon, for a good price(no lower than they would normally price the unit), just to show that they will continue producing new, innovative, well priced units. That would win them over a good bit of skeptics pretty quick, and put everyone's worries to bed.
maybe they can make a quieter and cheaper vapo ST, with no LCD or fan controller:D
Not to be a wet fart to anyone who ordered an A64 kit at CrazyPc.com lately, but...
:( And Kit-Tronics won't sell kits without the purchase of a system... Xtwerkz.com has stopped listing nVENTIV products... www.hardwaregods.net do not have nVENTIV products listed(or much of anything else?)... and FrozenPC.com lists 13 kits instock... but I've been burned by the "not instock" email even though their website says they have something.Quote:
Dear Sir,
Our apologies but the item you have ordered, 9291A64 is no longer available and is currently sold out. We have cancelled your order.
We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
Regards
:(
It shouldn't be the end of the world though, we just need someone who has one to scan it in beside a ruler. From there cad files could be made and you could have a machine shop make one for you. OR whatevers left of nventiv could release the blueprints for the mounting kits, so people could make their own.
Definitely not the end of the world... but for people like myself... it's just easier to buy what we need and then concentrate on having fun with the equipment. I used to have free time enough to make things and just sit and think what may be cool to try but to be honest... I barely have enough time to crap let alone mod anything anymore. ;) (Vmods are different since I just take them to work and solder while I'm on "lunch break") :D
Did anyone check out that site that I had linked? They had kits, but I hadn't heard of the site.
I realy want to get an a64 kit, but not for $130. This is realy the perfect time for someone (or maybe a few people) from this forum to step in and compete with asetek.
edit-> kit-tronics has the mach I with the enlight case for $503.28, that's $64.20 cheaper than without the enlight case...but they are oos...They will probably change that price as soon as they get some in.
might have to sell my prommy soon, probably went up a bit in value:)
I don't see any A64/Fx kits there.Quote:
Originally posted by gouda96
Did anyone check out that site that I had linked? They had kits, but I hadn't heard of the site.
Can't there be made a deal?
The only thing I owned was a Vapo SE, ctgilles (who lives pretty near to me) has had several vapo's and prometeia's.
at that time, chip-con's (nventiv's) products worn the performance crown, but me as well as ctgilles always found that the vapo's had a better build quality.
so they are both good on certain things.
I know asetek also reads the forums. So asetek you guy's can also see the competence of certain users on this forum (regarding phase change).
Couldn't you guy's make a deal to work together? I mean in therms of knowledge and design.
Many forum users want baker blocks, and units made or remade by people like bowman, pcIce, ...
So if asetek could work together with these people, more people would like to buy stuff from asetek and prices can decrease due to higher sales.
Supportwise this would also be a gain, since many people could be helped on the extremesystems forums as well.
I think that these forummebers wich I'm reffering to (and I didn't named them all) are very skilled and have much knowledge and creativity. (already seen the mini frostbite and stuff like that from chilly1?)
maybe you guys and asetek should talk together, because that would be an enormous step forwards for us users.
btw, I'm not a fan of any company, I just admire the people on this forum. If we only could combine the knowledge, creativity, skills of the people on this forum, with the production capacity, tools, and r&d teams from such a company like asetek, we could see kickass systems!!
My point is; Not to argue about the competittion, forget the things from the past and try to make the best out of the situation. Think about the future.
I hope that someone from asetek reads this, and make a print of this to show it at a staff meeting or something like that.
Also, it would be a very very good thing for asetek (marketing whise) to repair deffective nventive products (for free if they are < 1year). This is a very good thing for making many new potential custommers.
yeah but asetek already built the vapo LS. it looks and cools the same as the original mach2's. and they have alot of major improvements just look at the spec for the vapo LS. i've never heard anyone with a vapo LS have condensation problems.
it was danfoss who designed the compressors. for both nventive and asetek.
nventive has nothing to give asetek, cos they've *nicked* the basic design of the mach - it was by far the best cooler then:D
as i said before asetek has improved the design.
danfoss didn't design anything for either of these companies.
these compressors already exsisted. (12V adjustable rpm compressors as found in the vapochill, where compressors designed for mobile applications, like caravans and stuff like that.)
nventiv didn't copy this idea from asetek. If you take it from that point of view, the same thing can also be said from asetek.
remeber the old days with AMD K6 cpu's wich where cooled the same way? That company was the first to introduce this new era of computing. I don't know the name anymore. (cryotech or something similar?)
but let's forget about all these things. talking about the past in that way, doesn't help anyone or anything.
Yup its Kyrotech, they went outa of that business. But I'm hoping they come back, competition is a must have for consumers to be able to come out even in this.
`s
asetek produced the first under case cooler before nventive or kryoteck were even a company, or so I read at one site. asetek made an under the case unit first, then moved over to an all in one case design with the SE and then the PE units...and now full circle back to the under case unit again. So you could say that nventive *nicked* the design from asetek.Quote:
Originally posted by Shane5578
nventive has nothing to give asetek, cos they've *nicked* the basic design of the mach - it was by far the best cooler then:D
when the first kryotech systems came out,(and that's a long while ago --> Amd K6(2) cpu's) asetekt didn't even exist yet.Quote:
Originally posted by Rukee
asetek produced the first under case cooler before nventive or kryoteck were even a company, or so I read at one site. asetek made an under the case unit first, then moved over to an all in one case design with the SE and then the PE units...and now full circle back to the under case unit again. So you could say that nventive *nicked* the design from asetek.
The information on the site you just quoted isn't correct.
Asetek's response to nVENTIV going under can be found on their forum HERE.
G
remember:
kryotech
eva/maxxxpert
nventiv/chip-con
damned :(
You forgot Maxxxpert from Korea :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by petervandamned
remember:
kryotech
eva
nventiv/chip-con
damned :(
Damn it!
With all my exam trouble I didn't notice that nVENTIV is no more. :(
That is really bad.....
No more competition :(
Hi all :)
Could be nventiv bought by another society?
I don't know if it's better to sell my Mach 2 or it's better to wait some months...
Eva is Maxxxpert m8 :)Quote:
Originally posted by TechTones
You forgot Maxxxpert from Korea :rolleyes:
The Eva-3 :D
Cheers
I know, I have one :DQuote:
Originally posted by Bulldog20
Eva is Maxxxpert m8 :)
The Eva-3 :D
Cheers
a rumour runs, Nventiv would have been repurchased and would come back.
thread digger ...:stick: :)Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
a rumour runs, Nventiv would have been repurchased and would come back.
any proof on ur "romours"?
kryotech are still going...they just supply to industry rather than the general public.
As far as I know they also own a heap of patents also for phase change cooling or at least did at one stage.
new stock of nventiv products in some shops, stores
wait and see
Why that? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by cpulloverclock
new stock of nventiv products in some shops, stores
I have heard that nVentiv have indded been bought/taken over!!!
Lets wait and see!! ;)
Woah... Nice!! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally posted by Cashman
I have heard that nVentiv have indded been bought/taken over!!!
Lets wait and see!! ;)
I have a leaking Mach1 here for over 4 months now. They accepted the RMA before they went down. It has never been called in for repairs (they wrote they had some problems with the machines ;) )
Are there any news? :)
Well a swedish store will get mach 2 GT´s instock soon :)
Huh? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Murmlos
Where do they get those from????
nVENTIV was a wholeseller I think and did not actually make them, atleast that is the word at extremeprometia who are also now selling them again :D
ok, i understood but....what about nVENTIV? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Murmlos
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/ think that was the place oc.se got their stuff
And where do THEY get there stuff from??Quote:
Originally Posted by xviz
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
Read on another forum from Marci that the company that made the units for NVentiv still had stock and liquidated them to some resellers.
They're doing that to recover from the debt owed to them by nventiv.
Oh.Quote:
Originally Posted by `schr0et
But I was hoping nVentiv got a second chance under new fresh name, continuing the product line... :(
I'm sorry to inform, but ExtremePrometeia online store in UK is not recommendable at all, I ordered 2 packages of seal string they just send me 1 and don't refund me.. after 2 months still waiting for a refund :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by xviz
Edit: I received an PM from phil stanbridge, he said that send me the 2nd package of seal string (missed on the 1st shipping) but did not arrived here. He offers to do the imediate refund ..
They just bought some stocks from Elcold Refrigeration Systems (the main shareholder of nVENTIV A/S) after the bankruptcy ..
:(
Pedro, it's supposed to be a dual pack of string...are you saying they only sent you one roll of it? That would piss me off to no limits.
Pedro I know the owner of this company well and there must be a missunderstanding somewhere, I have had refunds instantly if there has ever been any error, I will refer him to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
Pedro thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have sent you a PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
For everyone's information Elcold are manufacturing the units and the accessories. They are also developing new products. They have indeed got the remaining original nventiv stock, but it's definitely not the end of the Mach II - far from it, the unit is being re-launched in the new year. EP-UK is the exclusive distributor for UK & Europe and Hardware Gods is the exclusive distributor for the US. So all this negative and factually incorrect publicity has to stop!
the items seem really really expensive at that site.
LOL! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jopapa1267
Quality components my friend.
thank you, very clear :)Quote:
Originally Posted by phil stanbridge
So will Ecold continue what nVENTIV programmed?
Erm, Phil...
I had an RMA going when NVentiv went bankrupt. They sent me the confirmation my broken mach1 unit would be called back for repairs.... and that week they were gone :(
No repair, and a defective unit at home...
Do you know if this will be covered by their warranty???
(P.S. I think I have stored all the email traffic between them and me)
In a word, yes. Thats the plan. I cant divulge too much due to the NDA.Quote:
Originally Posted by swarzy85
This is something I am speaking to the manufacturer about when I see them. I have a lot of questions like this I need an answer to - I hope I can sort out the warranty situation, certainly the new units I buy (the GT's) come with the usual 12 month warranty. Its nice to know there is some official backup now, this doesnt help the majority of people in your position however, I realise. If you can send me the emails you stored I will check your case over personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
NP, it's enough :)Quote:
Originally Posted by phil stanbridge
thank you :)
KAW KAW! @ gamer
RIP nVentiv, you guys made great products....
I can't complain about the gig of 3700EB I got from EP through a mutual friend ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jopapa1267
I never did thank you personally Phil, let me take the opportunity to remedy that now.
Thanks a lot! :toast:
what do you mean ???Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
u said vulture... kaw... as in how crows kaw... the sound they make... i knew it wouldt come out right.... ohwell.. it was funny to me... *crawls back into his hole and dies*
Quote:
Originally Posted by phil stanbridge
Thanks Phil. :D
I sent you a PM.
Greetz, Stefan
any truth that kit-tronics now manufactures NVENTIV (former) products?
C
Not that I'm aware - I know that Hardware Gods are the exclusive distributors in the US, I also know that a couple of other stores, Kit-Tronics included had old stock kicking around.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie
I will divulge some new stuff, just as soon as I've cleared it with the manufacturer. I shall start a new thread.
Actually, its possible they might have something to do with the new LGA775 cpukit, but I'll find out.
I have just bought a brand new Mach II GT from Phil over at Extreme Prometeia, and have to say that it was a great feeling!!
After spending £550 on a unit that has no 'officia'l warranty, I'm not the least bit bothered!
The support from Extreme Prometeia is first class and the news that the units are going to be sold again soon, fills me with Extreme Pleasure....
These units are top notch and clearly the nest "freezers" that money can buy!!! Woohooo to nVentiv and the "new nVentiv" :) Oh yeah, and woohooo to Extreme Prometeia!!
http://www.extremeprometeia.com/foru...ead.php?t=1141
Cashman ;)
Edit my previous e-mail about extremeprometeia, Phill PM me ..Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
SAE,
You can forget NVentiv warranty, unfortunately :(
But, most of the Prometeias faults are easy repaired by someone with some phase-change knowlodge - here in Portugal my friend Ricky already repaired and improved lot of then..
In fact my broken MachI unit, is now much more powerfull after pass into Ricky hands ;)
The most dificult part can be the electronic components in Mach II and GT (in the rear of unit, that handles the startup process an control the speed of the fans), but you can use the fixed unit withouth it - just have to start it manually using a seconde PSU.
If you are an UK resident, maybe Phill over at Extreme Prometeia have a repair service for non working units sold by Nventiv..
For other countries, reparing broken Prometeia units can represent a good business oportunity ;)
I'd love to see a review of the current incarnation of the Mach II vs. the Vapo Lightspeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashman
Hmm. You said something in your post that makes me think there's a new firmware out for our GTs??? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cashman
Oh, Pedro, that sounds real bad... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha
I wait for an answer from Phil about that though... but if it was like what you said... :(
It's only a Mach1 BTW, no electronics for startup involved ;)
What's killing me is 2 times shipping costs, repair costs :( ...and maybe the mod for vid card cooling ;) (additionally I know 99% for sure the leak is at the evaporator inside the enclosure)
I'm very glad that you're happy mate I hope to see some serious overclocks coming my way soon :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashman
Reference the warranty, you have 12 months, and it is official :cool: I already had a customer with a faulty GT, it turns out there was a problem with the fuse box - I shipped him a brand new unit under the warranty, and he's a happy customer, so you see the warranty does work :)
So, why did they go bankrupt in the first place? bad profit? (or none at all?)
They went under in the first place because they were 1/3 owned by a company in bad debt. That's what I was told.
http://www.extremecoolingtechnologies.com/
ECT announces the re-introduction of the Prometeia Cooling Units to the market. We have shipped these fully warranted and supported products to our distributors and are working on new and exciting releases for the Prometeia product line.
sad day for overclockers.............
So the Prom lives on :)
yeah, prommi goes on, hope for mach3:D
why? i figured its a good thing that the prometeia's are comming back into production.Quote:
Originally Posted by burnhead
good times....
at least there is competition in the Phase change market again, we get better products and lowered prices :D
change the title please Peter