Outside of PCP&C, Fortron/Sparkle/etc. are the best around IMHO. Enhance PSU running close second, again IMHO.
Glad to see you're getting your issues sorted Tedinde :toast:
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Outside of PCP&C, Fortron/Sparkle/etc. are the best around IMHO. Enhance PSU running close second, again IMHO.
Glad to see you're getting your issues sorted Tedinde :toast:
I had a PCP&C 425 2 years ago, but i ended up selling it in a duallie rig.
$69 bucks, this PS is a Steal!!!! I shall buy no other. I tried the 350 fortron im my below setup and it handled it better than my antec and ttgi 550 and volts were same as the 530 i just showed. Just made me nervous with the 350 So i didnt keep trust it 24/7 and while i was gone. But it wasnt getting hot.
Im glad the classifieds are back now!!! Got some PS to sell!!!!
I would gladly pay over $100 for this supply if i had to buy another!!
Kept telling everyone that Fortron Source(Sparkle) make great power supplies. :)
Glad these things may finally get the recognition they deserve.
BTW, I'll second your "touchy pots" statement. You can cram a lot of voltage up the boards arse in a hurry.
I knew they were killer when i first started buying the 350's a few months ago. heavy!!!!!
THis came in a nice box too with a handle. Nice presentation. I'll put some pics up of it later and some more innards!!!
I've got this open the HS are cool to the touch also.
great to hear ted!!
i figured when i was checking mine out that it would be perfect for you :D
and yes the pots are very touchy. barely turn at all and your going up several tenths of a volt.
I can't seem to find this fortron psu everywhere in Europe... Does anybody hav a link to a shop that could ship all over Europe?
Ive allways been a fortron fan.. although I think my 400 has seen better days.Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Kept telling everyone that Fortron Source(Sparkle) make great power supplies. :)
Glad these things may finally get the recognition they deserve.
BTW, I'll second your "touchy pots" statement. You can cram a lot of voltage up the boards arse in a hurry.
I have one of these 530's on its way over to me.
I think ill swap the internal pots out with cermet ones on wires and make them more easily accesable... so I can tweak voltages more easily..
Heh - was thinking about doing just that last night, it's a great mod for this PSU.Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
...
I think ill swap the internal pots out with cermet ones on wires and make them more easily accesable... so I can tweak voltages more easily..
A few people have PM'd me with that problem. Seems not to be found anywhere over there.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
I can't seem to find this fortron psu everywhere in Europe... Does anybody hav a link to a shop that could ship all over Europe?
I need some help here guys on this Forton 530 I have here.
the volts are way out of whack, heres what the volts were right out of the box.
3.38
5.5
11.05
that 12 volt line is correct.
measured with my Fluke Multimeter a dozen times.
upon some tweaking, I can get to a reasonable voltage, but once 2 lines are good, another line is so far outta spec I can't even guess if it's safe.
what I am looking at right now, after some adjustments.
3.6
12.21
6.05
I don't know how to get the 5 volt line down.
I adjust that, then the 12 volt line drops to 11.7 or less.
then adjust the 12, and the 3 goes down to 3.17...
whats the trick to this?
I can see, the far left pots are for the fan speeds.
the tiny middle pot adjusts the 12 volt line.
the 2nd from the left does nothing as far as I can tell???
then the left mini pot adjusts the 5 and 3.3 depending on how you adjust the pot, going right
lowers the 3.3 and raises the 5.
going left lowers the 5, but raises the 3.3
but leaving it in the middle, drops the 12 volt line to about 11 volts....
this is one tricky PSU to fiddle with.
beautifully made, whisper quiet.
feels like quality right out of the box.
the serial ATA connections are a huge plus.
but the pots are very very touchy and tricky so far...
any advice?
Kunaak
If your Fortron couples the 3.3 and 5 pots together, that's different from any Fortron I've ever seen. I'm waiting on a 530 for myself so this may be wrong but in my experience with 300 and 350 Fortrons:
The 3.3 pot controls only the 3.3 rail
The little pot controls the 12 and 5 volt rails - and when one goes up so does the other.
Are you setting the volts on a loaded board? Meaning heavily loaded with peripherals and O/C?
The 3.3 and 5v rails are interdependent so if you're loading one or both heavily during adjustment this could account for your problem.
With the low initial 12v rail I'd be getting that PSU ready for RMA. Doesn't sound right, something's wrong on that PSU. Since the 12v and 5v rails are adjusted on the same pot, by the time you get decent 12v your 5v is way high.
this is being adjusted on no PC hardware, just a unloaded PSU connected to nothing, the 3-4 pins are connected with a small wire, so I can turn the PSU on.
I am adjusting them in real time, watching the voltages on 2 multimeters to see what happens.
it's rather confusing so far.
the 12 volt line directly affects how high the 5 volt line is.
once the 12 volt line is at 12 volts, the 5 volt line is at 6 volts, and won't go anylower.
unless I lower the 3.3 volt to 3.1 volts, then it drops to about 5.85 volts, so I really can't tell which pot is doing what anymore.
it's a weird PSU indeed so far.
How would a full load effect these rails?
I wouldn't think it would drop them by much, because it seems like a pretty stout unit.
I don't have the full specs on the 530, but assume that the 3.3 and 5.0 rails have a TCO (Total Combined Output) of 300 watts.
If you're pulling 200 watts of 3.3 and trying to pull 150 watts out of the 5v, that adds up to 350 watts - in excess of the 300 watt TCO. Something has to give, what happens is that the voltages fluctuate and drop - BOTH of them.
Full load could affect the PSU this way even as you approach the TCO. Heat load goes up in the PSU and the rails start to wack out. Even on a stout unit like the Fortrons, but less so than on lesser power supplies.
You gotta have it loaded or 12v and 5v is always out of wack.Quote:
Originally posted by Kunaak
this is being adjusted on no PC hardware, just a unloaded PSU connected to nothing, the 3-4 pins are connected with a small wire, so I can turn the PSU on.
I am adjusting them in real time, watching the voltages on 2 multimeters to see what happens.
it's rather confusing so far.
the 12 volt line directly affects how high the 5 volt line is.
once the 12 volt line is at 12 volts, the 5 volt line is at 6 volts, and won't go anylower.
unless I lower the 3.3 volt to 3.1 volts, then it drops to about 5.85 volts, so I really can't tell which pot is doing what anymore.
it's a weird PSU indeed so far.
I use this Powmax PS tester that has 2 big resistors in it.
http://store.yahoo.com/dealsonic/poatxposuter.html
Good thing is it puts a load on it. Just Xrossing the Start wires wont get your volts right.
That's your problem.
This is the best $9 i ever spent.
They have an antec one that i have also but i like the Powmax better. The antec is just pass/fail
The powmax tester shows what is off, 5v/12v/3.3 ground.
Pic of the powermax. Shame their PS are junk. I've had 1/2 of all the powmax cheap supplies fail on me in my F@H farm!!!
Sounds more like your overvolt pots are out of adjustment to me...
put a hard drive on a molex, that'll put enough load on it I think... although i've never had this kind of problem..
well after my last post I just decieded to "go for it" and hook it to my PC, thinking I was running...
12.2
6.06
and
3.87
well, I take alllllll my good stuff out of my PC, hook up nothing besides the ATX connection and the P4 connection.
then power up and get into BIOS, only to find I am running...
13.28 volts.
5.45
3.7
so yeah, this PSU definatly needs to be on something to be tested.
the old pin trick doesn't work on it.
just like tedinde said.
thats most odd, but the results are EXTREMELY impressive.
after a few minutes in BIOS I adjusted it to this.
all in all, this is definatly a very hard deal to beat.
I can't believe the voltages available.
it's really insane.
I was at 13.2 volts when I booted in bios thinking I was at 12.2...
this is a incredibly adjustable PSU.
I am gonna go test some loads now, I'll post a few pics of that in alittle while :)
heres a shot of the PSU under load from a 8 million calculation of Super Pi for 8 Minutes.
Notes.
12 volt line.
low. 12.585
High 12.705
actual target volt 12.65
5 volt line.
low. 5.295
High. 5.402
actual target voltage 5.30
3.3 volt line.
low. 3.585
high. 3.616
actual taget voltage 3.60
the 5 volt line will overvolt more often then it does undervolt.
the 12 volt line is alittle jumpy, but well within a .1 variation so it's very solid indeed.
the 3.3 volt line is the most impressive.
it barely varied from 3.6 at any point and when it does it's within a .3 variation from the target voltage, so it's very stable again.
more tests to do, but wow, one hell of a good PSU so far thats all I can say :D
Told you, My Vapo and Tec is running off of mine along with the board.Quote:
one hell of a good PSU so far thats all I can say
I've got a 2.8 celery in here now @ 3750mhz on first boot testing.
I seem to have a good 3.0 also next to me on air that i just hooked up. 3.8ghz on a zalman, stable running F@H.
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If you check my ealier posts and screenies. My 3.3 v line was a dog kunaak, On the ttgi once i got around 4ghz and above.
I cant see anything this PS cant handle!!!!!
Looking like a nice PSU here. VERY nice.
ok, heres a load 3d benchmark.
laugh at the score, this is a 5200 (remember I said I took out my good stuff, and put the junk in cause I thought my 5 volt line was at volts ;) )
but look at the volts.
nearly identical.
theres a small variation on both 12 and 5 volt lines.
but the 3.3 volt line is rock solid, just a straight line from begining to end.
again :thumbsup:
good to hear you got one of these kunaak. :)
looking good on the voltages. not too bad on the variation.
Besides PCP$C, is there some reason to buy any other suppy!!!
Anyone in Europe able to get one of these Fortron 530 Psus?? I was able to find the 350 but not the 530. If anyone finds it please let know. After this Psu what will be the choice true control 550??
Thanks
Is it worthy to get the true control 550 or with the true power 480 I will get the same results. I´m looking for high OC (someone is this forum isn´t ;) ).
You guys mod these things or these results are straight out of the box with the pots tuned?
Be nice for us lazy people who don't know how to solder :)
This things volts hold fine out the box. I only really needed the 3.3v @ over 3.5.
No soldering all you need to do is open it to crank up the pots a bit.
does the 460watt model have the adjustable pots also?
model number FSP460-60PFN
thanx
I've got 3 different models of fortrons and all have adjustable pots.
My 400 has ajustable pots as well.
Although they are also "odd" to ajust as 5 and 12v are both on the same dial
Also for you long cable fans. SATA cable is nice and long also. My HD is 8 inches below that DVD drive. And if you dont know, A vapo case is tall.
what's the sound ratings on the fortron 530?
also what kind of fan is on the psu.
because if that is the case, I might choose to mod a different fan.
I am currently using a SilenX 400w 14db. I can't hear it when its turned on.
I can't hear a thing with my 530 on max speed.
not even when I was 3 inchs from it, with the PSU open and turned on while I was adjusting the voltages.
awesome, then i shall get one!
heh isnt it dangerous to have the psu on and tweaking the rails at the same time?
It is very quiet. And im surprised how cool the Heatsinks are inside. Especially with everythign on mine hooked to it.Quote:
Originally posted by Alex08
what's the sound ratings on the fortron 530?
also what kind of fan is on the psu.
because if that is the case, I might choose to mod a different fan.
I am currently using a SilenX 400w 14db. I can't hear it when its turned on.
Even more fun when you use your Leatherman Pocket tool kit. No shielding!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Alex08
awesome, then i shall get one!
heh isnt it dangerous to have the psu on and tweaking the rails at the same time?
But if you look on the picture, the pots arent where they are on a standard PS, they are on a seperate Daughter card all the way at the top. Different from other fortrons i have also.
On a related note, I replaced the 530w Fortron with my 350w Fortron and it's comfortably powering my A64 3000+@2.45GHz, 80w TEC, overclocked 9500np, two hard drives, and a CDROM without even so much as a wimper. ;)
These Fortron Source power supplies just never cease to amaze!
I have to say I think this 530w Fortron is the best PSU i've ever owned... and it looks good too!
Running 5.2/3.4/13v right now.. :D
and its cheap! not 130 bucks like your enermax ;)Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
I have to say I think this 530w Fortron is the best PSU i've ever owned... and it looks good too!
Running 5.2/3.4/13v right now.. :D
Same with mine, My tecs running off of it too. I mean right out the box my 12v line was Holding above 12v @ over 4ghz and my 80watt tec on, and also running My Vapo!!!! I've never been a FANBOY but im a Fortron fanboy now!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
On a related note, I replaced the 530w Fortron with my 350w Fortron and it's comfortably powering my A64 3000+@2.45GHz, 80w TEC, overclocked 9500np, two hard drives, and a CDROM without even so much as a wimper. ;)
These Fortron Source power supplies just never cease to amaze!
I should go buy some fortron stock on etrade later then send everyone to this thread, no reason now to buy those High $$ enermax/Antec and the rest anymore!!!!:D
especially no reason when the damn Enermax 460W drops below 11.8V @ 1.85VCORE and wont even let the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: POST .:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by Tedinde
no reason now to buy those High $$ enermax/Antec and the rest anymore!!!!:D
Hehe. To bad shipping it here would cost like $30 minimum probably more :/Quote:
Originally posted by Tedinde
I should go buy some fortron stock on etrade later then send everyone to this thread, no reason now to buy those High $$ enermax/Antec and the rest anymore!!!!:D
I guess i have to buy a Fortron (Aopen) 350W when i can.
The sys i run have done fine with my pot adjusted Chieftec/Sirtec 340W, but i have burnt the 5V cables one time and ATX connector two times. LOL
Atx design isn't cutting long runs (months with load) with boards that power the cpu from the 5V rail and vcore above 2V ;)
Still runs fine without any signs of being overloaded now (wich i only hade the first time, when 5V cables and ATX-connector was getting bad), but right now i run an nf7-s off it. 3.62V, 5.3V, 12.4V, not any big load on it now though. hehe..
Penti
Got mine the other day and am also very pleased with it.
Nice solid rails.Thanks for the tip guys!
peace
WannaGoFast
Couldnt find any of those 530W's here in europe.. 550W's are 170-180€ [ ouch :eek: ].
But if the 350W has those rail adjustments too, thats something to think about... [ and sell this Antec TP430W ]. Those 350's seem to be ultra quiet anyways..
Pe-Te
The 350's have the adjustments also. but down on the board, No riser card like the 530. Also the 300's have them.
i'll pop open one of my 350s later and take a few pics for ya ptk.
I've observed this with my Fortron 400w too.Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
My 400 has ajustable pots as well.
Although they are also "odd" to ajust as 5 and 12v are both on the same dial
In contrast, all the 300w Fortron I've tried have
separate adjustment pots for all three rails.
Not that I've needed to adjust them higher. They have no trouble
with my heavily OCed and loaded nForce2 system.
Not bad for a $30 (delivered) PSU. :rocker: :up:
Good luck! Fortron Source is a privately held company. :p:Quote:
Originally posted by Tedinde
I should go buy some fortron stock on etrade later then send everyone to this thread, no reason now to buy those High $$ enermax/Antec and the rest anymore!!!!:D
But I agree that there is no need to purchase those
high c0$t brands when these FSP Group based PSU
are so stable & durable. :thumbsup:
:2cents:
Anyone know how the noise of the Fortron 530w compares to the TTGI 520w? Although my TTGI also has adjustable pots and has been a great performer, I'm about fed up with the noise of this TTGI (even on the lowest fan speed setting it's the loudest sound in my rig) and looking for similar quality with much less noise. The July Anandtech review has the 400w version fairly quiet but curious how the 530 sounds under load. TIA!
you can barely hear it. i was using it on a caseless rig at one point and didn't have any drives connected and the cpu fan was silent and forgot it was on. i went ahead and swapped the video cards cause i thought it was off! luckily my 9600pro isn't dead after that!
so yeah i'd say its virtually silent.
lol
Dead silent :D
I have one pot on this 530 that seems to adjust the 5v and 3.3 together for some reason.. its kind of odd. Just means you gotta play with it until I have what I want, though.. :)
EDIT
I love the connectors, too.... makes it soooo much easier to disconnect the molexes from hdd's and cdroms!
Which fortron 350watt model has the ability to adjust all the rails, and are there seperate pots for each rail or a combined pot for 12v/5v? There are 2 diff fortron 350 models, the Hi-Q and FSP. I wanted to know because I wanted to get a new psu as a backup, I recently got a sparkle 350watt Power-Q model, for a diff comp, and it seems to only have a combined pot for the 12/5v rails.
FSP models are the ones I always buy. And there is just one pot for the +12v/+5v rails.
just received my fortron 530w, had to adjust the rails a bit.
i was skeptical about it being loud, tedinde and a couple were right, its just about dead silent from a foot away.
only problem i have is:
3.3v reading 3.47
5.0v reading 5.38
12.0v reading 12.66
even at these high voltages, my vcore and vdimm havent gone up, it actually stays the same or in most cases undervolts a little.
The motherboard determines VDIMM and VCore. You must mod your motherboard to allow it to use higher voltage.Quote:
Originally posted by Alex08
just received my fortron 530w, had to adjust the rails a bit.
i was skeptical about it being loud, tedinde and a couple were right, its just about dead silent from a foot away.
only problem i have is:
3.3v reading 3.47
5.0v reading 5.38
12.0v reading 12.66
even at these high voltages, my vcore and vdimm havent gone up, it actually stays the same or in most cases undervolts a little.
heh yeah, i guess I kind of figured that out, thanks though. I've just have had bad luck with my DFI infinity and voltages. great board though, just need to get the voltages straight. I have another infinity that overvolted on the vdimm and vcore. But then again I always hear the phrase "no two motherboards are the same"
anyways, I'm loving this fortron, good stuff. I like this because my other psu actually only had one fan, but this has two fans, in push and pull method.
I realized, in order to increase the voltages for the 5v/12v, I had to rotate it clockwise to raise the voltages, however the 3v, I rotated counter-clockwise to raise the volts.
I got mine as well, running it like this for now:
3.3V=3.52
5V=5.46
12V=12.5x
Working good for me :)
Next up is a Vdimm mod.
Here's another feature of the Fortron:
Thinking my Fortron had failed, I setup my Infinity tonight with my TTGI.
Before this, my modded TTGI and my new Fortron seemed to be roughly identical, both have strong 12, 5 and 3.3 rails.
When I plugged in the TTGI tonight, the power connection to my floppy drive glowed red hot. I quickly pulled the power cord, everything is all right except for a burnt floppy power connector and the (already) failed floppy drive. The jury is still out on my Infinity and everything else plugged into it.
The Fortron was plugged into the same rig, unattended for over 12 hours while I was at work. Nothing was burnt on the Fortron because it has over-current protection. When the floppy drive failed and shorted the 12v connection to ground the Fortron simply shut itself off.
The TTGI did not :(
I still like my TTGI for it's good rails but I'm going to replace all my PSU's with these Fortrons. The Fortron's overcurrent protection saved me from a possible fire in my brand-new home today!
http://www.adventurevision.com/somep...rtron-pots.jpg
Red = 3.3v adjustment
Blue = +12v overcurrent adjustment
Fushia = +5v/+12v adjustment
Green = ???overcurrent adjustment or fan speed???
Just verified that the BLUE pot. is for +12v overcurrent protection. (it also may control the +5v overcurrent protection but I have not been able to prove that)
Is anybody sure what the GREEN pots. do? I always assumed they were related to more overcurrent protection circuits but others have said they control the power supplies fan speed. I took the DMM to the fans and I can't get those pots to change the fan voltage so... :confused:
i think the greens control the speed of the fan when the temperature gets too hot and spins up the fans. i believe when it kicks on these set how fast it will spin up to control the noise.
Found a problem with these PSU's.
They dont tolerate ground faults very well..
I had to stuff my 400w smartpower back in to run at the lan I am at right now.. :rolleyes:
Can you explain the situation? Just curious what happened and why shutting down during a ground fault would be bad?Quote:
Originally posted by STEvil
Found a problem with these PSU's.
They dont tolerate ground faults very well..
TIA.
Same here - was the ground fault an open or a live ground?
Good question.. whats the difference? :D
Out where im living there is a grounding problem that doesnt seem to bug the PSU, but at the lan its worse and must be tripping some protection inside the PSU..
The rundown:
I shut off and packed up, drove to the lan.
Unpacked, set up, hit the power button and.... power for a fraction of a second.
Unhooked the ATX connector and jumpered it and it will turn on after cycling between on/off for about 4 seconds... and sitting for 5+ mins.
Odd..
I had similar problems at a lan with my 400watt..
This is the same lan where we tripped the buildings circuits when somebody decided to make microwave chips... so it didnt supprise me.
Open means that there is no ground.
Live means that the ground is carrying some voltage.
A simple line test tool is available at many hardware stores, it can find ground problems, polarity problems, etc.
No ground (open) is potentially dangerous because circuits designed for a good ground depend on it to keep chassis components at zero potential (volts).
A live ground can end up giving too much or too little voltage to a circuit, plus many electronic components don't like reverse bias (voltage where there should be none, as in a ground).
BTW, anyone know the value of the 12v/5v VR on the fortron? I had a lot of the blue goop lock on my 12/5v VR and even though I thought I chipped it off before turning the pot my ham hands pretty much destroyed the trim slot.
Now, the VR doesn't have enough pressure to keep the wiper reliably pressed against the pad and my brand-new PSU is useless unless I replace that VR.
Let me put it this way: I can stand on the cement floor and press my thumb to the computer case and revcieve a mild shock treatment... :D
Out in Del Bonita its very mild (you get it in the shower too, if you hold a hang-nail against the taps), but here... holy crap!!!
I have it working now, by the way... plugged into a different wall outlet.
I also figured out what was tripping it: I was getting a feedback voltage through my monitor cable because of the... messed up grounding...
On a related (?) note, the AN35N is having troubles with its USB... now whether this is related to my prodding around with the 2k ohm pot a coupel nights back or the grounding issues... we'll find out pretty quick..
Geeeeeze. That's messed up.
I wouldn't be one to screw around with ground potential. Have an electrician add a few more ground rods near your main service(make sure to get other services located first so you don't end up going through something else) and have him upgrade your main grounding.
I put a 200A main in a few years ago and put in a ground array since we have a good amount of clay and rock. Four 8ft rods worked nicely. ;) (after about 2hrs of pounding)
I'd say this proves the Fortron Source is a top notch power supply. It says a lot that it senses this sort of condition and shuts down.
Indeed :toast:
My monitor even has the wavy lines on it theres so much voltage in this floor... lol.
Heres a pic of my new 5v and 12v rails, too... although they read about .2v low (havent measured with a dmm yet.. messed with the pots last night while I was having PSU troubles.. :smileysex )
why are you guys running your rigs from the wall???????????????
35 dollar APC 350 UPS from compusa is exactly what you need.
Heh, I need one. I think i"m pretty close to blowing a fuze, when I turn on my fan with my speakers plugged in they pop.Quote:
Originally posted by Maxvla
why are you guys running your rigs from the wall???????????????
35 dollar APC 350 UPS from compusa is exactly what you need.
Or when I plug in anything else for that matter.
I have an APC that works well.
That aside, I tore my rig down and am home now, but am experiencing the weird no-power-on thing again?!!?
WTF is up with this?!?
At the lan if I jumpered the PSU repeatedly (on/off/on/off/on/off.....) for about 10 seconds it would eventually run up to full power and turn on.... but that isnt working now...
*sigh*
Been doing and recommending that. Better than surge protecters.Quote:
Originally posted by Maxvla
why are you guys running your rigs from the wall???????????????
35 dollar APC 350 UPS from compusa is exactly what you need.
I used to have a refridgerator at my first apartment. If you brushed against the stove and grabed the fridge handle, you'd sware you stuck a key in the wall outlet.
I would of fixed it, but when your 18 it's kinda cool for company!!
But that was long ago
lol
Maxvla,
What's the model number on the UPS you are recommending? I think I should probably get one here soon.
Thanks :)
Is it this one perhaps?
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...94979&pfp=cat3
Office max has a few cheap after rebate. A belken 500va $49-$10 rebate this week. I bought 2. One online then went and picked one up.
Same price as your CUSA model but a higher rating. I Modded one with a motorcycle battery before and got a little over 1 hour run time!! I use them for power conditioning and surge protection for cheap.
Good til Saturday
http://www.officemax.com/max/solutio...kOID=537051456
APC > *
and yes thats the model. i have one of those powering my A64 right now. i've also got a 350 CS (white model) which is running my p4.
i can't get a fsp 530 here in germany but i can get a Fortron Source FSP460-60PFN 460W EPS 12V (active PFC, full range (100-240V) • +3.3V: 27A • +5V: 29A • combined Power (+3.3V & +5V): 200W • +12V CPU: 16.5A • +12V I/O: 15A • combined Pwoer (+3.3V & +5V & +12V): 440W • -5V: 0.3A • +5Vsb: 2A)
is that a good one? sorry i don't know much about a psu
I got mine this morning.
Im very impressed.
Rails (on the atx connector) are 12.6/5.5 and 3.6 :D :D
Looking good so far..
is that one of this good psu's? if yes i'll buy one this evening :)Quote:
Originally posted by j0j0
i can't get a fsp 530 here in germany but i can get a Fortron Source FSP460-60PFN 460W EPS 12V (active PFC, full range (100-240V) • +3.3V: 27A • +5V: 29A • combined Power (+3.3V & +5V): 200W • +12V CPU: 16.5A • +12V I/O: 15A • combined Pwoer (+3.3V & +5V & +12V): 440W • -5V: 0.3A • +5Vsb: 2A)
is that a good one? sorry i don't know much about a psu
Dam you got a hot one from the factory. Quality control tester guy mustve been on something!!!:DQuote:
Originally posted by Holst
I got mine this morning.
Im very impressed.
Rails (on the atx connector) are 12.6/5.5 and 3.6 :D :D
Looking good so far..
LOL, or it got "tweaked" during the trip over the pond.
maybee the guy in customs got in a sneaky overclock when he was looking at it.
(didnt get charged import tax btw)
That's good on the tax. I shipped to a guy in canada once. Sold him a vid card off ebay for like $350. Put a card in there, gift from Grampa. I insured it for the amount and he got hit with the Customs duty. And got mad at me said the insurance amount set it off!!! Could i send him some $$.
Mines fine and queiter than my TTGI on it's lowest setting. Guess you noticed the weight of that Sucker!!!
Hmm gotta find my Digicam to put ttgi550 for sale in the forum. Four LED fans in that supply lighted. I usually dont like all that Flash!!!
He shouldnt have been charged...
he was probably BSing me I've not had a problem shipping to Canada since.
Wasnt like i was going to pay him anything, this was probably almost 4 years ago. A hurcules GF2 Pro!! first 64mb Gforce. all blue, and if I remember. It was $399 when i bought it.
ok , i ordered a Fortron Source FSP460-60PFN 460W (can't get a 530 here in europe) for 83€ , is the fortron good right out of the box?
It's fine out the box.
Where did you find it in Europe? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
I got mine this morning.
Im very impressed.
Rails (on the atx connector) are 12.6/5.5 and 3.6 :D :D
Looking good so far..
i think he got one through a member here on the forums who lives in the states :)Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
Where did you find it in Europe? :confused:
I shipped it a little hot out the box. I adjusted it on my rig, which pulls a lot of juice.
Just out of curiosity, what was the final figure after shipping to Europe ? ;)
PTK
Picked up a NewEgg refurbished one today for $39 shipped. My first refurbished item so we'll see how my luck goes.
I just shipped a PC P&C 510w power supply to the UK for $38. I'd assume the Fortron Source would be ~$30.Quote:
Originally posted by PTK
Just out of curiosity, what was the final figure after shipping to Europe ? ;)
PTK
I might be interested in getting one too, booted [ Its now funny how you allways shutted your PC down and/or had to BOOT even during usage to keep the damn thing going ;).. now i usually boot once in ~3 weeks ] to check the voltages in BIOS.
Didnt write them down, but if i remember right ...
+3.3V - ~3.2x-3.25V
+5V - ~4.85-4.9V
+12V - ~11.70-11.8V
So every line was ~2-4% undervolting in BIOS. And thats with 430W Truepower unmodded. No mods on the mobo [ yet ]. Must get a multimeter to check the values from the molex connectors under load... and to do that long overdue ddr-voltmod.
PTK
PTK
Does values are all fine, the specs for 12V rail is ±5%(11.4-12.6v), 5V ±5(4.75-5.25V), 3.3V ±5%(3.14-3.47V). But it might be a good idea to atleast check the voltages at the atx-connector when you check with a DMM later, it shouldn't differ but it can do it.
Only thing that you might want to do if you do a vdimm-mod is a sensmod for the 3.3V rail if your board powers the memories from the 3.3V rail otherwise thats fine, no need for a new psu really.
I Digged this up for a reason, just bought a used Vapo PE and now running with it i was watching MBM5 voltage readouts.
2.4C P4 1.6V @ 296FSB ~ 3.55G 2xPrime95 CPU -7C
From the High/Low page:
Core 1.61/1.5
+3.3V....3.26/3.18
+5V.......4.97/4.89
+12V.....11.80/11.49
Didnt even make the VDimm-mod yet. So its cutting pretty close from those numbers with this 430W Antec ? Still running without CD-drive and i will add couple case fans.
PTK
i think you just have to mod your rails. 430W should be enough
Don't trust MBM, my sparkle 350was reading like 10.2 for my 12V, it was in actuality right about 11.9V.
yea your right. measure your rails with a multimeter
did you have the ATX 12V attached? :idea:Quote:
Originally posted by sandman
Don't trust MBM, my sparkle 350was reading like 10.2 for my 12V, it was in actuality right about 11.9V.
mine reads that if I dont plug it into my DFI (did it by mistake while changing out parts)
i've got everything attatched and mbm5 says my 5v rail is 3.1, 12v is 0.20, and 3.3v rail is 2.9, all way off. bios reports them as slightly higher than spec. 3.4, 5.2, 12.4.Quote:
Originally posted by unrealneo
did you have the ATX 12V attached? :idea:
mine reads that if I dont plug it into my DFI (did it by mistake while changing out parts)
this thread will never die. lol.