yeah bro don't boot staight 4.try first trdrd 5 and check stability,then try tighter
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yeah bro don't boot staight 4.try first trdrd 5 and check stability,then try tighter
Quick question, does the OC Formula M have Conformal coating?
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Originally Posted by MetalRacer
nope~~ , only Z87 OCF have it .. it takes more cost and time to produce
80% of the psc Ive run wont do trdrd4 on air ;) try 5-6-4 if passes, try 4-6-4Quote:
Originally Posted by XBrytanX
Im using
1.27vCore
1.27vCache
+.400 SA
.250IOA
.250IOD
2.28vCCIN
6 is good ,but I need 4 Nick :yepp: and yes you (me) have to have pretty good set to do 4 ..I figured my best kit can pull it of tho (will play with it some more-if they won't cooperate -cold will make them :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by crustytheclown
Thanks buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
hi Nick, in Europe there's no trace of OCF.
the ship is still going through the ocean?:D
Great job anyway, i can't wait to bench the OCF!
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Originally Posted by THERULE
It is ture . our production is delayed little bit .
I believe it will be in stock soon .
:shocked:
BBSE looking good here although i'm a bit dissapointed with some tertiary...
Mem training is very stressful at these frequencies...
How do you guys get such low trdwr?
Coating is all the money,first time a didn't used any vaseline...
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/1817/ws8n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/7610/whp.jpg
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Originally Posted by crustytheclown
you trdwr is good enough
it is still depends on your kits also IMC
please try to loose Tfaw to 26
but ur timing looking good
i will have new bios to patch new PSC and BBSE LN2 preset timing ...
how about 32m benching ?
i'll do some 32m hopefully today,cpu is on air propably that's holding me back:D
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Originally Posted by crustytheclown
100% sure u can do better with cpu under cold . -50 is nice
time to fire up sofos' ss then...:D
so much this +1000Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
:welcome:
Holy crap. Sold out on Newegg in a matter of hours. For some crazy reason, UPS returned my original package after taking it half way across the country (so I never got the first OC Formula that I ordered). I ordered again 15 minutes ago, and just checked now to find the board OoS. These things are selling like hot cakes.
^^^:yepp:............:rofl:
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Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
in stock now . also the 802.11 AC one ..
what's the proper way of setting 1.25 or higher strap on this mobo ? ..I keep getting 15 :shakes:
Set 125 and 125 bclk divider and filter pll high bclk mode
got it :up:
Pretty in pink:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Normally , u dont have to touch the bclk ratio . i have auto ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by XBrytanX
u just have to change the bclk u want ...:up:
^^ where can I find all the D-Bug codes for this MB....71 and 78 in particular ( the PDF only shows few ) ,I was also wondering when to use PCIE PLL Selection
Thank you
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Originally Posted by XBrytanX
keeps those options in auto , already choosed best one for you
71 78 mean PCH unstable ... memory unstable or bclk too high might cause this issue .
Sounds like one of the mem timings might be off.Quote:
Originally Posted by XBrytanX
appeared the first z87M OCF in Italy.
There's any difference in efficiency between the z87M OCF and OCF standard?
Quote:
Originally Posted by THERULE
No difference , besides of 2 pcie slot and 4 pcie slot
And only OCF standard has coating !
... and the 5 yr wty too. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
My -M OC Formula arrived today :D Thankyou to Nick & ASRock for the support!
I got a feel for the BIOS by binning some CPUs and..... oh! OH MY! The BIOS is EXCELLENT. It's easy to navigate and timings/settings are explained PROPERLY. If I wouldn't have looked like a moron, standing there in my garage, I would have given the BIOS a round of applause.
Here's some pics:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps6e9b92ca.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psdb1f3982.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psb6e2ca06.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps35a7559f.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps011fb6ef.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps82d2a939.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...pseb7ba5f8.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps29be2697.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psf7b42b65.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps5c3ccf85.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps10d3998a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps208d6670.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps180a04d4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps0140533c.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps9770eaad.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psc1f24dc1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps8df27bb3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps3c83cb54.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psdcd00b4a.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps429c3f48.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps8a7d8a97.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psa3a5dd2f.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps8cf9c41e.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...psd5a56080.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...ps65a71efd.jpg
(I expect the board will get its own review thread at some point)
The board will be used mostly for 3D (funny that....;),) but it's been a while since I SPi'd and it'd be nice to get back into it. I have some alright Hynix CFR here, so who knows what will happen :D
Hi guys, are there any secret measurement points on the OCM?
Nice pics Kenny!
Nope, readpoints have to be done the good, old-fashioned way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wiener007
Thankee kindly! Nice colour ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
look very nice Kenny :)
ordered today mine OCF , can?t wait:)
nice pics Kenny, shows what an outstanding job the packing was for the motherboard. it was protected like it was fort knox... quiet a bit more than was pictured, but you showed the zip-ties :up:
New bios coming . Still has some issue with target cache present value ,but will not effect oc
1. fix some auto rule for daily user , improve the oc ability on retail CPU
2. improve memory oc under cold
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...87MOCF131A.rar
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z87OCF141A.rar
I also ordered a Z87M yesterday - just to play with Hynix MFR and bin retail CPUs.
I'm really looking forward for this board. Should be arrive today, so maybe first results tonight an air :)
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Originally Posted by nickshih
^^^ <3 guys ,thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Splave
can we get working tRRD 3 (Samsung) in the future please ,Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
tRRD 4 is real min internally in the chipset. Remember, bus is 64 bit wide. Can't send ACT before last burst of 4 clocks is complete. Setting lower register will just revert to min or arbitrary value.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
exactly . i ever try to boot from 3 to 1 . Even boot up ,the performance is slower than 4 .:up:
This week splmann visited me in Vienna and we benched for three days until the bitter end! :toast:
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7156&thumb=400 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7146&thumb=330 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7005&thumb=350
We binned about 11 modules rated at 2800 CL12, 1.65 volts
One ADATA module did 3300 MHz with only 1.6 to 1.55 volts on air while pretesting, but it died on ln2 before we could max it out. Couldn't handle the voltage, I guess!
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7133&thumb=350 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7139&thumb=350 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7138&thumb=350
The EK Memory Cooler got some action. Nice price, but the upper black part of the pot should not be made of plastic!
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7143&thumb=350 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7132&thumb=350 http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7151&thumb=350
That's the Hynix MFR you should get! Takes 2,4 volts (sometimes only in Windows) and scales both with voltage and cold. No cold bugs on our best 2 sticks!
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...7154&thumb=750
The funny little guy is splmann, the other punk is me
We got a pretty nice result with an 8 gb module (2800 CL12 @ 1.65 volts) from ADATA: 3700 MHz CL13
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...hmentid=187160
Links: hwbot.org | Validierung
Our best two 4 GB sticks (after the low voltage one, that died) were both ADATA and did 1900 (mine) and 1930 (splmann). Crazy how the battle for memory suddenly is really about memory! :D
3802 MHz CL14
http://www.overclockers.at/attachmen...hmentid=187158
Links: hwbot.org | Validierung
Thanks to Nick Shih for the extraordinary support. Your board is a very nice piece of hardware. Fast bootup, definitely the fastest fail recovery out there and very predictable. Congrats to Nick and the ASRock team!
was bored yesterday and just fooling around
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ps419c0dc9.png
hypers work... pretty friggin well I might add. you may add this image to 1st post as proof that they do function.
Nice,not bad efficiency also! Wondering what timings they do frozen :)
As with Ivy and most every platform, 4 is the lowest addressable value as Raja has stated, so no point in setting 1-3 as they should revert to 4 actually even thought it may be slower than actually setting 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by XBrytanX
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...pse98d9eea.jpg
:D :D :D Now I just need a chip!
new bios look good :up:
TeamX (black pcb/new batch from egg)
straight boot (1.8v/air)
http://imageshack.us/a/img259/6606/wyhp.jpg
sweet clockage!
im still playing with hypers :rofl:
for some reason, i'm having a whole lot of fun with them too :)
^^ I may get some as well ..the efficiency of this board and Hypers makes a lot of sense
P.S. I'm not in to high clocks/validation ...just had to try it :D
EDIT;
Air (1.85v)-week 13/13 :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/5258/gocc.jpg
Testing OCF-M
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/258/dgzm.png
Nice hynix men :)
My first quick test on air with 1,78V:
http://www.abload.de/img/1710-ram4csng.png
Some basic info for Z87 oc formula & Z87M oc formula here
1.bclk oc : if u want to do run-time bclk overclocking in XP or win7&8 , u "must" install Intel ME driver .
without this driver , it is impossible to change bclk in OS level. here is the download link
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...Driver1372.rar
2.cpu ratio : ME driver is not required , if u want a clean os without any driver , you still can do cpu ratio overclocking.
3.rapid OC software . This is tiny rapid oc software by Asrock . It can be operated by button on Z87 OCF , also hot key by keyboard.
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...CFtool0612.rar
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...87MOCF131A.rar Z87M OCF
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z87OCF141A.rar Z87 OCF
For me chipset driver from Intel make Rapid OC even with BCLK working with hotkeys... dont know if the ME driver is included. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
And guys take care - CPUz validator seems to have some problems at the moment:
http://abload.de/img/unbenannt6wbeq.png
Even my 24/7 rig shows the ? instead of CPU Tab!
1.64 and 1.65 is the same failure...
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Originally Posted by loopy83
Bcz u make it invisible. Make it public will be fine
No, even with "Publish Online" the ? is there :/Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Maybe its just a mistake in my browser... let me check and sry for cause a sensation ;)
We couldn't get the bclock working on a very slim Windows XP SP3. We had to install the ME driver (9.0.10 was okay for us), maybe the .net Framework 3.5 was important too (not sure), but really important was to install the "Formula Drive" software. Otherwise the Rapid OC tool always added +1 MHz to the bclock, without any real changes of the clock. Well, with the "Formula Drive" and a reboot, it was working afterwards. Don't worry if you can't start this software, you can even uninstall it after the reboot. Rapid OC will still work. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
Also important are the services: You will need the Intel Clock service and the DCOM process service, they are necessary for bclock too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by _mat_
If the me driver be installed , thr interval of bclk oc will be like 0.1 each step .
I grabbed a chip last night, but haven't fired the computer up yet. I might grab some DIce today and get a run in to test it out. Can the bios be updated from a flash drive via the UEFI? I'm used to the ROG flash on M5G. :shrug:
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Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
Yes. U can save bios into usb drive . Use instant flash option, then it will auto detect available bios for the mobo u are using
don't forget the flash drive has to be formatted to fat32, ntfs wont work.
Thanks guys! Updating to 141A right now!
Edit: I forgot to ask! Does the bios update update both of the bios chips? Or do I need to power off, switch bios switch and then flash again?
Board very promising I can boot from bios 3360 Memory with Dual Chanel without any problem ...sorry with old CPU Z lol
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2847922
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7fe85aff.jpg
will testing soon on Ln2
I'm really loving this bios, and the rapid OC buttons. I've got all the drivers installed, and this board is just rocking right now. Great work on this board, Nick!
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Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
for sure it update the rom u using only . u have to switch another rom and flash again
If one of the rom crashed , u can save it back by the security UEFI backup function on another rom .
I'm all prepped. Hopefully I'll be able to grab some DIce tonight. Otherwise, I've got to wait until Monday. Hopefully I've got a nice chip. :)
Hey all together...
I have a problem while benching Hynix MFR on LN2 tonight.
Like in post #151 mentioned max on air was around 1710MHz.
I tested with ghetto LN2 RAM pot and temps tested were between -50 and -140?C.
Absolute maximum validation reached is 1748MHz :(
The most curious thing is, that 1743MHz is 8M and 32M stable.
http://abload.de/img/screen067kvdji.jpg
I tested many things, different BCLK and multipliers, voltages and so on... exact 1745MHz was the end in all combinations.
Tested voltages:
VRAM: 1,75 to 2,1V
VSA: +0,1 to +0,4
IOD: +0,1 to +0,3
IOA: +0,1 to +0,3
PCH1.05: 1.05V to 1.4V
PCH1.5: 1,4V to 1,6V
Do somebody have an advice for me?
I also tried despaired straight the 4000MHz OC profile with 4200 timing preset from Nick - same wall.
http://abload.de/img/dsc_0019qyc3s.jpg
Thanks a lot!
Andi :)
Full bank 4G x 4 boot from bios 3200 easy....
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...ps492ac308.jpg
Very nice bro. What sticks are those RAMs specifically?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
M 4X4 boot @ 3300
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7941/x3y.png
You guys clock ram like mad... I've got a set of Gskill Pi's which can run the "PSC 2600 Tight 1.85v" preset at 1.825v on air (not 32M stable, but bootable and I accidentally installed my OS with that set), but the highest I got it to run was 2800 on any timing combination. :(
nice run , ur pm box full !Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
if u load the preset , should be fine
1. use cpu ratio x8 , cache ratio x8
2. use internal graphic
3. system agent 0,4 , ioa 0.25 , iod 0.3
4. vcore 1.3 , cache 1.3
5. pch 1.05 ==> 1.3
6. pch 1.5 ==> 1.15
7. internal graphic voltage 1.35
it should be easy to do 3600 at least , unless ur cpu imc has problem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
psc 2800 on air is good enough ,:clap:
I guess I'm so used to seeing these crazy fast Hynix and Samsung kits that I forgot the sweet spot for psc is around 2666. Thanks for the reality check, Nick!
Actually u can try to find the setting for maximum bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChanceCoats123
It will be the fastest setting for 32m
Asrock z87m oc formula ordered. From what I see this board brings the "wow" factor from Dfi ultraD days! New 4670k incoming (my previous one is a terrible chip that needs 1.38v @ 4.5Ghz to be stable even delided). Got some Kingston HyperX 2400 mhz cl11, any info on which chips do they have or any prediction about overclockability?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ejic
i think it depends on luck -.- but 310Bxxx seems nice batch to bin
GSKILL Trident X 2933 8G Kit KevinQuote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
Thanks Nick, so I was right with my settings except the internal graphics... is that such a big difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
I have to look for a Hdmi monitor first :-P
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
i dont think it is huge difference ..
It is 90% IMC & Dram related as my experience
Ok... when you said PCIe and IGP makes not such a huge difference...
I can exclude the RAM because of a very small distance between 32M and Vali. So it seems I have the worst retail on IMC ever? Bad luck as always :(
I will test an 4770K QDE4... even if the CPU was very buggy on IO voltage...
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
QDE4 is B0 cpu , this cpu has lots bugs and IMC is not good as C0
i suggest that you can still search C0 chips
Ok... so would you give the retail another try with IGP with all the facts I told you?
Thanks for your help Nick, really appreciated! :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by loopy83
i have few retail chips here , 4000 no problem .
but bad clock....
Maybe we should start 3dmark01 competiton
At set clocks? I love 3d01, and I've got a 580 Lightning at home. :D
running PSC on this chip/air is a pain ,if i rise vccin above 1.95v it starts to corrupt OS :shakes:
passed 32m few times @vccin 1.85v but on the next reboot it was all gone
http://imageshack.us/a/img521/5030/ou9.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by XBrytanX
Vccio 1.85 volt ? Why u need so high . U add iod or ioa
I think he means vccin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
in my case , rasie up CPU input voltage always help chip to pass test ..:shrug:
with raising input voltage from 1.74 to 1.90 i can reduce the vcore from 1.240 to 1.220 (for 4.5GHz CPU, 4.2 GHz Uncore). Testing Prime95 (26.6)
But the sync between cache voltage and input voltage seems to be wrong, so can't get 640K test in Prime.
An ideas hwo to stable that?
Can anyone confirm 640K test works for cache voltage and 800K for input voltage?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wiener007
maybe u have to adjust IOA , IOD , system agent also ?
Sorry i never tried such kind of full loading 24/7 here :shocked:
I only have spare time to try Hyperpi32M stable or not
sorry ,yes iod and ioa @.250Quote:
Originally Posted by nickshih
^^ this (thanks bro)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
edited my previous post
Benching DDR-3400Mhz tips here . I know lots people want to do high-speed memory OC
1. Not every cpu can overclock to DDR-3400 on air cooling
2. Hynix batch 21x ~25x like voltage , it is much easier to reach 3400 Mhz with those IC
3. after u have good CPU and good Stick . please try ur module on each dimm slot .
Memory module has it "own favorite slot" to do high-frequency .
Same dimm slot is not working on every sticks . But it still have common rule . Dimm 3(yellow outer) is the avg best one and Dimm 1 (yellow inner) is second place.
Z87 OC formula & Z87M OC formula 0701 Bios update
Fix minor bug and update lots bbse psc Hynix profile .
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/asrock/Z87OCF141E.rar
http://picx.xfastest.com/nickshih/as...87MOCF132a.rar
Im ready to take the Z87M OC Formula for a long ride on my good retail Haswell , going cold in about an hour , mini beast already in da house :D. Tx NickyBoy
nice board Nick:) work very well with samsung -1,87v, next day i will try 4x4 , some good psc and bbse for challenge:)
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps086205f4.jpg
I'm benching at this very moment, and I'm wondering if there is anyone else who doesn't see the correct voltage within Windows? I'm at 1.8vcore, and I see 1.152v using cpu-z 1.65.0. I'm not quite sure what's up. In other news, my chip seems to be pretty bad. :(
If you use adaptive power or offset it will just show base vcore not what you have added.
Or are you talking vccin?
I was talking the actual vcore (core0), but I think it was a cpu-z issue. I rolled back to 1.64.2 and it shows properly now. Thanks!