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Originally Posted by sideeffect
It's a PII so i hope it is automatically disabled... i saw this problem in another forum, and the user wrote the "TLB-bug" is active if he looks in AOD...after disabling the option in AOD the cpu was cooler and a bit better to OC (all on a DS4H) :confused:
I could not see a TLB reading in AOD or setting to change it. CrystalCpu doesn't read the phenom 2 correctly because it hasn't been updated in a while and the TLB_Disable program does not support Phenom 2 either so how did the other user check this?
You are prabably talking about AMD Boost aka CPU Tweak (on older mobos bioses). It will give some extra boost but it increases idle temps quite a lot. Though my experiences show that at least Phenom 9950 BE wont run hotter @ full load when AMD Boost is enabled. It seems to raise just the idle/partial load temps. And yes, it may affect higher clocks. My opinion is that you should search your maximum OC with boost enabled. Then try how much higher it will go without it. Then do some benches and compare the results. It could be possible that the slightly lower clocks with boost yields better results. And since the load temp doesn't rise (MAYBE it can rise about 1-2 degrees celsius)... it is your decision if you use it or not. It is so simple to toggle that it is not a big deal (open AOD, press the circle in the upper right corner, it is enabled/disabled immediately after pressing, you can see it from temps in AOD or other program)
In my case idle temps are something like:
Boost off 27-32C / Boost on 37-40C
i never use AOD so it was my mistake...the guy said red ring around the green dot, but this means full performance (http://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/21202/4/), so it is automatically disabled :up:
does anyone's cnq work on 720be or any phenom II? my is enabled in bios but cpu multi/volts never change a single bit
using vista x64
C&Q enabled in bios. fans auto in bios....and C&Q driver must be installed.
Windows power options need to be set to minimal power usage.
still cannot get it to work. using vista x64. cannot find drivers in amd website too.
ok finally got it to work. missing 1 more step. cpu multi needs to set to auto
F4A official bios out
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2887
1. Improve Phenom II CPU compatibility
2. Improve Audio compatibility
Dont use the F4A bios if you have an unlocked 720B.E, lol. Seems as though the ACC to Auto trick doesnt work anymore with this bios version. I went back to F3H:)
Couple of things on this bios ver, Unganged and Ganged are back, also "save a backup image of bios" option is there. Otherwise everything else is the same.
does f3h have any slow post issue or cold boot issue when acc is on?
So anyone tried f4a out yet with x4's?
Will try this out asap... good find!
ganged mode is back guys but this bios suck as well for oc no improvement at all
AOD acts a bit wierd. When trying to set PCIe to 100MHz, it bounces to 142MHz. 101MHz works right. For some reason PCIe was 108MHz when I managed to boot to XP first time. First boot (with OC) to XP failed (freeze) when I launched AOD. But it could be because XP was still launching programs at that point. Then I tried Win7 beta and found that PCIe speed issue. First I thought it is W7 bug but happened in XP too. Now I tried to shut down the rig from W7 and it cold booted fine with ACC, now I'm gonna try with XP.
^ I had the same issue when using AOD. I still had cold boot issues with Vista 32.
I'm back to F3H.
I just installed the f4a bios and now i am running 3.4ghz with .25v less than before. Also it updated the backup bios with F4a...
Oh, and i can't set the nb freq higher than x9 :s
Hmm... I have the same OC now, ACC +4 per core and I have cold booted few times with no issues, POST:ing time @ cold boot seems to be faster. Played a three-four last missions of COD 5 with no issues. And now I don't need AOD to set HT Link higher. But knowing this mobo... I bet tomorrow I'll have a ton of problems. I reverted to AOD 2.1.4 when I updated Catalyst drivers, and the PCIe clock problem is the same. It bounced to 150 Mhz when I tried to set it to 108. I will try to set it manually from bios to 100 and see what happens. Hopefully they'll come up with official F4.
Yes the F4a only has NB multiplier up to 9x now which is a shame but auto setting sets 10x which is ok with the high bus speed im using. It could be a problem for people using stock Bus speed though.
I was having problems with my soundcard at higher overclocks so I hope the reported sound card fix might help me but I havn't tried overclocking more yet.
would there be any bios recommended for brisbane x2 ocing?
or does it not matter
I think F2 would be better for you. The F3 and F4 series seem to favour Phenom 2 and many have reported reduced overclocking results on older CPU's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newblar
thanks for the responseQuote:
- F2
-This BIOS works best when overclocking a Phenom I
-HT Link cannot be increased from bios. AOD can do that.
i may try it, but i really want to keep my HT link < 1050
can anyone confirm HT LINK as not working on F2 bios?
edit: well the increasing/decreasing HT LINK for athlon X2 (brisbane) does work perfectly fine
i havent really seen any ocing differences between F2 and F3 so far, but i need more time to see if i can get any higher than my 3.315ghz wall on this 5200+
another edit: finally got my 2x2gb gskill kit to run beyond ddr2-800 speeds. any other bios except F2 would never let me boot with speeds > ddr2-830
running loose at DDR2-900 and i like it.. needs more time for proper tweaking though. thanks sideeffect
I am happy with this new F4a. Haven't had problems at cold boot with ACC enabled and it hasn't really reduced my OC.
My settings now:
CPU 3.2GHz
NB 2.4GHz
HT Link 2.2GHz
RAM 1066MHz
I have been using CPU @ 3.3 with F2, but that is so close to the edge that I use 3.2 for now. F4a can hinder OC a little bit, but it is very little. Should do some more testing.
All in all, I suggest you to try this bios. But keep an eye on the PCI-e speed.
Would you mind posting your specific overclock settings changed from default? I haven't had a chance to make a serious effort since I use my machine for work, it has to be stable, and stress testing takes time. But I have hardware matching yours and if I can get a general idea of what settings to jump to it could save me some time.
F4v has been released Link
Looks like just a new processor support update.
I dont have time to try it until saturday because I have exams :(
F5 is out and I JUST got a 720BE today! With F4 seemed to hit 3.6GHz with a Zalman 9500 (temps stayed mid 40's) but the more I messed around with settings, the more often it started crashing... So staying with 3.5GHz for now. Maye I should try raising tyhe FSB instead of multiplier? Well, trying F5 now, so we will see!
I was running my 920 at 3.5Ghz 24/7 also but I had to back off when I changed to Windows 7 recently to 3.45Ghz as it seems to bring up some instability which I think is coming from my soundcard drivers.
I get BSOD's from my Audigy 2 at high FSB even when the CPU and ram is stable at those speeds.
I will test out the new bios later thanks for the post.
F5 solved the problem where my system freezed after resuming from S3, it has been an issue with all releases.
Well, been away fro mthe computer a lot recently so my experience so far is that F5 POSTS "WAY" faster than previous versions for my particular setup... Running 15x240 for 36.GHz, AOD stability tests crashes after 15 seconds but P95 goes a full 24 hrs. Hmmm... Running a fresh install of Win 7 x64 build 7229... I need to gets some real world apps on it and see how stable it really is.
So an update and call to other users of this board overclocking the X3 720BE... So far my best luck is at 16.5x X 220HTT for 3.63GHz stable running AOD stability test now too.
Any other thoughts on voltages and max temps to aim for? Right now I am running 1.45v on good air cooling, very max temps around 50c...
What about HTT clock? Seems my board doesn't like to do above 2200HTL. I am able to run my RAM at DDR2 880@4-4-4-12 , 2.2v using 4 sticks, 2 kits different brands: One OCZ and one G.Skill, with very similar ratings for voltage (2.0-2.1) and timings (4-4-4-12, 4-4-4-15) so all is good at 2.2v I think...
What about motherboard and chipset voltages, anyone recommend max's to shoot for and if there is any benefit like better HTT speeds stable?
TIA
Did someone try the new F6 bios?
EDIT:
Descripton: 1. Update CPU ID (Support AGESA 3.5.3.1 code / AM3 C3 CPU)
just sold my 9950 and grabbed a 550beQuote:
Originally Posted by diekul
yes.. i tried F6.... wouldnt unlock 550be for me so i went back to F5 which unlocked with no problem ... other than that .. i dont know what else is new abt F6
C3 as in revision C3? does that mean its coming very soon ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by diekul
all im seeing on my regor cpu is bios correctly showing cpu-nb volts...
edit:
im not getting any better clocks with F6 than F5 on this 240x2
hopefully some other people get better results
Nope, no better results here.
And yes i think that it supports the C3 revision now.:yepp:
I installed F6 yesterday. it does unlock my 810's cache to larger size just like before. i did not notice any changes.
What? Did you flash it on a 790GP UD4H?Quote:
Originally Posted by ty42
Do they support the same bios?
BTW i flashed it also but no changes.
ah, good catch. I did use "UD4". i thouht difference between UD and US is not much, i think.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ctID=2887,3003
I haven't been updating the first post after my DS4H fried its PWM section... I RMA'd it and while it was EOL'd by the importer, I got UD4H for replace. :up:
What I've heard about F6, there has not been very good comments about it.
can someone tell me how to update the backup bios? my main bios is F5 and my backup is still F1, im worried that if the backup kicks in when things go wrong that it wont boot or something since my Phenom 965 is only supported from F5 onwards, i haven't found an option to do this in Qflash but i remember most Gigabyte boards ive had in the past allows me to do this (flash backup bios from the main bios so both are up to date)
It automatically updated the backup BIOS for me after I installed F6 on the first post. It is the first time I have seen it do this though. I don't know how to manually force it to backup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredstar
I really don't like the F6 BIOS it causes instant shutdowns when changing from 800 to 1066 RAM divider and saving settings. When changing from 800 - 1066 the first time the motherboard powered off but started again no problem and had retained the settings when I manually powered it back on.
Changing back from 1066 to 800 has also shutdown the motherboard on save and it won't restart now. The motherboard is acting dead and a CMOS clear isn't helping so I have removed the CMOS battery for now. This isn't a RAM problem as the RAM is stable at 800 or 1066 no problem on all the other BIOS versions and this version when it will boot :).
I am using an AMD 965 c3 CPU which might be the cause of the behavour as its not officially supported in the F6 BIOS but other c3 CPU's are. It did detect the CPUID properly though.
Edit - Replacing the motherboard battery fixed the problem. Maybe some conflicts appeared after the flash.
Does any one have tried the F7B bios ?
yea u get a few more options like setting it to 8-bit or 16-bit...
otherwise nothing is new for me at least .. no improvement in OC