On my UD5 going over 1.28vtt makes ET vcore go up, I think it may be a bug or by design as I can boot more vtt with more vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
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On my UD5 going over 1.28vtt makes ET vcore go up, I think it may be a bug or by design as I can boot more vtt with more vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
1.28vtt max here. No boot at 1.3vtt
EditedQuote:
Originally Posted by OC Maximus
forget that I read it wrong edited it & thought brolox it was right the first time.
More vtt needs more vcore, looks like about .14~.25 is where my UD5 likes it (with my kit anyway)
Same for me with hypers,2133 9-9-9-CR2 gives errors in s-pi32M.With CR1 it would instantly freeze...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
OCM, try bumping vtt up a bit.. Sounds bit off tbh..
what do you suggest for vtt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
oh dam i didnt see you tryed 1.3, little puzzed .. Maby bit more vtt and Dimm voltage? Only thing i can possibly think off.. That or 32m is having problems with max frequency of 2133 on the giga boards.. ?
Me neither 1.2 max boot, this other chip i'm working on is severly voltage challenged even more so vcore and vtt wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
In fact i think i figured out some UD4 users issues. It probably there chip.
I could run 1.6+ Vtt on my personal chip with eztune once in windows.
Not that it helped much instead of a crash i got a freeze near the end.
For me it was a matter of fine tuning subs per set of ram, one set of GT's liked totally diff subs than another.
Tuning them in at 1866 6-6-6 first then taking what I knew passed there was the ticket to getting them smoking at 2133.
Have you compared 3Dmark performance Brian between the Gigas and other boards... quite some interesting things there... wonder if it's due the non EFI bios...
Seems pointless with a 5gig limited chip atm, give it a go when I find the right chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
my OCZ mnh are running pretty well on L042B074 and UD5/f6d :up:
1067mhz 8-8-8 tested an hour Prime 2.64 3.5gb @ 1.05v/1.58v
7-7-6 also ok 32M 1067mhz 1.76v which is ~0.03v higher than same clock on my 920/e760
here's a vista 32m 8-8-8 1097mhz
vtt 1.05v set (1.08v cpuz 156)
vdimm 1.60v set
i set trfc 60, all other subs auto which do look slack for hyper
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...04_OCZ_F6D.png
looking very much forward to your super pi runs :up::up::up::up:
V nice :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Can the chip run faster & still do DDR 2200 CL8 at decent voltages?
Dino..cheers mate :D aiming for sub 6mins ofc .. not sure of highest multi yet.
thanks C-N :D yes for 32m and the vtt is the same, can't say about prime etc. but i've given up on stability tests atm re: LLC1Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Just for kicks.
Here's an average set of hypers.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/P67A-UD7/hypers.jpg
Here's a properly tuned set of psc.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/P67A-UD7/4%20cores.jpg
Here's a way above average set of hypers tuned properly ( keep in mind i have like 40 gigs of this crap )
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/P67A-UD7/Hypers%20tuned.jpg
Here's cas 6 which needs more testing with a better chip, I can do 1900+ but not at the max of my chip, bclk limits when at max of chip.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/P67A-UD7/hypers%20c6.jpg
Bottom line unless you got a killer set of hypers you will be no faster than a correctly tuned set of PSC.
Excellent testing,i had this question for a long time,which is faster 6-9-6 or 7-7-7 :) GJ
seems PSC is finally competitive but id still stick to good hypers for absolute best runs, time will only tell as it will depend on max clocks you can get out of ram as SB tends to like high ram clocks at expense of latency, when you compare ratios 16 18.66 21.33 runs get faster with higher clocks even if you drop latency from say 8-8-8- to 9-9-9-
Makes me wonder if a 24.00 multiplier will do wonders with the current arhitecture :)
Yah noticed that to dino, still curious as to what is needed 6-6-6 wise, I wasn't fully dialed in for that run.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Really need a chip that does 5.1 for some 5 gig high speed 6-6-6 runs so i have bclk flexibility.
I did get a run off at like 1940 4.8 but to keep my performance table in line it needs to be run at 5 gig.
I think 50% of the fast hyper run came from ability to run 58 TRFC versus the PSC topped out at 68..... the rest was in the subs.
lol if anyone could get it to even run hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
my money is on hypers kicking arse on LN2 with about 1100+ clocks at 7-7-6- timings
what people do not seem to grasp is that SB is a lot more efficient than previous gen and ram will not clock as high as previous gen due to extra pressure on IMC
Extra pressure on DIMMs you mean in comparison to running the same DIMMs on previous architectures.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
sorry yes :up:
Will catch ya on MSN at some point Dino - when we're both awake at the same time...lol
That is indeed true. As this run shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=5...se&iehack=.jpg
It was quite a bit quicker than my 7-7-7-21 Run at 2133 MHz
It left me scratching my head for quite a while.
Thats what i've also noticed, loose timings really dont matter with sandybridge compared to X58 where they play more of a important role, Even cas 9-10 @ 2k+ results in fabulous scores/latency..
i like where you put your money my friend. i think i will join you with that bet. now if only these sticks could run 7-7-6 subQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
zero...i guess 6-6-5 will have to do :up:
http://www.3oh6.com/wp-content/uploa...01/MG_9143.jpg
the M4E still doesn't like Hyper on 2133, but i have a hunch it is my chip. 1020MHz 7-7-6 on 1866 works fine though, i'm
banking on 1020MHz 6-6-5 working too. fingers crossed ;)
Anyone tried them Corsair GTX3's on these Sandy Bridge chips? Or they are better of on an x58 platform?
Apologies for being out of topic...
WPrime 1024 Mil
2.15.141
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1376/20100109201316.png
Hypers @ 2133MHz 7-7-7 1.74 Vdmm
5.7 GHz, VCore only 1.116V !:shocked::rofl:
they work better than gtx4s ..on the m4e:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
Idiot that I was I had the wrong CPU-z installed on that OS. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Here is the correct vcore
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1628075.png
Very nice 1Day. I need a golden egg.
I have been benching for nearly 5 years. My very first CPU was golden. A E6420 which started me on this benching hobby. And finally now I have a good CPU again. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Maximus
Now I just need to learn how to get the best out of it. :rofl:
I hope you find yours soon my friend. At least when you do you will know what to do with it.:)
WOW Clare, jealous :up:
I was playing around with 1m and hyperx kit, does anyone know how I can validate a submission using SPi 1.5 XS mod to HWbot?
okay here are my findings :D
hypers on
MSI GD65
2133 at any cas will not boot. tried 7-8-7 7-7-7 7-9-7 7-10-7
1866 at 7-7-7 or 7-8-7 will boot up to 5ghz maximum! will only run 32m at 4.9ghz :X
PSC (GTX3)
MSI GD65
2133 7-10-7 boots and runs 32m at 5.2ghz
hypers
ASUS p8p67 deluxe
2133 7-8-7 and 7-7-7 both work fine. Max board will boot is 100x51 which runs superpi stable
PSC
ASUS p8p67 deluxe
2133 7-9-7 works fine, same max as hypers 100x51 32m stable.
Soooo, imo its board dependent. gd65 hates hypers, but loves psc. With psc it hit the max speed ive gotten out of the chip.
On the asus board it loves the hyper and also runs the psc to spec. What else would explain this? The chips imc magically chained when I took it out of the socket?
I have another 2600k should be here monday and will do some more fiddling.
It tells us that MSI and hypers just do not like you :ROTF: remember x58 xpower :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
@Hondacity: Salamat (Thanks) for that.Quote:
they work better than gtx4s ..on the m4e
@1Day: great chip there....
Thanks Splave for testing.Do you think is only board depend or BIOS depend (of course +IMC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Nice work Splave!
Ive played with the 3 latest msi bios and they all acted the same so far. I will be able to tell more with a new chipQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
@chew indeed the ram gods are frowning on my msi boards :yepp:
i bought a retail chip and finally stock came in today
:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing dog in terms of CPU Mhz > ~5325Mhz max or so
in terms of ram clocking its even better than my ES eeek, this chip will boot into windows with 1.1vQPI/VTT and 1.74vdimm and run up to 8M SuperPi :shocked:, i had to bump QPI/VTT to 1.14 (didnt test 1.12 yet) and its fine with 32M SuperPi too now, so lower vdimm and much lower QPI too eeeek :D
and it runs same frequency at 4.5GHz and 5.3Ghz, here's 5.3Ghz in windows 7 :up:
i havent yet figured out voltage sweetspots so this will probably go even lower :rofl::D
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4...hz21337772.png
Good to hear Dinos. Should have my #2 tomorrow night, hoping for the best.
I sold my elpida hyper and run smooth with this
G.Skill [ Ripjaws-X ] F3-17000CL9D-4GBXL
CAS Latency 9-11-9-28-2N
http://www.gskill.com/images/images_...ts/023-450.jpg
This kit dont like low CL but stable @ 2133 9-10-9-26 ~1.60V
IMC is decent on this retail :up:
i was close to running 1092Mhz as well but worried i will kill the ram with too much voltage,,,, more with KPs RAMdominance pot :D
it is a bit tricky hitting high speeds but nothing that easytune cannot do :D:D
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/418...hz1087mhz7.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9...hz1110mhz7.png
Yeap,seems board dependent hyper problems with SB.My hypers won't boot 1866 cas 6,2133 cas 7 on Asrock P67 Extreme6,will run 1866 decently,but 2133 is stable only for S-pi 1M and some 3d benchmarks,at 8-8-8,no matter voltage(give them up to 1.8,no results).Some G.skill will arrive today,i'll test them to see what's going on,so far i reached for S-pi 32M 1866 7-7-6 32M stable at 1.75(same mem worked like charm on P55,memtest stable at 1.6 :D).
My chip is decent,too bad it will do 32M and vantage at 5520 with 1.5,but it wont scale 10 mhz more even with 1.65 :rofl:
Still a very decent chip though... Intel got to keep something back for a stepping change lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
id be happy with 5.5GHz heheheh
Dinos that with 1.8 dram ? Also has there been a fix with the ud7 running ram past 2133+ or is that only with hypers?? I got a UD7 on the way atm, and yes i know about the sata 2 incident but doesnt phase me as i use a raid card..
I know I aint in this "league" but, at 5.1Ghz what allowed me to go from 800 cl9-9-9-24 to 933 cl10-11-10-28 1T ( my ram sucks ), that wouldn't run 1 LinX without error, it was lowering the CPU PLL, I'm running 1.55v atm, from the 1.8v default. I know that extreme ppl arent fans of volt lowering... but give it a shot :up:
looks like we have the same chip. 06/vantage/11/wprime with all cores enabled & HT at 5522MHz with 1.51v vCORE all day long. cannot validate 5530MHz. at least mine can run 108.5 BCLK all day long too, so it is a very valuable chip for maxing out efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
oh, and i just received a UD7 yesterday, so after some work today/tomorrow, i will see if my chip is at fault for the lack of high memory clocks on the M4E :up:
Alex mind shooting me the batch info of that chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Not all to impressed with HT on performance of 2600K so just looking for a 2500K thats decent.
UD7 goes past 2133 even with hypers. I think it is only certain hyper chips that are problems. The two sets I have have gone past 2133 and not really blinked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
I'll share my experience with Giga boards
I think you wont be able to boot at high bclock i think with UD7 from my experience with 3 chips, best to boot at 100-104 somewhere whatever it likes and push it up with ET6 (must install Intel Management Engine Interface or ET6 will not work properly in windows)
make sure you also flash to a new bios(like F7E i used above) with @BIOS app and then copy that bios to backup bios > ALT+F12 during bootup
easiest way to get up to speed when tuning and crashing is to have battery out, flick PSU off and reload profile after clearing cmos, you'll get the max out in 20 minutes pretty much
johnny i put GTX3 ram and it went past 1100, GT2000C7 same thing, cheap corsair vengeance 1600 sticks bench up to 2133 even for me but it takes a bit of patience and fine tuning. There are some SPDs from wath ive seen that dont seem to agree well and IMCs that just arent up to par which could be Jody's case but personally all chips i stuck in UD5 and UD7 i have here are doing the same. Jody certainly has plenty of decent ram that works for me so ram shouldnt be an issue :up:. All my chips respond to VTT raised up to about 1.24v and they also scale with vdimm, also try Marvel SATA3 port on the HDD and PCH bump if you get some stability issues with higher bclock
Looking forward to it Jody, 32M and 3DMARK01 baby :up:
man cheapseats put the hammer down early, i gotta start doing some proper runs it looks awful now doesnt it :D
OK that is something I have not done yet. I tend to only overclock within the BIOS. Guess I need to move with the times. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Thanks dino seems like its IMC related then because GTX2's PSC right? Works fine here but when i use Hypers cant seem to push past 2100, then again not much difference from 2100-2200... Ill try bump the pch voltage and increase vtt a bit more, already at 1.2 though..Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
GT2000 cas7 - hyper
GTX2 - hyper
GTX3 - PSC i think
YEAH! that probaly explains it lol, dam ud7 hates my hypers and likes PSC :(:(:(:(
I gotta try this UD7:D
Newegg voided my MIVE order yesterday:(
yes my UD7 hate MGH-E
MGH-E...............Quote:
Originally Posted by PatRaceTin
Nothing wrong with UD7 or MGH-E.......
@ chew my Corsair gx2 dont clock very well, but when you run some BBSE'S dimms seems to find that sweet spot without any hassle.. I cant push past 2133 on my eplidas but can push beyond it with my bbses.. I thought it would of been IMC related or bios related but so far nothing seems to fix it.. im guessing compatibility issue? I know it sounds silly but out of options ha
just crappy set of elpida is all it is man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
no compatibility issues.
the max ram speed i can do with hypers is max i can do with PSC.
Same wall for my chip.
Strange Problem when i use Elpida Hyper @1866 i can bench at 5.4Ghz
When i change to G.Skill 2133 C9 (PSC40nm) i got BSOD at 5.4Ghz
Might try some Super talents, just gotta find some grr :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
yah maybe they will work if you get a good bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny87au
I tested from 1600 C6 SPD bin to 2250 c8 spd bin.
like 1 set 1600 c6 MHG-e, 2 sets 1866 c7 mhn and mgh, 2 sets 2000 c7 mhn and mhg and one set 2250 mgh.
All could run 2166, not all could do 7-7-6 however, voltage required to do XXX speed scaled linear, the lower bins needed alot more voltage.
Well , i've stopped blaming the boards and bioses (at least in my case).
For me , it's clearly a cpu IMC problem.
I cant stabilize my hypers with 1/8.
I can play with 1/7 @933 7-7-6-1T all day ... but when i switch to 1/8 @1066 i can only do spi1M @ 9-10-9-28 nomatter how many volts or trfc i use.
Same behaviour from my Corsair Dominator GT and my Super Talent Speed.
(Both previously tested on X58 and capable of 1066++ @CL7)
I've tried both the Asus P8P67 Pro and Gigabyte P67A-UD4 ... and almost every available bios.
Same results.
From my testing on PRO, it can't do 2133.......Quote:
Originally Posted by TASOS
However with some serious subtiming work it can pass preety high. ( this is with a chip known to pass 2133 )
I will see if i can get the UD4 to cooperate for some testing......it has some vcore issues......
Are those GTX1/2 still in the market? Or Corsair EOL'ed those already?
All elpida hyper is EOL'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
@chew: thanks for the reply. Any suggestions for a better ram? I have one last kit of the Dominator GT which have Hyper chips. Its going strong so far, but if it dies, am stuck.... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Better no. More flexible? My gskill flare 7-9-7 2000 kit is the easiest set to use with very good performance. Will it beat the best hyper no....but it will give them a run for the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
@chew: thanks. have another G.Skill kit (6-9-6-24) but it seems to hate the UD7. 2133 is a no go. The UD7 seems to like the Hypers better.
really? What speed bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
I will give it a go in a few see if i can dial in some timings for that board.
@chew: its actually a triple channel kit (F3-16000CL6T-6GBPID) 2000Mhz. I know am not that good in overclocking and tweaking stuff, but this one is just not stable when running 2133 with the UD7. I have not tried any other board yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
For 24/7 use you will need to back down to 7-9-7-24.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxxx
I did alot of prime testing already. For 32m i just ran a quick one off at 2133 gonna find limits now for max speed.
Yeah, similar result here, I think it's bios issue. I try OCZ Blade 2000C7 stick on my Asus P867 Pro and it can boot on 2133(7-8-7-21) with ~1.68v and memory is stable for pifast, wprime, all 3dmark, spi1m....BUT not spi32m. It freeze after 1sec or even less:). I try to enter manual all subtimings, raise VCCIO voltage up to 1.2v, vmem to 1.78v, different timings(8-8-8-24/27, 8-9-8-24/27, 9-9-9-27), different bioses(1053/1253/1204) and nothing, it's freeze immediately when I run 32m. But, when I put all timings on auto in bios it boot 2133@10-10-10-x and it pass 32m!Quote:
Originally Posted by TASOS
Same cpu and same mem work well on UD7 on 2133@7-7-6-20@1.72v and 1.14v for qpi.
Waiting for new bios....:)
Raise system agent ;)
Same here, sameeeee exact thing :up: fyi 1302 bios doesnt helpb:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dekara
@ alex-ro: hey mate ive tried up to 1.2 VCCSA and 1.25 VCCIO no luck even at 9-9-9-28-102
Here's you go maxx.
Settings should be extremely stable @ 2133 with only 1.65v.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=333
@chew: Nicely done and a great run. Thanks... I'll try those settings on UD7 and my G.Skills after work. Will post back. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
5001Mhz at 1.380v
2x2GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000C7
@ DDR3-2134Mhz 7-7-7-24 at 1.74v
Only tightened tRFC 88 and set 1T CMD rate manually for first run @5001Mhz. Strange as I mentioned before with 21.33Mhz memory multiplier at 7-7-7-24 timings with 34x cpu multi 100.2bclk had issues, but now at 50x multi 100.1bclk had issues but 100.2bclk runs fine :confused:
http://fileshosts.com/intel2011/giga...6m38s187ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel2011/giga...174/aida64.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel2011/giga...174/pifast.png
http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...4_02_3a_2a.png
maybe at 100.1 or lower I/O latency defaults to 1 eva?
I know I can't run anything if i force it to 1 manually.
Could be TWCL is 7 to by default?.
Seems to me 3 settings make it very difficult if to tight. TWCL, TRFC, I/O and i have had no luck at all setting RTL manually....so thats possibly changing straps with bclk change.
could be ? 34x100.1 (left) and 50x100.2 (right) both show IO latency SPD value at 2 for me according to bios no idea what AUTO sets
http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...2a_bios004.png http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...2a_bios004.png
how do you take those screenshots
also are you select No memory execute to disable?
yah it does for me to in bios, but if i use AIDA and look at timings when they are AUTO they are reported way way diff.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
yeah RTL :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to adjust manually but not sure if all this is related to the blck hole at certain *. values.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Would be nice if bios auto showed the values set next to them.
frame grabber mate http://www.epiphan.com/products/dvi-...bbers/dvi2usb/ :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
suggestion to Gigabyte bios engineers, add bios support for screenshot dumps to a disk partition or usb flash drive ;)
Yeah they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
lol dinos22 i was gonna say the same :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
nice tool eva2000 and 1
ot my G.Skill 2133 7-10-7-28 , but can't boot above multi 48x.
Multi 48x is ok, 49x not.
P67a-GD65
2600K
cpu ratio[48]
internal pll overvoltage=[en]
dram freq.[2133]
xmp[en]
dram timing mode[auto]
spread spectrum [en]
all other settings auto
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1648519
6-9-6 was set with msi controlcenter in windows, but can't boot into windows when I set it in the bios, so I used 7-10-7.
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Something wrong........ I think x50 should be minimum for most 2600K......................
Try manually setting ram @ 2133 and using 1.74v pll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullu$
After lot of testing/reading, I found the magic setting; lowering the bclk and I get into windows with x54. :)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1650267
Still need to figure out why it can't boot with 100bclck....
My 2500K was like that when it maxed out, would do 99.8 x55 but not 99.9!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullu$
I found lower CPU PLL, more PCH & not that it affected stability but a tad more SAV helped it boot... all worth a go.
Good luck :)
my board seems to like my Stalents hypers 2200CL8
some screens, 25,5C in ma room summer here
4805 HT ON LLC1 1600 C7 1T 1,6vdimm set on bios
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8...kswapfilel.png
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8...kswapfilel.png
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1...x8threads3.png
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8...kswapfilel.png
4805 HT ON LLC1 1869 C8 1T 1,68vdimm set on bios
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3...i32everest.png
cheers all
Sergio
Nice one Eva and andressergio, see you are both playing with the new gear :D
@Sergio
What kind of programm is Hyper pi?
^ multiple threads of superpi at same time
thanks mate :up: how are you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
nice Sergio down how you got those elipdas to lock at 1866 ive had nothing but problems with passing super pi 32 at that speed , did you unlock a Easter egg setting lolQuote:
Originally Posted by andressergio