AHCI failing at ~ 140MHz BCLK has nothing to do with the board itself, just a feature of Hudson FCHs.
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AHCI failing at ~ 140MHz BCLK has nothing to do with the board itself, just a feature of Hudson FCHs.
I see, though some reviews of various boards suggest AHCI failing sooner then that depending on board. The Asus here for example only gets to 106mhz before pooping itself - http://www.anandtech.com/show/5052/a...llano-at-120/2Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
There was a price drop today on the F1A75-V Pro, so I ordered. $88 after $10 rebate.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-F1A75-V-P...3664428&sr=8-1
Strong VRM (6+2), good cooling and board layout, and Stilt bios support... don't think you can go wrong
New "major" bios releases for F1A75 series inbound...
Changes: Support for A6-3670 and A8-3870 (GPU Boost) ;)
Stilt:
Does your custom BIOS help with the AHCI issues at all ? .. because judging from that Anand review i posted the Pro seems like a total waste of time as far as OCing Llano goes.. and the review mentions similar problems with other Asus A75 boards to. Then again the Gigabyte gets "marked down" even more for having memory compatibility issues to so I dont know.
To avoid AHCI issues altogether (in theory), why not just get yourself an A6-3670k instead of X4 631/651? 651s are nowhere to be found, and 631s are about $90. Its not much more to spend $30-40 to get that unlocked multiplier and avoid BLCK issues altogether. i think most AHCI issues come from everything getting out of sync once BLCK changes from 100MHz. Inventory shows that the Black Editions may be in stock this week
Also Anand probably did not try booting above 133MHz on the Asus. At 133MHz, an internal divider kicks in (like PCI dividers back in the day to keep it running at 33MHz) to make sure things aren't too far out of sync. He probably hit 130FSB and called it a day. Llano has lots of little strange quirks that not all reviewers may know about
So assuming I get BCLK above 133 its all good ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miwo
Yes, Llano is a strange beast indeed, i guess thats why im so curious about it. Its ether Llano or a 960T and cheap 990FX/970 mobo by the way ..
Re: the 3670K, none of my usual retailers I use even have them listed as pre order yet(Am in the UK) so its unlikely that they will show up before new year here.. thats to much of a wait for me.
Ahh gotcha. I am in a similar boat as well, I'm upgrading from a gd70 790fx / 720BE. I was considering the same exact setup as you (replace 720BE with 960T), or go with 970A mobo + 960T and wait for PD. I'm fascinated with Llano even though its end of life, and its something different... so I've settled on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
As far as the 133MHz divider, it may be something strange like 125-132MHz , no boot, 133MHz+ boot. New BIOS may certainly help, but there just isnt a whole lot of info out there. Not many people into LLano because its not really any better than Phenom II, and plus you have to deal these quirky issues after you change the BCLK. Check out some of these articles:
133MHz Dividers, tips, etc. http://www.overclockers.com/overcloc...mds-llano-apu/
Stilts own findings: http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29770
That overclockers.com link seems to suggest using AHCI at all when OCing Llano is a bad idea. Though this is the first ive read that says don't bother using it at all. Having an SSD working properly is important to me.. hwbot post seems to suggest that Asus boards are the best at dealing with the various BCLK oddity's so there is that ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Miwo
Also while i think of it. Will I have an issue with the Athlon 631 whereby on a A75 board that needs a bios update to support it it just will not work, or will it at least allow me to boot for such an update with an unsupported processor ?
SSD will work perfectly as IDE. The performance will be the same as AHCI, and there is TRIM support, using the native Windows driver. So, for overclocking a FM1 board, I'll suggest setting the controller as IDE. There is nothing but placebo effects to lose.
On the other hand, I wouldn't go for the 631. The only use for FM1 is the integrated GPU. If you are going to buy a discrete GPU, you'll be better with a 960T and try to unlock the cores, even 1 would be great. And it could hit 4.0Ghz easily.
My 2 cents.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
But like I said, up to 140MHz BCLK atleast AHCI should not be a problem.
I donīt know what and how Anand tested, but I can do around 144MHz before AHCI fails.
Gotten some good feedback on here so getting to the time i need to have a good idea of what id be actually buying if I was to go Llano.How does this look for a off the top of my head "balanced" Llano based core for a build ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Athlon II X4 631
Asus F1A75-V EVO
8GB Corsair DDR3 Vengeance LP 1600
Asus GTX 560 DirectCU TOP or ATI 6870 ?.. my usual retailer doesn't have much selection of these though, and this particular 560 is almost a 560 Ti with the factory OC so is good value. Would a 6950 be overkill with such a build ?
And again since none has answered, with the FM1 Athlon and the board above, will it at least boot for me to update bios if an old bios is on it ? dont want to end up if i was to do this having to buy a second CPU to get the first to work.. I nearly had to do this the last time i built AMD.
Personally I see no point in purchasing a FM1 CPU without the integrated GPU in it.
Anyway FM1 Athlons are Llanos with the GPU disabled so they will work just like a normal APU would.
IIRC Asus sets primary graphics to "NB PCI-E" by default so posting with a separate GFX will not be a problem.
On the other hand why pay the extra for a FM1 CPU with a GPU if you are not using it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
I have a very unusual situation with the planning of this new computer that has meant I am having to have backup plans for even my backup plans, and the FM1 build is basicly one of the backup plans.
Trying to keep things on topic to just asking in this thread about the FM1 stuff, hence not realy going into to much detail about those issues though as this is not the forum topic for such things.
631 will probably have no issues booting. Support has been available for some time for this chip. I will probably encounter the same potential problem with the a6-3670k or x4 651. Don't know if it will boot up from the getgo since technically they aren't even out yet.
IMO, theres no point going with the EVO unless you plan on running Crossfire. The Pro is pretty much the same, with the exception of dual x16 PCIe on the EVO. I didn't see SLI support mentioned on any A75 chipset boards, so i am assuming its not supported. Being "balanced" is really subjective and depends what your needs are. Care less whether or not people think your system is 'balanced' or not
Even OCed and a 560/560Ti or 6870/6890 im not going to need much in the way of wattage on a PSU right for a Llano build ?
Was thinking 500 - 600W should more then cover it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
which are the best FM1 micro atx boards?
i wanna go with the ASUS F1A75-M PRO but they are usually the most expensive ones....
how is the GIGABYTE GA-A75M-UD2H?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128511
how is the BIOSTAR TA75M?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138333
are the Asus boards worth the extra cash?
do u think the new K series llanos will fix AHCI issues when changing BCLK?
UD2H seems to get good reviews in terms of raw overclocking capability bit basic of a board for me though and i prefer ATX to MATX. The Biostar boards have very little in the way of in depth reviews or feedback same realy goes for any A75 boards other then the Gigabyte or Asus ones it seems. If i do the Llano thing at this stage id be most likely going Asus EVO, althogh Asrocks Extreme 6 does look rather nice for a premium A75 board, but not much in the way of reviews and such for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
Well kind of... Since you are able to keep the BCLK at 100MHz :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
looks like we have to wait until after Christmas for unlocked
http://www.techpowerup.com/156834/26...cked-APUs.html
On a side note, the price of the F1A75-V Pro has dropped a lot in the past week. $80 after 10 rebate on Amazon now
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-F1A75-V-P...3963484&sr=8-2
The Stilt, where I can find your last BIOS for F1A75 boards? Thx (need one for 3870k :) )
Any recommendations for an quiet, easy to install(using stock AMD retention ideally) air cooler for a lil Llano ?
Been looking at the Corsair A50, seems about as simple as it can be although the retention looks like it leaves the cooler able to wriggle a little on top of the CPU with the cooler fixed in place, same with the Coolermaster 212 EVO, and the EVO looks more fiddly to install.
Very difficult with Intel's domination as it were to find cooler reviews going in detail on the AMD side of things fitting wise.
The unlocked GPU clock is the thing that makes A8-3870 so great.
Iīve been using 900MHz SCLK in 24/7 use for months without any problems on air cooling.
Most of the games are fully playable even at stock clocks, let alone at 900MHz.
The only downside on Llano is the limited memory bandwidth.
To get the every last bit of performance out of the APU your MEMCLK needs to be roughly 200MHz higher than the GPU (SCLK) clock (in games). In benchmarks the optimal MEMCLK-SCLK ratio is even higher, 250-300MHz+.
While SCLK operating at 900MHz the optimal MEMCLK is already around 1100MHz.
Here is the best run I could do on air (in 25c ambient):
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2223751
SCLK at 970MHz the DRAM is a bottle neck even at 1250MHz...
Obviously I was just testing the GPU part as CPU clocks do not matter in 3DMark11.
Unfortunately the GPU part in my chip has a severe cold bug so no gains at sub zero.
I have not seen or heard about a cold bugged Llano before so I need to try with another chip.
These unlocked Llano's are so tempting to wait for,however id be worried about being able do a first boot with them on a box fresh board with an older bios, which if it did fail would would mean getting an older Llano to get the thing to boot for a BIOS update so i figure with the very low CPU costs involved I may as well build with non unlocked CPU and pick up a unlocked in a few months..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Also been looking at a 960T setup again, Llano appeals to me because its kinda weird and interesting though.. ideally id wait for Trinity as that does look awesome indeed from what ive seen but I cant wait that long, my current system barely plays the likes of BF3 and SW:TOR on lowest settings and there is no way I can put this build off for another few months as a result.
Have you been able to test the Max CPU overclock on your 3870k? Interested to see how high this can go without worrying about the GPU component.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
For the CPU part there is nothing new.
They do pretty much the same as the previous Llanos, 3870s are just binned a bit higher.
IIRC the highest CPU frequency I could use in 24/7 use was around 3.6G /w 1.41V.
You can do quick benches like 3DMark11 at 3.8G+ but then you will need to bump up the voltage heavily.
Llano was never designed to reach high CPU clocks, even it is based on Stars.
I donīt think it is the 'tuning' they made that makes it overclock worse than e.g Deneb, but the reduced power delivery (FM1 vs. AM2/3) and the crappy 32nm manufacturing process GF currently offers.
Would have loved to see Llano made by TSMC instead of GF (even with 40nm).
Donīt get me wrong, I still LOVE Llanos ;)
That's a shame! More bad news here also: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5257/a...83870k-a83670k
These "K"s only allow for a partial unlock of 5x multiplier higher than stock! (35x for 3870k, 32x for 3670k ???)
I guess it was unreasonable to expect miracles from GF..,.. Llanos weren't really held back by bus speeds after all :( . I already have a F1A75V Pro though, so I will still go ahead with my LLano build. Thanks for the info as always Stilt
So if im doing Llano i may as well stick with the non unlocked parts as it has little effect on helping with OCing the CPU side at least in the end ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Trinity should have been AMDs priorty for this year instead of DozyDozer.
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miwo
As far as I know these are fully unlocked, up to 47x...
However I need to double check...
do you have Engineering Sample or Retail Chip? 35x 133 is still 4.5GHz potential, but moot if we aren't going to get anywhere close to that if they clock the same as unlocked parts like the 3850
My chip should be retail, atleast I was told so and the batch code also indicates that.
I just double checked, the chip is unlocked up to 47x (or 63x... - CPU) and the GPU is unlimited too.
The only thing is that is limited is the MainPLL (47x), but that makes no difference.
AMD press information sheet said "up to 500MHz CPU overclock" and "up to 200MHz GPU overclock".
This is being the typical overclock on "K" parts not any kind of actual limitation ;)
ok tyvm for the clarification :). Anand jumping to conclusions by saying "Partial" and Firestorm ensues
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/t...20_500296.html
google translate
http://translate.google.com/translat...20_500296.html
says it unlocks to 47x multi
Anand already corrected his article :D
Fully unlocked :D
When do these go on sale?
Pretty close to pulling the trigger here so how does this look for a Llano build ?
*Screen shot of saved Scan shopping basket*
http://picpaste.com/Untitled_2.jpg
Still working on case and CPU cooling..
Personally I would swap the memory for something faster.
Llano supports DDR-1866 by default and the MEMCLK makes a huge difference on it especially if you use the integrated graphics.
Noted, though Scan does not stock any 1866+ 8GB kits with low profile head spreaders (I *hate* stupid big heat spreaders with a vengeance heh)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
First 3870k review?
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...#content_start
They didn't really get any higher than a regular 3850. 3.74GHz max that they tested. Translate German > English
A4 3300@2950MHz :( , 2200C6 1.67v. :D
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3527/99658546.th.png
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6752/43446384.th.png
1.67 real or is that what is set in bios?
Nice! ;D
3670k and 3870k are up on Newegg. $129/$144 respectively
where are the OC reviews?
edit:
http://translate.google.com/translat...k_llano_apu%2F
well at least u can OC the gpu from 600mhz to 800mhz...but cpu only got to 3.5ghz hmm waiting for more tests....
I have yet to see an OC review in the hands of a review site that really knows the oddities and quirks when it comes to overclocking Llano. I think most give up after SATA SSD craps out in AHCI mode when upping BCLK, or just change multiplier to 35x and call it a day. Consider that Stilt maxed out at 3.8 with high voltage, and 3.6GHz daily in his previous post. Like he said, this platform was never meant to OC like AM3/+
Heres one , but for Linux only. Not really that useful to me...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...a8_3870k&num=1
Probably going to get the 3670k instead of 3870k. Don't need the higher stock graphics clock + shaders, so mind as well save a little bit of money :)
Ouch, check out this thread at Coolaler. 3.8GHz @ 1.71v O_O
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...veNKL8MSDHJPuQ
after New Year Im here with 3870K and can try it. Any special BIOS for F1A75-V PRO and 3870K APU?
Received some more 3870 chips..
They acted exactly the same as the first chip under sub zero temperatures so I became a bit suspicious.
It seems that it is not a cold bug causing the trouble but the new AGESA version.
Most likely the new version synchronizes some other frequency with the SCLK.
Obviously this other frequency (LCLK most likely) cannot tolerate frequencies high enough to reach the SCLK limits.
This is most likely the case since Iīve heard reports about poor SCLK overclockability on Asrock and MSI boards.
Need to get some more info.
So even with A6-3670 and A8-3870 APUs please use the old bios versions (eg. 0802TS for F1A75-M PRO).
Will be receiving my 3870K and F1A75-V Pro (what a deal@Amazon!) tomorrow; hope it does better than the 3850.
Well it won't,only in gpu department :) What deal did you had?
$58 After $10 rebate for a top end FM1 board on Amazon (US only probably)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-F1A75-V-P...5086300&sr=8-1
:p: I just hope it's a little easier to OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Well, the board is $58.92 after rebate, almost half the price at newegg. :)
Soo
Trying to find a nice 8GB 1866+ kit which doest have stupid large heat spreaders and will play nice with Llano ( I want something low profile like Kingston HyperX,Corsair Low Profile etc. i.e no extra hight on the PCB) is proving difficult. Am in the UK.. any suggestions anyone ?
ASUS F1A75-M PRO/CSM
what is this csm model?
A "Corporate Stable Model".Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
100% identical with the normal F1A75-M PRO but the CSM bios uses eased timings and NCLK compared to the non-CSM bios.
Lol....
so is the 3870k worth it?
i figure i could get at least 3.6ghz and 800mhz gpu (air cooling on an old xigamatek S-1283 and a Corsair 530w psu)
got some extra rams kits to test... 2000 and 1866... anxious to try out memory OC with llano...haven't played with new IMC yet ;)
its to bad the AM3+ 9 series mobos don't come in any Micro-Atx versions (spar case is Micro-Atx only)
otherwise id get a fx-4100 for some OC fun.
looks like ill go the llano route maybe... any new bios coming out for the ASUS F1A75-M PRO for the black editions? hopefully we'll see some more OC reviews asap. these newegg gift cards a burning a whole in my wallet ;)
First off, my setup:
Asus F1A75-V Pro with A8-3870K (XSPC Rasa), GSkill RipjawsX, HDD set to IDE
Initial thoughts:
1. Flashed the latest 2001 BIOS for the F1A75-V Pro and the CPU frequency at POST is always off. It keeps changing with each reset; however, once it boots into Windows, the correct frequency is displayed. I have the same issue with Stilt's modified 1102 BIOS - if this is already known, do disregard.
2. I seem to be able OC better with the 2001 BIOS, i.e. at the same settings, I get POST with 2001 but not 1102.
3. There still doesn't seem to be any monitoring software that reads temps accurately; not even AI Suite's sensors.
4. To boot at 38 multi seems to require a lot of vcore, a lot more than 37.
5. I get BIOS freezes after a bad OC; not sure why. Didn't happen with the Gigabyte board. Also, tried different BCLKs (133MHz, 140MHz, 161MHz, 166MHz) with no success at getting a higher OC with lower multi.
So far (been playing around for about two hours), the best I can do is 103x37=3.811GHz at 1.57vcore/1.3NB (LLC at high), mem at 961.5MHz. It is 2D but not 3D stable.
I'd welcome any suggestions! TheStilt? (I got the Asus board because of your excellent modified BIOS and expertise!) ;)
Might move over to the Gigabyte A75M-UD2H next.
^^ Basically the same setup I just ordered, V Pro, 3870K, Gskill RipjawsX 8gb 1333 7-7-7 (hope they are still BFR).
Do share your OC results when you get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil
And look here! http://www.techpowerup.com/157726/AM...icide-Run.html
Im really hoping I can get 4 daily, but Id live with 3.8 if I had to.
The BE Llanos are now in stock so want to finalise this build asap. Anyone able to point in the right direction for the above ?Quote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr.../dp/B00592002WQuote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
Try and find those?
So a Low Voltage 1600 kit should get me a fair bit of headroom memory OC wise on Llano then ? as trying to find a 1866+ kit with low profile head spreaders is next to impossible I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil
Interested to hear more on this as I was looking at the Asus F1A75 EVO but if there are issues with that and A8-3870K I may go Gigabyte A75 UD2/UD4 or Asrock A75 Extreme6 instead..Quote:
Originally Posted by veblen
there are a few....corsair, kingston, mushkinQuote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104277
not sure if u can find them in the UK
They are the new 30nm Samsung ICs that a few around here have gotten to 2400+.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
I can get these via Amazon US international shipped.. the 1333 40nm version ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PC3-10...5349911&sr=8-1
Thats all I can seemingly get of the Samsung stuff.
Also found some Corsair LP 1866 -
http://www.porthale.co.uk/products.a...8GX3M2A1866C9R
Its not the same, so wouldnt bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1nn3r
Yeah, the 40nm stuff doesn't OC like the 30nm Samsung.
The 1333 CL9 30nm kit however is just as good as the 1600 CL11 ;D
Probably will have to go with the Corsair LP kit then,even though its the wrong colour (which sounds lame but tweaks my OCD a bit)
Really find it frustrating that company's insist on putting those stupid large heat spreaders on everything but the low end modules for the most part. Messes with cooler compatibility and really for the most part is just there for brand differentiation and to look pretty. G.Skill used to be really good for not doing this, but even they have gotten in on the act in recant years it seems.
Why do you think they put them on there?
To keep the modules cool...
DDR3 doesnt get all that hot unless you are really pushing it was my understanding of why HS's are more of a cosmetic thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
But then again since Llano seems to love memory being pushed hard maybe there is some merrit here, however still doesn't solve the issue of the large spreaders making cooler compatibility a headache.
Stress test high performance memory at 1.65v or above and you'll know what I'm talking about. 70c is easy to do on any kit, even with a heatspreader, without enough airflow...
I have little experience in memory overclocking beyond any clock and voltage increase that may be as a direct result of a CPU OC. The Intel platforms ive owned over the years haven't really benefited hugely from in depth memory tweaking ether so for me its just been more or less set it and forget it. Hence no issues with heat i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
It looks like Llano may change this with its general quirkiness and seeming hunger for memory speed. So I guess ill have to keep that in mind.
Also I could go corsair H80 option for cooling and make the HS height a moot point, but then an Ģ80 cooler on a Ģ100 CPU seems a little unbalanced budget wise and my past experience with the H series (H50) was not a good one overall..
I ordered the GA-A75m-UD2H, let y'all know how it goes..
I've had one in my media center for 6 months or so. No trouble with it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by gkiing
--Matt
Does anyone know if the samsung DDR3 1600 low voltage 30nm (1.35v) kit works well with Llano?
They should work fine. I currently have a pair of GSkill Ecos (1.35v DDR3-1600) running at 1866MHz in the UD2H and it's been running fine for the past four months as my HTPC.
Haven't had any RAM compatibility issues with Llano at all.
I have two sets of Ecos too. Could you please tell me your settings? (Mem timings, voltages used)Quote:
Originally Posted by veblen
The ECOs are low voltage, but they arent 30nm Samsungs, very different stuff.
Though that doesnt mean the Samsungs wouldnt play nice with Llano, they should do perfectly fine with it. If the Hynix stuff I have coming doesnt OC well, Ill be trying the 30nm Sammys next.
received the 3870k and Asus F1A75-M Pro mobo today.
i see on asus website there is the newest bios 1903 should i being using the latest one?
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...870k_setup.jpg
will update and start OC'in once i finish updating everything
need a little help with bios settings...make sure i got everything set correctly.....
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0105045313.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0105045338.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0105045427.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0105045406.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...K_first_OC.png
which setting adjusts gpu voltage?
edit: fyi im running windows 8 beta...
VDDNB is GNB + CNB on Asus boards, i.e GPU too.
Like said before if you want proper clocks for GPU use old bios (0802 for M PRO).
New bioses OC like ****.
Tbone,
Out of curiosity, so you have a Gigabit LAN and, if so, is the onboard nic working properly? I've had 3 of these things and the LAN hasn't worked properly on any of them regardless which drivers I use. I ended up getting an intel pci-e nic for board 3.
--Matt
so the VDDNB setting is on auto should go above 1.150?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
what about APU1.2v Voltage setting? (is this the one that adjust gpu volts?)
what cpu voltage should i be setting at about? i just started at 1.45v (in bios) as a base to play around with @3.5ghz
should i even touch vdda voltage? what about Cpu LLC? put it on high or extreme?
jsut trying to find a good base to start at.
also in the third bios screen should i disable C6, CPB, AMD powernow, SVM, C-state Pmin?
yah i may go back to 0802 bios as hwmonitor temps r haywire...
should i use k10stat?
i left it running at work overnight to let it settle in...will do some more tuning tomorrow
EDIT: man i have alot to learn with llano ;)
i haven't had any issues downloading or surfing the web yet, i updated to the latest driver of the asus website, ill check speeds and play around with it tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattkosem
Let me know what you find. The issue that I experience is, in essence, a drop-out after transferring a certain amount of data. On a gigabit switch, I was able to make it through 15-30MB transferred, then nothing else would communicate. The link state remained correct, and was identified correctly if I reseated the cable, but wouldn't communicate anymore until I rebooted. On 100Mbit lan, the drop-out occurred somewhere in the 600MB range, with the same symptoms past that point. I tried quite a few cables, two gigabit and two 100Mbit switches and found the same results across the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
--Matt
Bit of an update..
The difficultly im having in finding suitable 1866 memory is making me look at the 960t option again.
transferred a bunch of large and small files to and from my drobo and it seems ok no drop outs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattkosem
reload fresh copy of realtek driver and check settings...i would check advanced properties of the nic....check wake on LAN setting
double post
Got my board today, should have it together here soon.
Nice! Guess I just, somehow, got 3 boards in a row from different sources with the same problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
--Matt
so i was able to do a quick session today with my new 3870k, i got it a little better than before, still trying to figure out bios settings...
any help to guide me in the right direction would be much appreciated ;)
still testing most current bios 1903...will test 0802 soon when i get the hang of it. (hopefully this bios will be better for OC)
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0107054335.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0107054354.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...0107054359.jpg
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...3870k_OC_2.png
my chip doesn't like much past 3600mhz/900mhz :(
ran wprime and cinebench 11.5 cpu/openGL benchs a bunch of times...
any bios settings i can tweak better?
edit: running 2x4gb G.skill Snipers 1866 9-10-9-28 kit, Xigmatek s1283 push pull heatsink (fans are on max) and corsair 530w psu
Have you tried using discrete to see if you get any further?
What about different combinations? Does the Asus board have the bus divider at 133BLCK+ ? Any way of testing that?
I have a Biostar board on the way with a 3670k
I got 3.5Ghz running prime so far, 1.45Vcore. Tried 3.6 with up to 1.525Vcore, and 1.25V VDDNB, and it gives the ".5 expected .4 or less" on the first core instantly.
You can probably leave the core voltage alone for the most part on air, and just increase the Nb and APU 1.2 voltage. At most of the lower clock speeds for these chips those are two places that seem demand the most under load. On the 3850's you could increase the vcore instead of increasing the north bridge and APU 1.2voltage. This is only effective till the mid 4.5ghz range, this only works if you are using it purely for 2d. If you try to get it to work this way under 3d operations using the IGP it will be voltage starved and crash.
The 3870k's seem to have less problems with voltage loads across the cores and IGP, than the 3850's did so it makes some of the work with this chip alot easier.
At 3.5 it was also throttling cores back to 2.7 with all power saving stuff disabled, and the CPU and NB set to 130%. Temps hit 61C.
At 3.5 it was also throttling cores back to 2.7 with all power saving stuff disabled, and the CPU and NB set to 130%. Temps hit 61C.
What temperature monitoring software / clock reading sw are you using to check info and throttling Cecil?
HWmonitor TMPN0 for CPU temp, the core temp readings are way off. And coretemp shows the speed of ever core.
3.4Ghz stable with 1.425Vcore and default everything else. For 3.5 Ive tried up to 1.525Vcore, 1.33 APU, and 1.37 VDDNB. Its always the first core that drops out before the first pass of Prime.
I'll fire up my asus board later and see what i can find for the setting i know i found a way to prevent the throttling its just not that straight forward of an option.
Also its not abnormal for core temps to be strange on llanos, showing values of 0c, 11c, 16c, stuff like that. Its part of the power management. I believe its gating the core on and off based on load.