Nice test.
I think gap between 750 and 920 would be wider, if used faster memory modules.
SPI 32M is quite disappointing here.
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Nice test.
I think gap between 750 and 920 would be wider, if used faster memory modules.
SPI 32M is quite disappointing here.
i5-750 is damn screaming fast for its price ($196 expected). Having reasonable performance advantage over PII-955 and also lesser power consumption it will give PII-955 to run for its money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadov
Here is direct comparision i5-750 vs PII-955:
http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...7/1702311.html
I doubt it will screw anyone since it was already known for ages. BTW, AMD also changes sockets sometimes.Quote:
On a side note I wonder how Intel will screw everyone with all these new sockets. Its going to be amusing to watch all these "upgrades", where users find their motherboards incompatible. :clap:
Yes the turbo mode is quite useful(goes up to 3.2Ghz iirc).But many users won't stick with default clocks anyway and will OC their systems. Plus AMD will release the 3.4Ghz model within the same price range the 955 occupied and probably another 3.6Ghz model in Q4.These should be enough to battle most of the i5 range.Quote:
Originally Posted by kl0012
Core i7 870 OCed
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231925Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
:up:
Well said!
Core i5 750 from Fry's
http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/1...W5Q4lv_1_1.jpghttp://www.hardocp.com/images/news/1...W5Q4lv_1_2.jpg
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2009/08/...essors_in_wildQuote:
Remember how we told you yesterday that Fry’s had listed the Core i5-750 on its website for a short time before catching the mistake and pulling the listing? Well, [H] reader Matt H. just let me know that he got his order in yesterday (before the ad came down) and the processor arrived this morning. Sweet! Now all he needs is a motherboard.
I think that pretty much settles it that not only far eastern etailers got these chips in stock. It's just US and europe are more strict with the NDA. :rolleyes:
At least it promises good for when the day for the meant-to-be-launch actually comes. Both Lynnfield and P55 motherboard supply seems to be healthy if there's signs of leakage from both far east and US a month beforehand.
Would you like to pick one up? :D
Core i5 750 in stock, same day shipping @Fry's
http://www.frys.com/product/5981624?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
4 different models of Gigabyte's P55 motherboards sale at here (Turkey). Though there's no sign of CPU's yet. Can we expect an earlier release from Intel?
ASUS mobos in stock in new zealand, no chips though either
i7 870 and Gigabyte P55-UD6 hitting retail shelves in Australia.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=3964510Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
For me, that just made i7 920 a much better chip for gaming... seems it beats out the i7 8xxx quite handily in games... those 20 lanes are going to choke lynnfield with the new GPU's coming out at high res, any xfire or sli set up... going to be cpu bottlenecked it seems, qpi ftw. Surprising how well amd's chips keep up as well, price perf wise.. definitely nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
Intel i5 750 retail chip
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=2469250Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
the thing about those 20 lanes is... for me i do NOT SLI or Xfire or anything i just buy a good card and keep it until it doesn't suit me anymore... and no single pci-e card will use all the 2.0 bandwidth just yet... maybe next gen (doubtful) or the next (gtx500 - might but i suspect the next is truly when we'll see a single 2.0 slot maxed out) and by this time i'll need to upgrade my processor...
lynnfield would have been great if it game out at the same time as nehalem... but it didn't :(
I am not sure I understand what you are sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by orangekiwii
Lynnfield is as fast as Bloomfield clock for clock in games
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcon...04&pageid=5452
http://forums.vr-zone.com/overclocki...ml#post7077452Quote:
Originally Posted by clon22
pretty cool seeing one out in the wild :)
i7 860 and MSI P55 GD80 Test
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=232754
If those temps do indeed go with that speed, that's pretty insane. Those are the temps I'd get if I were running at half speed on my i7 920 :p.
There it is! Gigabyte True 24-phase design, Sayaa Edition FTWQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8931/200809.jpg
It says 750 vs phenom 2 955
Here's the translated version:-
Single 3777 3673
Multi 14087 13271
Sysmark 07: --
E-learning 153 171
Video 240 210
3d 201 190
x264 70.9 74
Winrar 2711 2837
The original lang is Hindi "India"
EVGA P55 E658 FTW NF200 Preview + Bios Screenshots + I7 920 vs I5 750
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/....php?p=3973798
Core i5 750 Overclocking Preview @HardOCP
http://hardocp.com/article/2009/08/2...cking_preview/
Thnaks for the post...
I like the video reviews. I wish more would do so. :clap:
Thanks Onethreehill... Can't wait for more. Temps look good considering the poor cooling.
Core i5 750 Performance Preview @HardOCP
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/...rmance_preview
^^
is it me or does HT doesn't really make that much of a difference even with apps that are aware of it?
i7 870 & Gigabyte P55 UD5
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=616386
Big DQuote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
:clap: :clap: :clap:
i7 860 & Gigabyte P55 UD6
http://www.donanimhaber.com/Turkiyed...mesi-15413.htm
i7 870, i7 860 and i5 750 Tested
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/games...7-on-a-budget/
I wish these two bit sites wouldn't test new CPU's with 18month old GPU's. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
LOL, i7-8xx is even slightly faster clock for clock than i7-9xx in this review. :D The results are also VERY static, there's no variance whatsoever, all graphs are like comparable to each other. So either it's like really accurately done tests or he's not using same settings for each system or the numbers are made up. I'm getting a 860 in any case but I honestly have hard time believing this, swapping i7-9xx and i7-8xx numbers around, then it would be what I expected. :p: Anyway we're talking only like 50~150MHz clock for clock advantage or 2~4% but still a bit fishy IMO. Must be a fast P55 (bios version) vs slow X58 motherboard at efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
why canīt they test with default settings?
why they using DDR3-1600 for Core i7 9x0 CPUs? Its supports official only DDR3-1066 / 2.13Ghz NB. With DDR3-1600 is the NB overclocked to 3.2Ghz!
True, meh :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
i5 750 and Gigabyte P55 UD6
http://www.tweak.dk/review/Gigabyte_...5_750/1005/1/1
my result with air cooling (ac freezer xtreme) and a GB P55-UD5
http://img3.abload.de/img/4.1ghz-primedc8x.png
I'm really liking the look of the power usage of P55 and a I7 860, substantially less than x58 / 920. Now other than a few specialized workloads I don't see x58 / triple channel as being worth it. My concerns with having only 16 PCIE 2.0 lanes aren't too worrisome as I'll more than likely end up using another dual gpu card ( and since they communicate between each other on board that reduces the bandwidth required over 2 separate pcbs ) Even so I'd be shocked if this upcoming batch of cards (5xxx / GT300 ) will see any tangible benefits with 2x 16 vs 2x 8 let alone the following generation. Honestly the only thing I can see x58 being good for is tri and quad configurations and particular server applications.
Now all this said my only remaining concern is launch pricing. If I can't get a P55 mobo ( I have my eye on the MSI it looks impressive ) a 860 and 8gb of DDR3 for at least $200 less than a 920 / x58 / 6GB setup then I won't bother. I like the 3.46 turbo on the 860 along with its lower platform power usage and I don't intend to overclock this system ( I want a quiet air system using what I have available to me atm ) much if at all, so all this in mind I'm personally leaning towards P55. I'd sooner use the saved money towards a SSD as that will probably do more for overall performance (my real world usage at least ) than x58 and tri channel ever would.
Do you figure my logic is sound or am I insane? :)
i'm in the same boat as you are and i'm looking build a workstation to run sql server/pentaho. I'm going in for p55 as well, because of power characteristics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
i just dont think it'll be 200 less compared x58 more like 70-100. considering you can just save on the motherboard and hardly anything else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
omg, very nice 4100 and 3200 MHz at NB ! Whats some benchmarks with this? (il looking for comparsion 4100 MHz and default NB vs 4100 MHz and 3200 MHz NB, can u do it? ):up:
Also Chri$ch can u add the scores of 955 for the games, and as FlanK3r said stock NB vs 3200Mhz NBQuote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
default NB isnīt possible because the NB multiplier is locked.
Edit: here a result with watercooling (but not a good cooling because i have no 1156 cooler)
http://www.abload.de/img/4.3ghzw44u.png
It boils down to what a well rounded board will cost I suppose. If they really will be 200ish it will help but still your probably right. Most of the x58 boards I've considered are around 330-380 CND and since I do want to ge a 4x2GB kit I expect them to cost a tad more than a 3x2 closing that gap even further. I hope to see the 860 selling for 320-330cnd similar to the 920 right now so your 75-100 figure is probably more realistic. My previous motherboards have been high end chipsets / packages and although they've been solid for the amount I ever overclocked, its been alot of extra money wasted for no good reason so that again makes a cheaper P55 more attractive (I've spent 350-400cnd on my last 3 boards ; 200 is more like it if it still gets the job done )Quote:
Originally Posted by geo
Still, for a faster turbo and less power draw (thus heat ; I was concerned about x58 cooling and psu requirements using my current case and psu ) I won't feel the need to have to upgrade anything other than the mobo ram and cpu. Now if only those OCZ Collosus drives would show up :) (not quite ready to settle on the Intel X25M G2 in spite of these )
Turbo multis are not possible yet?
Turbo is possible, but i donīt use it with OC.
Turbo Enabled 3.4Ghz stock right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chri$ch
Turbo is 3.2Ghz on the 750, 3.46 on the 860 and 3.6 on the 870.
My bad sorry, 3.4 on the 860 rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
hmm nice turbo modes there, but did you assign the threads manually?
Cause the windows scheduler usually doesn't do it that way. :D
yes i did ;)
Chri$ch it would be nice to see a test of the i5 750 with the stock clocks (3.2 with turbo) against the i7 920 (2.8 with turbo) also stock to see whether the turbo advantage is a match for the 920's HT :up:
Benches @ stock with turbo can you see here..
http://www.awardfabrik.de/prozessore...s.-i3-540.html
but i donīt have a i7-920 system to test it :(
Core i7 870 Review
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/CPU/...re-i7-870.html
When does the NDA expire so that sites like Anandtech can review the Lynnfield generation?
I heared the 8th september in France.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad Boga
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Ai Overclock Tuner .................. [Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting .................... [18]
Intel SpeedStep Tech .............. [Enabled]
Intel TurboMode Tech .............. [Disabled]
Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode ... [Auto]
BCLK Frequency ...................... [200]
PCIe Frequency ....................... [100]
DRAM Frequency ..................... [1600Mhz]
QPI Frequency ........................ [Auto]
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st
CAS# Latency : 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 9
RAS# Precharge : 9
RAS# ActivateTime : 27
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
CPU Differential Amplitude ............ [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew ......................... [Auto]
____________________________________
CPU Voltage Mode ...................... [Manual]
Offset Voltage ........................... [Disabled]
Fixed Voltage ............................. [1.23500]
IMC Voltage .............................. [Auto]
Dram Voltage ............................. [1.50]
CPU PLL Voltage ......................... [1.80]
PCH Voltage .............................. [Auto]
____________________________________
Load-Line Calibration .................. [Enabled]
CPU Spread Spectrum ................. [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum ................ [Disabled]
200 x 18 = 3600MHz
Rams: 1600Mhz Cl9
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7550/94337762.png
What is the specs on the Bench system...?Quote:
Originally Posted by LinkinParkBoy
Antec Three Hundred
Asus P7P55D
I5 750
Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Rev 2
Mushkin 1600Mhz Cl9 (Tri channel Kit) 2 dimms eheh
Corsair VX550W
nVidia GTX 275
Temps seem alright for a 20 eur cooler :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by LinkinParkBoy
Have you worked with that cooler before ?
Yap, in phenom builds i use the AC 64 PRO, E8*** and Q*** the Freezer 7 PRO, and i will use this one in the i5īs. Obvious it cant be compared to the Noctua coolers for example, but they are certainly the best when it comes to price/perfomance/quality. It comes with MX-2 pre applied on the cooler, and its very silent and you can still do a good OC. This models can handle cpuīs with a TDP of 95W, but when it comes to the i7 920, its better to use the Freezer Xtreme Rev2
Here you have a few photos of some of our builds:
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...2777Medium.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...a/IMG_2780.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...a/IMG_2728.jpg
http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/o...a/IMG_2740.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by LinkinParkBoy
Thanks!
I've built several systems this summer for other people, but I'm building a rig based off the new Raven 2 from Silverstone. Will be probably being using the MSI "Big Bang" board, but going for low noise and efficiency.
Aesthetics count, I can only wish Noctua weren't so fugly... :rolleyes:
i5 750 Tested
http://forums.vr-zone.com/overclocki...0-testing.html