My ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer is here...

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Originally Posted by burningrave101

Well I was just curious if your results were about the same as crashmax's for max BCLK with you having a 975 XE and him testing with a Xeon. You could lower your CPU multi to like 19x in order to find the max BCLK and avoid going to higher CPU speeds.

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Yeah i know , tried it @ 215,posted, but didn't boot to windows.

This is a new platform for me ,still getting to know it.Ill mess around with it and see what i come up with. Meanwhile, any suggestions are welcome:)

Can someone confirm if this board has B3 chipset revision?

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Originally Posted by nge769

Either your mentally challenged,or you didn't bother reading, or your a troll.
Either way, run along now and go play..

PLEASE, IF ANYONE INSINUATES THAT I'M LYING, DO NOT POST ON THIS
THREAD!!!!!!!

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...? lol what?

I don't think I took it to that level. I merely asked if your plate was getting a good transfer, considering his board is evidently burning up. What would I get out of trolling someone using a board I'm considering buying? :shrug:

Your first post was 3 weeks ago, and if I follow a thread over that timespan if you mentioned it (that your plate is most certainly getting good transfer), it's possible not to remember. :up:

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Originally Posted by Ruroni

...? lol what?

I don't think I took it to that level. I merely asked if your plate was getting a good transfer, considering his board is evidently burning up. What would I get out of trolling someone using a board I'm considering buying? :shrug:

Your first post was 3 weeks ago, and if I follow a thread over that timespan if you mentioned it (that your plate is most certainly getting good transfer), it's possible not to remember. :up:

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hes running 81f room temps im running 71f:rolleyes:

I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

Someone was asking me what about turbo throttling with this board.

This is my experience during Prime and Linx sessions. As soon the CPU reaches 81C it drops to a multi of 20. If you stop prime or Linx the multi goes back to 21.
So this Mobo does turbo throttling and no there is no BIOS Option yet to disable this. On RIIE it was possible to disable the turbo throttling.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

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Thanks, that confirms it my mobo sensor reads 36c and my probe reads 36.5
as I'm writing this.Maybe i need to take a video:ROTF:

crashmax, there are 3 things that control Turbo throttling. Core voltage, power/current going through the core and temperature. Any one of these 3 items can trigger Turbo throttling where your +1 Turbo will start to cycle on and off rapidly. The harder you push it, your multiplier will then drop down to 20.0 and sit there. Good-bye nice overclock. As soon as the load or temperature drops, your multiplier will return to 21.0.

You need to contact Asus to come out with a fix for this if it is important to you. So far they have a special bios version available for the P6T Deluxe v1 and might do a few more if there's a demand for it.

The Asus rep on XS is Juan Jose (JJ) and has made the v1 guys very happy.
illuminatiASUS

Here are some turbo testing tools to check your own board when running at full load.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

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Originally Posted by unclewebb

crashmax, there are 3 things that control Turbo throttling. Core voltage, power/current going through the core and temperature. Any one of these 3 items can trigger Turbo throttling where your +1 Turbo will start to cycle on and off rapidly. The harder you push it, your multiplier will then drop down to 20.0 and sit there. Good-bye nice overclock. As soon as the load or temperature drops, your multiplier will return to 21.0.

You need to contact Asus to come out with a fix for this if it is important to you. So far they have a special bios version available for the P6T Deluxe v1 and might do a few more if there's a demand for it.

The Asus rep on XS is Juan Jose (JJ) and has made the v1 guys very happy.
illuminatiASUS

Here are some turbo testing tools to check your own board when running at full load.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

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Thank you very much for this useful info! I will use them to hopefully get a BIOS with fix this issue.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

Patience! :D This is a brand new mobo with initial BIOS.

After one day I can say, that this P6T7 is rock solid and that the CPU needs 0.08 VCore less as on my RIIE and that is very very good!

Furthermore, the system boots much faster than with RIIE, there is no cold boot issue (in my case) and the overall performance feels better (smooth, no lag) while loading programs and playing games.

This evening I will run Vantage to compare the P6T7 with my RIIE.

The only two things that concerns me are max BCLK and the heat (shows 57C but feels much hotter???, but hey, it is stable!!) of the NF200. In case of the max BCLK I’m sure that new BIOS releases will fix this!

For all my Tests I'm using exactly (switchting from one mobo to the other) the same CPU and Memory as on my RIIE!

Best wishes!

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1. There is no cold boot issue with the RIIE. You just didn't update your BIOS. Was fixed as of 1306. BIOS is currently past that.

2. There isn't any lag or lack of "smoothness" with programs or games between the two. That's an asinine statement. Either your board was defective or you're pulling observations out of your ass. I've seen them both in action running identical CPU's and high end RAM. Both were also using Intel SSDs. Also, you'll likely get a larger FPS hit on the P6T7 due to the two NF200's.

I'm sorry but I debated between the RIIE and the P6T7 because a good friend of mine purchased it. I ended up going with the RIIE with the option of sending it back for a P6T7. I may still send it back for the P6T7, but only because of the extra PCIe slots. We have identical setups with 975's, 2000Mhz C8 RAM and Intel SSDs. What you wrote reads like an ASUS press release.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

I think nobody is saying that anybody is laing...

As nge769 mentioned, there is no sensor for the x58 chip itself. Everest only reads the Motherboard Temp witch is in my case equal to the external sensor. Both sensors reads between 45 and 57C, idle to load.

Perhaps my skin is thinner then the one of nge769. :D

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No, Everest is likely just misreading the sensor. There's no way your motherboard temp is 57C. Motherboard temps don't vary that much between idle and load and never that high. Unless you live in the desert. That is likely the average of the chipset temp between the two NF200's and the Northbridge.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

Someone was asking me what about turbo throttling with this board.

This is my experience during Prime and Linx sessions. As soon the CPU reaches 81C it drops to a multi of 20. If you stop prime or Linx the multi goes back to 21.

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That's standard throttling on most any board that supports it.


Yes, you're excited to have your new motherboard, we get it. But don't write your observations like an ASUS press release. It helps no one.

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Originally Posted by kgk

1. There is no cold boot issue with the RIIE. You just didn't update your BIOS. Was fixed as of 1306. BIOS is currently past that.

2. There isn't any lag or lack of "smoothness" with programs or games between the two. That's an asinine statement. Either your board was defective or you're pulling observations out of your ass. I've seen them both in action running identical CPU's and high end RAM. Both were also using Intel SSDs. Also, you'll likely get a larger FPS hit on the P6T7 due to the two NF200's.

I'm sorry but I debated between the RIIE and the P6T7 because a good friend of mine purchased it. I ended up going with the RIIE with the option of sending it back for a P6T7. I may still send it back for the P6T7, but only because of the extra PCIe slots. We have identical setups with 975's, 2000Mhz C8 RAM and Intel SSDs. What you wrote reads like an ASUS press release.



No, Everest is likely just misreading the sensor. There's no way your motherboard temp is 57C. Motherboard temps don't vary that much between idle and load and never that high. Unless you live in the desert. That is likely the average of the chipset temp between the two NF200's and the Northbridge.



That's standard throttling on most any board that supports it.


Yes, you're excited to have your new motherboard, we get it. But don't write your observations like an ASUS press release. It helps no one.

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I don't know whats the problem here? Perhaps it is my English as this is not my mother-tong.

1. I don't work for ASUS or any reseller.
2. I never said that there was a cold boot issue with my RIIE. I used BIOS 1406
3. I wrote that the new Mobo feels smoother while working and gaming and not that RIIE was a crappy Board. The RIIE was one of the best Mobos I ever had and I had about 40 different Boards!
4. The OS is booting much faster, that's a fact! In my case
5. I don't now where the on board sensor is on this mobo, but asus wrote to nge769 that there is no sensor for the x58 Chip or I simply misunderstood this.

And what relay pisses me of is, that this should be a Forum to share some impressions of new released Hardware but some people try to offend you if you write your personal view :down:

If you have an other view then tell us, but please don't do that in this way.

Oh boy ,never thought this thread would get like this.Lets stop with the bickering, misunderstandings and the BS .Were here to express our opinions, maybe learn a Little something, and to have some fun .

People posting from around the world aren't gonna know the English language
as well as there native language,and seems to create some confusion here i see.

I don't see where crash said the RIIE had a cold boot issue,personally i never experienced it.

The bios lists board temps, that should give you a good idea,unless its reading wrong. Thats what a probe is for,no?

The temps in crashes room, in a way, is like living in the desert, (28c , 81+F) in my book thats pretty warm and will affect your temps big time.

Peace

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Originally Posted by crashmax

I don't know whats the problem here? Perhaps it is my English as this is not my mother-tong.

1. I don't work for ASUS or any reseller.
2. I never said that there was a cold boot issue with my RIIE. I used BIOS 1406
3. I wrote that the new Mobo feels smoother while working and gaming and not that RIIE was a crappy Board. The RIIE was one of the best Mobos I ever had and I had about 40 different Boards!
4. The OS is booting much faster, that's a fact! In my case
5. I don't now where the on board sensor is on this mobo, but asus wrote to nge769 that there is no sensor for the x58 Chip or I simply misunderstood this.

And what relay pisses me of is, that this should be a Forum to share some impressions of new released Hardware but some people try to offend you if you write your personal view :down:

If you have an other view then tell us, but please don't do that in this way.

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If you misconstrued it that badly just write in German. I'm perfectly fluent in that as well.

I never said you work for ASUS. Stop misdirecting.

You implied there was a cold boot issue in your comparison, perhaps unintentionally due to the language barrier.

How can a board "feel smoother" while working and gaming? You either had bad manual BIOS settings for an overclock with undervolt or a defective board. I've used them both with identical hardware and they function the same. Aside from a minimal Vantage difference there is no discernible difference to someone using a program. Also, I never claimed you said the RIIE was a crappy board.

The OS booting faster could simply be due to a shorter BIOS screen. The P6T7 doesn't have the ROG Graphic, although you can turn that off on the RIIE.

My response had nothing to do with criticizing the board and everything to do with criticizing the fanboyism. The P6T7 is a fantastic board, but there's no need to invent things in an attempt to elevate it. :rolleyes: It's already at the top of the pecking order, so the arbitrary "figures" are really pointless.

My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

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Originally Posted by kgk

The OS booting faster could simply be due to a shorter BIOS screen. The P6T7 doesn't have the ROG Graphic, although you can turn that off on the RIIE.

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You say you've used them both with identical hardware. Did you time the process it took for each to finish their boot sequence and load the OS? The P6T7 is a workstation class board which may have a better optimized BIOS that recognizes and initializes the hardware in a faster sequence than the R2E thus shaving off several seconds in boot time. X58 boards don't all have the exact same boot times regardless of their POST screen graphics because every boards BIOS is going to be a little different.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

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Well said.:up:

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Originally Posted by Blacky

Can someone confirm if this board has B3 chipset revision?

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I know, nge769 wrote this already.

Here is a screen-shot of what sandra is telling us about the chipset stepping.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/chipset_info1mmc.png

Everest still shows the chipset as B2 stepping.

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Originally Posted by burningrave101

You say you've used them both with identical hardware. Did you time the process it took for each to finish their boot sequence and load the OS? The P6T7 is a workstation class board which may have a better optimized BIOS that recognizes and initializes the hardware in a faster sequence than the R2E thus shaving off several seconds in boot time. X58 boards don't all have the exact same boot times regardless of their POST screen graphics because every boards BIOS is going to be a little different.

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It's not really a "workstation" board. It can run 7 GPUs for CUDA, but it's still an X58 single socket board. I'd consider a "workstation" board a dual socket 1366.

The hardware detection is almost identical in time between the two. The only difference between my setup and my co-worker/friend is he has an Nvidia GPU setup, while I have an ATI. Disable the ROG flashy crap and SAS drive search on the RIIE and it's practically identical in bootup to windows start. I'm really temped to switch over to the P6T7 for the added PCIe availability since I run a lot of devices. But not because of any inherent performance advantage (aside from the ability to run more GPUs).

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Originally Posted by crashmax

I know, nge769 wrote this already.

Here is a screen-shot of what sandra is telling us about the chipset stepping.

http://www.abload.de/thumb/chipset_info1mmc.png

Everest still shows the chipset as B2 stepping.

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Sandra is probably right. Everest "says" it supports the P6T7 now but I think we all know how reliable that program has been over the yeras :rolleyes:

Only way to know for absolutely sure is word from the manufacturer or prying off the heatsink.

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Originally Posted by crashmax

My English is not very good, but most people understand what I'm writing.
That's the Problem of written words. One interprets a sentence this way, another the complete other way. Should be more specific from now on to avoid misunderstandings.

And hey, this is my hobby and I'm an IT-Engineer since 15 Years now but still excited if I can test new Hardware at Home. Perhaps too excited ;)

So, simply let us enjoy our passion! :up:

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Ah, simply a language misunderstanding then. No problem. :up:

Also, you're not very far from me. I'm in Konstanz.

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Originally Posted by kgk

Ah, simply a language misunderstanding then. No problem. :up:

Also, you're not very far from me. I'm in Konstanz.

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We are almost neighbors. And the funny thing is we have both the same mother-tong (for those how don't know that) :D

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Originally Posted by kgk

It's not really a "workstation" board. It can run 7 GPUs for CUDA, but it's still an X58 single socket board. I'd consider a "workstation" board a dual socket 1366.

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Well despite what you consider it to be it's still a workstation developed board that's been certified for supporting NVIDIA's Tesla GPUs and so that's why it's marketed with the name "Workstation" in it's title. Number of sockets doesn't classify whether or not a board is a workstation board.

hey nge769 can you post your bios settings. i am willing to build a system exactly like you.so i might need you to post your bios setup . all of you guys are doing great. and everyone here is trying to get to the best result and the most correct conclusion...... so well done everyone.

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Originally Posted by AmrElshaer

hey nge769 can you post your bios settings. i am willing to build a system exactly like you.so i might need you to post your bios setup . all of you guys are doing great. and everyone here is trying to get to the best result and the most correct conclusion...... so well done everyone.

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Hi AmrElshaer,look at my first page,SS, Also you might have to adjust vcore,QPI, not all chips are the same.When i used Crash's settings it wouldn't even boot to windows,i needed more voltage.

Can somebody say with certainty, if the Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer has the B3-Chipset?

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Originally Posted by Drow

Can somebody say with certainty, if the Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer has the B3-Chipset?

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yes it do

Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?

Hopefully Asus will come out with a fix for the thermal throttling on Turbo mode when reaching 80C. So far I'm Priming 4.1Ghz with my W3520 and a couple of the cores keep hitting 79-80C causing the multiplier to start to drop below 21x. I need to reseat my TRUE though because I don't think I applied the thermal paste that great the first time with the way I had to keep twisting the TRUE around to get it screwed down. I may try to lap it as well which would probably knock off another 5C or so on temps.

Also let me just say that the NB/SB/NF200 plate does get pretty hot to the touch if you don't have direct airflow on it. I tested mine without any direct airflow on it while overclocked and under load and it was too hot to keep your finger on it for more than a few seconds. I put a 120mm fan on it though and that seemed to take care of it.

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Originally Posted by RNeon

yes it do

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latest everest shows b2 step and latest cpuz too

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Originally Posted by burningrave101

Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?

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No , i have the original (210),I'm still waiting for bios update.:)

I think firewire has a beta bios , but not allowed to share it.

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Originally Posted by burningrave101

Where's the link to download the latest BIOS for this board? I didn't find anything up on the Asus FTP and I see you have an updated one nge.

And what's the highest Prime stable CPU clock you've gotten with your W3540 Crashmax?

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With my W3540, witch I have sold, 210BCLK was the max on P6T7 (220BCLK max on RIIE).

Now I'm going to holiday for the next two weeks. Hope there will be a new bios after I'm back. :rolleyes:

read you soon :yepp:

I got this board for testing and the first thing that i find is.... This board really BURNS!! :eek:

The block that covers the two NF200 and NB chip, i hardly can touch it after i play for a few minutes a 3D game with my 285GTX.

This is not a board for any regular case. :shakes:

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Originally Posted by JohnMike

I got this board for testing and the first thing that i find is.... This board really BURNS!! :eek:

The block that covers the two NF200 and NB chip, i hardly can touch it after i play for a few minutes a 3D game with my 285GTX.

This is not a board for any regular case. :shakes:

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That's what I figured but the OP kept insisting that heat isn't an issue! I have the P6T6 and it gets hot with one NF200...maybe if they designed it to have seperate sinks, that would help...one sink covering all that area is bound to get hot...I hope people water-cool it and then post back what it can do because aside from the heat it still looks like a good board.

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Originally Posted by ACE76

That's what I figured but the OP kept insisting that heat isn't an issue! I have the P6T6 and it gets hot with one NF200...maybe if they designed it to have seperate sinks, that would help...one sink covering all that area is bound to get hot...I hope people water-cool it and then post back what it can do because aside from the heat it still looks like a good board.

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It's a great board, no dout. But the heat generated is very high on the sink. I have the board on my desk, maybe on a case with good air flow the heat could be better dissipate, but anyway these chips (2x NF200) and the board it self are very, VERY hot. I'm going to keep my eVGA X58.

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Originally Posted by JohnMike

It's a great board, no dout. But the heat generated is very high on the sink. I have the board on my desk, maybe on a case with good air flow the heat could be better dissipate, but anyway these chips (2x NF200) and the board it self are very, VERY hot. I'm going to keep my eVGA X58.

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Careful, you may get shouted down like I did for suggesting that the heatsink isn't sufficient........

Did you get temp readings?

has anyone tried crossfire or 3 way cf on this board yet?

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Originally Posted by bill_d

has anyone tried crossfire or 3 way cf on this board yet?

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That Trubitar clown on Youtube has benchmarks of it running tri-sli and a fourth in physx without issue. So I'd assume 3 way cf should work just fine.

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Originally Posted by kgk

Careful, you may get shouted down like I did for suggesting that the heatsink isn't sufficient........

Did you get temp readings?

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No i didn't, just a simple touch is enough to sense and fill the very hot sinks on this board, i just can hold my fingers on the chips sink for a very few seconds after playing 3D game then i may burn my skin. Even with the SO on idle the temps are very high.

I have tried hundreds of boards in the past and i don't need to read the temps to know that this board is one of most hotters boards...Ever!

The board is very good, really fast and good quality components. The bios is very limited regarding OC Ram because it's Xeon CPU limited. Need new bios.

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Originally Posted by JohnMike

No i didn't, just a simple touch is enough to sense and fill the very hot sinks on this board, i just can hold my fingers on the chips sink for a very few seconds after playing 3D game then i may burn my skin. Even with the SO on idle the temps are very high.

I have tried hundreds of boards in the past and i don't need to read the temps to know that this board is one of most hotters boards...Ever!

The board is very good, really fast and good quality components. The bios is very limited regarding OC Ram because it's Xeon CPU limited. Need new bios.

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Yea but an X58 chipset is generally around 50C anyway on air, with the heatsink being too hot to touch under load. I Have a TJ 07 with two 120's filling up the front bays so we'll see how well it mitigates the temps when I get it next week. The heatsink obviously needs air moving across the fins to dissipate the heat more effectively so having yours sitting in the open probably didn't help.

Try sticking a single 120mm fan near the fins and see how the temps look after that. Also, replace the stock thermal grease with AS5 or something similar. That'll drop your temps another few degrees C. The stock thermal grease that ASUS uses on their chipset coolers is crap.

I'm going to swap out the thermal grease on mine with AS5 and have decent airflow so it shouldn't give any problems. But as soon as a water block is released for it I'm putting that sucker on water.

Wow, sorry to hear your boards heat up like that,mine is barley warm to the touch and never goes over 38c idle,and 41c load on probe,with 22c room temp.

I remember with out the memory fan, the heatsink fins would be hot. (the one's next to the memory) Also those fins+pipe are the closest link to the sink,I remember that those fins were hotter than the rest of the fins next to CPU.

I wished some one lived in NY so they can come over and see my rig and temps.( If any1 lives near me, their welcomed to stop by):)

BTW.. If my board over heated , I would of sold it the next day.

So does this board resume from S3 okay?

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Originally Posted by nge769

Wow, sorry to hear your boards heat up like that,mine is barley warm to the touch and never goes over 38c idle,and 41c load on probe,with 22c room temp.

I remember with out the memory fan, the heatsink fins would be hot. (the one's next to the memory) Also those fins+pipe are the closest link to the sink,I remember that those fins were hotter than the rest of the fins next to CPU.

I wished some one lived in NY so they can come over and see my rig and temps.( If any1 lives near me, their welcomed to stop by):)

BTW.. If my board over heated , I would of sold it the next day.

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Hey people, new boy here. I totally agree with this guy. My P6T7 heatsink is barely warm to the touch too. I too have the corsair fans over the memory which does a good job of cooling the heat pipes and fins next to it, and I have 40mm fans on the other fins, the board is never in danger of overheating from what I'm experiencing:)

My 760 evga classified is hotter.

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Originally Posted by lawtq

Hey people, new boy here. I totally agree with this guy. My P6T7 heatsink is barely warm to the touch too. I too have the corsair fans over the memory which does a good job of cooling the heat pipes and fins next to it, and I have 40mm fans on the other fins, the board is never in danger of overheating from what I'm experiencing:)

My 760 evga classified is hotter.

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Hello lawtq, and welcome ,I'm glad your experiencing good temp results too with this mobo.This is the most stable mobo for this platform Ive ever owned.

The only regret i have is i should of waited and bought 2 sas drives instead
of 2 raptors, but who knew this mobo would come out,but its ok cause my 2 veloci raptors in raid0 are pretty fast too.:)

Thanks man!

Its a lovely mobo, just neeeeeeeeeeeed a bios update, cant take the turbo multiplier throttling any more, lol. And one of my usb ports aren't working, cant bare to rma just for that, hoping a bios update somehow fixes it (hey, let a man dream) Looks like rma it might be, for the price EVERYTHING should be working. Aint touched my classified since getting this mobo.

Am hunting for the 0303 beta I think someone on here has, wont stop till I find it somewhere.

But right now I'm on 4.5 GHZ with HT stable (I think so far, no crashes after 2 days) with a vcore of 1.45, and vtt/QPI of 1.3625. Idling around 36-37c for cpu and max load temps with linx at 77c, not bad for 4.5ghz with hyperthreading!

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Originally Posted by lawtq

Thanks man!

Its a lovely mobo, just neeeeeeeeeeeed a bios update, cant take the turbo multiplier throttling any more, lol. And one of my usb ports aren't working, cant bare to rma just for that, hoping a bios update somehow fixes it (hey, let a man dream) Looks like rma it might be, for the price EVERYTHING should be working. Aint touched my classified since getting this mobo.

Am hunting for the 0303 beta I think someone on here has, wont stop till I find it somewhere.

But right now I'm on 4.5 GHZ with HT stable (I think so far, no crashes after 2 days) with a vcore of 1.45, and vtt/QPI of 1.3625. Idling around 36-37c for cpu and max load temps with linx at 77c, not bad for 4.5ghz with hyperthreading!

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Not bad at all. Pretty high vcore though :confused: What's your bclck x multi combo? Or are you on an i7 920? I'm assuming that's on water too, right?

Also, the USB problem is unlikely to be fixed with BIOS, I'd RMA it now. By the time you get it back, the new BIOS might be available.

Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

Also, for those that have mentioned Turbo throttling, is it not possible to disable it in the BIOS? What about Speedstep? Because I hate those two and always turn them off on OC's.

EDIT: Nevermind, saw in the BIOS screenshots that the Speedstep option is available. But yea that Turbo throttling option isn't there. Argh.

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Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

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I know that a board in workbench gets warmed higher then in a case with airflow. But i had Asus P6T V2 and Gigabyte X58 Extreme on the same position and they were not even close to this temps that i'm experience. The others boards were cool when on workbench with good temps, on idle the temps look like the boards were power down.

Anyaway, i believe this board will work better in a case with good airflow. People must be aware and look close for temps.

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Not bad at all. Pretty high vcore though :confused: What's your bclck x multi combo? Or are you on an i7 920? I'm assuming that's on water too, right?

Also, the USB problem is unlikely to be fixed with BIOS, I'd RMA it now. By the time you get it back, the new BIOS might be available.

Anyway. For all doubting nge's temps, I have this mobo coming tomorrow or tuesday, and I'm an uncompromising ass when it comes to my pc components. I'm leaning towards thinking that people with high chipset temps have them on a workbench and not in a case where you get good airflow across the fins. Any board sitting idle in the room with no airflow will get hot.

I'm going to throw a chipset block on this as soon as it's available though, just for the hell of it.

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Yep, its a 920 D0 with a 215 bclock. 1.4325v is doable but it freezes sometimes, a little more tweaking needed, memory is 6gb corsair at 1700+mhz at it rated 1.64v. It just my chip it needs a big jump in vcore to do 4.5ghz with HT, cause I'm doing 1.36v at 4,4ghz wiht HT

The board is on its first bios which impresses me, turbo thrittling better be sorted out with ther next bios. I'll probably rma due to the single usb port not working, it doesnt recongize some devices but recognizes that they've been pluged in at aleast, while nothing happens at all when some other devices are plugged in.

I just feel the board is VERY solid, can I live without that single usb port (yes) but it'll niggle me till I just cant sleep no more! I'm just a bit reluctant to rma cause the board they replace it with could be worse, and not as stable.

The guy with the beta bios 0303 I think it was, he give any feedback as to how the bios is??

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Yep, its a 920 D0 with a 215 bclock. 1.4325v is doable but it freezes sometimes, a little more tweaking needed, memory is 6gb corsair at 1700+mhz at it rated 1.64v. It just my chip it needs a big jump in vcore to do 4.5ghz with HT, cause I'm doing 1.36v at 4,4ghz wiht HT

The board is on its first bios which impresses me, turbo thrittling better be sorted out with ther next bios. I'll probably rma due to the single usb port not working, it doesnt recongize some devices but recognizes that they've been pluged in at aleast, while nothing happens at all when some other devices are plugged in.

I just feel the board is VERY solid, can I live without that single usb port (yes) but it'll niggle me till I just cant sleep no more! I'm just a bit reluctant to rma cause the board they replace it with could be worse, and not as stable.

The guy with the beta bios 0303 I think it was, he give any feedback as to how the bios is??

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No he didn't.

I would definitely send it back ,and you would probably get a new one, cause it just came out, and not that many refurbs/returns in circulation yet;).

About the bios, i saw a review on the net Where asus sent them the 0410 bios to use for the review , so that makes me think there working on it.

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I would definitely send it back ,and you would probably get a new one, cause it just came out, and not that many refurbs/returns in circulation yet;).
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What he said. Probability of getting a refurb with the P6T7 is probably very slim. Compared to say, an RIIE or Classified, where there are a lot of refurbs floating around now.


Also, if they already shipped a review sample with a 400 something BIOS, then I'm surprised the one that the guy earlier in this thread had(303, or something) hasn't been released yet. Maybe it has some major bug or they just decided to skip over it with the 400 version.

sound's like this is a very good board cant wait to get mine it is in order richt now

Does anyone get the occasional freeze in bios? Requiring a hard reset to function again? I get this at high overclocks, 4.5ghz with HT, have never run the board on stock cklocks before though.

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Does anyone get the occasional freeze in bios? Requiring a hard reset to function again? I get this at high overclocks, 4.5ghz with HT, have never run the board on stock cklocks before though.

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Yeah, happened to me playing with high OC ,never happens on stock or low OC though, I'm not sure why.

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Yeah, happened to me playing with high OC ,never happens on stock or low OC though, I'm not sure why.

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I see, thanks 4 the reply.

Hurry with the bios update already, Asus.

So my P6T7 came today and it has the 303 Bios installed. Even though the one on the ASUS site is listed as 210 haha.

then your board is not original
asus germany said 0303 is internal bios for testing NOT final
then someone got your board and flashed 0303 and sended it back
my opinion

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then your board is not original
asus germany said 0303 is internal bios for testing NOT final
then someone got your board and flashed 0303 and sended it back
my opinion

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Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

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Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

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Congrats!! This 303 bios, does it have the cpu turbo throttling disable option?

Give us your thoughts and OC experience later. Where'd you buy the board from?

I'm sending mine back to scan, they are picking it up, due to the one usb port not working, hope the replacement is with 303 bios.

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Congrats!! This 303 bios, does it have the cpu turbo throttling disable option?

Give us your thoughts and OC experience later. Where'd you buy the board from?

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Bought it from PC-king.de here in Germany.

I disabled Intel Turbo and Speedstep, which are listed as options. Think I forgot to disable C-State though since it's still giving me fluctuated readings in Core Temp.

The TDP is amusing in Core Temp though, jumps between 400 and 4000 Watts :rofl:

Guess Core Temp doesn't support this board yet. Everest works though.

In the middle of downloading Windows 7 7600 build that just came out so gonna have to wait an hour for me to post oc's and temps. But believe it or not the stock cooling solution doesn't seem to be that bad. I was expecting far worse.

I've also noticed that this board does take slightly less vcore to boot 4.0Ghz HT on stable compared to the RIIE.

Ah, so no cpu turbo throttling option yet

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Ah, so no cpu turbo throttling option yet

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Will let you know for sure in approx 30 minutes. Installing latest Windows 7, drivers, and programs at the moment.

Bios 0303 ??
Have anyone an Download, Link please ?? ;)

Greetz Mike

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Will let you know for sure in approx 30 minutes. Installing latest Windows 7, drivers, and programs at the moment.

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Great, thanks!

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Bios 0303 ??
Have anyone an Download, Link please ?? ;)

Greetz Mike

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we arent by wish you what :rofl:

Ok I can boot just fine with 133x 30 (~4Ghz) with HT on no problems. BIOS sees it as 4.0Ghz.

But in Windows, CoreTemp still gives me 133x12 to 133x26 back and forth. And it's the latest Core Temp beta too.

Everest same thing. Weird. Even when I run Prime 95 to stress it, thinking it'll crank up to the OC, it still displays 133x26. F'ed up.

Although CPU-Z sees it just fine as 4Ghz, and without fluctuations.......

It's probably the programs just not having caught up to the board yet since there aren't a lot in the wild.

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Ok I can boot just fine with 133x 30 (~4Ghz) with HT on no problems. BIOS sees it as 4.0Ghz.

But in Windows, CoreTemp still gives me 133x12 to 133x26 back and forth. And it's the latest Core Temp beta too.

Everest same thing. Weird. Even when I run Prime 95 to stress it, thinking it'll crank up to the OC, it still displays 133x26. F'ed up.

Although CPU-Z sees it just fine as 4Ghz, and without fluctuations.......

It's probably the programs just not having caught up to the board yet since there aren't a lot in the wild.

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Same here, fluctuations in core temp but not in cpuz.

One thing with the WS boards ,ASUS takes their sweet ass time with bios updates, from what Ive heard.

ASUS give me that 0410 bios already.

my p6t7 ws came today , i still got the 210 bios
but it works just fine , i got a i7 920 D0 with it (stock cooler) not to happy about the temps (43 at idle)

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my p6t7 ws came today , i still got the 210 bios
but it works just fine , i got a i7 920 D0 with it (stock cooler) not to happy about the temps (43 at idle)

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The temps don't have anything to do with the board.

That's within normal for idle. i7's run hot.

Also, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised with the chipset temps. Nothing crazy hot. Doesn't seem to get any hotter than my RIIE with stock cooling. I have good airflow in my case though, so I could see how without air flow on the fins that the board could get hot.

my chipset temp is 42

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my chipset temp is 42

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Ditto.

everything is working fine but when i oc my pocessor up to 3.0 ghz and i stress it i get tempt up to 70 i have got my multiplier at 20 and the core speed at 150 ,the voltage is at stock

am i doing something wrong because 70 is not good at all for an mild oc

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everything is working fine but when i oc my pocessor up to 3.0 ghz and i stress it i get tempt up to 70 i have got my multiplier at 20 and the core speed at 150 ,the voltage is at stock

am i doing something wrong because 70 is not good at all for an mild oc

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Make sure your heatsink is seated properly, take it off and check the paste for dry spots.

Oh , i noticed your using a stock cooler from your previous post, that's your problem lol,get a better cooler if overclocking.

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Everything was factory sealed, didn't look like it'd been touched. I highly doubt it. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be unheard of for a board to slip out with an unreleased BIOS. It's happened numerous times before.

Also, how can someone have flashed it to 303, and then sent it back since no one has been able to find the 303 anywhere on the web.......


Either way....who cares. I can flash it down to 210 or up to the next release any time I want.

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Boards get sent with new bios just before they update the asus site ,happened to me with the p6t deluxe v2.

Also, check your serial number on your box , tell me what your first 2 numbers are (first number is the year, second number is the month it was built)That should give you a good idea ;)..let me know.

BTW, mine was built on may of 09

Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view...d=1262879&da=y

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Make sure your heatsink is seated properly, take it off and check the paste for dry spots.

Oh , i noticed your using a stock cooler from your previous post, that's your problem lol,get a better cooler if overclocking.

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tank you for the tips i am going to buy a scyte mugen very soon i hope :)

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Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view...d=1262879&da=y

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've just sent my p6t7 back due to the dud usb port, then someone posts the bios link!! Lol!!

Thanks for the link, anyone tried it yet?

Currently using my classified and its struggling to stay stable at 4.4ghz with HT, the p6t7 found it alot easier and with every voltage on auto except cpu and ram voltages.

***Why did MJ have to die!!?? :(

Concerning temps I'm at 34-37c at idle even with a 4.5ghz HT overclock!! Load max is 77c (With Linx stress test, the most brutal cpu stresser!) at the same overclock, its thanks to the amazing heatkiller water block and a tripple radiator

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've just sent my p6t7 back due to the dud usb port, then someone posts the bios link!! Lol!!

Thanks for the link, anyone tried it yet?

Currently using my classified and its struggling to stay stable at 4.4ghz with HT, the p6t7 found it alot easier and with every voltage on auto except cpu and ram voltages.

Concerning temps I'm at 34-37c at idle even with a 4.5ghz HT overclock!! Load max is 77c (With Linx stress test, the most brutal cpu stresser!) at the same overclock, its thanks to the amazing heatkiller water block and a tripple radiator

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That reassures me. I was worried that my load temps were high on water. I'm at 4.2Ghz HT on with 70C load. Guess these i7's run hot even under water. :down:

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That reassures me. I was worried that my load temps were high on water. I'm at 4.2Ghz HT on with 70C load. Guess these i7's run hot even under water. :down:

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You're doing good if your load temp is 70C at 4.2Ghz w/ HT. My Xeon W3520 was hitting 80C at 4Ghz w/ HT on aircooling with a TRUE. If I continue the build I'm working though on I'll probably be going water soon.

Can't wait to try out this new BIOS once my Enermax 1250w gets back from RMA. Hopefully it will offer a better overclocking support for the Xeons and a higher max BCLK. Has anyone checked to see if the new BIOS allows you to disable thermal throttling?

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Same here, fluctuations in core temp but not in cpuz.

One thing with the WS boards ,ASUS takes their sweet ass time with bios updates, from what Ive heard.

ASUS give me that 0410 bios already.

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Bios 0410 for P6T7??

i tought Bios 0305 is latest?

someone who will post a High BCLK with the new Bios Versions?

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Bios 0410 for P6T7??

i tought Bios 0305 is latest?

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This is where i saw it.

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...ds/1913_5.html

that must be an mistake
bios 0305 is newest i think they mean 0210 i think
you can see in bios pics that bios 0210 was installed

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that must be an mistake
bios 0305 is newest i think they mean 0210 i think
you can see in bios pics that bios 0210 was installed

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Wow, yeah, i just noticed that, good eye fire4wire.

He also went ahead and stated...

"The BIOS version installed was 0410 which is newer than that found on ASUS's website"

I don't know, that guy must of been smoking something..:rofl:

So have any of you guys tested the new 0305 BIOS and care to comment on it or what's the hold up? lol

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So have any of you guys tested the new 0305 BIOS and care to comment on it or what's the hold up? lol

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Yeah, whats the hold up ppl:shrug:

Can't say I see any obvious difference with 0305.
Still no Turbo option.


BTW, has anybody had CPU-Z acting strange with this board?
For me it will sometimes open just fine and others won't open at all, though it does show that it's an active process in task manager.
(Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2)

Thanks for bios 0305, I have this board now.
But I'm new to Core I7 so overclocking goes bad..... :am:
So first I need some Core I7 overclocking tour.....;)

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Originally Posted by jamiee

Can't say I see any obvious difference with 0305.
Still no Turbo option.


BTW, has anybody had CPU-Z acting strange with this board?
For me it will sometimes open just fine and others won't open at all, though it does show that it's an active process in task manager.
(Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2)

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No, cpuz works fine for me , a little delay , but fine.

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No, cpuz works fine for me , a little delay , but fine.

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Hmmm.... maybe I'll try re-installing Windows again.

[EDIT] Yup, looks like it was a flaky Windows install the first time around. CPU-Z is working fine now.

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Bios Beta Version 0305 for the Asus P6T7WS.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view...d=1262879&da=y

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did you came often on beta bios for p6t7?

Yeeeeehaww!

Got my P6t7 back! All usb ports and everything else working

Tried the 305 bios update but EZ flash telling me its not valid, anyone getting this message?

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Yeeeeehaww!

Got my P6t7 back! All usb ports and everything else working

Tried the 305 bios update but EZ flash telling me its not valid, anyone getting this message?

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No, but i want to flash back to 0210 and it wont let me:shakes:..any1 flash back to 210?

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No, but i want to flash back to 0210 and it wont let me:shakes:..any1 flash back to 210?

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Yes, follow the following to the exact letter and enjoy bios downgrading!:)

This method requires the Engineering Edition of AFUDOS. You can google "Afudos Engineering" to find some links to download. Here is a link I've uploaded.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/...FUDOS229ES.zip http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/...FUDOS236es.zip

I use the Boot USB method since its faster and more reliable.

Extract the AFUDOS onto your boot device along with your BIOS in the same directory.
use this command to flash:

AFUDOS /ixxxx.rom /pbnc /n where ixxxx=name.rom

After it sucessfully flashes and verifies. Turn off your machine, unplug, and remove battery.
Easy as pie, spread the word people!!!!

Do at your own risk (Disclaimer) But it works:yepp: The removal of battery is not necessary I found

Asus, now get your ass in gear and give us the bios upgrade will ya!! This board is great but is held back by this bios!

How are you guys getting by with the turbo throttling? Have you tested with the i7 Turbo tool to see if your multi is holding at 21x under load?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=225450

I can see it throttling in cpu z and real temp clearly, grrrr! Nice tool though.

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Originally Posted by lawtq

Yes, follow the following to the exact letter and enjoy bios downgrading!:)

This method requires the Engineering Edition of AFUDOS. You can google "Afudos Engineering" to find some links to download. Here is a link I've uploaded.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/...FUDOS229ES.zip http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/...FUDOS236es.zip

I use the Boot USB method since its faster and more reliable.

Extract the AFUDOS onto your boot device along with your BIOS in the same directory.
use this command to flash:

AFUDOS /ixxxx.rom /pbnc /n where ixxxx=name.rom

After it sucessfully flashes and verifies. Turn off your machine, unplug, and remove battery.
Easy as pie, spread the word people!!!!

Do at your own risk (Disclaimer) But it works:yepp: The removal of battery is not necessary I found

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Thanks man, didn't know they had a different version of afudos,I always use
dos to update bios on previous systems. :)

Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
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CPU MicroCode update

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Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
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CPU MicroCode update

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Thanks fire4wire..:)

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Bios 0303 official


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-0303.zip


[ 0303 ]
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CPU MicroCode update

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God dayamn!!!! :shocked:

You the man!! Thanx!!

So this their official next bios eh, it may be 2 monthe before they update their website with this one