OK, do you think 5GHz is attainable? And whats the max volt you can put?
And is my 2.4C M0 will be better then the 2.4A Prescott in 2k1?
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OK, do you think 5GHz is attainable? And whats the max volt you can put?
And is my 2.4C M0 will be better then the 2.4A Prescott in 2k1?
omg thats nice! I saw a few ppl who got these somewhere else and they maxed at 3ghz on air? I think maccis mmight do 3.8ghz on air? hmm nice clocks though :) and the other person who posted....(forgot name)...nice clocks also. Please, we need more results! Tedinde said he ordered like 2-3 weeks ago! Come on in bro and post something about that beast :) :D
3.8G on air - not even close to that :)
It runs barely thru the 1M Superpi test at 3465MHz w/ default volts+aircooling. Extra volts and cooling is what makes it fly.
Default volts/air its some 200MHz worse than my 3.0C but w/ R404 + overvolt its 200MHz better than the 3.0C :)
Guys, wait till Grantsdale i915 chipsets omg. There u will see the true power of prescott core.
Why not get the faster i925 Alderwood if you are going Intel?Quote:
Originally posted by Kanavit
Guys, wait till Grantsdale i915 chipsets omg. There u will see the true power of prescott core.
veeery interesting. this would be nice in a chiller maybe.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
3.8G on air - not even close to that :)
It runs barely thru the 1M Superpi test at 3465MHz w/ default volts+aircooling. Extra volts and cooling is what makes it fly.
Default volts/air its some 200MHz worse than my 3.0C but w/ R404 + overvolt its 200MHz better than the 3.0C :)
hm, ive seen these available in the uk.
edit: I've got a P4P800 Deluxe + P4 2.4A Prescott coming my way tommorow. Only have stock cooling atm tho, need to get something better, but don't know what tbh.
Hi guys,
I'm interested in buying this Prescott.
I have a OCZ PC3500 Dual Channel Platinum Limited Edition, can you tell me if anyone tryed this mems with this cpu and Asus P4C800 DLX and what was the results.
Best regards,
Jorge Lopes
just picked mine up + a p4p800 deluxe board.
My box code is.
PROD CODE: BX80546PE2400ESL7E8
MM #: 860580
FPO/BATCH #: 7402A675
BOX DATE: 02/19/04
that guy with the 4.6ghz one was the 18th of Feb :slobber: 1 day out.
Also the actual cpu's corners seem to have slight grooves in them, this normal? Coz my 2.4C m0 didnt have these afaik.
Stable as hell..
but looks cool :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...24a_4807id.gif
2.4A + cascade
OMG!!!!!! thats stable!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:, I love that CPU. Is it beating your P4EE? dont thing so but....
Nice clock. A 100% overclock. :)
To bad I killed my IC7 and P4C800. So my 2.4A has to wait.
@ macci
what was the max. clock you could reach with aircooling?
I got 3.8GHz -> one SuperPi run but very unstable :(
Looks like I may be getting one of these to go with a chiller. Cant wait
..you do know that is a 100% overclock? my god! what are the temps with that cascade and that chip?Quote:
Originally posted by macci
Stable as hell..
but looks cool :D
http://www.akiba-pc.com/e107_images/...24a_4807id.gif
2.4A + cascade
That is some crazy S*** !!!!! My hero :D
Someone please make some 3dmark tests, we all see its super fast in pi...
I posted a 3DMark2001SE lobby hi test run w/ 2.8E @ 4200 (300FSB 5:4 2-2-2-5) - only 160FPS. P4EE w/ similar clocks would hit around 175-180FPS.
2.4A@4.5GHz 250 1:1 2-2-2-5 would probably hit over 170FPS there.
nvm macci did itQuote:
Originally posted by Eru
Someone please make some 3dmark tests, we all see its super fast in pi...
macci, whats the better bang for the buck running a chiller, 3.0c or this prescott? im kinda biased towards this 2.4A to be different
oh and what is the superpi 1m at 4.8ghz and higher with that? :confused:
The 2.8E I had a week ago or so (sold now) would run 3780MHz max w/ +15C air at 1.53V on AI7 mobo.Quote:
what was the max. clock you could reach with aircooling?
I got 3.8GHz -> one SuperPi run but very unstable
Normal room temp, alpha 8942+80mm fan and Vdroop modded P4C800-E w/ default BIOS volts would get that chip up to 3550ish superpi 1m stable.
This 2.4A wouldn't pass the 1m superpi any higher than 3460MHz w/ the same settings. Haven't tried the 2.4A w/ higher volts/colder air yet but I'll test it w/ watercooling tomorrow :)
So 3.8G aircooled thru Superpi is not a bad chip!
Peen, I'm useing a 3.0C on my main rig and 2.4A in bench system at the moment. The prescott is far more interesting for some reason even thou it may not be as good as 3.0C for everyday usage (HT missing). :D
4.8G was max "CPU-Z stable" speed of course :D
Runs superpi 8M at a bit over 4.5G and 1M at 4556MHz so far (29sec).
I'm going to add some extra mosfets and capacitors to the mobo I think..
Hm, I need to start subzero cooling. But my board is broken. :(
Extra Mosfets or replace the current ones with stronger ones?
Which board?
P4C800-E, there are 3 empty mosfet solderpads (1 for each phase) and loads of space for extra caps :D
Hehe :D There is a fourth one next to the AGP slot -> what is that for?
Where to solder the extra caps?
Id like to do this mod :)
nice macci,
I have a new D1 Prescott to put under the cascade this weekend.
pack date 3/12/2004
macci -
put your 9800xt with that prescott and get, like, 11000 3d03! :toast: simply outstanding
I'm thinking 5GHz :DQuote:
nice macci,
I have a new D1 Prescott to put under the cascade this weekend.
Whats the stock speed on that one? And whats the code?
Q34ES
I pop up a cpuid air OC in a bit
is this the 2.4A? and is it readily available? i want :slobber:Quote:
Originally posted by FUGGER
nice macci,
I have a new D1 Prescott to put under the cascade this weekend.
pack date 3/12/2004
I decied to torture myself some with a IC7 Max3 testing my new prescott.
I cant get the multiples to work on this mobo and I am stuck at 14x... I am doing air so I should get a decent FSB going
Here it is at stock in a IC7 Max3
http://fugger.netfirms.com/pres32.jpg
more info :)
Overclock is what we whant.....
Im getting one, is there a week that is very good?
Fugger, that looks to be rather similar to the 3.2ES Sampsa of Muropaketti.com had. He got it up to 3850MHz/1.424V aircooled for a Superpi 1m run and up to 4644MHz/1.536V R404 cooled.
http://www.muropaketti.com/sampsa/prescott/cpu1.jpg
http://www.muropaketti.com/sampsa/prescott/cpu2.jpg
How do you know its 'D1 stepping'? Correct me if i'm wrong but the current stepping is 'C0' and the new one should be 'D0'?
CPU-Z should read the stepping as '4' not '3' if it was the new version.
youre totally right macci.....
I see now that it is a stepping 3 C0
I was mistaken, thinking this 3.2e was the newer core.
I forgot to take a pic of the bottom as well as confirm the Qx34ES
will do on swap out.
heres new stepping?
...
It still says stepping 3 though. This was from tomshardware *cough*
Anyone else been using one of these on a phase change system? I am curious cuz my new 3.0C is not doing as well as I would like.
how high do your 3ghz go? I have ordered a 2.4A and it should be here in a couple of days.Quote:
Originally posted by [CODE] 4
Anyone else been using one of these on a phase change system? I am curious cuz my new 3.0C is not doing as well as I would like.
how is the 2.4A in 3d? is it useless?
2.4A is fun not absolute useless but fun for the price ^^
18x multi is rather optimal for 1:1 action in 3D :)
it will most likely outperform NW in 3dmark lobbys but might loose a bit on car hi. overall should be a bit faster than your 2.4C (depending on how high the 2.4A clocks).
macci what is your highest 3dmark01 / 03 score with the 2.4A sofar?
I hope the cpu can manage 4.3 in 3d with my modded mach II..
with my 2.4C i run 3:2.. but I have an amazing FSB.
btw: macci to manage super pi @ 4209mhz with my 2.4C I had to disconnect the heat element on my prom.. do you use it?
oh yeah!
Overklokk in our 3DMark team managed to take 30k!
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7702851
Fugger u overclock that D steppin yet?
his cpu were C...Quote:
Originally posted by Peen
Fugger u overclock that D steppin yet?
Oh yeah thats right... my bad. Wonder if i could get 4.4ghz stable outa one of these with a chiller? i dont care if i have to shove 2v down it either lolQuote:
Originally posted by dpa
his cpu were C...
It seems those early reports of Prescotts problems with the bus speed, may be correct...
Not entirely sure but they were saying the bus speeds were causing them problems, and not necessarily their 90nm process.
Obviously these lower FSB 2.4A's are overclocking machines so SOMETHING has to be working right. It only makes sense to me...
I've been reading this post and for the lucky users with this new prescott I would like to know if every one of this CPU's has the same OC capacity?
In a few words, if I buy my cpu in Portugal could I have the same speeds Macci got over a cascade system?!
Hope to make myself explainable....
Jorge Lopes
hard to say, not enough ppl have tested:( I really want to , so someone loan me $150 :D
ill give you guys detailed overclocking tomorrow..!
Ill jump back on my 3.2e soon, I have been a little busy lately.
Sorry for the delay buts its going under the cascade.
Very cool!:D let us know how it stacks versus the 2.4C. Prices are pretty close:)Quote:
Originally posted by dpa
ill give you guys detailed overclocking tomorrow..!
Got a Prescott 2,4a today to try on my P4C800E DL and my R404a Promy
Went up to 1,6 V and 4,15 ghz without any problems. Got 33 sec spi.
Decided to increase voltage to 1,625V and got a lot of smoke and a dead board:mad: :mad:
Visually I can't see anything wrong in the board and in the cpu.
Anybody with a similar problem or know what the problem is?
I have a friend also with this chip and a P4C800 which won't boot above 1,6V.
I'm very frustated
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Lo dudes, putting mine in tommorow. Gonna test it in the AI7 first, then if that doesn't like it swap over to the P4P800 Deluxe (will I need to re-format?)
Think I can get 200FSB 1:1 on the stock cooler?
Ojdr did the cpu worked on the other board? Is the step of the cpu not the best we can find?Quote:
Originally posted by ojdr2001
Got a Prescott 2,4a today to try on my P4C800E DL and my R404a Promy
Went up to 1,6 V and 4,15 ghz without any problems. Got 33 sec spi.
Decided to increase voltage to 1,625V and got a lot of smoke and a dead board:mad: :mad:
Visually I can't see anything wrong in the board and in the cpu.
Anybody with a similar problem or know what the problem is?
I have a friend also with this chip and a P4C800 which won't boot above 1,6V.
I'm very frustated
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Hope you have more luck, I was interested in buying one of this in Portugal....
Jorge Lopes :banana:
The P4C800 wont POST if Vcore is set above 1.6V from the BIOS w/ Prescott chip. If you wish to go above 1.6 I suggest that you A) install some good cooling for Vcore mosfets b) do the the Vcore mod and Vdroop mod too.
I dunno about that - had the 2.8E up to 320x14 5:4 RAM w/ aircooled NB.Quote:
It seems those early reports of Prescotts problems with the bus speed, may be correct...
Theres a review of the 2.4A over at HardOCP . They love it. On a Koolance Exos they got 3.7ghz stable.
Macci: got my 2.4A today..
Iam having 2 problems.
A: when I boot up at 200mhz FSB and raise it in windows the agp speed follows...
B: I cant get the vcore higher than 1.7v...
I need the vcore mod.. URL?
btw: Macci, do you hang out on a IRC channel? I need an answer..... hehe
Macci, thanks for your clarifications. Have one doubt: is there a vcore mod for the P4C800? I only know the droop mod......
here.. my cpu is hot under watercooling and 1.69v...
http://www.home.no/dpa/Ftp/Bilder/holy....JPG
http://www.home.no/dpa/prescott.htm
After testing, the board is really dead but cpu is ok.
I have tested on air, stock cooler, on another P4C800 and got 3650 mhz at 1,5V benchable for SPI. Temp: 60C.
Someone post some sandra cpu test!!
I'm just wondering if this thing will kill the amd mobiles series.
You don't want to see how it does in Sandra...:stick:Quote:
Originally posted by bluestar88
Someone post some sandra cpu test!!
I'm just wondering if this thing will kill the amd mobiles series.
Lets just say my 2.4c @ 3.3 is faster than a Prescott at 3.8...
Think I can run this chip @ 200fsb on stock cooler 24/7?
hey macci, how much would an upgrade for my P4C800E be if you did that :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: to my board plus added all the known vmods. Name your price.Quote:
Originally posted by macci
P4C800-E, there are 3 empty mosfet solderpads (1 for each phase) and loads of space for extra caps :D
check out the services section...hell-fire will do it for the price of the added hardware, which is almost nothing...go check it out.Quote:
Originally posted by Slickthellama
hey macci, how much would an upgrade for my P4C800E be if you did that :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: to my board plus added all the known vmods. Name your price.
So the 4ghz doesn't really mean anything? And this thing is really slower? How could that be 1mb L2 and 4ghz... Would my 2.44ghz mobile 2400+ beat this thing?Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
You don't want to see how it does in Sandra...:stick:
Lets just say my 2.4c @ 3.3 is faster than a Prescott at 3.8...
my Prescott 2.4A @ 3.4Ghz (189mhz FSB 1:1 2-2-2-6) is better than my 2.4C @ 3.2 (267mhz FSB 5:4 2-2-2-6)... in UT2k4. the game runs smoother now.
Yeah I was only talking about Sandra.
They seem to do really poorly there :p:
it sucks in sandra.. I have tried.. hehe
What about head to head in 3dmark? How much of a difference did it make in ut? ut2k4 demo is sweet, and until hl2 comes out I will probably only play that and probably bf:v.
I think you forgot to mention the mother of them all...:eek:Quote:
Originally posted by gouda96
ut2k4 demo is sweet, and until hl2 comes out I will probably only play that and probably bf:v.
http://d3c.ngz-network.de/download.php?view.8
Installed my 2,4A on my old P4C800 and did the droop mod for the first time. I used a max Vcore of 1,5875 in BIOS
The result
http://66.97.34.139/spi31seg4300.jpg
Not bad for a € 150,00 CPU
Need to find a way of increase vcore out of the BIOS. Any suggestion?
what kind of cooling are you running?
R404a Promy
DOOM III graphics can't match HL2...Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
I think you forgot to mention the mother of them all...:eek:
http://d3c.ngz-network.de/download.php?view.8
I really hope you're kidding.Quote:
Originally posted by bluestar88
DOOM III graphics can't match HL2...
Put your glasses back on, and watch that video...
I'm affraid I'm not kidding, and you should watch the HL2 videos.Quote:
Originally posted by Soulburner
I really hope you're kidding.
Put your glasses back on, and watch that video...
I've seen em all.Quote:
Originally posted by bluestar88
I'm affraid I'm not kidding, and you should watch the HL2 videos.
Its not as impressive.
John Carmack = God.
Soulburner, did u already played any of the Doom 3 betas? They're very good, indeed the light effects are awsome.
Bye,
Jorge Lopes
set the bios to 1.6v.. and turn the droop mod pot down...Quote:
Originally posted by ojdr2001
Installed my 2,4A on my old P4C800 and did the droop mod for the first time. I used a max Vcore of 1,5875 in BIOS
The result
http://66.97.34.139/spi31seg4300.jpg
Not bad for a € 150,00 CPU
Need to find a way of increase vcore out of the BIOS. Any suggestion?
i got 1.69v that way.
Thanks dpa, it works;) ;)
Some 3Dmark01 result:
cpu@ 4244
radeon 9800 Pro, default and stock cooler
21.518 Marks
Not too shabby...pretty good for a $150 chip.
You're kidding right? The game runs like crap, and the lighting was dark as hell... Flash lit looks more like a laser beam, lighting is horrible and color is decayed..l I'm hoping the full version is much better. But still I have to give HL2 the graphics award, because DOOM 3 doesn't look as real. EVerything in the game is stuck on the wall. The physics is weak.Quote:
Originally posted by jll
Soulburner, did u already played any of the Doom 3 betas? They're very good, indeed the light effects are awsome.
Bye,
Jorge Lopes
Also, I hope that video wasn't prerendered...
OK I got one for my spare PC. Only had it a few hours. I was impressed with the SuperPI scores you guys are getting. At stock speeds it's really nothing special ... LOL But thats not why we got it is it.
It has beaten my Athlon64 3400+ so far which at stock speeds of 2.2 Ghz 200 FSB mem 2-2-2-11 scored 40 Seconds. This sucker at only 188 FSB 3.38 Ghz mem 2-2-2-5 is already at 39 Seconds. Looking good :banana:
'Quote:
Originally posted by ojdr2001
Thanks dpa, it works;) ;)
Some 3Dmark01 result:
cpu@ 4244
radeon 9800 Pro, default and stock cooler
21.518 Marks
Whats ur max stable and volts?
Max for 3dmark 4250 (car high). Superpi 4380.
1,6V in Bios. 1,68 V in mbm with droop mod
Video was not pre rendered. That's some of the John Carmack magic :D.Quote:
Originally posted by bluestar88
Also, I hope that video wasn't prerendered...
omg, my Ai7 board really sucks with this prescott.
vcore ALL over the place. 1.59 to 1.7v under load. mosfet temps with fan is 60 C.
On my AI7 the Abit EQ is reporting PWM temps of 70-72'C under Prime95. Put a 80mm fan directly over mosfets+caps above CPU and it drops to 48'C !!! Ouch.
And i hope you remember that the beta is over 2 years old.Quote:
Originally posted by bluestar88
You're kidding right? The game runs like crap, and the lighting was dark as hell... Flash lit looks more like a laser beam, lighting is horrible and color is decayed..l I'm hoping the full version is much better. But still I have to give HL2 the graphics award, because DOOM 3 doesn't look as real. EVerything in the game is stuck on the wall. The physics is weak.
Also, I hope that video wasn't prerendered...
The AI7 is really not a good board for the Prescott. I've read a lot of people having problems esp with mosfet cooling with that combo. You may want to see how hot those are getting. Edit never mind I see that you've already noticed that problem
pkrew I also have an Abit IC7 - you recon I should rather run it on there then ?
LOL hl2 any good, are you joking they are even giving it away free with sapphire cards, just to try make it look like they have sold alot for when it comes out :rotf:
The IC7 would probably handle the prescott a lot better. From what I've read the mosfets don't get as hot with it. It all depends on how much vcore you're giving it. If you go over to overclockers and search through the Intel section there's a couple of good threads about the IC7 and AI7 and presscottQuote:
Originally posted by Cole
pkrew I also have an Abit IC7 - you recon I should rather run it on there then ?
Its all marketing, ATI + HL2 and Nvidia + Doom 3.Quote:
Originally posted by JWB
LOL hl2 any good, are you joking they are even giving it away free with sapphire cards, just to try make it look like they have sold alot for when it comes out :rotf: