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AOD problem?
Some functions in AOD are not working dino. Mainly memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
1) AOD related : voltage sliders are 80% non working as some multipliers...
2) After a non post, sometimes the NB multi stays at 10X here.... I need to change one value lower or higher to get it responding again, if I bump eg 2 or 3x it stays put... very weird...
3) Needing slightly more voltage on the Giga but that could be explained with the tighter timings preset...
Leeghoofd, the issue with the NB multi is also present on Asus boards.
I've had it on my old M4A79 and both my Crosshair III Formula's.
specifically what is going on with memory...cant change timings or something else?
cant do anything in mem section in Aod at all. and nearly all the volt slideres is not working!
Got a bios here to test. Please don't ask for it or pm me for it as it needs to be tested before it can be deemed safe.
Need to play mechanic today, will give it a spin late tonight.
I cannot unlock my Phenom II x3 720BE :S
I activate the ACC & EC Firmware "Hybrid" and the consequence is that stuck on boot screen without being able to detect which drives, and so on without reacting to any key :\
Anyway I indicates that the processor is 4 cores but the consequence is the the already mentioned.
I hope it is only because of an immature Bios :\
The batch of my Phenom II x3 720BE is "0904 EPUW"
Bye!~
Hey there Chew, could you give an estimate if possible on the Release time for for the F3 bios?
I did a few tests today with a single OCZ Vertex 120gb SSD.
I hoped Vertex to be quicker if connected to sata III because sata II maximum realistic read bandwith is around 250MBs which Vertex exceeds on some cases.
The results are a little dissapointing because Sata II still outperforms sata III with a single SSd disk on that board. Very probably its not the SSD fault and the reason is badly performing marvell 9128 drivers on this board.
Both Vertex and board have lates drivers and firmware installed.
Hopefully i get my second drive soon and just maybe Vertex Raid 0 will show results on Sata 3 side a little better.
On first picture the SSD is connected to sata 2. Winner tests are marked with red
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Honestly have had no time to test it, have been cranking out cars at my buddies shop non stop this week. Already put over 80 hours in and working today to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nvidia256
Just flashed to the F3A bios that chew posted for us.
Looks like with this bios AOD is working.
Aod overdrive is working for me with this bios, no lockups when starting overdrive.
Power settings are recognized and adjustable.
Most memory settings are adjustable now with AOD.
ACC can be ticked from AOD, starts after system is restarted.
Still testing my overclock settings for 4.o ghz, but looking good so far.
Have not run into any problems yet.
So far I like this bios, thanks NCspecV81.:)
Are you kidding me? I posted that. You're Welcome though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCspecV81
Im sorry, my mistake.
F3A finally fixes AMD OD :shocked:
Guys should be thanking giga and the people that debugged board.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCspecV81
Unless of course you made that bios ;)
I can't see why you would want kudos for leaking it.
You are still my hero Brian :D
yeah that...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
hey speak of the devil, maybe you guys should be thanking leeghoofd. :)
Heh I said I had it, and i would test it.
Having tested beta's before with lots of hardware takes time for compatibility issues, thus why it's not leaked nor did i ask permission to leak it as I can't deem it safe yet ;)
Tried way to many beta's that eat hard drives to just leak without testing.
Time to debug this beta.
Test 1 fail sempron 140 known good unlocker will not unlock.
will edit in details as i go along.
Test 2 720 BE known good unlocker = unlocks.
I'd say that athlons/sempron will have an issue on this bios with cache/core unlocking.
Windows install is still sluggish/slow, my guess is the low HD performance bug is still not adressed.
Did some slight overclocking/ssd testing, so far PCI frequency doesn't have a mind of it's own as my SSD is still working thus far.
Corsair 32X Extreme series SSD
AMD SB stock speeds.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/1.JPG
Sata 3 marvell chip.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/2.JPG
I like to call this old cpu microcode syndrome, it's actually quite normal from various testing on a variety of boards with "unlocking" cores.
Faster is not always faster.
AMD SB
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/3.JPG
Sata 3 marvell chip.
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/4.JPG
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...70_31993_marks
tested new bios :)
Well nice to know it works on ln2 but 24/7 users are the majority ;)
Board had no issues on ln2 with the old bios other than 3d gt's are low :) in fact it looks like it still is having a 3d game test low score bug.
Score should be up around here at those cpu/gpu speeds. http://www.hwbot.org/community/submi...70_32515_marks
why they dont fix those problems ? :shrug: anyway , waiting for the 890FX boards, but i think i dont buy gigabyte no more. So slow bios support ...:shakes: but still... i like gigabyte...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
No clue maybe people don't complain enough, I know i bugged them about a few issues at least 3 times and finally leeghoofd got there attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by sponge bob
Maybe a public post showing what issues they have will get there attention.
Seeing as this board was meant to replace the FXT it is an improvement, I'm still on my first ln2 board.
I was eating the lower PCI X slots on the 790fxt benching ln2 with 3d in x fire like a bad habit, no such issue with this board.
As far as ln2 benching it's the most reliable and "effecient" as far as ln2 usage goes because it just works.
Maybe we can do for this board what we achieved at Asus camp when we had issues with the Q94/9550 series CPU's on the P5Q series... gather info and pass that on is a very good idea Chew*...
I'm meeting the giga crew next week at CeBIT and could pass this info trough ( maybe short notice as it's in 2 days ), I need some crossfire cards to verify 3D... only got Nvidiots here...
Can you pm me the HD issues Brian, OS install went pretty normal here with F2 ( XP, XP64 and Win7 Pro 64 )...
Quote:
Originally Posted by sponge bob
I think the problem in releaseing new bio's is due gigabyte putting most of their effort into Intel mb's.
Seems like there is a new Intel bios, coming out every other day. Look at the Jz website nearly all the bios's are Intel.
The Ga-x58a_ud7 for example came about the same time our mb did.
We have 3 bio's to play, but the Intel board has 15 bio's.
I think Amd mb's are an afterthought to Gigabyte, their number 1 priority is Intel. :yepp:
Might be able to see the 3d biased GT issues with NV, not sure though. Should not need to even be in crossifre to see it, canyon will be lower than avg when compared to the majority in 05/06 and same in 3d based gt's in 03.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Best way to see the poor HD performance is to install win7 to an MSI and giga at the same time. The MSI will finish by at least 2 minutes faster. Let me drag out my MSI or Crosshair III and run the HD tests again.
James and I even noted that the HD performance was sub par compared to the elder 790FXT as we had run pcmark on it prior to using the FXTA and HD's scores went down.
Ok so I did a little comparison.
Now as far as HD synthetics go :shrug: best i can tell you is ASUS/MSI installs windows faster. ASUS boots this particular install with 8 load bars at splash screen, MSI boots in 10 bars and Gigabyte boots in 16 bars.
MSI results were odd. Could be the fact that I prefer an ancient bios for benching.
Corsair Xtreme Series X32 SSD Fresh format
MSI
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/msi%201.JPG
ASUS CH III
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/790FXTA-F3a/asus%201.JPG
GIGABYTE
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...g_giga%201.JPG
I also did a 3d comparision. Things you need to keep on mind. Likely bottlenecked by CPU so the diff is minimal at best right now but is linear as you scale higher and add more gpu power. Giga clocks NB on avg lower than both boards, and the MSI tends to OC alot higher due to being relaxxed. What ends up happening is giga is trailing in the top end by a rather large gap In 3d biased GT's.
MSI
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...rg_msi%202.JPG
ASUS
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...g_asus%202.JPG
GIGABYTE
http://chew.ln2cooling.com/qdig-file...g_giga%202.JPG
Thanks for the comparisation chew*.
Nice to see the boards differ quite a bit.
The Asus seems to take the top spot here, 3D result is interesting.
Ehhh this is just a 3d game test result compare, system tests paint a very diff picture, It's evident gigabyte runs a tighter ship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
As far as 3d gt's are concerned the best I can come up with is there is some sort of bandwidth wall with giga.
Need to test 3D05 then... I got slightly better scores with 01 and 06 on the Giga (best score out of 3 runs here) this with a GTX285 stock clocks and CPU at 3.4Ghz ( 1600mhz rams C8-8-8-24 and 2000Mhz Nb)
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/3Dmarks.jpg
F2 bios for the Giga and 1.9B3 for the MSI, OS Win7 64 Pro
Hi. I hope some1 can give some hint's for me. I have small problem with my memorys. I have ocz obsidian 2x2gb... http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...al_channel_kit
And i cant get those work in dual channel, only single channel works. I've allready tried those in both "channels" ddr3_1 and ddr3_3 or ddr3_2 and ddr3_4 but still same single channel problem.
Can someone help me plz little, this is my first amd board since 800mhz duron times..
My board is 790fxta-ud5 and cpu is 965BE C3
E: here's scrshot of cpu-z ect.. http://pallonlahti.sytes.net/kuvia/help.jpg
E: solved.. ;)
AOD compatibility please try this BIOS
http://rapidshare.com/files/358738448/79XTAUD5.F3f.html
hicookie
thanks i am on the F3A bios and no go with AOD
This download is a unopenable file.Quote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
Windows can't open and 7z are unable to open it.
So how is it opened?
it is not to open it is to flash on the mobo dircet
no, winrar opened it.
i extracted and uploaded the .bin for you. download 79xtaud5.BIN here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4193009/79xtaud5.BIN
LOL
I could flash the Bios F3f without problems ;)
Thanks for the bios :)
Bye!~
Quote:
Originally Posted by biohead
Thank you very much.:)
I could flash these BIOS and I had no problems with AOD :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
Thanks.-
Bye!~
With the F3F bios, the AMD Black Edition Memory Profile works now my 965-3BE.
It recognizes the 965-3Be, and the profiles works.
so is this bios safe to flash? any word on official f3 or a further beta? I got this mobo today with a 965 and its all working nicely out of the box on f2 so far.
I'm using the F3F bios and have had no problem with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
AOD works fine.
However remember flash at your own risk.
So far i like this bios.:D
Guys,any another link?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
From RS only can be downloaded 10 times.:down:
http://www.fatty.everon.pl/79xtaud5.BIN
here you've got stasio ;)
try this one; http://pallonlahti.sytes.net/79XTAUD5.zipQuote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thanks guys,got it!:up::up:
Hi All,
My first posting over here and I hope you can help.
I am trying to install Windows7 (x64, Ultimate) on a WD Caviar Black 1TB
SATA 6Gb/s hard disk (WD1002FAEX). I have connected the hard disk to the
Marvell 9128 SATA3 port on the Gigabyte GA-790FXTA-UD5 motherboard but by
some reason it is not possible to get Windows7 installed. It takes about 5
minutes before the first screen shows up of W7, then after selecting the
country, keyboard etc, it again takes about 5 minutes before the next W7
screen shows up. The disk is properly recognized and after creating a
partition of 200MB and formatting this partition, the installation starts.
However whent the installation is at about 20% ~30% completed, I get an
error message that the files cannot be writen to disk. Looks as if the disk
is not seen anymore. I have tried both AHCI and IDE mode on SATA3, tried
with and without the additional W7 drivers during the installation but all
fails. I also tried the default bios version F2, F3a and F3f but again all
fails. Contacted Gigabyte technical support but all that has been suggested
does not work.
Installation of the drive on a SATA2 port works properly so it doesn't look
as if the disk is defective. I have the strong impression that it is
related to the Marvell 9128 and/or bios firmware. Perhaps another
possibility is the computer case, I am using the Zalman MS1000-HS2 which
has a specific drive bay.
Any of you guys experienced the same problem? Any advice is very welcome as
I am running out of creative ideas.....
not sure but i'm willing to bet that the SB supplied sata ports are faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by M@rcB
Found it! The MS1000-HS2 is NOT SATA3 compatible :shock:
As mentioned, I am using only one drive, the WS1002FAEX which was installed in one of the removable drive bays. Installation of W7 when connected to the SATA2 port was no problem, all worked well. Installation of W7 when connected to the SATA3 port randomly resulted in unresponsiveness during W7 installation.
To test if the issues are caused by the removable bay, I removed the hard disk from the removable drive bay and connected the drive directly to the SATA3 port on the motherboard. The system directly booted from Windows7! I then re-installed the drive back into the removable drive bay, restarted the system and the initial issue showed up again!
To make sure the removable drive bay is causing the problems when connected to the SATA3 port, I did the same test again and again the same results. In other words, the MS1000-HS2 is not SATA3 compatible.
A quick comparison test by means of HD Tune 4.01 showed some improvement on access time (12.7 -> 12.3ms) and improvement on Burst rate (158MB/s -> 192MB/s).
glad to know your all set :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by M@rcB
GA-790FXTA-UD5
Rejoice!
The latest F3f beta BIOS that supports the 1090T Thuban processor also adds better CnQ/C1E support which works when playing with multipliers on BE processors. And no S3 issues discovered so far.
Finally that day has come, lovely excellent job GA BIOS programmers! :up:
At load & idle.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...E/f555ebed.png
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I would not necessarily be congratulating Gigabyte. They neglected support of this board for over 5 months after it's release. Like you I am still happy that they released the FDf(better than nothing) beta bios, which solved all the issues I was having.Quote:
Finally that day has come, lovely excellent job GA BIOS programmers!
I know quote a few FXTA owners in other forums who feel cheated by Gigabyte and are going to be purchasing other brands next time round. Such a shame considering that Gigabyte can make great AM3 boards(FXT-UD5-UD4) No matter how good the potential of there mobo is, without proper BIOS support it's value is down the toilet.
Fortunately for me, I just got my own mobo for a song 3 days ago so it was bearable for me - was impressed by the improved BIOS quality for my unlocked 550BE compared to my earlier testing a few months back. Just read about the complaints for the other owners who got theirs since the launch and yes, the BIOS updates do need to come faster for such a high end quality mobo.
(Sorry for necro post) Does anyone know if there's a way to stabilize -12V rail reported by motherboard in HW monitor when overclocking Thubans? Is this normal with this board?
On my system -12V gets crazy (my system is @FSB/HTT 250, 1090T at 3.75 1.375Vcore, NB 2500 1.25 V, 1666 CL7 RAM 1.575V) and -12 V is all over the place, from -10 V down to -14.5V when under heavy load (prime95 blend or f@h). Raising NB voltage or PLL voltage did nothing to diminish this. I already tried 2 different PSUs, Corsair 650HX and CM 1kW Silent Pro, to eliminate PSU as problem. Things with -12V get much worse when going any faster (max reported is -15.5V @4.25 CPU 2.75 NB).
I already asked gigabyte's tech support, and this is what they replied:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your kindly mail and enquiry. We are sorry that we would not provide the suggestion/solution for overclocking issue. Thank you for your time and understanding.
Best Regards,
GIGABYTE
who cares what -12v reads in software :shrug:
Well I do if it damages my motherboard:yepp:
So you are saying this is nothing to worry about?
What he is saying is test it with an accurate meter and stop paying attention to "software" for voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by k0ST
of course man, ignore software readings :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by k0ST
:slap: I guess I do tend to relay on software (maybe too) much.
I trust my CoreTemp for reporting accurate temperature, prime95 for testing stability, cpu-z for cpu/memory clocks... The only thing that stood out was damn -12V reported by HW Monitor
(I assumed that's the culprit of my bad OC result :hitself:)
Thank you guys for replies :toast:
software that reads those types of voltages is never correct
if you want to know what your 12V rail is doing just get a DMM and plug probes into molex connector. I always forgot where 5V and 12V rails are so i just plug in red probe on one end and black in the middle and check, if 5V change to the other end, leave black in middle for ground and you will see it doesnt really change much from its 12V mark
Thanks, but I'm not worried about 12 V. It's minus 12V one that got me upset. How do I measure that one?
Umm same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by k0ST
Your PSU has + and -12v outputs.
:shakes: helpful posters
:ROTF:
OK, for what is worth, DMM readings from the PSU are quite steady -12.01 V +/- .01V. Same is for the rest of voltages, same/minimal fluctuations of +/- .01V. On the other hand, HW Monitor Voltage readings go all over the place.