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yeah that's not going to fit...
That's what she said.Quote:
Originally Posted by hazardous
haha i gave up on this card, it's never coming out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
im happy i bought a 6970 a month ago... that is until crysis 2 comes out.
but even 2x6990 will fail at that
I'm bored of this card by now. Overhyped and undelievered it will be and add very delayed to the list. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the itty bitty fan isn't going to do a good job at cooling the behemoth of a card.
she would say that if you'd stop trying to fit in her ear...Quote:
Originally Posted by StickyRICE
Fixed :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
One could say the same about the GTX590. Either way, I just want one of the two to come out. As far as cooling goes, I only water cool, so they could put a 40mm fan on there for all I could care.Quote:
Originally Posted by tdream
:ROTF::ROTF::rofl::rofl::ROTF::ROTF::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by eXa
Real question will be more, if it's enough to cool the massive vapor chamber ... At same time, it's reference cards, for more go for Sapphire Toxic, Asus and other non reference design for cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by tdream
It's going to take a while to get the first blocks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
I've basically given up waiting on this, probably will hold out for Kepler at this point... aren't we seeing next gen in another few months already on 28nm?
Q3-Q4 for high-end most likely, AFAIK.
Thanks, and sorry for the slight derail there. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
28nm supposedly got pushed back to at least Q4, who knows with TSMC, and who knows if a high end card will come out on the new node immediately either at this point
TSMC's really slowed things down
O_O that is without a doubt, larger then my 4850x2
well it definitely should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by masterg
i was sad to see how much smaller a 6970 was compared to my 4850x2
Some people will have a hard time fitting that thing in their car on the way home. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by gatecrasherlok
Why are we trying to fit a 6990 in a woman's ear? or rear?
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Originally Posted by ripken204
sure about that???
I get 300 fps on 6970 CF..... really 6990?
i was being sarcastic...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
but im betting a single 6990 cant do it.
my 6970 is getting ~30fps playing Crysis 1
people here tend to like ~60FPS gaming, so with a 6990 on Crysis 1 it should be possible to play Crysis 1 at 60FPS very high settings on a large monitor, 2560x1440 in my case
Crysis 2 will be even more demanding... so we will see
Early reports suggest it wont be more demanding than crysis 1.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/539/2560.png
I think that these dual GPU's are coming a little too late ... and with some specs a little under the "bar" ...
This generation of chips is very powerful ( well, +-, Nvidia yes ... AMD so so ) but they are power hungry ... and hot ...
So... the good times of GTX 295 and 5970 ... meh ... i don't see these new solutions being as good in practical terms as the old ones ( yes, they will be quicker, but i don't believe it will have the same "equilibrium" )
That's DirectX 9. What about DirectX 11? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RaV666
those preliminary crysis performance numbers should be taken with a truck load of salt so don't be to fast to count them as the norm....Quote:
Originally Posted by RaV666
Well, theres few things to consider.
a.) Thats a beta so its probably LESS optimized, retail should perform better
b.) In DX11 mode there can be a performance HIT, however, some things DX11 should do more efficiently.
c.) Crysis 2 was built from ground up to be multiplatform, that limits its engine use greatly, crysis 1 would just not run on xbox or ps3.
Taking all this into equation, logical conclusion would be it probably wont be more hardware demanding than crysis 1 (which still is most demanding title in my book,metro is just plain wrong coded, doesnt offer much for its painfully slow rendering)
But thats ofcourse just my opinion ;-).
Anyhow, you still would need dual gpu solution to play it on highest settings with highest resolution ay ~60FPS.
They should actually be quite a bit better since both CF and SLI scaling have improved. While they might be a little late, the next refresh probably will not happen till the fall so you should get around 6 months of use before you see new cards out and based on how long it was between the last dual GPU's and these I would imagine it will be about 2 years before these are replaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Postmodum
and hopefully like the last dual gpus, these will also last over 2 years and be able to max out almost any gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
no doubt. I am keeping my 5970 for a while, it maxes out any game I play in eyefinity so i will probably wait to upgrade a pair of 680s when they come out, or a dual 6xx card.Quote:
Originally Posted by ripken204
Yeah, I'm going to wait every two gen before making an upgrade, I survived on an Intel GMA 950 for 4 years at any rate....
This generation suffered by being stuck on TSMC's 40nm process.
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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650
As it seems they have use the " leaked " crysis2 version, i will not even consider thoses numbers whatever is the reason, as i just don't know how they have been able to run a bench on it in good condition .. it's an old alpha release, bugged as hell, sound is not working correctly, you get the debug who kick time to time.. missing textures etc etc.. performance can be better or worse, impossible to know before get the final version.
you sir are a trooper..... i just might die in your position.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyshaw
ya thats kinda what I was trying to get at. my personal experience with the alpha version was I was only able to play the first level and even so it was the most buggy game thing I have ever seen. textures missing all over the place and whatnot. I was able to get it running on another machine as well but that lasted literally 5 seconds before it crashed. and it never worked on any of my systems using ATI cards....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
I decided to stop trying to make it work because I would rather wait for the full version where I can get the full experience including the story all at once... one thing I did notice however is that the game has been somewhat consolized :(
back on topic though a 6990 should have no issues maxing this game out Crytek has said multiple times that it won't be much harder to run than Warhead
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...post1036900633
Kyle has the card :woot:
Sic, indeed a long card. And what's up w/ the case?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by kaktus1907
To bad there wasn't any revealing info in his article. I've never agreed with how HardOCP reviews as their definition of playable is to 1990s for me so him saying the framerate would make you smile doesn't mean much to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaktus1907
I think the info was, reviewers allready get the 6990 in their hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
They have a different approach of other review sites that's sure.
I mean sometimes their choice are a bit discutable.. but anyway they test resolution you rarely see.. 5760x1200.
but one example.. you see them use 16xCSAA and you read: this was the max quality, but in reality 16xCSAA is less demanding of 8x MSAA... on Nvidia cards.
Here's a comparaison of framerate with the different AA mode published on Nvnews GTX580 review... ( can differ from a game to another )
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2372/bc2graph.jpg
Thanks kaktus :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by kaktus1907
this offering seems to have the gpus further apart than the 5970, maybe this will improve its cooling capacity
Where's Sam ? something to say about AMD have cancel the HD6990 cause they was to affraid of the 590 ?
BREAKNG NEWS!
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Sam oslo comments on the news that Kyle from hard ocp has the 6990:
Reporter -What do you say of this news sam ?
Sam_Oslo -Amd just tries to steal GTX590`s thunder and glory by releasing some "info" about their "cards" through their "friends", its unfortunately futile attempt as GTX 590 Will crush AMD and it will probably mean the end for them.
Actualy, the fact that it became an article at [H] makes me think, it's an AMD sanctioned preview. Like the SB preview at Anandtech. So the launch might not be next week, but the card definitely exists, is ready and they are waiting for... ?
whats funny about this is Nvidia tried doing the same thing with the release of the 5 series ..to keep people holding out for fermi..Quote:
Originally Posted by RaV666
also price is as important as performance. So regardless how fast the "590" may be if its $1000 then only a small portion will actually buy this card and amd will continue to make money off their much cheaper priced cards.
whats even funnier is nvidia failed even more by waiting 6-8 months to shove it out the doorQuote:
Originally Posted by InCredible
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RaV666
spot-on :yepp::D
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6692/54924994.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6128/47203434.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5440/63657186.jpg
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=29248Quote:
300GB/s of combined memory bandwidth
3,000-plus shaders
4GB of onboard memory
Needs new node
Based on that info it is infact 2 Cayman XT cores likely around 750-775 on the core / shaders ( my educated guess based on plausible power consumption ) and 1175 (4700) or so on the memory. Performance wise pending drivers it should be positioned between 6950 and 6970 setups with an msrp of 649-699USD ( help might be 600 but dual gpu cards always get marked up it seems )
At this point it will be who strikes first and who's more competitive. Let's just hope the 6990 isn't a 4870 x2 rev 2 ( extremely loud and anti al gore )
The guy that did the 6990 preview for Hard OCP said the card he received from AMD is different than this with a middle blower... :shrug:
his has a middle blower, or it doesnt? got a link to the comment?
What's funny is that everyone has been whining about why isn't it released and now that release is imminent now it's "It's going to be too expensive anyway"...Quote:
Originally Posted by InCredible
Here is the link. There was no comment about middle blower.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Brent_Justice reply about some pictures posted at the Hard Forum.
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I dunno what that's a picture of, but it's not the card I have /shrug
NDA ends 8th of March
huum? and i was think they will wait Nvidia release the 590. look like not finally.
Different heatsink revisions probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
Finally some more details of this 6990. ATI should slap another fan to cool down the card, especially there is two GPU's, one just isn't really cutting it.
I think it's a different set of people who do either.Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceeded
The fan in the middle makes it look pretty ugly...
So March, 8th is official, then? Sounds great! :D
That thing looks at least 5cm longer than 6970, btw.
March 8th.
This design is better, with the fan in between the two GPU'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
https://sites.google.com/site/apokalipse/6990fan.png
9 days and counting. I cannot wait and hopefully it will be around $600. If it launches at a $600 price I will order it the first day. Then I will just have to wait for a new water block.
Guys guys... there is a reason why the fan is in the middle...
It's so they wouldn't have to grind down one of the 8 pin connectors by half to fit the cooler :D
On XFX 5970 Black Edition, fan in middle is VERY loud:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...tige_messungen
XFX 5970 BE Bottom, and 5970 reference top:
http://pics.computerbase.de/3/0/7/8/2/15.jpg
HD6990:
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articl...dsGq_1_1_l.jpg
Noise won't bother me in the least once it goes under water. :D
Yeah you're right to be fair. Kind of annoying seeing that kind of post in threads like this. If you can't afford it why bother posting about it!? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Apokalipse
I'll be getting one as I'm WAAAAY overdue a graphics card upgrade (and I finally want to be able to play Crysis :ROTF:) and I've worked hard enough to treat myself :).
EDIT - as above of course it'll be watercooled :D
hold on their cowboy..im not complaining about pricing..i have purchased more then a few $550-600 gpu's..Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceeded
all i was doing is replying to another post. So read before you start saying people are annoying for making logical posts or saying they cant afford something. Cause THAT's annoying. :rolleyes:
The era of DUAL 8 PIN....has arrived.
Kind of disproportionate looking at the rig in sig? :p: Bottlenecked like crazy, and you're probably going to need a new PSU. :nuts:Quote:
Originally Posted by eXceeded
that seems to be set by the PSU who i hope know best for delivering power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stukov
i always found it weird how every decent PSU has a 6 pin, with the 2 extra pins just being chained off other ones. but i guess they have high enough gauged wires to handle the load. and now they dont mind doubling that number again on that PSU, id love to see how warm those wires get though.
Look shorter of what i have think, if i compare how the card go through the SATA, it dont look a lot longer of 5870.
Lol the system in my signature died a LONG time ago, I haven't gotten round to replacing it yet. I essentially have the basis for a watercooled system with no components in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
Waiting for BD before I get a CPU/motherboard/memory and waiting for Antilles before getting a GPU/PSU lol.
EDIT - LOL my signature even says I'm still using Vista :rotf:
EDIT 2 - Jeeeez that's one biiiiig card!!!
I think this board is not ATX ( more something like XL-ATX)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
It's the Gigabyte X58A-OC , but need say you give me a doubt if the board usw XL ATX or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karam
Edit: not if i quote Bit- tech preview of this board .. " The board has the standard ATX dimensions of 263.5 x 304.8mm, and the heatsinks surrounding the CPU socket and X58 chipset are designed to be easily popped off and replaced with copper pots for LN2."
Well not really important, we will get enough time for see how long is this card when review will show up.
Looking like AMD is going to once more push out a dual gpu product with extra headroom as evidenced by the dual 8pin setup. Nothing says they can't design a part capable of handling electrical and thermal loads above >300, it just can't require that much power at stock. Likely where Powertune shows its face once more. I'm guessing they might just sneak up on 6970 core / shader clocks if they are excetionally binned cores.
I'm sure many who buy these will water cool them but I am concerned with how viable the stock cooling will be. I'm getting the impression that overclocking on the stock sink will be asking for trouble unless ones content with >9000RPM fan speeds :rolleyes: I've owned 2 dual gpu cards, 1 of which was on water so my opinion isn't misinformed.
All that in mind, if the stock sink manages to handle overclocked loads without sounding like small helicopter, I'll be damn impressed.
again, this is the stock cooler, i believe if you want OC with a stock cooler, the non references cards who will come just after the release of the cards, as the one designed by Sapphire and other should be more appealing for overclocking.
Anyway i join you on this: anybody who want OC a dual gpu cards, should look to watercool them. silent ( well depend what fans/rad you are using ), the cards stay cool, on idle, when you watch a movie, when you play, when you push them. The ambient air in your pc stay cool, no worry to have about dust and degradation of the coolers.
Noone posted up this yet?
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...0-in-our-lab/1
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8066/22046342.jpg
GIGABYTE :clap: This dog is sweating :rofl:
lol :ROTF:
Only one fan huh? Mhhh
These cards are being released too late to be relatively decent purchases. Both NV and AMD are known to kick back driver development when an new generation is out. Considering these card(amd and NV) are both too big and too expensive to produce, I think when 28nm comes out, they are going to let it get replaced ASAP. Your going to have less than year of full driver development if AMD and NV cut back driver development with the release of new cards. Considering how long it took for the 5970 to have stable drivers(10.4), these card would have been a lot better to be released last year, but now it too sketchy in terms of future software and hardware stability.
These are indeed very late too the party, just hope that the drivers are good out of the gate as there is no rule that every card needs the same amount of development time with driver support.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
late yes, but.. i don't know, I don't think we will see anything before Q4.. so this leave, 8-9months good for them. It's not shorter of the 470-480 or 460 life. And if both cards deliver, whatever it is Nvidia or AMD, the guys who got it, will not really need change it on Q4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjn6DoxOwso
Petty the demo isn't running :(
Edit: Here playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NCFRgzqtoM 6990 + Dirt 3
If the gpu core clocks are only 830, that is lame for using two 8pin connectors. Amd should realize load usage does not matter as much if you can cut the idle to be less than 2x6970s. Looks like getting 2 6970s was the smarter choice this time out.
Actually, the card has two settings, one is 830Mhz and the second is 880Mhz, however, with that much power I would imagine they will overclock nicely.
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Originally Posted by safan80
don't you mean 6950's???? ;);)
Nice i might get one!
nice card
The girl on their box really needs a new haircut. Other than that, looks good! :D
On each Eyefinty / HD6990 stand, ( see the photo's of the XFX installation ), i see this game... watermarked " Pre Alpha Code ":. Dirt 3 Maybe ?
Yes, it's Dirt 3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
Wish the 6000 series came with that graphic