any results guys
common
oh i spoke to a mate and he managed to lose that little resistor first time round like me hahahaha....lucky i have a board graveyard in my bench room to scavenge some more :ROTF:
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any results guys
common
oh i spoke to a mate and he managed to lose that little resistor first time round like me hahahaha....lucky i have a board graveyard in my bench room to scavenge some more :ROTF:
0402 resistor so small and tiny one
lost and found
lost and found
lost
removed 3 resistor from graphic card the color is white but 1k its ok
I dont want to remember that day:):rofl:
how about EX58-UD3R?
PCI-E ?
EX58 UD3R version 1.6 no need mod and new bios, just lift pcie clkQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaction
then you will fly bclk
color is not white, i soldered its other side view to pcb :p::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by tosunermc
yeah, this isn't one of those easy mods :p:
I was close to loose mine too, but found it some minutes later.
now the hard thing is to solder it back.. :rolleyes:
LOL hicookie was laughing at me on MSN while i was doing this
it looks hard but its actually a pretty easy mod
to remove it you need to have a tiny flat screw driver....just physically push it and it will pop off..........then place it on the new spot carefully, use the little screwdriver to hold it in place from the top .... just hold it on top while you put solder on one side.....when the solder grabs you can lift the little screwdiver and do the other side
easy as pie
and i am a total noob at soldiering :D :up:
i won an ud4p at the gigabyte contest guess and win, so i'll test it:asd:
finnaly its done :)
it really is a terrible job to do this mod, but like you sad Dinos, eventually when you find out how to do it, its not that hard..
next up: Bclock testing :yepp:
My result after done the mod...CPU cooled by dry ice and 3 x HD4890 on CFX mode.
Set 106 MHz on PCIe
Rig photo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...e/IMG_8268.jpg
Boot 234 MHz BCLK from BIOS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...e/IMG_8264.jpg
3D Benchmark all @ 232 BCLK x 21, HT On
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ark03_139K.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mark05_42K.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...mark06_33K.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...antage_26K.jpg
SuperPI 32M @ 234 BCLK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...2m_bclk234.jpg
Super PI 1M @ 235 BCLK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...1m_236bclk.jpg
CPU-Z Validation @ 237 BCLK
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...e/cpuz_337.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=587263
I think it will be higher with LN2, maybe 5 - 10 MHz more on BCLK
very nice benny :)
Nice work Benny :up:
Great numbers Benny :up:
I'm getting someone else to do the mod for me. I took one look at the size of those resistors and knew i'd butcher it :yawn::lol2: I'll have some W3540 & cascade action next week. can't wait :cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tosunermc
CAN EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE vmode IN EXTREME X58 :shrug::shrug:
THANKS
nice one we havent reach that high clocks
Anyone tested with other values of the resistor? Results?
The mod is working well here. At least now it looks like I can max out my W3540 on cascade. It sucked big time to be stuck on 222bclk. Now I don't think there's any need to buy a Classified :)
It very nearly did a 32m run at this clock. There should be more in it with some tweaking. Sub 7m 32m is very close :D
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/774/1m5290.jpg
you need to be on tripple channel for fast Pi
I know, I'm the newest member of the dead elpida hyper club... 1 stick gone :(Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
do you explain the extreme vmode x58?
ahy what that soldier? :shrug:
Ok, here's my story for now. Boy I need some LN2 :)
Testbed
Gigabyte EX58-UD5 - F8X Bios + mod
Intel Core i7 920 D0
V0rt3x Ghetto SS (~-20oC)
3x2GB OCZ DDR3 1600CL7
IDE 40GB Maxtor
OCZ EliteXStreme 1000W
Room temp ~29oC
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1346/testbedx.th.jpg
SuperPI 32M - 230BCLK x 21 = 4844MHz (ignore the bad time, bad OS)
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/638/230bclk.th.jpg
SuperPI 1M - 237 BCLK x 21 = 4974MHz
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7753/236bclk.th.jpg
CPU-Z Validation - 238 BCLK x 21 = 4999 MHz (also have a 5GHz one but it is marked red by CPU-Z)
RAM OC - CPU-Z Validation - DDR3 2400 9-9-9-24 1T
I have started to test EX58-Extreme with air cooling.
1. As I saw that someone found that 129MHz PCIe was the best on his board, I tried that. :p The board booted and was pretty stable. However, I backed down to 115MHz and atm I find that more stable. Before mod I was not able to boot above 103MHz PCIe.
2. I am still not able to go higher than ~222MHz BCLK.
Conclusion: I guess I have to improve my soldering skills? :p
did you use the new bios?
without the bios.. you won't pass that 222bclock wall.
If you already have, make sure you use 10x memory multiplier and 20x uncore multiplier. Those defenitly work best :)
yep, I use the new BIOS. I also have uncore set to 20x. :)
I don't think I can use 10x for memory as my RAMs max out... I use some old D9GTR.
i tried doing the mod, and now i get error 88 on the display.trust my luck. probably didnt do the mod good enough.anyone know whatt error 88 is.
from what hicookie told me it shouldnt really do anything if you stuff up the mod
88 under cold is cold bug but if on air.......you might be in trouble...usually thats a bad sign when it starts throwing that error :(
its on air ,soo :(
My Results with this mod and a UD4P, promising for sure! Haven't seemd to get much higher, but could just be that I have reached the max on these CPU's and or I need Sub Zero Cooling. I am on water and temps seemed fine, but I do see the frozen CPU's going much further.
Seems to me that higher PCIE Freq does not help after a certain point. I think maybe 104-110 is the nice range to be in. Higher did not help, at least for me anyway, and seemed like maybe 104-106 was the best range for my setup.
I did try 120 without any major improvements, but I still have yet to be able to put much time into it.
229 Blck W/ 920 SuperPI 1MB
Never tried more, maybe later. Just messing around
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9914/snap004.th.png
231.85 Blck W/ 920
http://i42.tinypic.com/icns6w.png
CPU-Z Validator 3.0
231.04 Blck W/ 965
http://i44.tinypic.com/6gcs2t.png
CPU-Z Validator 3.0
Max so far with Crossfire'd 3870's, haven't had much time to play though
228.49 Blck W/ 965
http://i44.tinypic.com/f9jwqb.png
CPU-Z Validator 3.0
Where is the mod for EX58-Extreme and what BIOS version did you use (the BIOS version in this thread is for UD5 I think) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by blossa
I can't find them (bios and mod) :shrug:
hello
id love it if someone could PM me the directions/beta bios for the UD5 on how to do this as well please :)
an stuck at the 222 bclk wall myself on the UD5
would really appreciate it :)
thank you loads in advance guys .
you wouldnt mind sharing it? :) im all eager to try new things :)
HiCookie, you mention the mod is un-needed for UD3R rev1.6 - I have rev1.0 so I need to do it? Desperate to get over 200BCLK stable, can only bench to 202 no matter multi/voltage combinations.
Memory will also not go over 1630 (D9JNL iirc) and needs stupid volts to get there at 8x compared to 10x multi (where it does 1875mhz c7 same voltage). However cant do over 197 stable with 10x mem multi. Uncore good to 3800+.
Sound like bios and mod will help or look elsewhere for what's causing the limit?
Thanks :cool:
The Mod is not needed for UD3R rev. 1.6, but the special BIOS may be? Or you can use SetFSB to raise PCIE if the BIOS will not allow you, which is all the special BIOS's do is allow PCIE to be set over 103
If I can also get the bios and the mod guide please, thanks....Quote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
Running x58-extreme on Phase Change...would very much appreciate it,if someone could pm me the mod guide and where to get the bios for the mb I have. Stuck at the 222bclk wall. :shrug:
Houston......we have lift off:woot:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/...ba1d785a_o.jpg
I never want to solder a spec of sand again.
yesterday, i tried 1 UD5 and 1 DS4, i think i got a nice 975 for bclk
air cooling 238MHz stable on UD5, and 235MHz on DS4. even use same CPU
the NB margin also affects the BCLK.
nice CPU for sure man :up:
cpu can have a big effect on BCLK and NB speed for sure
what bios are you guys using? i can run 4.8ghz on my classy but only 4.2ghz on this extreme58. any tips on the bios too?
hicookie/dinos can I have the UD5 bios plz??? Got the mod, one hand on the solder another on the usb stick.......
Guys, this mod IS in this thread.
Just search for it.
this mod works just great!
Gigabyte UD4P and 110mhz PCI-e
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...clockvalid.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=604005
Yeap, it sure does
http://i31.tinypic.com/2818tqw.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=604476
I think I need a D0 CPU now :lol:
920 D0....Managed to get 231bclk....should there be more in the tank ....guys?
Well I just completely f****d my board doing this.
Removed the resistor, went to re-solder in the slot below but could not get it to stick, now I have lost any metal to metal contact where the solder was for both the original spot and where it was meant to go. I got a hot glue gun and put it back in to place where it was originally. One PCI-e lane is dead and I can only boot with 1 stick of RAM. lol... that will teach me.
I wonder how far into the RMA process it will get before being rejected.
I would just ask them..how much would they charge to repair it...might be 50 bucks or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by [200]
That's my plan, I cannot see it being too much to be honest.
I was looking at the resistor I was meant to pop and thinking damn that's small... I guess me having the shakes doesn't help much either.
so you guys really don't like the classified huh....?
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3...erpi920744.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3227/superpi8313.jpg
I don't like the Classified's price, that's for sure... most boards seem to require a hard mod and are right on the Classies heels now, at almost half the price... for benching I would buy a classified, for daily use absolutely not...
i had a gigabyte first, but thought the classified was suppose to be better, so i sold my giga and got a classy....shoot, my giga was like 320 bucks when i bought it...what is considered cheap??lol
220 euro's instead of 400 ? Let's focus on improving the giga's here, classie owners got their own thread(s)...
Why buy classified board when you can mod a much cheaper gigabyte motherboard and get allmost the same speed..
A X58 UD4P motherboard is allmost half the of a classified
pm send for f9x for x58-ud5
thanks
Very nice clocking! Is gigabyte going to release 1.6 revisions of the other x58 boards as well, like they did with their EX58-UD3R? In this revision the pci-e clocking was fixed, allowing bclk above 222mhz, right? I sure do hope so, I'm looking for a x58 mobo atm, and these gigabyte boards sure do look tempting if they manage to fix bclk clocking above 222mhz ;)
I wouldn't really mind doing the mod myself, but I can't afford to lose the warranty :(
i'm still using the F8x bios (email and pm sent Hicooke :) ) and this is where im at :
http://www.ollyk.com/236.jpg
I am about max on this board I think.
Just need 1 more on that multi heh :)
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7...ipboard01u.png
booj your killing it on that board man, keep that :banana::banana::banana::banana: up ;)
Great work!
Kan anyone tell me what ohm is on those resistors, if one has lost them and need to find a couple off new ones?
The Resistor is about 1K ohm (that's what i measured on EX58 Extreme)
did you measured it when it was of the mobo or when it was on the mobo?
I measured it when it was out of the MB.
Measurment when it is soldered will not tell the Correct Value .
Thats wy i asked... :)
Seriously looking at this board - can Hicookie or Dinos shed some light on the possibility of revised versions of the UD4P or UD5 being released that don't require a hardmod, similar to the UD3R v1.6? Willing to break out the soldering iron, but if I don't have to, then all the better.
I am stuck at 233.9 MHz, once I go into 234MHz the mouse slows (glitchy)....then the screen goes a little pixel'y , followed by lock up. Temps are fine...PCI-e at 129MHz.
Need some help on this....hate to ask. But I can't find any mention on what to adjust to perhaps push through it.
Are you using water cooling? I get the exact same issue with my Asus P6T board but I am only using water cooling. From what I have read, those posting higher BCLK frequency are using liquid nitrogen or phase change.
Hopefully when I get my board back I might be able to give this another attempt, maybe just using a heat gun to stick some wires to the right spot with the resistor soldered to the end. I miss my gigabyte board and I will have a phase change unit to play with shorty as well.
Any tips for the UD4P? i'm having issue to get a 965 (ES C0) at 4GHz with a Bclk of 200Mhz :(
Giga X58 Extreme running phase, at the 233.9 ...temp is -25C....starting to think to get the last few MHz out...might have to go with a Classified :shrug:
Temp & Humidity is getting high in the house these days....we have no AC. Might go on air till fall :shakes:
I don't know if it is the ram or the video causing the issue at 234+. Maybe NB.
Where is the info for the mod at? I have looked all through this thread and did not see it?
email hicookie for info
I think putting a VR in place of the resistor is the way to go but i've not had time to do anything yet...
What options for such frequency?Quote:
Originally Posted by Booj
hmm this will test my memory. The board has the pcie mod w/ F8x bios & cascade cooledQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexxx650
bios set
1.6 vcore, 1.46 vtt, 1.3 ioh, 112mhz pcie
2:8 ram, loosened timings & extra vdimm for headroom. 16x uncore.. if there's more I forget :p:
booted at 229bclk & used setfsb up from there
Is anyone hitting these high (220+) Bclks on air with any regularity, or is the usefulness of the mod mostly reserved for the subzero folks?
Booj NB air cooled or other(water, di, LN2)? CPU PLL voltage? Thanks.
It's all pulled apart now so I can't give exact settings. Cpu pll would have been auto or a notch above. The nb was stock air cooled :)
i've tried 231bclk/121pcie boot on P55 with 750es :D
how are you guys running high pci-e freq? i tryed 106mhz and it wouldn't boot, i'm also using bios f9d and it has a huge hdd bug, i get 1MB/s transfer speed from my hdd to my pendrive and it takes like 2 minutes to boot.
They hard mod the mobo
Some Dice results, think I maxed my board out as I can only get to 239 with 3 CPU's and any CPU Multi. Either way, Gigabyte's rock!!! Can't wait for the board revisions.
BIOS F9c
238.97 Blck x 19 HT on
http://i28.tinypic.com/mwfbpy.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=645053
236.26 x Blck x 21 HT on
http://i25.tinypic.com/wlsop5.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=643144
Lsdmeasap nice result. Congratulation!
Lsdmeasap - maybe I've missed it, but has there been actual confirmation of a board revision on the current range of GB boards, or are you talking about the EX58A boards that are due out sometime? Very curious to know if a minor HW revision to the current line may remove the need for a hardmod. I hear the UD3R already has this change in a current revision?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
Sorry, friends, been busy i will host all latest x58 BIOS including improve some memory performance and B2B Cas delay.
here is a simple 2:10 226BCLK on UD3R testing.
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gigabyte/226.png
max bclk http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8...me32237.th.png Vista better what XP for high bclk. I dont understand it. 3D much worse. :(
hicookie you're a monster :up:
Update latest BIOS
GA-EX58DS4
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...os/EX58DS4.F7E
GA-EX58 EXTREME
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...ios/EX58EX.F8I
GA-EX58 UD3R
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...s/EX58UD3R.F7E
GA-EX58 UD4
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...os/EX58UD4.F6E
GA-EX58 UD4P
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...s/EX58UD4P.F9E
GA-EX58 UD5
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...os/EX58UD5.F8H
GA-EX58 UD3R SLI
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/Gig...os/UD3RSLI.F5C
hicookie
OMG!!! a I need flash the BIOS nowQuote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
Yes, the X58 boards will receive a refresh when the P55 boards are released. They plan to release them all at once so that the new features like "Smart 6" all get released at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
Hard Mod will not be needed on the revised boards, and yes the UD3R rev 1.6 already has the modification made.
hicookie bios F8i ex58etreme better what F8x? Or F8i official Bios and he is not intended for hich bclk? Thank you )
Dear all, i will host new BIOS tomorrow
cuz since intel didn't want to fix their microcode
those new betas i host are with new microcode but lock
D0 CPU ratios, i i will make new betas with old microcode
:shakes: already told them on Apirl....seems like intel don't want
to fix that.
hicookie
:eek: i don't understand :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
D0 CPU's only have 8 and 10 Memory multipliers if you use the BIOS's with the broken microcode in them, thus also making the uncore ratio's available incorrect. I believe this also may apply to the CPU Multi as well like Hicookie said, I forgot as I have not flashed with a broken one for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaJ0r
Main thing is you want to wait, unless you have C0 CPU, even then you should wait as well
only the 6x and 8x memory multipliers are available with the new bioses.
its not possible to run 10x... thats were the problem is when you want to overclock..
im back to F9X :)
still the best bios for UD4P
Thanks for the info. Any idea on release timeframe? I heard they had been delayed somewhat due to the new SATA 6Gbps controllers, but didn't know how long that was going to take. I'm picking up a current UD5 in the next few days, but if the revised boards are inbound soon-ish, I may hold off a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
updating new BIOS with old microcode, yup if intel guys looking this thread
please fix ur microcode, all manufactures used same new microcode
*new bios with old microcode to unlock D0 CPU ratios & dividers
*also you can download from official website, we host release bios already.
EX58UD3R
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...3103#anchor_os
EX58UD3R-SLI
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/x58...009/ud3rsli.f5
EX58UD4
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/x58...009/ex58ud4.f6
EX58UD4P
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/x58...09/ex58ud4p.f9
EX58UD5
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/x58...009/ex58ud5.f8
EX58 Extreme
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/x58...2009/EX58EX.F8
hicookie
Just flashed F9 bios (UD4P), got it from GB directly haven't tested it, do they have big changes? what are the improvements?
I do believe they will be here VERY Soon, set to be released with P55 of course. I think that would be the end of this month/beginning of next month. At least that is what I have seen tossed aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by trakslacker
HiCookie is the one to tell us about that, but maybe he is not allowed to say?
Quote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
Thanks HiCookie!
Well crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap
I've got a UD5 showing up today via UPS. I may have to refuse delivery and wait it out for the refresh. I normally do not fall prey to waiting for the "latest and greatest" (b/c then you never buy anything), but in this case I may have to make an exception as the EX58A baords look like a very solid upgrade.
As soon as I find a decent place to bench I am gonna give you some good numbers HiCookie.. both Intel and AMD ones ;)
My EX58UD5@EX58 Extreme
Bios F8 full stability On frequency of 215 MHz
216 MHz it is not stable
Thank you hicookie for bios & mod :D
My result On-Air Coolling.
System
i7 920 FPO 3910Axxx
CPU Cooling Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme1366 + fan 3600rpm.
MoBo EX58-UD4P F9x & mod
Crucial DDR3 Value 1333
VGA GIGABYTE GTX260 c216
WD 320GB
ODIN Pro 550watt
==============================
Max Bclk 232mhz On-Air
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=613029
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/613029.png
Max Ghz 4.79g On-Air
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=604466
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/604466.png
and more result....