Geforce GTX460: Overclocking and 3DMark results

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07-10-2010, 03:29 AM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold2010

more more

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/IT/cr/2010/0709/1520418704.JPG

http://tech.sina.com.cn/h/2010-07-09/17161413866.shtml

Is it just me or that card looks a bit longer than what we have seen so far?
GTX490? o.O
07-10-2010, 03:33 AM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

huh? but dont they need at least a tiny piece of l2 to NOT break cuda support and all? :confused:

Don't think so, none of their previous non GF100 gpu's had L2 cache, and they support CUDA as well. OpenCL doesn't require L2 either. I don't see the need for a mainstream GPU to have L2...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mAJORD

Wasn't that LCD panels?

Nice point, guess we have to ask him what was on his mind.
07-10-2010, 03:38 AM
cold2010

GTX 460 SLI

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8043/50881201.jpg

Quote:

900Mhz, Shader: 1800Mhz, RAM: 4400Mhz

FurMark

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1584/81481563.jpg

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=242673
07-10-2010, 03:46 AM
Ket

Maybe I missed the results, but has any review been done for the 1GB 460? Its the only one that could be interesting. If NV has got it right this time with the 1GB 460 they should have a 5830 killer and a card that gives a 5850 a run for its money. If that does happen, expect ATI to counter with price drops and/or a (GASP!) HD5835.
07-10-2010, 06:26 AM
Manicdan

interesting, all 1GB cards on newegg are OCed above the 675 (unless i missed something)
07-10-2010, 07:12 AM
ButtSprinkles

Hmmm. Why aren't there any reviews from major sites?

I'm actually considering getting a 1GB 460, oddly enough. :P
07-10-2010, 07:23 AM
bamtan2

so according to those benchmarks the 768mb gtx460 in SLI is around the performance of a gtx480. then dual uncut gf104 in "gtx490" would be . . . very fast

also, you can bet the gtx460 has been designed specifically to not put the gf100 chips totally out of business. apples to apples the gf100 cards will still be faster. that said maybe you only need something as fast as an overclocked gtx460...
07-10-2010, 07:35 AM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButtSprinkles

Hmmm. Why aren't there any reviews from major sites?

I'm actually considering getting a 1GB 460, oddly enough. :P

there will be, in 2 days :p:
07-10-2010, 07:36 AM
-Sweeper_

Palit GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) SONIC PLATINUM 1GB 256-bit

Core Clock: 800MHz
Shader Clock: 1600MHz
Effective Memory Clock: 4000MHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261076

impressive factory OC :D
07-10-2010, 07:37 AM
kaktus1907

wow gpu @900mhz(%33 more than stock) fan set auto and max temperature is only 81C

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold2010

GTX 460 SLI

[IMG ]http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8043/50881201.jpg[/IMG]

FurMark

[IMG ]http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1584/81481563.jpg[/IMG]

http://www.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=242673
07-10-2010, 08:54 AM
highoctane

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

wow gpu @900mhz(%33 more than stock) fan set auto and max temperature is only 81C

Seems they've also got the memory speed up nicely & on A1 silicon, looking forward to results from the 1gb cards.
07-10-2010, 08:57 AM
96redformula

Heck yeah, bring down the prices AMD :).

I think these 800+ clocks will force AMD to bring its prices back down now.
07-10-2010, 09:40 AM
tool_462

WTB a good review vs. other overlclocked cards.

Power consumption should be interesting, I jumped on a cheap 5770 Hawk due to low idle power and low consumption overall but I'd love CUDA for my HTPC if it can provide similar low power :)
07-10-2010, 10:25 AM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

WTB a good review vs. other overlclocked cards.

Same, wondering the difference in performance between these two setups @ 2560x1600 (with a little AA, 2x-4x maybe):

GTX 470 SLI OC @ 750mhz core/3600mhz memory, 1280mb (320-bit)
vs.
GTX 460 SLI OC @ 940mhz core/4300mhz memory 1024mb (256-bit)

These things are really inexpensive compared to a 470 (you can get an 800mhz stock 460 for 240 on the egg right now, vs. the best price of around 300 after bing cashback on the 470, more like 330 normally), and I'm wondering if the core speed is going to make them insane. I have a second 470 coming in to go SLI with on Monday, but I'm wondering if I should just refuse delivery, buy 2x 1GB 460's and go to town, sell my first 470, and enjoy extra cash + maybe same performance?
07-10-2010, 10:30 AM
96redformula

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Same, wondering the difference in performance between these two setups @ 2560x1600 (with a little AA, 2x-4x maybe):

GTX 470 SLI OC @ 725mhz core/3600mhz memory, 1280mb (320-bit)
vs.
GTX 460 SLI OC @ 940mhz core/4300mhz memory 1024mb (256-bit)

These things are really inexpensive compared to a 470 (you can get an 800mhz stock 460 for 240 on the egg right now, vs. the best price of around 300 after bing cashback on the 470, more like 330 normally), and I'm wondering if the core speed is going to make them insane. I have a second 470 coming in to go SLI with on Monday, but I'm wondering if I should just refuse delivery, buy 2x 1GB 460's and go to town, sell my first 470, and enjoy extra cash + maybe same performance?

I thought you went SLI GTX470 at launch, guess not :(.
07-10-2010, 10:33 AM
-Sweeper_

two of these should smoke a GTX480 :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261076
07-10-2010, 10:35 AM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redformula

I thought you went SLI GTX470 at launch, guess not :(.

No, I have been running a single 470 since launch... almost went SLI then but didn't. I have a second 470 due in on monday finally though :p:, partially spurred by considering going 5760x1200 with a 24"x3 surround setup, and partially due to wanting more power ;). Might refuse delivery, however, and try 460 1GB SLI.
07-10-2010, 12:02 PM
acidpython

£172 for a PNY GTX460 in the UK for anyone curious about price

http://www.lambda-tek.com/components...=460+gtx&go=go
07-10-2010, 01:11 PM
xdan

Hint: GTX 460 it will have the "8800 GT effect", cheap, very good performance, very good price, and high overclocking potential boost.
5830< GTX 460 768MB < GTX 460 1GB<= GTX 465 < 5850.
Next month GTX 450 , 5770< GTX 450.
07-10-2010, 01:17 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by acidpython

£172 for a PNY GTX460 in the UK for anyone curious about price

http://www.lambda-tek.com/components...=460+gtx&go=go

ATi partners are already countering this. So far I've seen ATi 5830s for £133 and Sapphire 5830s for £140. I'm sure its only a matter of a week or two before other ATi partners follow suit and perhaps beef up GPU voltage for more OC headroom.
07-10-2010, 02:18 PM
battlefront1990

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261076

Did anyone else notice this?

1 x HDMI 1.4a connector

are we getting DTSMA and TrueHD bitstreaming and true 3d bluray support?
07-10-2010, 03:36 PM
dartaz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261075

This one is not only have 1GB ram 256-bit bus, but it is also factory overclocked and it is only slightly more expensive than 768MB 192-bit version
07-10-2010, 04:26 PM
RPGWiZaRD

Quote:

Originally Posted by battlefront1990

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261076

Did anyone else notice this?

1 x HDMI 1.4a connector

are we getting DTSMA and TrueHD bitstreaming and true 3d bluray support?

1.4a connector interesting, this may allow 120Hz monitors to run at 120Hz using HDMI too.
07-10-2010, 05:25 PM
96redformula

Quote:

Originally Posted by battlefront1990

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261076

Did anyone else notice this?

1 x HDMI 1.4a connector

are we getting DTSMA and TrueHD bitstreaming and true 3d bluray support?

I haven't heard a word about HDMI audio passthough.

I don't think it is going to happen personally, they haven't come up with the name nAudioX to make it their sole proprietorship yet :rofl:. If it detects a non-nvidia sound card it will disable the sound drivers.
07-10-2010, 06:12 PM
Snowman89

I havent read the whole thread but if it can do about 900mhz with a voltage boost im not very impressed...
My Gtx 465 can do 875mhz on the gpu with a slight voltage increase and over that the stock cooler cant really handla the heat output...

Lets see on monday:)
07-10-2010, 07:22 PM
bamtan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

I havent read the whole thread but if it can do about 900mhz with a voltage boost im not very impressed...
My Gtx 465 can do 875mhz on the gpu with a slight voltage increase and over that the stock cooler cant really handla the heat output...

Lets see on monday:)

you should be impressed by both because both overclock really well.
07-11-2010, 03:56 AM
kaktus1907

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6792/460soc.jpg

GTX460/1024MB @900MHZ GPU @4452mhz Ram
07-11-2010, 04:42 AM
Olivon

Nice ! That's between HD 5850 and HD 5870 but the score is with PhysX activated.
07-11-2010, 06:07 AM
alcachofa

Seems the 1 Gb version will be on par with GTX 465, except it will have much better thermals and will need less power :)
07-11-2010, 08:35 AM
=SOC= Admiral

Ok so we have the GF100 and GF104. Next up to bat are the GF106 and GF108.
07-11-2010, 08:45 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcachofa

Seems the 1 Gb version will be on par with GTX 465, except it will have much better thermals and will need less power :)

How is it possible for it to be on pair with the GTX 465?
07-11-2010, 09:03 AM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

How is it possible for it to be on pair with the GTX 465?

Why not?
07-11-2010, 09:07 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picao84

Why not?

Since from what i have seen the gtx 460 and 465 would overclock somewhat the same and the gtx 460 has less cuda cores. So why would the 460 be more effective clock per clock than the 465?

If we are talking stock gtx 460 against stock gtx 465. Yeah then they are probably going neck to neck.
07-11-2010, 09:23 AM
cowie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

How is it possible for it to be on pair with the GTX 465?

stock clocks of 675 up to 800 for factory oc cards might have something to do with it.
07-11-2010, 09:24 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowie

stock clocks of 675 up to 800 for factory oc cards might have something to do with it.

As i wrote in the post above you:

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowman89

Since from what i have seen the gtx 460 and 465 would overclock somewhat the same and the gtx 460 has less cuda cores. So why would the 460 be more effective clock per clock than the 465?

If we are talking stock gtx 460 against stock gtx 465. Yeah then they are probably going neck to neck.
07-11-2010, 09:29 AM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

Since from what i have seen the gtx 460 and 465 would overclock somewhat the same and the gtx 460 has less cuda cores. So why would the 460 be more effective clock per clock than the 465?

If we are talking stock gtx 460 against stock gtx 465. Yeah then they are probably going neck to neck.

44 vs. 56 TMU's would help ;), I'd assume.
07-11-2010, 09:30 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

44 vs. 56 TMU's would help ;), I'd assume.

Oh so the 465 has 44 and 460 has 56? Will be fun to read reviews tomorrow and see how hot it gets also:)
07-11-2010, 10:00 AM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

Oh so the 465 has 44 and 460 has 56? Will be fun to read reviews tomorrow and see how hot it gets also:)

According to leaked info, maxes at 81º at Furmark. On normal use, around 51º.
07-11-2010, 10:28 AM
Snowman89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picao84

According to leaked info, maxes at 81º at Furmark. On normal use, around 51º.

Hmm okey. Well see when the reviews come. That info doesnt sound to good although.. The gtx 460 reviews said kinda the same. Although the review samples had 10 memory chips and 1.1v vpgu and my (all real 465?) had 0,9375v wich gave me 60C full load furmark.
07-11-2010, 12:02 PM
Neova

I got 800 core / 1600 shaders and 3500 memory on a 465 with ~ 75 full load (weather is over 30 C here!) so would like to see how the 460 performs clock to clock. Doesn't anyone compare architecture efficiency anymore or just it out of the box and call it a day? The 460 looks really good and if the prices can be under 199, then 2 or 3 in sli would be a killer combo. But I did get the 465 for only 210 so might need to pickup a 2nd one before it all goes away. :D
07-11-2010, 12:32 PM
ElSel10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman89

Since from what i have seen the gtx 460 and 465 would overclock somewhat the same and the gtx 460 has less cuda cores. So why would the 460 be more effective clock per clock than the 465?

If we are talking stock gtx 460 against stock gtx 465. Yeah then they are probably going neck to neck.

The 460 has 56 TMUs, the 465 has 44.

And the stock 460 has more shader power than the stock 465.

336*1350 vs. 352*1215

In fact, the 1GB 460 should be faster across the board compared to the 465. It has more shader power, more memory bandwidth, more TMUs, and the same number of ROPs.

The 768mb version should trade blows. It has lower memory bandwidth, but more TMUs and more shader power.
07-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElSel10

The 460 has 56 TMUs, the 465 has 44.

And the stock 460 has more shader power than the stock 465.

336*1350 vs. 352*1215

In fact, the 1GB 460 should be faster across the board compared to the 465. It has more shader power, more memory bandwidth, more TMUs, and the same number of ROPs.

The 768mb version should trade blows. It has lower memory bandwidth, but more TMUs and more shader power.

It has fewer PolyMorph engines, however, right? And no L2.
07-11-2010, 02:26 PM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

It has fewer PolyMorph engines, however, right? And no L2.

Wrong. It does have L2.
07-11-2010, 02:31 PM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picao84

Wrong. It does have L2.

I'd love to see where you got that info from, please.
07-11-2010, 02:35 PM
-Sweeper_

nvidia is killing the GTX480, you can get two GTX460s (factory OCed to 800/1000mhz) 1Gb in SLI for the same $$$
07-11-2010, 02:41 PM
-Sweeper_

first review: http://www.expreview.com/11276-1.html
07-11-2010, 02:45 PM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro

I'd love to see where you got that info from, please.

From here:

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/GPC.jpg
07-11-2010, 03:01 PM
-Sweeper_

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/3DM.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/l4d.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/JC2.png

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http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/sg.png

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/powerc.png

nice card...
07-11-2010, 03:08 PM
Chickenfeed

Quite respectable. Assuming availability and pricing stay in check, it should be a strong seller.
07-11-2010, 04:09 PM
cold2010

MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 768D5 OC Edition

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/3.JPG

728/1800

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/1.gif

3dmark vantage

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/4.gif

800/2000

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/2.gif

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/5.gif

830/2060

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/7.gif

830/2060@3DMARK Vantage

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/6.gif

840/2100@3DMARK Vantage

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalerc..._N460GTX/8.gif

www.coolaler.com
07-11-2010, 04:20 PM
Luka_Aveiro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picao84

From here:

http://www.expreview.com/img/review/GTX460/GPC.jpg

I wouldn't put my hands on fire about that, but it makes sense... I'd like to see more info about it, let's wait for more reviews.
07-11-2010, 04:32 PM
Solidus J2K

Another review:

http://www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/128604.htm
07-11-2010, 05:22 PM
-Sweeper_

Geforce GTX460 - Inpai.com.cn Review

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SLI

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Overclock

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www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/128604.htm
07-11-2010, 05:30 PM
Luka_Aveiro

So, get one, overclock it and you'll get overall better performance than a stock HD5850/GTX470.

Sounds 8800GT to me :p:
07-11-2010, 06:36 PM
Pied

Newegg shows a few GTX 460 1GB. Cheapest is $220 w/ $8 shipping. SOLD! :D
07-11-2010, 06:38 PM
Johnny87au

hmmm the 1gb version seems to be smashing everything... I'd like to see it compare with a 480.. Dont think it would be that far off..
07-11-2010, 06:45 PM
-Sweeper_

theres a GTX460 1Gb @ 725/1450 for U$219 at the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-075-_-Product
07-11-2010, 07:09 PM
bamtan2

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07-11-2010, 07:11 PM
bamtan2

overclocked gtx 460 is faster than 5850 and uses less power?

............................
07-11-2010, 07:26 PM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamtan2

overclocked gtx 460 is faster than 5850 and uses less power?

............................

:up:
07-11-2010, 07:42 PM
96redformula

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamtan2

overclocked gtx 460 is faster than 5850 and uses less power?

............................

Not according to Tom's Hardware

http://www.tomshw.it/cont/articolo/g.../26197/11.html
07-11-2010, 07:43 PM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redformula

Not according to Tom's Hardware

http://www.tomshw.it/cont/articolo/g.../26197/11.html

im not seeing overclocked GTX460s in this review
07-11-2010, 07:54 PM
96redformula

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

im not seeing overclocked GTX460s in this review

Are you guys really trying to compare a GTX460 Overclocked to a stock HD5850?

If we are going to use overclock cards lets overclock both please.

Here is my take so far on GTX460:
GTX460, Great bang for the buck, impressive performance, SLI looks like another bang for the buck with GTX460.

Things yet to be answered:
OC GTX460 vs OC ATI HD5850?
Does it passthrough HDMI audio(DTS-HD, etc)?
ATI have an answer or price drops?
HD5830 EOL?
07-11-2010, 08:06 PM
highoctane

The 460 1gb is looking pretty damn appealing, good price, good power consumption, good temps, good OC potential, good performance, good price!!

It's certainly looking to have all the characteristics that made the 8800gt a great product.
07-11-2010, 08:25 PM
Blacky

Well done nvidia :clap:
07-11-2010, 08:31 PM
SKYMTL

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

theres a GTX460 1Gb @ 725/1450 for U$219 at the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-075-_-Product

In my experience, Sonic = loud as hell.
07-11-2010, 08:43 PM
xdan

Not now, Msi Cyclone seems to suport control of GPU voltage, other's don't.

Quote:

Are you guys really trying to compare a GTX460 Overclocked to a stock HD5850?

GTX 460 1gb oc, is in most of situation better than 5850 stock :clap:
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-84.jpg

5850 price will drop to ! :up:
07-11-2010, 08:46 PM
bamtan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redformula

Are you guys really trying to compare a GTX460 Overclocked to a stock HD5850?

your knee jerk reaction is understandable. but I'm not comparing absolute performance like you imagined. the efficiency comparison is valid and pressing. everyone hates gf100 because it is inefficient. 5850/5870 are pretty awesomely efficient. and if these benchmarks are true, gf104 completely reverses that, becoming the new efficiency leader.

combined with the smaller chip and board size (which directly equates to lower cost), this means people will love it for all the reasons they hate gf100...
07-11-2010, 09:09 PM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

In my experience, Sonic = loud as hell.

by the way, awesome review, congrats :up:
07-11-2010, 09:24 PM
bamtan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamtan2

overclocked gtx 460 is faster than 5850 and uses less power?

............................

HEXUS disagrees: "There's little doubt that the GF104-based Fermis are far better with respect to performance-per-watt but the Radeons are still kings of energy-efficiency."
07-11-2010, 09:34 PM
-Sweeper_

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23702.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23703.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23704.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23705.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23706.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23707.png

wow
07-11-2010, 09:50 PM
bamtan2

this is a very fair assessment of the 5-10 month delay by legionhardware:

Quote:

Whichever way you slice it, the GeForce GTX 460 768MB was overall faster than the Radeon HD 5830 by a small margin in the dozen games that we tested with. Then when we measured the power consumption of each graphics card the GeForce GTX 460 again came out on top, using slightly less power. Furthermore the reference cooler also appears to do a much better job, as the GeForce GTX 460 was found to be 18 degrees cooler than the Radeon HD 5830 when under load.

The GeForce GTX 460 768MB is clearly the better choice of the two graphics cards in our opinion. However having said that the Radeon HD 5830 is almost 5 months old now, making the GeForce GTX 460 a considerably newer product. Furthermore the Radeon HD 5000 series has been available for almost 10 months now, which hardly makes the technology cutting edge anymore.

Something else to consider is that at $220 US the GeForce GTX 460 1GB graphics card will be 27% cheaper than the [$300] Radeon HD 5850, despite being just 7% slower on average. On average the GeForce GTX 460 1GB was 17% slower than the GeForce GTX 470, which is a fairly decent margin. However at $220 US the GeForce GTX 460 is 31% cheaper.

Overall, by redesigning the GeForce GTX 460 to remove the unnecessary bits, making it a more compact and efficient GPU, it appears that Nvidia has created the perfect mid-range graphic cards. We genuinely like the GeForce GTX 460 in either its 768MB or 1GB flavors, and prefer it to the ATI competition.
07-11-2010, 10:46 PM
Lmui

I sense a price drop from ATI's side along with an upgrade for myself depending on which way the pricing swings. The consumer always wins when competition works =)
07-12-2010, 02:53 AM
matose

Did you see that 2 x Geforce GTX 460 768MB SLI beats Geforce GTX 480 and is cheaper too: 3DMark, FC2, HAWX, RE5, DIRT 2, AvP, Unigine Heaven 2.1, Just Cause 2, STALKER: CoP.

Also, both Geforce GTX 460 OC-ed at 860 / 2300 beats the HD 5850 easily: Just Cause 2, AvP

Good job NVIDIA, now we're waiting for "Gemini" :D
07-12-2010, 03:06 AM
Vardant

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redformula

Are you guys really trying to compare a GTX460 Overclocked to a stock HD5850?

Well, you can't really buy an HD 5850 for 200 bucks now, can you? So it makes sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redformula

Things yet to be answered:
OC GTX460 vs OC ATI HD5850?
Does it passthrough HDMI audio(DTS-HD, etc)?
ATI have an answer or price drops?
HD5830 EOL?

OCed GTX 460 is close to an HD 5870, so depending how lucky you are, they can be on par even with OC.

Dolby True HD and DTS-HD is supported.

They better.

It wasn't that good to begin with, so who cares?
07-12-2010, 04:26 AM
Manicdan

on the Inpia review, how is a 800Mhz 5830 consuming 60W less than a stock 5850 with both under full load:
http://img.inpai.com.cn/article/2010...7b3a3437ee.png
http://img.inpai.com.cn/article/2010...ecbef463ab.png
07-12-2010, 06:52 AM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anandtech

NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23702.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23703.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23704.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23705.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23706.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23707.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23711.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23712.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23714.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23715.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23720.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23721.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23724.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23727.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23728.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23729.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23739.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23741.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23740.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23743.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23742.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23738.png

''We've seen the GTX 460 lock horns with the 5850, and while the 5850 is undoubtedly the faster gaming card the $300 price point no longer makes as much sense as it once did with a $230 1GB GTX 460 below it. AMD either needs a 5840, or a price drop on the 5850 to bring its price more in line with its performance.

At the end of the day NVIDIA has created a very powerful card for a market that has been overlooked for most of this year, and right now they're setup to benefit from it. The GTX 460 is well priced, well performing, and cool running - 3 qualities we haven't been able to attribute all at once to an NVIDIA card in quite some time. With launches and pricing like the GTX 460, the competitive landscape that we enjoyed through 2008 and 2009 is finally taking shape once more, and we couldn't be happier.''

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Zotac/GeFo...perfdollar.gif

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Zotac/GeFo...es/perfrel.gif

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Zotac/GeFo...mages/temp.gif

http://www.techpowerup.com/images/recommended.gif

http://www.hardocp.com/images/articl...VsvzTK_9_5.gif

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...s-gtx-480.html

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-20.jpg

''The GF100 cards have four texture units per SM while the NVIDIA equipped the GF104 with eight TMUs per SM. This can and will lead to a massive increase in texture performance which will benefit older DX10 and DX9 games.''

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-37.jpg

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-44.jpg

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-69.jpg

Overclocking Results

GTX 460 1GB Final Clock Speeds

Graphics Clock: 827Mhz
Processor Clock: 1654Mhz
Memory Clock: 4220Mhz (QDR)

GTX 460 768MB Final Clock Speeds

Graphics Clock: 843Mhz
Processor Clock: 1686Mhz
Memory Clock: 4244Mhz (QDR)

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-84.jpg

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...GTX-460-83.jpg

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...hoenix/DGV.gif http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...x/dam_good.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legion Hardware

Something else to consider is that at $220 US the GeForce GTX 460 1GB graphics card will be 27% cheaper than the $300 Radeon HD 5850, despite being just 7% slower on average. On average the GeForce GTX 460 1GB was 17% slower than the GeForce GTX 470, which is a fairly decent margin. However at $220 US the GeForce GTX 460 is 31% cheaper.

Overall, by redesigning the GeForce GTX 460 to remove the unnecessary bits, making it a more compact and efficient GPU, it appears that Nvidia has created the perfect mid-range graphic cards. We genuinely like the GeForce GTX 460 in either its 768MB or 1GB flavors, and prefer it to the ATI competition.

A Palit Geforce GTX 460 Sonic Platinum bateu a Radeon HD5850 na maioria dos testes, por U$50 a menos.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-...h/Dirt2_02.png

http://static.techspot.com/articles-...nch/FC2_03.png

http://static.techspot.com/articles-...STALKER_02.png

http://static.techspot.com/articles-...nch/COD_01.png

http://static.techspot.com/images2/outstanding.png
07-12-2010, 07:03 AM
Olivon

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: Part 2 - The Vendor Cards - AnandTech

930 MHz GPU for Asus with 1.062V. Not bad :D

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e6e53a8...51fb2a79a6.jpg
07-12-2010, 07:15 AM
-Sweeper_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olivon

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: Part 2 - The Vendor Cards - AnandTech

930 MHz GPU for Asus with 1.062V. Not bad :D

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/e6e53a8...51fb2a79a6.jpg

still cooler than a stock HD5850 :eek:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/g...4503/23751.png
07-12-2010, 07:37 AM
alcachofa

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/795-...e-gtx-460.html

English version will follow this week.
07-12-2010, 07:41 AM
Olivon

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcachofa

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/795-...e-gtx-460.html

English version will follow this week. Average scores through 12 games :

Can't believe how cold they run :

Ci-mer :)

Great review, as usual :up:
07-12-2010, 07:44 AM
alcachofa

Y'a pas de quoi ;)

Definitely my favourite french site for reviews :up: they don't seem to like hotlinking of their graphs though :D
07-12-2010, 08:02 AM
Dr_Swizz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

on the Inpia review, how is a 800Mhz 5830 consuming 60W less than a stock 5850 with both under full load:
http://img.inpai.com.cn/article/2010...7b3a3437ee.png
http://img.inpai.com.cn/article/2010...ecbef463ab.png

I noticed that too and it simply doesn't add up. They must have mixed up the results or something.
07-12-2010, 08:47 AM
-Sweeper_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szr41GsG2qA
07-12-2010, 09:01 AM
-Sweeper_

SLI performance: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...e_GTX_460_SLI/
07-12-2010, 09:07 AM
-Sweeper_

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._1680_1050.gif

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._1680_1050.gif

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._1680_1050.gif

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http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF..._1680_1050.gif
07-12-2010, 09:25 AM
matose

Quote:

Originally Posted by matose

Did you see that 2 x Geforce GTX 460 768MB SLI beats Geforce GTX 480 and is cheaper too: 3DMark, FC2, HAWX, RE5, DIRT 2, AvP, Unigine Heaven 2.1, Just Cause 2, STALKER: CoP.

Also, both Geforce GTX 460 OC-ed at 860 / 2300 beats the HD 5850 easily: Just Cause 2, AvP

Good job NVIDIA, now we're waiting for "Gemini" :D

Also a scaling test with GTX 460 OC on 10 different procesors you can find here ;)

BTW, HD 5830 has a bigger TDP than HD 5850 :)
07-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Taskforce

I really want to like this card, but just don't see any significant improvement to upgrade from a 200 series just yet, however I'm curious if it will stream True-HD audio over the HDMI 1.4 port.
07-12-2010, 11:44 AM
-Sweeper_

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF...es/perfrel.gif

91% of HD5970 performance for 64% of the price
07-12-2010, 04:50 PM
snoid_zero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taskforce

I really want to like this card, but just don't see any significant improvement to upgrade from a 200 series just yet, however I'm curious if it will stream True-HD audio over the HDMI 1.4 port.

It will but it is not supported in the initial shipping drivers and will be made available at a later unknown date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Anandtech.com

The GTX 460 will offer full bitstreaming audio capabilities, something the GF100 GPU powering the other GTX 400 series cards could not do. This means that the GTX 460 will be able to bitstream DTS Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD along with the 8 channel LPCM audio capabilities supported by the previous GTX 400 series cards.
07-12-2010, 05:06 PM
Ket

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sweeper_

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeF...es/perfrel.gif

91% of HD5970 performance for 64% of the price

Uhm.. Thats TWO 460s vs. 1 5970 ;) I dunno what prices are like there but here a 5970 costs about £470, two 460s cost about £400.
07-12-2010, 05:35 PM
NKrader

nice
07-12-2010, 05:36 PM
NKrader

^best reply ever.. :yepp: :rofl:
07-12-2010, 05:42 PM
GoldenTiger

One pair of stock-overclocked 810mhz core/4000mhz 256-bit memory 1GB GTX 460 cards coming in for $450 shipped after Bing CashBack :D for an SLI setup. One heck of a sweet deal!
07-12-2010, 09:27 PM
tajoh111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ket

Uhm.. Thats TWO 460s vs. 1 5970 ;) I dunno what prices are like there but here a 5970 costs about £470, two 460s cost about £400.

Where is the price like that. Thats an abnormally low cost for a 5970 and an abnormally high cost for a gtx 460.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1830

Here a 1gb gtx cost 180 or 360 pounds for two vs 520 pounds for a 5970.

With only a ten percent performance delta, it doesn't justify anything greater than 100 pounds in price difference.
07-12-2010, 10:00 PM
xdan

On Gainward GTX 460 1GB GLH( 800/1600/4000) it's posible to adjust GPU voltage, and most probably on Palit GTX 460 PLATINIUM(same clocks, same PCB, a little different cage cooler) because Gainward is a subvendor of Palit.
But all GTX 460 with ON NCP 5388 can adjust voltge with MSI Afterburner1.61 normaly.
Gigabyte 460OC 1gb can to.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/826/overclockmic.jpg

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3139/burnbaby.jpg
07-13-2010, 12:32 AM
Johnny87au

after checking out those screenshots wouldnt it be better to just go with 1x 5870, basically almost same price as 2x 460s, yet the 5870 gives better results and leaves more room incase you ever wanna add another card for crossfire..!?
07-13-2010, 12:36 AM
Picao84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny87au

after checking out those screenshots wouldnt it be better to just go with 1x 5870, basically almost same price as 2x 460s, yet the 5870 gives better results and leaves more room incase you ever wanna add another card for crossfire..!?

5870 gives better results than GTX460 in SLI? where?
07-13-2010, 12:40 AM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picao84

5870 gives better results than GTX460 in SLI? where?

Actually retract that statement lol, big missup.. was reading it wrong..:ROTF:
07-13-2010, 01:59 AM
cold2010

Palit GeForce GTX 460 1GB Sonic Platinum

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/339...ard/index.html

http://images.tweaktown.com/content/3/3/3396_41.png

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