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08-05-2009, 01:40 AM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Isn't Westmere just a code name based on the "Nehalem" architecture or am I missing something here?

Just like AMD "K10.5" is used in both Shanghai and Istanbul for example?

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe
08-05-2009, 01:46 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P
08-05-2009, 01:51 AM
v0dka

JCornell what is the temperature of this chip under load? I know it is ES, and that it is not fully mature perhaps, but I'm curious as to how much the die shrink balances the extra cores.
08-05-2009, 02:39 AM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.
08-05-2009, 03:30 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.

itll be so small you wont notice it... for benching itll help though i guess... at least in some benches.

but intel made it very clear not to expect much of a boost from westmere, sandybridge is supposed to be a big perf boost iirc.
08-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Chad Boga

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield :)

Heh, I always think of 65nm Core 2 derivatives as simply "Conroe" and the 45nm derivatives as "Penryn", even though Intel uses different names for Dual and Quad of the same generation.
08-05-2009, 06:56 AM
Chumbucket843

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.
08-05-2009, 07:20 AM
Vozer

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Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.

We all know this, but... have you noticed one thing?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ithout_aes.png

I see no AES instructions. :shrug:

It is because CPU-Z can't detect it yet, or this CPU is still an early ES, or...?
08-05-2009, 07:33 AM
Hornet331

^
they dont have a marketing name for it right now :p

SSE4.2 was NNI (nehalem new instruction).
08-06-2009, 06:45 AM
Chri$ch

http://img2.abload.de/img/wtmintelgu...dhfx575szb.jpg

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm
08-06-2009, 07:12 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

http://img2.abload.de/img/wtmintelgu...dhfx575szb.jpg

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm

and?
whats special about that slide?
08-06-2009, 07:18 AM
FlanK3r

Think, westemere (32nm) wiil only mainstream and extreme, not middle highend....
08-06-2009, 07:42 AM
sholvaco

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Originally Posted by saaya

and?
whats special about that slide?

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.
08-06-2009, 07:50 AM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

and?
whats special about that slide?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

right.
08-06-2009, 08:08 AM
Vozer

Now let's guess its price: $999 or $1499? :D
08-06-2009, 08:19 AM
Jamesrt2004

1499
08-06-2009, 08:38 AM
iTravis

$1366
08-06-2009, 08:50 AM
saaya

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

hows that news?
it shows up as replacing the 975 in intel roadmaps for a while... they were posted here in the news section too..
and since it will replace the 975, it wouldnt make sense if it would cost more than 999$ imo...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231115
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/09-08-03/1a.jpg
08-06-2009, 08:54 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholvaco

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

Which is quite uninteresting, cause everyone wants to see the Xeon roadmap, i bet theres more then one SKU based on gulftown. :yepp:
08-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Vozer

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Originally Posted by iTravis

$1366

:ROTF: :up:
08-06-2009, 11:28 AM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by iTravis

$1366

$1337 :p: :D
08-06-2009, 11:56 AM
ajaidev

If this is at $1350-$1500 its Ultra extrema price.... $999-$1250 is much better and would be a ok buy!!!

AMD can counter this by selling those 45nm hex's cheap when i say cheap i mean starting from $500-$600 or so... For the people who say this is not possible the 2.2Ghz hex Istanbul cost's around $449 on newegg.

EDIT:- Although the L3 does seems to be double to than the Hex Istanbul but the total cache "l1+l2+l3" difference is really 4MB.
08-06-2009, 12:08 PM
STRMX

+1 for 1337$
08-06-2009, 06:43 PM
Chumbucket843

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Originally Posted by STRMX

+1 for 1337$

+1 for $13.37
08-07-2009, 04:28 AM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chumbucket843

+1 for $13.37

:eek:

Sweet! @ that^^ price I'll take 10 ...! ;)
09-07-2009, 11:36 PM
***Deimos***

"Core 2" changed quite a bit with shrink from 65nm to 45nm.
new instructions, more cache, faster divide etc...

Gulftown is just 32nm Nehalem with 6 cores and 12MB L3 (sounds very server'ish).
Wondering what surprise minor improvements Gulftown has.

Very excited to see how Intel manages ~130W TDP with 6 cores (thats only ~20W per core!!)
09-08-2009, 12:11 AM
gOJDO

Gulftown to Bloomfield is what Wolfdale was to Conroe. It has as much micro-architectural updates compared to it's 45nm brother as Wolfdale had compared to Conroe.

As for the TDP per core, your math is plain wrong. i7 has other parts of the logic which are dissipating heat, other than the cores. It is the L3, IMCs, NB, etc.
09-08-2009, 12:57 AM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by Xoulz

:eek:

Sweet! @ that^^ price I'll take 10 ...! ;)

i'll buy the other few million left in stock :rofl::D
09-14-2009, 04:56 AM
geo

Intel begins production of 32nm Westmere processors

Quote:

Were you so impressed by the reviews of Intel's latest Lynfield Core i7 chips that you ran out and paid the early-adopter premium to buy one? Your period of superiority hasn't lasted long, dear reader, with the company announcing initial production of 32nm processors has begun. It's taken many years (and a $7 billion manufacturing investment) to get these Westmere chips onto silicon, with the Clarkdale (desktop) and Arrandale (notebook) lines expected to start showing up in over-sized cardboard boxes before the end of the year. What's next for 45nm chips, like those new Lynnfields? A slow fade to obsolescence, as they're likely to be the last of the breed -- but they at least can take pride in knowing they were the king of their class; a class that resulted in a whopping 200 million sales. Check out the video after the break for a some silicon and cleanroom action.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/i...sors/#comments
09-14-2009, 10:00 AM
Katanai

Quote:

Originally Posted by geo

Intel begins production of 32nm Westmere processors

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/i...sors/#comments

A link to the video, for the lazy people. :)

Video
04-25-2010, 02:23 AM
MONITERVN

Infor really ?and when it can sell ?
04-25-2010, 02:28 AM
WhiteFireDragon

lol what a necro post. moniternvn, look at the date of the thread. it's also already available, i7-980X retails for about $1000 USD
04-25-2010, 12:38 PM
metalop1g

Is it an absolute necessity for all of you to call HOLY TREAD NECRO and whatnots EVERY time somebody revives a thread? It's not funny, it's like each time somebody posts in an old thread, you jump on it to be the first one to say it. Still, I understand this is the news thread and we need to stay on topic.

I mean, it's so rude, no need to always mention it..

Being a little more on topic, you answered about gulftown availability but not about westmere.. I can't really answer better but I wanted to let you know :)
04-25-2010, 01:26 PM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by metalop1g

Is it an absolute necessity for all of you to call HOLY TREAD NECRO and whatnots EVERY time somebody revives a thread? It's not funny, it's like each time somebody posts in an old thread, you jump on it to be the first one to say it. Still, I understand this is the news thread and we need to stay on topic.

I mean, it's so rude, no need to always mention it..

Being a little more on topic, you answered about gulftown availability but not about westmere.. I can't really answer better but I wanted to let you know :)

No bro... MANY people find it highly offensive to necro threads. Doing so is wrong.. plain & simple.

The offender(s) understands now, & probably will never do it again. But please don't dismiss it as funny! Why call out the educator and not the infractor..?
04-25-2010, 02:03 PM
metalop1g

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xoulz

No bro... MANY people find it highly offensive to necro threads. Doing so is wrong.. plain & simple.

The offender(s) understands now, & probably will never do it again. But please don't dismiss it as funny! Why call out the educator and not the infractor..?

Maybe we need a rule or something? It's not that I agree with the practice, it's tolerated but kind of annoying when it gets out of hand.
04-25-2010, 02:03 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalop1g

Is it an absolute necessity for all of you to call HOLY TREAD NECRO and whatnots EVERY time somebody revives a thread? It's not funny, it's like each time somebody posts in an old thread, you jump on it to be the first one to say it. Still, I understand this is the news thread and we need to stay on topic.

I mean, it's so rude, no need to always mention it..

Being a little more on topic, you answered about gulftown availability but not about westmere.. I can't really answer better but I wanted to let you know :)

yes, actually, if you look at the content of the person who necro'd the thread.

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