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04-22-2013, 03:56 AM
lutjens

I now have this incredibly urgent need to build a new computer...only problem is that when I do, it ends up being expensive. Damn you all for waving your hardware crack in front of this (formerly) recovering addict...:D

Sigh...
04-22-2013, 02:54 PM
bearcatrp

I can make it easier for you and sell you my dual X5670 rig. :rofl: It only has 48GB ram, 6950, 256 SSD and 2 2TB hard drives in a Corsair D800 case. Small compared to the others strutting there E-PEEN! :eek:
04-22-2013, 03:04 PM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatrp

I can make it easier for you and sell you my dual X5670 rig. :rofl: It only has 48GB ram, 6950, 256 SSD and 2 2TB hard drives in a Corsair D800 case. Small compared to the others strutting there E-PEEN! :eek:

Isn't this enabling him?

Seems mighty convenient to offload your rig right before summer. Trying to save on the power bill?
04-22-2013, 04:34 PM
bearcatrp

Quote:

Originally Posted by yojimbo197

Isn't this enabling him?

Seems mighty convenient to offload your rig right before summer. Trying to save on the power bill?

Just razzin him. I know the feeling for wanting to build another. Doubt I'll ever sell my crown jewel, wouldn't get anything near what I put into it. Would be nice to build a new 8 or 10 core dually but the prices are way out of my price range. As for the power bill, I just reduce the number of thread crunching from 24 to 6. If WCG could get more GPU projects going, not really worth building dually CPU, but build for dual GPU instead. Cheaper too.
04-22-2013, 04:48 PM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatrp

Just razzin him. I know the feeling for wanting to build another. Doubt I'll ever sell my crown jewel, wouldn't get anything near what I put into it. Would be nice to build a new 8 or 10 core dually but the prices are way out of my price range. As for the power bill, I just reduce the number of thread crunching from 24 to 6. If WCG could get more GPU projects going, not really worth building dually CPU, but build for dual GPU instead. Cheaper too.

I'm just teasing myself. I've been looking into getting another DP workstation or server, and its only been about a months since I got my xw8600 workstation. It's probably a good thing I don't live closer to North Jersey and Brooklyn. I"ll probably change my tune once summer gets here.
04-22-2013, 09:21 PM
lutjens

I'm eyeing up these two sealed retail E5-2687Ws that I bought last year, but haven't built with yet...I've been strong until now, but I think it's time for a bender...:yepp:
04-22-2013, 11:44 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

I'm eyeing up these two sealed retail E5-2687Ws that I bought last year, but haven't built with yet...I've been strong until now, but I think it's time for a bender...:yepp:

Here's something to think on:
A dualie E5-2687W has app 30% more computational power at default 3400MHz on turbo than a dualie X5690 does at 4200MHz and runs cooler and draws a hell of a lot less elec on load.
I've seen 350W draw at 3100, 420W at 3400 and the dual X5690 was close to 600W
04-22-2013, 11:51 PM
lutjens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Here's something to think on:
A dualie E5-2687W has app 30% more computational power at default 3400MHz on turbo than a dualie X5690 does at 4200MHz and runs cooler and draws a hell of a lot less elec on load.
I've seen 350W draw at 3100, 420W at 3400 and the dual X5690 was close to 600W

Fair enough...but Ivy-EP is happening soon. I'll be building a Haswell system for a utility/guinea pig/miscellaneous system when they come out, but I'm torn as to whether or not I can resist cracking open these CPUs in the meantime.;)
04-22-2013, 11:57 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

Fair enough...but Ivy-EP is happening soon. I'll be building a Haswell system for a utility/guinea pig/miscellaneous system when they come out, but I'm torn as to whether or not I can resist cracking open these CPUs in the meantime.;)

hmm, agreed..Think on this: The new IB xeons will toss out a cost that will make you think your SB xeons were cheap..:rofl:
My guess is the top 12 core IB xeons will be close to $3000.00 EACH..That's just a guess but probably very close and I'm wondering what they will make available for speed bins.
We've seen the heat issues with just a 4 core 3770K so that makes me wonder what happens when you try to run 12 of those cores at even 3GHz
mainstream watercooling anyone?
04-23-2013, 12:05 AM
lutjens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

hmm, agreed..Think on this: The new IB xeons will toss out a cost that will make you think your SB xeons were cheap..:rofl:
My guess is the top 12 core IB xeons will be close to $3000.00 EACH..That's just a guess but probably very close and I'm wondering what they will make available for speed bins.
We've seen the heat issues with just a 4 core 3770K so that makes me wonder what happens when you try to run 12 of those cores at even 3GHz
mainstream watercooling anyone?

So Intel's jacking up the price, eh? No surprise there...:rolleyes:

Heat issues, heat smissues...meh. I've been looking for an excuse to water cool something...so this is a good of a reason as any...;)
04-23-2013, 03:05 AM
Andreas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Here's something to think on:
A dualie E5-2687W has app 30% more computational power at default 3400MHz on turbo than a dualie X5690 does ...

To add to this:
Expect a 2:1 difference in I/O throughput, due to the 2687's integrated PCI root complex - this was a big architectural change between these 2 generations. This perf improvement might not happen again with the change to Haswell as they share the same PCI architecture with SB-E.

rgds,
Andy
04-23-2013, 07:32 AM
lutjens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas

To add to this:
Expect a 2:1 difference in I/O throughput, due to the 2687's integrated PCI root complex - this was a big architectural change between these 2 generations. This perf improvement might not happen again with the change to Haswell as they share the same PCI architecture with SB-E.

rgds,
Andy

C'mon take this wonderful crack..it's good for you, honest. I know you're trying to get off it and have been strong for two years, but remember how the crack made you feel? You'll enjoy it...just go for it...;)

You guys are like fellow junkies encouraging the poor, recovering hardware addict that is myself to get back on the "sauce"...:D. I may as well just throw in the towel and call up my "dealers" (Newegg et al) because the odds of me successfully withstanding this withering barrage of temptation that you guys have unleashed on me are slim to none.

Why couldn't I have taken up a cheaper hobby like bird watching or bottle cap collecting?...:rolleyes:
04-23-2013, 08:44 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

C'mon take this wonderful crack..it's good for you, honest. I know you're trying to get off it and have been strong for two years, but remember how the crack made you feel? You'll enjoy it...just go for it...;)

You guys are like fellow junkies encouraging the poor, recovering hardware addict that is myself to get back on the "sauce"...:D. I may as well just throw in the towel and call up my "dealers" (Newegg et al) because the odds of me successfully withstanding this withering barrage of temptation that you guys have unleashed on me are slim to none.

Why couldn't I have taken up a cheaper hobby like bird watching or bottle cap collecting?...:rolleyes:

Hopefully by the end of this week I'll have a review out but I can tell you with no BS that right this minute as long as you only need one video card that
the board to buy is the SM X9DAX-iF 106BCLK rock solid on stock voltage
http://valid.canardpc.com/2757902
04-23-2013, 08:59 AM
MadHacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

C'mon take this wonderful crack..it's good for you, honest. I know you're trying to get off it and have been strong for two years, but remember how the crack made you feel? You'll enjoy it...just go for it...;)

You guys are like fellow junkies encouraging the poor, recovering hardware addict that is myself to get back on the "sauce"...:D. I may as well just throw in the towel and call up my "dealers" (Newegg et al) because the odds of me successfully withstanding this withering barrage of temptation that you guys have unleashed on me are slim to none.

Why couldn't I have taken up a cheaper hobby like bird watching or bottle cap collecting?...:rolleyes:

bottle cap collecting is a cheep hobby...
see how cheep they are(eBay)
I'd rather get a E5-2687W :)
04-23-2013, 09:53 AM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

C'mon take this wonderful crack..it's good for you, honest. I know you're trying to get off it and have been strong for two years, but remember how the crack made you feel? You'll enjoy it...just go for it...;)

You guys are like fellow junkies encouraging the poor, recovering hardware addict that is myself to get back on the "sauce"...:D. I may as well just throw in the towel and call up my "dealers" (Newegg et al) because the odds of me successfully withstanding this withering barrage of temptation that you guys have unleashed on me are slim to none.

Why couldn't I have taken up a cheaper hobby like bird watching or bottle cap collecting?...:rolleyes:

I know a guy who collects bottle caps and beer mugs. Along with those miniature baseball bats and a few other odds and ends. Sounds fairly innocent and cheap, right? Well when he moved to his present place, he and his wife had so much stuff they had to built an outbuilding to house it all.

I'm also reminded of the story about a university professor who had so much vinyl that his insurance company made him shore up his housing supports before they would insure him because they were afraid his house would collapse.
04-24-2013, 06:50 PM
tiro_uspsss

my humble little NAS box :) (one of 4 servers :D )

specs:

1x Intel Xeon 'Sossaman' SL8WT 2Ghz DC (heatsink is Dynatron i65G) http://ark.intel.com/products/27222/...he-667-MHz-FSB
4x 2GB DDR2-400 ECC+REG
Tyan Tiger i7520SD S5365 http://www.tyan.com/archive/products...eri7520sd.html
AMD HD4350 (PCIEx8 slot cut open :D :cool: )
Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
Silicon Image 3132 (PCIE -> 2x SATAII)
Intel 330 120GB (OS)
2x WD Red 3TB ('puresync'd')
Sony IDE DVDRW
floppy.. yes a floppy :p:
Hyper 560W PSU
Lian Li V1100 Plus
Windows Server 2008 Standard SP2 x86

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/6505/p1000187sh.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7115/p1000189e.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6051/p1000190g.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img402/3292/p1000192v.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/4184/p1000194fg.jpg

:up:
04-24-2013, 11:21 PM
Lian Li Tech

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

my humble little NAS box :) (one of 4 servers :D )

specs:

1x Intel Xeon 'Sossaman' SL8WT 2Ghz DC (heatsink is Dynatron i65G) http://ark.intel.com/products/27222/...he-667-MHz-FSB
4x 2GB DDR2-400 ECC+REG
Tyan Tiger i7520SD S5365 http://www.tyan.com/archive/products...eri7520sd.html
AMD HD4350 (PCIEx8 slot cut open :D :cool: )
Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
Silicon Image 3132 (PCIE -> 2x SATAII)
Intel 330 120GB (OS)
2x WD Red 3TB ('puresync'd')
Sony IDE DVDRW
floppy.. yes a floppy :p:
Hyper 560W PSU
Lian Li V1100 Plus
Windows Server 2008 Standard SP2 x86

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/6505/p1000187sh.jpg

I just love those wheeled cases. :up:
04-24-2013, 11:45 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lian Li Tech

I just love those wheeled cases. :up:

I have an old PC76..IMHO one of the nicer cases you guys ever built.
I have the V2 model with the 120mm rear and 120mm blowhole..4-80's in the front bottom and room to park a Volkwagen inside! :D
04-25-2013, 09:30 AM
lutjens

It seems when Lian Li makes a damn good case, and seems to have all the bugs worked out....they discontinue it and produce something inferior...:rolleyes:

My old PC-V2100 case....the best case that I've ever owned (or likely ever will own) discontinued after a very short life...and for what....something newer (but nowhere near as good)??
04-25-2013, 09:50 AM
MadHacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

It seems when Lian Li makes a damn good case, and seems to have all the bugs worked out....they discontinue it and produce something inferior...:rolleyes:

My old PC-V2100 case....the best case that I've ever owned (or likely ever will own) discontinued after a very short life...and for what....something newer (but nowhere near as good)??

I disagree with the PC-V2100 being damn good. good yes. but not damn good.
I own one as well for my server... and had to do some modifications so that my 12 hard drives stay cool.
changed the single 120mm intake fan to dual 120mm fans, put 2 120mm fans between the hard drive racks, then added 2 more at the left side of the racks before the power supply. this keeps my hard drive temps at around 25-30c. they are 2TB WD green drives.
prior to this mod they were running at 50 deg. to warm for my taste

what I do like about the case is that it support 7 5.25 drives, which works great to add an additional 10 hard drives.
currently have 17 hard drives in it.
10 2TB in raid 6,
6 1TB in raid 10
1 500 gig for downloads so t doesn't thrash the raid drives.
1 64 gig SSD for boot.
all raided drives are plugged into a Highpoint RocketRAID 3560 24 channel Controller.
so still have room for more drives :)
just no convenient place to put SSD's

thinking of going to a NORCO RPC-4224 4U Rackmount Server Case with 24 Hot-Swappable SATA/SAS Drive Bays
anybody here use it?
04-25-2013, 02:55 PM
lutjens

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHacker

I disagree with the PC-V2100 being damn good. good yes. but not damn good.
I own one as well for my server... and had to do some modifications so that my 12 hard drives stay cool.
changed the single 120mm intake fan to dual 120mm fans, put 2 120mm fans between the hard drive racks, then added 2 more at the left side of the racks before the power supply. this keeps my hard drive temps at around 25-30c. they are 2TB WD green drives.
prior to this mod they were running at 50 deg. to warm for my taste

what I do like about the case is that it support 7 5.25 drives, which works great to add an additional 10 hard drives.
currently have 17 hard drives in it.
10 2TB in raid 6,
6 1TB in raid 10
1 500 gig for downloads so t doesn't thrash the raid drives.
1 64 gig SSD for boot.
all raided drives are plugged into a Highpoint RocketRAID 3560 24 channel Controller.
so still have room for more drives :)
just no convenient place to put SSD's

thinking of going to a NORCO RPC-4224 4U Rackmount Server Case with 24 Hot-Swappable SATA/SAS Drive Bays
anybody here use it?

I never had a problem cooling my 12x WD 2TB WD2002FYPS drives, but then again, the computer never ran with the side panel on. I liked the fact that there's a bit of space between the drives. I swapped the original fans in the front, rear ans sides as soon as I bought it as well, so that may have helped.;)

Still love that case though....you can have a small party in there....:D
04-25-2013, 03:35 PM
MadHacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutjens

I never had a problem cooling my 12x WD 2TB WD2002FYPS drives, but then again, the computer never ran with the side panel on. I liked the fact that there's a bit of space between the drives. I swapped the original fans in the front, rear ans sides as soon as I bought it as well, so that may have helped.;)

Still love that case though....you can have a small party in there....:D

well originally that was my man machine, so I wanted it quiet. a bunch of fans at low speed is quieter then 1 fan at high speed.
I ran it at the time with the side covers on to minimize noise.
now I run it with the side covers off and its not in the same room.
I hate fan noise.
04-25-2013, 05:45 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHacker

well originally that was my man machine, so I wanted it quiet. a bunch of fans at low speed is quieter then 1 fan at high speed.
I ran it at the time with the side covers on to minimize noise.
now I run it with the side covers off and its not in the same room.
I hate fan noise.

YEAH! I just got a whole bunch of Noctua, can't hear those with ear 2 in away
04-26-2013, 01:15 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lian Li Tech

I just love those wheeled cases. :up:

you guys should be providing them as stock! :p: :up:

:toast:
05-09-2013, 03:57 AM
tiro_uspsss

my... 9th :para: Lian li case... a PC-A77F. It is my disc burner server! :D

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1198/p1000199aa.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1623/p1000200u.jpg

specs:

Intel Xeon W3520 with TRUE Black
Supermicro X8STE
6x 2GB Hynix ECC
Nvidia 7300LE
10x Samsung DVDRW
2x Silicon Image 3114
Intel 330 120GB @ OS @ Windows Server 2012
Intel 520 60GB @ iso read/write dump
Gigabyte Odin Pro 1200W (yeah I know overkill, but thats what I had lying around!)
05-10-2013, 09:26 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

my... 9th :para: Lian li case... a PC-A77F. It is my disc burner server! :D

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1198/p1000199aa.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1623/p1000200u.jpg

specs:

Intel Xeon W3520 with TRUE Black
Supermicro X8STE
6x 2GB Hynix ECC
Nvidia 7300LE
10x Samsung DVDRW
2x Silicon Image 3114
Intel 330 120GB @ OS @ Windows Server 2012
Intel 520 60GB @ iso read/write dump
Gigabyte Odin Pro 1200W (yeah I know overkill, but thats what I had lying around!)

we are like case brothers now :-)

mine had lots if hard drive spots yours has lots of CD ROM

how you like it? awesome case right? its like a cm stacker done right with no steel or plastic

where did you get those wheels, I wants em for mine
05-13-2013, 01:13 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

we are like case brothers now :-)

mine had lots if hard drive spots yours has lots of CD ROM

how you like it? awesome case right? its like a cm stacker done right with no steel or plastic

where did you get those wheels, I wants em for mine

all Lian Li's are awesome! :D

the wheels? eh.. I'm in Australia, I get them from a distro named EHI. If you have hardwood floors I cannot recommend them enough - as a timber floor layer myself, I have seen what those cheap nasty plastic wheels that you find on cases & office chairs do to the varnish of timber floors - the wheels I have are a nice soft-ish polyurethane. :) :up:
05-13-2013, 01:27 AM
N3RO

DL160 upgraded from 16GB to 48GB :)

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/3...0510152130.jpg
05-13-2013, 01:18 PM
Kain665

Tiro, what the heck are you burning so many copies of? :wth:
05-13-2013, 05:08 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain665

Tiro, what the heck are you burning so many copies of? :wth:

one word,

linux
05-16-2013, 01:47 PM
eric270

My little HP Z400

-Xeon W3680
-24gb DDR3
-Nvidia Tesla C2070
-LSI MegaRaid 9266-4i with CacheVault
-2x Samsung 128gb 840 PRO SSD
-Nvidia NVS 450
-2x 1TB WD RE4 Enterprise HDD's
- 8 Noctua fans

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps1ce7f8fd.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps4f90655a.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps37694a13.png
05-17-2013, 12:48 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric270

My little HP Z400

-Xeon W3680
-24gb DDR3
-Nvidia Tesla C2070
-LSI MegaRaid 9266-4i with CacheVault
-2x Samsung 128gb 840 PRO SSD
-Nvidia NVS 450
-2x 1TB WD RE4 Enterprise HDD's
- 8 Noctua fans

nice rig :up:
is the RAM ECC?
I'm jealous of the W3680! :p:
05-17-2013, 02:39 AM
eric270

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

nice rig :up:
is the RAM ECC?
I'm jealous of the W3680! :p:

Thanks!
Yes RAM is ECC

W3680 is a great cpu and I am very pleased with it.
05-17-2013, 11:57 AM
s0lid

http://koti.mbnet.fi/ipe91/b/c6100/2.jpg

One of my C6100 nodes, pair of 2x L5520s and 48GBs of ECC REG :P
05-17-2013, 03:28 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric270

Thanks!
Yes RAM is ECC

W3680 is a great cpu and I am very pleased with it.

very nice, very nice! :up:
06-09-2013, 12:50 AM
Blackstare

A little server running ESXi and a NAS

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...90214538_n.jpg
06-18-2013, 12:55 AM
s0lid

My humble ESXi cluster, running:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/ipe91/b/vcenter.png
06-18-2013, 05:38 PM
Blackstare

Today I got my hands on 3 of these blades, Dell PowerEdge M610, each one is Dual Xeon X5670 6c/12t @ 2.93Ghz and 32GB of 1066 RAM. I have no chassis to run them though

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9710/9l8.png
06-20-2013, 02:52 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackstare

Today I got my hands on 3 of these blades, Dell PowerEdge M610, each one is Dual Xeon X5670 6c/12t @ 2.93Ghz and 32GB of 1066 RAM. I have no chassis to run them though

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9710/9l8.png

I have a chassis :D just send one over, I'll take good care of it! :p: :D :up:
06-20-2013, 07:47 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

I have a chassis :D just send one over, I'll take good care of it! :p: :D :up:

this is xtreme(crunching)systems. use cardboard
06-26-2013, 04:23 PM
THEHAWKs

i had built this for use as a hackintosh but fell into the world of ESXI, im going to build proper system when Ivy Bridge-E comes out till then just learning.

asus rampage iv gene, intel xeon e5 2658 ES c2 , crucial vlp sport 16GB, intel pro/1000 vt quad, ocz vertex 4 256gb ssd

http://i.imgur.com/ChEuOAW.png

http://i.imgur.com/R3EBN5Z.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hKdkc97.jpg
07-17-2013, 02:41 AM
s0lid

Newest pieces of supermicro :wasntme:
http://www.konf.fi/supermicro.jpg

Ought to get new PSU before actual use, these PWS-801-1R's are nasty.
PWS-501P-1R on the otherhand, platinum rated at avg of 93% efficiency and quiet fans. MMMMM :up:
07-17-2013, 03:15 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

Newest pieces of supermicro :wasntme:
http://www.konf.fi/supermicro.jpg

Ought to get new PSU before actual use, these PWS-801-1R's are nasty.
PWS-501P-1R on the otherhand, platinum rated at avg of 93% efficiency and quiet fans. MMMMM :up:

pardon the n00by-ness, G34 or 2011?
07-17-2013, 03:59 AM
s0lid

Just Old 1366. Goin to run with single L5520 or L5630. Either way rather low wattage system for fileserving purposes.
Goin to need lots of Pci-e slots though ^^
07-18-2013, 07:26 AM
NKrader

A nice blurry pic of the second half of my 500 watt dual board quad socket 24 core dedicated cruncher, just need to get the cables and then it's good to go!http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2e800350.jpg
07-18-2013, 08:02 AM
Duh

@solid : single cpu in a duallie? Why so? The 5520 s can be purchased at something close to 25 bucks
Never ever had a duallie myself :(

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
07-18-2013, 08:09 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duh

@solid : single cpu in a duallie? Why so? The 5520 s can be purchased at something close to 25 bucks
Never ever had a duallie myself :(

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

find a mobo that supports dual 2372 HE

i will give ya a pair and a pair of dynatron 1207 heatsinks to go with em :)
07-18-2013, 08:39 AM
Duh

Oh my I forgot about them. Many thanks N ;)
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
07-18-2013, 11:01 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duh

@solid : single cpu in a duallie? Why so? The 5520 s can be purchased at something close to 25 bucks
Never ever had a duallie myself :(

Because electricity isn't free and I got more use for pci-e slots than cpu power, had to do with dual socket board if I wanted server grade motherboard.
07-18-2013, 11:07 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

Because electricity isn't free and I got more use for pci-e slots than cpu power, had to do with dual socket board if I wanted server grade motherboard.

power bills are overraited..

if it aint crunching, its a waste :p

this is how you build a file server LOL
07-18-2013, 11:37 AM
Duh

Looks gorgeous man
s0lid: how much could a L5520 eat? Ah you live in a civilized country with high costs of electricity
07-19-2013, 07:16 PM
Hawkeye4077

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

power bills are overraited..

if it aint crunching, its a waste :p

My old C32 system cost about $80/month running WCG full tilt.. When it is 1/3rd of my entire electricity bill it had to go... :( bad for everybody (especially the science)
07-22-2013, 12:49 PM
NKrader

Servers the way they are meant to be! on cardboard :)

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...pse4d18575.jpg
07-23-2013, 08:38 AM
Levish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077

My old C32 system cost about $80/month running WCG full tilt.. When it is 1/3rd of my entire electricity bill it had to go... :( bad for everybody (especially the science)

According to ILO our newer DL380p's (production) use between 175w - 200w on average (less than 250w peak), Dual Hexa / 384GB ram, not counting storage, 2x of them run approximately 60 production server vm's.

Servers have come a very long way in terms of power consumption in real world use versus ~ 5 years ago when something like this would be running on several Gigawatts on physical hardware.

Synthetic benchmarks may / may not be so kind but the combination of new hardware and virtualization has improved power efficiency by orders of magnitude for our use case at least, and we do pay for power use in the form of how many 20a 120v circuits we have to buy with the data-center provider.
07-23-2013, 01:22 PM
WrigleyVillain

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

power bills are overraited..

Sure...for those on the teat of Bonneville dam!
07-23-2013, 09:00 PM
Hawkeye4077

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levish

Synthetic benchmarks may / may not be so kind but the combination of new hardware and virtualization has improved power efficiency by orders of magnitude for our use case at least, and we do pay for power use in the form of how many 20a 120v circuits we have to buy with the data-center provider.

Where I am in Alaska is way above the national average. In Anchorage it is actually UNDER the national average for electricity costs. In winter when I have to have my truck plugged in 3 hours before I want to start it (at -20 and below) it goes up even more. There is one electricity COOP here and they exist to line the pockets of the investors. plus its not de-regulated so for folks on retirement or Social Security get absolutely no breaks.
07-24-2013, 07:10 AM
WrigleyVillain

So I saw it mentioned that when VMs are allowed to enter a low power state or sleep then the host itself can as well...are there any other caveats or things to be aware of here?
08-02-2013, 08:24 AM
NKrader

Remote desktop you say?

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps451d4f3b.png

I love that I just log in from my phone wherever I am :-)

Program rocks!
08-05-2013, 08:51 PM
NKrader

Changed from Arctic cooling to dynatron modded with noctua got both boards running the same exact setup
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps114e5a3c.jpg
08-14-2013, 09:41 AM
NKrader

Custom cables for file server are getting started! Woot!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2a5bae01.png
08-18-2013, 09:33 PM
Ender17

where is that from?
08-19-2013, 06:51 AM
WrigleyVillain

Uh a doc on his phone?
08-29-2013, 08:55 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender17

where is that from?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain

Uh a doc on his phone?

Yes? But maximum mods is doing the work.

Also, picked up one of these babies for my file server :-D so stoked
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps93830e2d.jpg
09-06-2013, 06:06 AM
voodooFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas

Last autumn, I built 3 servers for a study project. People might be interested in the hw configs.

Server number 1 (single socket):
Before building the faster server, this one served as a kind of testbed. The goal was to configure it for good I/O performance.
i7-3930K, 64GB, 32 x SSDs via 4 LSI controllers, Mellanox 40 Gbit/sec network adapter

Fast I/O needs parallelism, like cpu bound programs need multicore cpus (or gpu's, if the application fits to this hw approach)
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...5/original.jpg

Before settling on the Samsung SSDs, I tested approx. 12 different SSDs for my workload. A few of those can be seen here.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...1/original.jpg

one of the major benefits of the 4 memory channels of the LGA-2011 socket. They allow decent read performance beyond any LGA-1155 cpu.
16.7 GB/sec
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...0/original.jpg

Combined workloads with a simultaneous load on the cpu and io subsystem proofed the value of watercooling. The stock and be quiet air coolers limited overall performance. Using a watercooler increased overall performance by 30% on the non-overclocked cpu.
1.3 mio iops with 20 ssd. cpu is limiting the io subsystem here.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...2/original.jpg

For flexibility and to facilitate many reconfigurations, i used long sata cables. Optically not nice, but useful.
This picture was taken when the stock vent was still on. wprime and super pi aren't taxing the CPU as heavily as for instance ycrunch, so the benefit of watercooling might not be as big.
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...8/original.jpg

This server was used for the record runs in ycrunch on calculating pi for 25, 50 and 100 billion digits in the category "single socket systems"
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5153478

The other 2 servers had different design goals. One was build for peak io performance on 2 sockets, utilizing 2 x E5-2687W, 256 GB and 48 ssd's. The goal with the third server was to get 72 terabyte capacity under 150 watt on the plug outlet using one E3-1245v2
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/...9/original.jpg

cheers,
Andy

I work in a supercumputing centre and I see a lot of crazy things, but this is still like :banana::banana::banana::banana: :D
09-07-2013, 12:18 PM
Nirvash

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Not exactly a server, but they are where I keep servers.
Attachment 131248
09-07-2013, 07:03 PM
Buckeye

That's at your home Nirvash ?

There are nice clean looking racks, what are they ?
09-08-2013, 02:50 PM
Nirvash

That is very much my home, they are HP racks, the logo is just cut off the top of the photos. They don't seem to have any model numbers on them, so I can't say exactly, I got both of them used without side panels for $120 :up:
Will probably post pictures with the doors open after doing so more cable management.
11-02-2013, 05:55 PM
Nirvash

1 Attachment(s)

Did I forget to post stuff... maybe. Or maybe I was just tweaking stuff...

Attachment 131721
11-02-2013, 06:32 PM
Duh

So much pr0nzzzz there
11-03-2013, 10:48 PM
kromosto

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

Remote desktop you say?

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps451d4f3b.png

I love that I just log in from my phone wherever I am :-)

Program rocks!

are these computers names? i will use this naming schema as well. do you have patented it?
11-04-2013, 05:50 AM
Kingcarcas

You guys are making me really think i need a "server".........:rofl:
11-16-2013, 05:53 AM
skycrane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcarcas

You guys are making me really think i need a "server".........:rofl:

Thats how we get you over to the dark side....young padawan....
11-16-2013, 01:37 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by kromosto

are these computers names? i will use this naming schema as well. do you have patented it?

lol

i used it becuase it makes sense, they are two of the same exact peices of hardware powered by one psu.

:) i dont care who uses, and like i could really stop you if i wanted
12-06-2013, 06:07 PM
skycrane

C6100 ive found more than a few of these on ebay and thought 3 is a nice round number to have, so i have one inbound for a late Dec delivery :)
so the question i have is does the OS see these as 4 different mobos, or 1 big one with 8 sockets?

how would i connect all 3 of them together? witha 24 port Gbit switch, or are these inifiniband?

it says they are dual Gbit nics on each node with 4 nodes per enclosure, but they are HPC nodes, so wouldnt that mean inifinband?

whats a mezanine card, and what are they used for?

would i be able to boot each rack off of one hdd, or does each node need its own? what bout when i get all 3 racks, can u boot all 3 from one hdd

ive got a ton more questions.. lol
12-06-2013, 06:12 PM
Buckeye

They are separate machines (nodes) and not one big one.

Nice setup tho :)
12-06-2013, 06:25 PM
skycrane

ahhh damnnn it would have been cool as hell to open up a task manager and see 64 threads running at 100% :)

prob should start a new thread, i dont want to hijack this one... lol
12-06-2013, 06:38 PM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by skycrane

ahhh damnnn it would have been cool as hell to open up a task manager and see 64 threads running at 100% :)

prob should start a new thread, i dont want to hijack this one... lol

I was going to say, think about how cool it would be to see that rig with L5639 or L5640's-96 threads cranking away!
12-06-2013, 06:48 PM
Buckeye

I am not sure if you can get MS cluster software to be able to do what you are wanting to do with crunching.
12-06-2013, 06:49 PM
skycrane

or these :) Xeon E7-8890 v2 15c 30t@2.8 GHz thats 120c/240t now i know they dont fit. but still.... a jaw dropping 672Ghz if intel crunching power.... now im over here drooling... lol

buckeye, well i do have the cluster disk just sitting here ready to be used.. hehe if not, i could always try and make a beuwolf cluster out of it. that would be fun to try
12-06-2013, 07:27 PM
Buckeye

Yeah I have it also, just need the hardware :)
12-19-2013, 03:09 PM
NKrader

two dual hexcore opteron! :) spent less than 350$ total on each one!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...psfnm7hiix.jpg
12-19-2013, 03:34 PM
Buckeye

Very nice. Supermicro also ! :)
12-19-2013, 04:34 PM
Kingcarcas

And electricity is pretty cheap up there, living the dream! :up:
12-20-2013, 07:49 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcarcas

And electricity is pretty cheap up there, living the dream! :up:

0.0882$ per/kWh

and they are both up and crunching, decided to get windows on both
12-20-2013, 08:03 AM
MadHacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

0.0882$ per/kWh

and they are both up and crunching, decided to get windows on both

I pay 0.0999$ per/kWh...
but after the extra fees on top, transmission fees and such it actually turns into about 0.18$ per/kWh
i just took my bill, and used the final cost and divided that by the kWh used.
gave me a more realistic cost of my power...

NKrader, how much do you actually pay?
12-20-2013, 08:23 AM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHacker

I pay 0.0999$ per/kWh...
but after the extra fees on top, transmission fees and such it actually turns into about 0.18$ per/kWh
i just took my bill, and used the final cost and divided that by the kWh used.
gave me a more realistic cost of my power...

NKrader, how much do you actually pay?

i can look at it later, but everywhere has fees and taxes so,
but you are from canada! lol.
i think there is a 10$ flat fee added to bill and such, but adding these crunching only raised my power bill by like 25$ a month I think.
12-20-2013, 12:10 PM
MadHacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

i can look at it later, but everywhere has fees and taxes so,
but you are from canada! lol.
i think there is a 10$ flat fee added to bill and such, but adding these crunching only raised my power bill by like 25$ a month I think.

yup the taxes are there.. but there are so many other charges on my electric bill, that it almost doubles the cost per kWh

and your systems must not pull much power...
My server pulls 276w idle and is costing me $36.86 a month to run. (according to battery backup program),
I think the 17 hard drives consume more power then I initially figured. also the MB/CPU are not ideal for power savings (Asus Maximus Extreme & Q6600) and then there are all those fans...

I plan to take a picture of it after Xmas, bought my wife a new camera... and have to wait until it gets unwrapped.
12-28-2013, 03:44 PM
NKrader

"Finished" one of them as i finally got the dimastech flex fan installed! yeah!

thinking about getting better psu for my dedicated crunchers tho.. these bronze ones make me sad. LOL

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps5z0fqakv.jpg
12-29-2013, 01:12 PM
Kingcarcas

Yes sir esp. if you only have a few, mine are just "80+ Certified" before they even came out with the Gold,Silver and Bronze :ROTF:
12-29-2013, 08:03 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcarcas

Yes sir esp. if you only have a few, mine are just "80+ Certified" before they even came out with the Gold,Silver and Bronze :ROTF:

looking at getting the seasonic 660 platinum for these guys, as im planning on keeping the chassis and psu to house my crunchers even if I sell the 12 core opteron boards it could make a little sense.
12-29-2013, 09:17 PM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

looking at getting the seasonic 660 platinum for these guys, as im planning on keeping the chassis and psu to house my crunchers even if I sell the 12 core opteron boards it could make a little sense.

Dude, you just missed at least two sales on the 660 Platinum PSU in the past month. They might have some end of the year sale this week, so keep on the lookout. Otherwise I see either the 660 or 7XX platinum for sale about once every 1.5-2 months.
01-03-2014, 01:23 AM
yojimbo197

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKrader

looking at getting the seasonic 660 platinum for these guys, as im planning on keeping the chassis and psu to house my crunchers even if I sell the 12 core opteron boards it could make a little sense.

Yo NKrader!
Seasonic 760W Platinum is on sale for 119.66 with a $20 rebate=$99.66
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...17151120-L011A
Jump on it!
02-05-2014, 03:24 PM
Duh

Nick that chassis looks superb. Which is it?
02-05-2014, 05:43 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duh

Nick that chassis looks superb. Which is it?

http://www.supermicro.com/products/c...sc732i-500.cfm
02-10-2014, 07:25 AM
L33T

My data center >___<

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...o/IMG_1704.JPG

Includes Active Directory, DNS, DHCP, OpenVPN, RADIUS (WPA2-Enterprise 802.1x), Minecraft, TF2, Sharepoint, IIS, Apache, SQL Server, and others!
03-27-2014, 05:08 PM
lowfat

Going to cross post this here since this is actually my ESXi server.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erverFT021.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erverFT023.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erverFT022.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erverFT025.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erverFT026.jpg
03-27-2014, 05:52 PM
Movieman

Now I know who to call when I wants something beautiful built..
Nice work lowfat! :up:
03-27-2014, 06:38 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowfat

Going to cross post this here since this is actually my ESXi server.

that is ridiculously slick! :p: :cool: :up:

are the HDD data cables plugged in, in those pics? :confused:
03-27-2014, 06:58 PM
NKrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

that is ridiculously slick! :p: :cool: :up:

are the HDD data cables plugged in, in those pics? :confused:

yep they are..

jesus lowfat.. im so jelly of everysingle computer you touch
03-27-2014, 07:23 PM
lowfat

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

that is ridiculously slick! :p: :cool: :up:

are the HDD data cables plugged in, in those pics? :confused:

Yes they are. They are Akasa Pro-slim cables that I have cut to length. Then used small bands of heatshrink to keep all the cables together. The come out directly at the SATA connections on the motherboard. Worked out perfectly.

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