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Still think you should make 2 2.5" bays for performance drives
An adapter for the HDD rack could be supplied with the case, or as an optional extra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
Not sure if anybody already mention to put a swappable caster / feet. I dont think anyone would enjoy lifting up casing that has few radiator in it. :O
New thread and I still want the case! I'm still not a huge fan of the look of that front grill, I prefer the look of a little chrome bolt-on grill, but thats just me, if it bothered me I would just mod it.
90 degree rotation for the PSU so people can put 2 if they want(not sure why you would need to, but choices are always nice). Who is thinking of picking this baby up? I hope it's silverstone or Lian-Li, their build quality is amazing.
GREAT IDEA!!! :up: Seriously I think it is a great way to use that space wisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by No1451
The case is wide enough for two PSU's, but I would have to increase the height of the bottom chamber and, therefore the height of the case, to allow for the width of the PSU's which I don't want to do. Also, IMO, it would be detrimental to the case air flow as well as making the bottom chamber extremely cluttered....Quote:
Originally Posted by No1451
It was suggested by vinister, in the Computer Cases section, that the front panel may look better with a flush fan grill. What do you guys think?
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...e-mkII-25s.jpg
Why not something like this, so you can kind of keep that square look to the front. You can add your own creative design on this. Like a logo fan grill
http://www.dansdata.com/images/pc76/grille440.jpg
that looks pretty restrictive...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
What if you don't want to use a 140mm fan on the hardrives.. it would be an empty hole..Quote:
Originally Posted by werdwerdus
Everything has a nice square look to it and then a big circle in the front.. looks out of place.
This is an interesting idea Eddie! Something like this would be essayer to fabricate, I think, than a circular grill. The thing is, I want the front grill to match the honeycomb pattern of the side grills, so maybe I'll see what a square grill looks like with the honeycomb pattern....:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie3dfx
Is this to be retail? i mean are you to mass product? Cause i keep seeing statements like "will be included" and i am a bit confused.
Anyhow it is a great design. You could make the Grills squared out or put a logo on them.
Also maybe put the switches above the front I/O
With or Without the above it is better than many cases which are out there and have a pricetag bigger than 300USD Well done
It's just a design at the moment I'm afraid, But I am trying to get a case manufacturer interested in producing it. Unfortunately, these are difficult times and even the biggest companies are watching their profit margins very closely.Quote:
Originally Posted by masxerofkartis
How come you don't have two mounts for rads on top and bottom?
If this case is reasonably cheap, I'm selling my case and getting this. But I'd like to be able to put 2 swiftechs at the bottom and 2 120.4s on the top.
Props on the best case I've ever seen.
Also, since there's SO much space at the front, it would be nice to move the bay behind the fan a bit toward the mobo tray and make it optional to have a 160mm rad up front.
I know, I'm extreme when it comes to radiator realestate.
Edit: My god, I keep looking at how perfect a case this is. Get someone to produce this. haha. if it's below 4 bills I'd do it no question.
How about a square fan grill? As suggested by Eddie3dfx....:up:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...e-mkII-26s.jpg
this might be a stupid idea, but maybe behind mobo tray hdd mounting?
Not a stupid idea. It is actually what I am doing. I made a third inner door that holds 4 HDD'd. It folds behing the mobo tray and can fold out after the otter door is removed to access whatever. It's not finished and was one of the cool mods I was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogerlad
mick, i think it looks alot better with the square fan slot, otherwise it looks amazing. when does it go into production?
Wondering the same thing, we really need this case:)
Hmmm.. looks really good!
I think that the Square fangrill looks best.
I don't know if this has been suggested, but what about a few USB ports on the top, that can be covered up?
Anyone like white? :cool:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...e-mkII-28s.jpg
White looks bretty terrible IMO... but everyone has their opinions ;)
I think it looks pretty cool, my big thing is drive bays I always like computers with a TON of full size bays because you never know what the future may hold and I view cases as long term investment.
I would like to see switches like this
http://www.frozencpu.com/images/prod...in/ele-272.jpg
they have such a nice feel on them when pressed and I just love the look. I think something like this would make the case look sleeker!
I would buy this case. I hope you can get it made.
it's ok in white, but I'm more of a black case kinda guy :up:
I don't think there is enough white cases on the market, but maybe there is a reason :shrug: People think they look crap...
Case looks excellent, square grill a definite improvement, think you could throw something of known size on a render to get at better feel for the actual size?
If white is going to be the color for the case then black needs to an option as well. Looks good. I counted 8 pci slots which I like. The evga classified needs 8 and I bet future motherboards will follow suit
Just to keep your mouths watering...:cool:
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-30.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...se-mkII-35.jpg
Wow, that looks even better.
Imagine it in piano black, or wood grain with black grills now that is what I would call mouth watering...
I think the square grill looks better, it matches the case's lines. Also could you try a dark grey color, with maybe black grills. But as you probably are aware the case looks awesome.
I'm feeling a little despondent at the moment, after the recent data loss, as there had been a great deal of discussion about my case design over the past week or so. A large number of posts have been lost in this thread, and even more so in my 'Computer Cases' thread. All of the posts lost were encouraging and some were offering support in my quest to get this case built and put into production. So I'm feeling a little reluctant to start posting again at the moment, but I'm not going to give up just yet. Just need to get back on track!
like was just posted in the other thread, databases can be merged easily, I wouldnt worry about posting stuff now and the other posts may come back soon :)
FUGGER has stated in the 'Forum Comments' thread that the data has been lost! :(
nice renders... like you said, some missing though... repost please.
Hmm I guess my post got lost. I think I said something like:
The extra hole in the case for the PSU fan is a little odd. I was thinking that you could do a similar thing to the Lian Li V2000 case and flip the PSU so its the other way up (the fan faces down like normal case) and then put holes in the bottom bracket that is holding the PSU up so it can get hold of some air. That way the PSU is in its normal orientation and you don't need the hole mid case.
Don't give up Mick, I think you're doing a fantastic job with your design. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
You're really listening to what people want and creating something very special. I know it's a drag losing all those posts and maybe a little bit of your momentum, but keep your chin up and remember that everything happens for a reason. :)
OK, I'm not going to bother re-posting the renders and animations that were lost, as they are now, basically, out of date.
Here is my latest render, now with a 140mm exhaust fan at the rear....
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...II-50-1024.jpg
Here is my latest 360 degree animation, including the 140mm fan, with and without the side panels....
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...ani_panels.gif
Finally, here is a simple animation showing the case air flow, which is the reason why the PSU is mounted with fan facing upwards.....
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...aseAirFlow.gif
Love your animations.....Should make one with me humping it! :up:
Yeah, those animations are sexy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
I honestly don't know how it is possible to design a better case than this. This case is basically perfect.
Love the case! I would like more 5.25" slots but could live with 3... maybe have 3 HD slots and 4 5.25? I would buy one of these cases for sure.
If this case was to get built, I'd have to move to core i7 early. It's a perfect case for dual loops.
Maybe have the option to mount (just) a 360 rad "on top" and have 2 more 5.25 bay's to use ?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1
Anyway , love the case , i want one and i would go fore this case over a MM any day :clap:
I was just thinking 'what the hell' why don't I just ask the question; is there anyone out there who thinks they can get this case built? Basically, I haven't the time or funds to get it made myself, and none of the case manufacturers I've approached seem to be interested. At this point in time I just want to see it become a reality. So, if there's someone who has got the resources to get my design off the drawing board, please let me know......
I can surely look into it at the machine shop. I was going to build it anyway...:rofl: What do you guys think this sucker will cost? Do you have all the specs with measurements for this? I'll save money by using the hdd cage and other cages from other cases that were gutted around here.
yes maybe have the front intake as a 3x 5 1/4 bay device?
I dunno, I love the case, but, part of me wants the front to be cleaner without the grill of the 160mm fan :(
Would also be good if either the bottom or top rad mounts were removeable to include room for hdd bays for file a handy file server.
Good work!
I'm still gonna get you in touch with the fellow @ lian li mick, but also there was a link bentleya posted in the LC render thread where there was a place that fabbed custom electronics casings of all shapes and sizes.... ill lookQuote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
It's a 200mm intake fan, without it you wouldn't have any air flow through the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hens
I designed this case for a two loop watercooled system, not a file server! If you're after a case for a file server, buy a Lian Li...
Thanks.
Thanks SNiiPE, I did have a look at that site that bentleya posted, but I think I would need to have my design converted to CAD before they could give me quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
solidworks? if lian-li doesnt pan out I will redraw the system in solidworks for you, this case is too sweet to see go unmade :D
NEWS FLASH: http://www.solidworks.com/sw/esp/4644_ENU_HTML.htm
solidworks 08 student free for 90 days !!!!!!
Wow. Awesome CG and animations.
I like the black case more than that white one.
This really needs to become a reality, and I like the black on white look.
The renders keep getting better and better. How close is this to becoming a reality?
how much is it to get a case like this fabbed?
Geeze guys, if you read the thread, we have no idea how much its going to cost, mick and I are working on that soon hopefully :D
if the Tj07 is like the most expensive case on market, in UK i paid £240 for it this is Crazy price for a case, silverstone are rip of by far make maximum profit. A range of £100 - £200 would be good over 200 would be to much.
I think you could look at the Lian-li v2010 as a price for this case if made by lian-li - maybe add £30
I could get that case made, but not until July. A few modifications would be need to be made also to reduce the cost of fabrication. Materials would cost about £120. Machine time approx £80-130 for a one-off. (cnc press, laser/water cutting)
Just to let you know, I've started working on some detailing on how this thing would be put together. As it is at the moment, fabrication would be a little difficult, so a few minor changes will be needed. These changes will not affect the way the case looks, just the way the sections are attached to one another.....
Watch this space!
I am working on the details of fabrication.....Are the materials cost you're quoting Aluminium or steel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Extigy
If a one off is looking at roughly £250 you are onto a winner!
I expect a PM as soon as this case is made. im buying one...haha
Mick, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, you can count me in for 2, and if you get the price around what was mentioned a few post up then you can expect a couple more from me.... could really use one for a build I am mocking up now
lol me too, i cant wait for this!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by breathemetal
I'll have one too :yepp:
i doubt... removing the bottom pannel (usb+firewire etc) will be possible mount a longer psu (something like the pcpower & cooling Turbo-Cool 1.2Kw 230mm) with a triple radiator?
so whats the plans on selling this case?
whos going to make it for you?
how much will the final cost be?
where can we buy one?
why not put a side intake or not. i know it'll mess up the clean side look, but most WC'ers dont have enough cooling for the ram/nb/mosfets.
i know in my case w/ only front intake and rear exhaust on my haf, my nb burns up and ram gets hot. When i have a side intake at 1200rpm everything cools down to the touch...
Perhaps for us fans of upside down motherboards, you could design it so that the motherboard and mid plate could be unfastened via thumbscrews and flipped to the otherside of the case. Along with that, make the side panels swapable so the window would end out on the right side.
....just a thought. :)
Symmetrical side-panels would solve that problem with wanting to have window and possibility to have inverted ATX style mobo.
Quote:
Originally Posted by autobot
This is a fantastic idea, and very simple to do with my design! This will also be another very good selling point. With a few minor alterations, this case will be fully reversible. Watch this space!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
Well, if catering for upside down motherboards why not make the rear panel 3 moveable sections? This way not only can the mb tray be flpped it can also be lowered by strange people like me who don't like bottom mounted rads and would rather have 2 rads at the top ;)
What do strange people like me then do about the psu ? We move it to the bottom of the case but at the front and exhaust the heat through a cut out in the bottom of the case :)
Glad I could come with some input. I hope that someone wants to produce your case, not that I would probably afford it, but for your effort and new thinking you deserve your own case ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
This is some seriously great work, you are starting to do what I'm sure a lot of us have thought about, but never necessarily made the effort that you have had.
It is extremely functional, but is it wide enough to accommodate additional hard drives. Possibly placing them in front of of the lower radiator fans. You may have to widen the case by a 10mm or so. Is the case capable of supporting two psus mounted vertically as other cases with these sort of dimensions usually are?
What sort of things can you do to the front that will create a bit more of an elegant look that would broaden the audience to make it more attractive for a case manufacturer to make this into a tangible product. Two constant lines like the tj-07, or a constant mesh appearance such as the original V-Series. The key thing is to have an elegant front, with a consistent design element for it to be sucessful product sale. A huge part of this hobby is machine lust, and great design helps move products (think apple). It might even be a worthwhile consideration to make the interior of the case out of steel, painted black to lower costs. Since a case like this is going to be heavy once its loaded up with radiators, fans etc, the weight savings are negligible. Unless the cost of shipping and distribution out weighs the cost savings of going with steel for the interior.
B/c in the end something like this is bound to cost 500 usd or more.
Un less you had a different business model in mind.
"The dimensions of the case are: depth - 680mm, width - 230mm, height - 620mm"
I'm building my own custom chassis although mine will have these dimensions: depth 620mm, width ~230mm, height 650mm. These may change some cm here or there. I'm building a prototype in cardboard because I ain't that good with sketchup :\
Anyway the prototype is almost done and it is freaking HUGE. My current chassis (p182) looks like a miniature model of a chassis if I compare them! I'm seriously considering scaling it down or changing design to a cube. Although cubes are ugly as hell when compared to a tower... yeek (IMO ofc)
I'm going with a similar design as you but with the top compartment dedicated for hdds, psu, fancontrollers etc. And that compartment will be isolated from the others and only have a 120mm fan blowing air through. And then a vertical 360rad up the front and another 360rad in the lower compartment. And dual loops.
Do you have thoughts of scaling it down?
No! I'm actually making it a little longer to 700mm!!!! Frickin huge! I know......
Shize :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
Bigger omg. what do you need all that space for?
Anyway I considered to put a radiator in top as your design but I don't like it. I don't know why maybe ill go with that design. But doesn't the top rad fill the res because it has a higher location. And it must be a pita to fill that rad after a drain or am i missing something?
Because putting one of the rads in top would solve quite much for me. I'm going for a clean front :S And I still haven't decided where to put the cd/dvd...
Slim-DVD at the side looks always great and takes minimal area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodholm
Comparision:
http://img.techpowerup.org/090428/lolz2.jpg
Typical product:
http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010127306.aspx
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodholm
Not much room if using a long PSU! Need a little more space in the area between a long PSU and the bottom rad...
The res doesn't need to be above the rad. You fill the res, turn on the pump until the res is empty, then refill the res until the loop is full. No problem!
Yeah I know, I want to put one in top so you slide it in from above but the chassis is a bit to high for that. 650mm + dvd (120mm) thats 770 mm and that is bigger than most desktops (and mine). I think the recommended hight on a desktop is 700mm. You should also consider that mick. If you are making your chassis 700.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnsucht
ok, thanks for the clarification. But cant you align the psu side by side with the radiator? it would only block some air and it shouldn't hurt the temps. This would give you tons of space for the cables.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
There is a PSU extension bracket that would have made a long PSU fit with a 360 rad without any problems without having to extend the case at PPCS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...s/pe01b_02.jpg
Yeah but flipping it over and have it all inside looks better imo. And you save some more space. Because these chassis isn't something you take with you and lan :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Sadasius
Haven't had time to do any rendering yet, but here's a few pix from SketchUp which show the latest design changes. It is now possible to reverse the motherboard tray and flip the side panels. Both rad brackets have been shortened so that you can fit an optional HDD rack in the bottom and an optional 5.25" drive rack in the top. I've also added much of the details as to how the case would be constructed....
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...ase006-01a.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...ase006-01b.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...ase006-01d.jpg
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http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...ase006-01f.jpg
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lol please stop teasing me! this case looks so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing amazing, i cant wait to see it being produced...i love the way the mobo tray comes out!
very nice work!!!!!!!!
.....aaaaaaaaand now this is the best case idea ever!
Silverstone...buy this idea and produce it NOW!
Silverstone TJ-1337 FTW edition!
Nice....Can't wait to work on this one next! :up:
Man, it's getting better by the day.
I've run out of suggestions and/or criticism.
Now I just want one sitting next to me, waiting to be filled :p:
Mick, your really tempting me with this case...and that's saying something coming from a mATX case die hard. :yepp::up:
If this is produced, I would buy one immediately, and would likely own two.
The renders look better than any case I've seen.
In my humble opinion, there should not be dedicated 3.5" HDD rack in the central part of the case. Instead, it is better to have additional 5.25" bays, where 3.5" drives can be mounted in removable cage (like Coolermaster did in their original Stacker design). This approach has the following advantages:
1) It is more flexible - you can use available space for whatever you need - 5.25", 3.5", 2.5" devices, reservoirs, or even install additional radiator in front of the case;
2) Front intake fan will work more effectively without having to blow through drive cage walls spanning across the case right before it (instead, we get some sort of the duct formed by 5.25 bay walls); Having a lot of spare 5.25 bays allows to install not 1, but 2 intake fans, which will more than compensate decrease of fan size;
3) It is more future proof - we are going to use 2.5" SSDs soon :), which are silent and cold, so they can be stuck just to any side of the case and dedicated 3.5 bays will be totally wasted;
4) Integral side walls of 5.25 bay area will make entire case more rigid;
Just have one request, could you pretty please bend the laws of physic and make it bigger on the inside then on the outside ;)
That is one freaking big tower, but anything able to fit that amount of radiators internally is going to be huge. And if available I would definitely consider one of those when buying a new case.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderer256
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WHat size does ssd use? do they fasten them in 3,5 slots?
SSDs are either 1.8" or 2.5", and there is NO performance difference between both sizes (intel + samsung drives)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brodholm
5.25" is more future proof and makes it much easier to decouple storage drives (rubber bands) and you can fit 4 2.5" SSDs into one 5.25" bay ;)
but i want to ask for one change: make it shorter again
this case is so huge already (you can fit 2 dual 240s and 2 480 rads without any Mods in the short version), its market would be much smaller if you make it that long
although the case is big already I cant see how 2cm is going to affect the design that much more =/Quote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
IMO, 3x 5.25" drive bays would be enough, but I have provided the option of another two at the expense of reducing the 120.4 to a 120.3. The HDD drive rack would be removable anyway, so that you can have the drives in any orientation. I may even provide an optional alternative rack designed to hold SSD's, I'm just not quite sure of the dimensions at the moment. I'm pretty sure air flow would be more than adequate and you could always fit a 160.1 rad in front of that 200mm fan if you really wanted to???Quote:
Originally Posted by wanderer256
I, personally, use 6 5.25" bays in my TJ07: 2 rheobuses, 1 optical drive and 3 3.5" HDDs suspended in this. As it was mentioned before, 5.25" bays are very good for decoupling of HDDs using suspension. And I'd gladly use another two bays for reservoirs for my 2 loops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
yes. but all 5.25 drive bys would provide flexibility of moving drives around. if someone wishes to remove three of them? even get the antec 900 effect of 2 fans in the frontQuote:
Originally Posted by Mick64
the only thing i dont like is the psu fan hole... itll pull hot air from the graphics cards... wouldnt it make sense to pull cool air from under the case by flipping it?