Pics look great :up: ....
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but congraulations on your new position at MurderMod ....
I just saw the news update... I guess so much for being retired:p:
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Pics look great :up: ....
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but congraulations on your new position at MurderMod ....
I just saw the news update... I guess so much for being retired:p:
I keep my eyes on you Shazza O.o :P
Looking forward to see what wonder you will do with the case:D
Im waiting on a packet from dual-brain and then i have to sleeve my brain out:P
hehe ... still retired :up::up::up: Just helping Charles a bit, in between vacations, that is :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jpm804
Another 10 days in Scotland - currently touring the Outer Hebrides islands.
Anxious to get back to the build, but that will have to wait. Currently having fun making new friends - although I think she's laughing at me:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...84_2jgrU-M.jpg
Spent a couple hours at an old church and graveyard today - no one else around. Quite interesting.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...33_hxJxL-M.jpg
And, found a nice boat (had to get something in here about water ;) ):
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...77_zGyZm-M.jpg
Hey Sharon, got a question for you, about the build :D Or really anybody can answer.
What size rads can be placed inside the Black Pearl? Would it by any chance fit a 120.4?
Looks like there should not be a problem with the 120.4 in the bottom - probably just need to reverse the PSU mount so it sits above the radiator. Actually, I will probably end up going with a 120.4 if my plans for the side panel work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
What does it take to reverse the mount of the PSU? Custom work or does that case allow for reverse mounting out of the box?Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
the bp should be the same like the v2000 so a 120.4 will definitely fit the bottom chamber.
Thanks, sargantas - it's pretty much the same case except for the front fan controller, so I think it should work fine.
@CP - here's a pic of the back. It looks like you can just reverse the PSU bracket. I know that PPCs also sells additional brackets for the PSU on the V2000, in case you prefer to mount it sideways.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...26_dc8qN-M.jpg
well u can reverse the psu bracket but the fan of the psu will be pointed at the midplate.
that's why I modded míne to rotate the psu 180°.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sargatanas
Good Point ... I'm planning to use the Antec Signature 850, which has the fan on the back, so I should be able to just rotate my PSU plate (I assume?).
when u flip it the psu with fans on bottom have it up against the midplate.. :/ i don't like it.. it heats it up.
uhm yea the antec will work flawlessly just rotate the bracket and u are fine.
but most of the psu's have their fan on the side ^^
Yep - that's why I thought I'd use the Antec instead of the Corsair HX1000w that's waiting in the wings :) Still haven't given up the idea of mounting the PSU in the front bays above the midplate - still thinking on it.
Thanks for the pic Sharon, and for the info.
THanks to everyone else as well. I'm going to look on PPC's to see what they have to offer. I'll post back some info soon.
Sharon,
is this what you were talking about from PPCS?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24227
Yep - they have that one, and maybe another one or two.
btw the brackets of a lianli 343b fit too, don't know if there are some which might help you but I use that one to have a 120mm fan instead of the 2x80
For the psu flipping over issue, I drilled out holes in the midplates, that way the psu gets fresh air and air moves arounf vrm and cpu area. Easy breezy beautiful.... erm :cool:
Thank you guys, been very helpful. I have a tech station coming for my i7 rig. But I want to build another rig maybe an AMD/ATI rig which I will put into a case. Since Sharon created this log I've been having dreams with this case and its price :rofl: So I am highly considering it.
i would just use a pc&c silencer ;) i'm swapping it for my antec psu.
Or just make a completely new plate......
Its not completely finished. Sorry Shazza not trying to steal your thread.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...o/psuplate.jpg
No problem, Jonni :up: I like your new plate.
Love the boat pic! If you happen to see any pirates in Scotland, take some pics! :D
y'argh - do I count? I came from Largs where there's lots of boaties!Quote:
Originally Posted by CptDreadFlint
No?
Oh well.....
~Bex
Issue i have with the making of a new plate is that the psu's cables are all in front and really hard to get hidden away properly. Also it'd look a bit nasty for the midplate to have a hole around the cpu area =( so i must say :/ if you plan on flipping it like that best , for looks, would be to get psus with smaller rear fans.
I have to place the psu on my way becouse my Pc p&c 1200w dosent fit in there:P
But i have a good plan to get my 1200w, Hwlabs 480, Thermochill PA 120.3 and 2x655 in the bottom:)
Looking forward to next update shazza;)
Have anybody here used Koolanze 120x38mm fans?
You mind sharing your plans with us? :D Sorry Sharon, don't want to hijack your thread, but I figured this info can be helpful towards your log as well :up:, hope you don't mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Water Dog
As far as the Koolance fans, no I have no used any of their fans till this date, sorry.
Hi Shazza.
I have just read your work log from the start and are envies of you.
As you just happened to have two motherboards and radiators (of all shape's and size's) just sitting around waiting and wishing they had a new pc case to call home.
Nice challenge to have.
Congratulations on retirement, hope you had an excellent holiday and good luck with your new project.
Now just waiting for more updates.
Cp: Of course i will share my plans.........when my worklog is up:rofl:
Just kidding, ( remove everything in the bottom ) the quad goes nice on the left side and the thermochill on the other side. I use 3 fans between them...so push and pull in a wierd way.
The psu i hope i can be under the mid-plate and then make som nice holdings to my dual 655.
But i will make a worklog here becouse i know its so many talented folks here that can give advice and so on:up: Got my sleeving and some more from dualbrain yesterday so i hope it isnt long to i can make a worklog soon.
the plan is a little more, but i hope you see where i want:)
If you have some input..i will gladly hear them.
ps: My english isnt my stongest side.
Im waiting to gt some answar regarding powder-coating and some alu-work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Water Dog
Awesome. I currently have a 120.4 but my TT Armour+case is just not the greatest for it, I had it mounted to the rear via a radbox, but it was just hard to move it around as the RAD overlapped the top by a considerable amount. I'm looking for something that can house it inside, and I think I just found my answer :D.
One of the reason to i pick this case was that it have almost every thing i want ( nothing is perfect )
And Shazza was starting on a new pro. so i figured out that having some more folks with the same case is not stupid ( for me )
I have oc and used computers some years now, but i have not alot of expierience for this:P
Sorry for this ot Shazza:S
The first build I saw of hers was "fun with the torture rack", link on first page. I thought it was amazing what she turned that Torture Rack into, so I'm really looking forward to this project. Damn Scotland took her away :rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Water Dog
MWAHAHAHAHA SHES ALL MINE NOW!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Us OC;ing gals stick together :P
~Bex
:eek::eek: :ROTF: You Oc'ing gals are one elite group of Human Beings. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
CP: Coming with me to Scottland?, we are going to take Shazza back:rofl:
This is more important then doing things in the real life:P
Hoping you have a blast over there Shazza:up:
We'll get our butts kicked by the OC Girls of Scotland :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Water Dog
*cracks knuckles* I'll beat both yo asses back - shes staying :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
Shes my b-day gift :P
~Bex
Black pearl only exists in an inverted atx motherboard version? Am I wrong? BTW love the case and worklog :)
yup only inverted atx. Rebadged Lain Li v2000
lol - you guys and gals are funny :)
No problem going OT here. This whole log was started to generate some ideas for the Black Pearl build, so post away. I have received confirmation that I have a fresh new side panel arriving, along with a PA120.4, and some Gentle Typhoon fans. Working on my side panel configuration - not sure I'll be able to pull off my idea, but ready to give it a try.
We are truly enjoying our Scotland tour - spent several days in the Outer Hebrides - no internet (***gasp***), but it was wonderful. The view outside our hotel window at Castlebay (sorry - don't mean to litter up the LC section with travel pics, but it is truly a beautiful country!):
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...38_pB9UG-M.jpg
Wow, Scotland looks beautiful Sharon. :up: Can't wait for your new parts to arrive :)
That looks like a sweet build Shazza! The Scotland picture is awesome.
Dam! Wish I could look at from my window, picture perfect.:up:
I do every day - well - ok - not that exactly but hey - close enough :PQuote:
Originally Posted by kgtiger
~Bex
Those Scots are some crazy Overclockers, i mean cmon, watercooling a castle?! :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
^^^rofl
WOW, amazing pictures there Shazza
Looking forward to your build, looks great so far
=( is she back yet? *wants to see more action with the black pearls....*
hehe - I'm back. Been a bit busy, and currently working on a small diversion - will post it up later. Still working on my side panel designs for the BP...
Hey Shaz! <3 good to see you back ;) Can't wait to see how your build progresses!
good to hear from you Shazza, now don't make us wait anymore! :p:
My latest diversion ... rebuilt the Torture Rack (as a test rack, not to be "pretty"). Planning to test out a number of Radiator configurations on my EVGA Micro-ATX board. Will report the results in a separate thread if I make any progress. Too dark to get any decent photos, but here's the idea:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...98_qeySW-L.jpg
what are you using to hold your HDD?
shazza, that still looks good :rofl:
Thanks, CP ;)
For holding the hardrive, I'm just using one of the drive cages from the Antec 900 Two case. Only the middle is being used right now - there's actually a 128GB G-Skill Falcon SSD in the enclosure. Another part of this "experiment" was to load 64-bit Windows 7 and test out the SSD drive. So far, works like a champ. Only problem I had was sorting out the 64-bit driver for my Linksys wireless adapter. Currently running Boinc-64-bit for crunching to test stability. I'm planning to test a number of radiator/fan combos on the i7 920. Sorting out what I'll ultimately put in the Black Pearl.
I also have a couple of 1TB drives I plan to add down the road. Want to test if I can get a reliable back-up strategy for my other PCs with Windows 7, while deciding if I need to run a Server OS.
All part of the "evolution" of this rig :p:
I guess we have to be nice to Shazza now seeing she has the ban hammer. :p:
Looking forward to seeing more updates. You might be seeing a build log coming from me soon as I think I am going to pull the trigger on the I5 build within the next few weeks. :yepp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
Looking forward to seeing some i5 builds.
(no need for ban hammers around here :cool:)
Hey Shaz what's going on with the Black Pearl? You putting the stuff from the torture rack into it? :)
really? O got mine from hereQuote:
Originally Posted by rjkoneill
but it was £180 when i got it
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/prod...de=CAA-CSBPWCR
best deal by far in UK everywhere else is like 200~
love this case, im slowly building up parts to watecool in this case, and so this build i hope will give me a few ideas :)
Good to see ya back home Shazza.
Looking forward to your test results.
I haven't seen one around here, but now that you guys brought up i5. Theres a nifty little thread over here. I haven't really read much of it, but should have some nice info for those looking into i5. :)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=103362
There are a couple of OC threads on here with the I5s in the Intel section and I have found a few others floating around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Patty
It has its limits, but still seems like it will be fine for what I do. :)
I probably didn't search much, or I just missed it. Anyhow, I'm sure each thread has something the other doesn't. So read'em all :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
any news :( i love this build we need moarrr
OK, OK, already :p: I was wobbling on using the Micro-ATX board or my Gigabyte Smurf stuff in the Black Pearl. I set up the Micro on the Torture Rack to test which radiator I might use, and, I like the red and black so will go with that for Round 1 with the Black Pearl:
Here's the thread I started to describe the radiator testing. Will be updated as I go along. Like I said, I like the red and black better than I thought I would:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...10_ZczG3-M.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...58_X8h3o-M.jpg
Going to rip the Black Pearl apart and paint the interior ... starting that today, so let's hope I don't kill it.
A couple pics of the test layout with the Gigabyte board in ... was planning to paint the inside white or blue, hadn't decided. But, now that I'm going red and black, think I'll paint the inside red.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...44_ZUQb2-M.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...29_VtpRM-M.jpg
my god the black pearl looks great as is and its only got a mobo and PSU in it :rofl:
Red and black gets my vote :D
Thanks guys. Yep the red and black is growing on me (guess that's why we see so many nice Classified and Bloodrage builds now).
OK ... actual progress on the Black Pearl today. Have it 95% apart. I'm pretty good at removing rivets. However, I have never in my life popped a rivet back in :eek:
This makes me either a) very gutsy, or b) very stupid. I can tell you my husband did not vote for "a."
I did take photos as I tore it down, in case I had problems figuring out how to put it back together. Somehow, I'm not so sure these are going to help me (nervous, anyone?):
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...43_43maa-M.jpg
Some shots of the disassembled Black Pearl:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...39_e74Ww-M.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...10_tqGdg-M.jpg
The hardware watched the process, trembling and anxious about the state of its future home:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...78_vdffr-M.jpg
I do not believe I did this ... I can only imagine what trauma my attempt to paint the interior parts will bring.
if you need all the rest of us black pearl owners would gladly help with new pics if you need them xD me being one ;)
Yet another reason to trade him in for a better model. :p: :D
Looking good though, love the action shot.
Looking great, Shazza :up: Glad you went with the Red and Black theme. That was my vote.
Any teaser shots of the paint job thus far?
I'm certain it will turn out perfect. (No pressure or anything.) ::D
Looking good so far Shazza.
Hay, I also had a beach towel like that some 30 odd years ago too.
Gracias, Caoder. Most of the pics came out fine, but I may very well reach out for help as I'm putting it back together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caoder
Ha! Nope - gonna keep him. He keeps me grounded (and he's a heck of a cook!).Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
Thanks, Cpt. Getting ready to start the prep work now for painting. I'm not at all sure it will come out well - I've never painted anything bigger than the stuff I did for the Smurf Blue Torture Rack. I'll post up my progress - even if it's bad. One thing, is, I'll keep at it 'til I get it right. I define success as not getting so frustrated I give up, order a new case, and send it for powder coating.Quote:
Originally Posted by CptDreadFlint
Thanks, kgtiger :up: That towel is at least 15 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by kgtiger
omg looks good already i envy you
tough, I would go white-Blue, that would make it a nice smurf-computer ^^
I am sure you will do fine. Will you be using rattle cans, airbrush, etc. I dont want to insult your intellegence because I dont know you, but find some self etching primer for that bare aluminum. It will bond much better than standard primer and you wont have to scuff the metal as much. Preparation and patience are key when painting and judging the quality of your other projects it seems you have both. Good Luck!
Sweet, Shazza is back ;)
Nice shots, red black theme looks really nice!
Thanks again guys. The feedback keeps me motivated to get something done. And, no worries, Oli4v ... smurfy will come to life again in the future!
OK ... an actual, real-life-did-some-work update. Decided to try my hand at painting, so worked with a piece I wasn't planning on re-using as a test panel. First I sanded lightly with 320 Grit, then cleaned thoroughly.
Used self-etching primer (thanks for thinking of that, Jonni - fortunately, that is one of the recommendations I ran across in my research. But never hesitate to suggest something, cause you never know what people do or don't know). Sprayed a couple of light coats, let sit for an hour, then sprayed the panel.
I used two different colors - one on each side. The first, is Dupli-Color Red Engine Enamel:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...72_f59Dk-L.jpg
The second is a Dupli-Color Red Metal Specks paint:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...53_FJCBD-L.jpg
It's really hard to show the colors correctly. For these pics, I'm using jpegs out of the camera with no adjustments to try to show the comparison. Unfortunately, it looks like I moved the lighting just a bit for the two pics on the Torture Rack, but I think you can get the idea. The Engine Enamel has a bit more orange to it, is kind of a semi-gloss/not quite matte. The Metal Spec paint is darker red. I tried to get a pic showing the metal flake, but didn't do very well - here goes anyway:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...50_WruhL-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...77_eEdhx-L.jpg
And, a shot of the cans and the little spray booth (with air exhaust to the outside) that I used. This is what my husband uses for his model train work. It's big enough for all the smaller parts - but things like the motherboard tray will need to be done outside.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...71_xfk5n-L.jpg
Looks good. :up:
Looking good there Shazza.
I like the engine red myself or maybe a more blood red. The Red Metal Specks paint seams to look a litle pinkish, is that how it realy looks.
Nice work, and I am glad you found out about the self etching primer it makes a big difference. I figured you would have done your research.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kgtiger
I think you hit it on the head, kgtiger. Actually, either will work, but I'm going to tour the local Auto Parts stores tomorrow to see if I can get something in between the two.
The engine red is just a little too orange, but doesn't look bad with the components. The Metal Specks Retro Red is closer to a cherry red. Again, it looks fine in real life with the components. It has the added advantage that it is easier to apply than the Engine Red. If I planned to do the outside of a case, I'd definitely go the Metal Specks version - for the inside, :shrug:
very beautiful photo's for every pic's that comes up shazza...:up:
is it you always give proper lighting or you only using daylight ?...
awesomely beautiful, the picture look so clear, without any single dust captured...
good luck with your progress :up:
If you decide differently when it comes to mounting the PSU in the front bays, have you completely scrapped the idea of throwing a vertical rad within the front bays? ... That is, in addition with any horizontal rads you may or may not implement on the bottom?Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
If you haven't and don't want to deal to much with mounting a rad vertically in the front, Dave's rad mounting brackets come to mind.
BTW: I really like the way or process you're going about this build Shazza. It's an example I need to use as a reminder to be more flexible and open to different possibilities. :up:
I like the first one more, the one without as much texture :)
good work =)
Appreciate the feedback. I know it's hard to tell the colors on the screen. BUT ... I did find the same Duplicolor engine paint as the "orange-ish" one in a better red. While the color reproduction is not perfect, I think you can tell that the new red is between the other two. (I guess I'm showing these just to prove I did something today, cause it's about as exciting as watching paint dry ;) )
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...37_4wJPq-L.jpg
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...06_ygPy2-L.jpg
@anubis - I'm trying to take decent photos, but still learning. Some are taken with one photoflood on them (reflected onto the subject with a reflective umbrella). Others - like the ones today, were taken out side in the shade.
@xaxis - I think I'll go with a fairly traditional radiator mounting this iteration. I do have some of Dave's rad brackets on hand for another project :up:
Progress from this morning follows. I wanted to plug the spare holes in the mobo tray, since I was going to be painting it. Thanks to Jonni Nitro for the hints on how he did it in his Black Pearl.
The setup ... note, making progress here, as I was walking outside when my husband said "just use the kitchen counter." Not ideal for photos, but I wasn't going to turn him down when he was being helpful.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...75_ukTkW-M.jpg
The tray cleaned of fingerprints and smudge - lots of scratches but those will be (hopefully) covered up in the painting process.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...09_HU4Tu-M.jpg
Taped the back of the board, as suggested by Jonni Nitro:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...71_8WqPJ-M.jpg
Bondo applied ... oh @#%!@#!!! ... they say you have three minutes to work with it. I tried to fill all the holes with one batch. Dang, should have just done some, then mixed another batch. Not like I need that whole can for this tray. I see a re-do coming...
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...38_T8kgB-M.jpg
A close-up. You can see where the bondo was getting dry and didn't want to spread. Not sure it filled the holes.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...12_t6evd-M.jpg
I brought out "Bondi the Bondo" bear for luck with the next step. Sanded off the excess bondo ... used 80 Grit, then 150, then 220. Tried not to sand too hard. A tad concerned about the mess I made with sanding on the tray, but let's hope the primer covers my incompetence.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...96_Pfod4-M.jpg
Closer look at the filled in holes:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...71_GxToC-M.jpg
And, a view of the holes from the back - no sanding or clean-up required.
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...56_NABWo-M.jpg
I know this is old hat to many of you, but I've never done this stuff. In fact, I was quite nervous before trying it :p: Next step is a good clean-up, a light coating of self-etching primer, then some regular primer and wet-sanding, then some paint !!! (I'll spare you the step by step photos of the next few steps).
Hey shazza, all looking great so far!! I have to say the engine red looks better as it's more bright and will give even better contrast with the black paint.
Good luck painting, just take your time and spray in light coats. ;)
shazza, I can't stop wondering how you are doing such pictures :up: Some of them looks like they was proccesed in photoshop for a couple of hours, but I 99% sure that they don't :)
You can do nothing for your build, just take the photos :rofl:
@ Zeus - I hear you on light coats of spray paint. That's the hardest thing for me to get the hang of.
@ aka_GK - Thanks for the kind words on the photos. I can assure you these are very lightly processed - downloaded to Lightroom2, then some clarity, contrast and sharpening adjustments and they're uploaded to smugmug. Lighting is the key, and as you can tell, I don't always have decent lighting. Looks like I could use some White Balance adjustment in a few as well ;)
OKAY ... I get so excited about doing something new, I keep getting ahead of myself. I forgot I wanted to cut out holes in the motherboard tray for the SATA and Power/USB cables. So ... after spending an hour or so making sure I had the right placement (better to do this before taking everything apart!!!), I drew my lines and went searching for help. I thought this would be a good time for dremel practice. Nope, I was told it was time to use the Skill Saw. First, we drilled some holes to get started:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...26_XuAkb-M.jpg
Working on a stool is not ideal, but the workbench area my husband built in the garage is too tall for me!
After being mauled by the saw ...
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/6...14_L4Ghp-M.jpg
Happy to report no fingers were lost in this exercise. Although we are now short one blade, and my ears are ringing from the "NEVER PULL THE SAW BLADE OUT WHEN IT'S RUNNING," I have a cutout. Also no tears were shed, so that is progress with my Power Tool Tutorials :rofl:
Since Bondi isn't going to do that filing, off I go...
LOL, looking good Shazza
very good job with the bondo Shaz!
Loving it Shazza! It's more like a story than a worklog which is much more entertaining! Love the mascot too!
The red engine enamal came out great! I had no doubt your paint job would come out stellar, shazza!
I'm not a sparkly paint fan, but yours seems to work.
Oh...and this pic:
Reminds me that if my 9-month-old niece got into her little Little Mermaid shoes, stepped in a puddle of Bondo and proceeded to walk around on my side panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
Good job Shazza, that MB tray will look great. I hate how smugded up the aluminum gets while your working with it, but since you are painting its no big deal.
Metal Specks. That's a new Duplicolor flavor to me. Thanks. Looking great. You are quite the case modder.
Nice work there Shazza, comming along nicely.