Water Block for GTX 295

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Originally Posted by Shoggy

Currently we have just tooooo much work here :D

Before I left I took these two pictures:

http://ac.shoggy.de/aquagrafx_gtx295_1.jpg

http://ac.shoggy.de/aquagrafx_gtx295_2.jpg

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Hey Shoggy, thanks for the pics. Can you tell me if there will be any mixed metals in your product or is it completely copper/delrin?

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Originally Posted by [Koolance] Dean

Just as an FYI, the Koolance blocks should be available on the website this weekend. Also watch your favorite resellers if we are out of stock ;)

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Same question before I consider a KL block. Will your 295 block contain any mixed metals? What's the price? And do you have any performance info?

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Heh, preorder, without even a real picture :P
I don't kow how is with such direct advertising here in this forum... Admins?

OK now to real pictures... And the thing that newbies will probably like the most... Stand-offs.

PS: The picture of the contact is not the real contact that block will achieve when mounted with stand-offs. It is only for informational purpose.

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any price on these yet

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Originally Posted by ranker

Hey Shoggy, thanks for the pics. Can you tell me if there will be any mixed metals in your product or is it completely copper/delrin?

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Only copper and delrin. All other parts (the stainless steel plate for example) do not have any contact to the water.

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Originally Posted by Shoggy

Only copper and delrin. All other parts (the stainless steel plate for example) do not have any contact to the water.

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Your block does like very sexy as well. Damn, we have some many great options! If only we had this many acceptable choices during the presidential elections in teh US and A. :ROTF: I say Fugger in 2012!!! Oppainter as VP.

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Originally Posted by ranker

Same question before I consider a KL block. Will your 295 block contain any mixed metals? What's the price? And do you have any performance info?

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Metals are the same as all our new blocks: nickel plated copper. :)

Its an acrylic body like our VID-398GX2, very similar actually. Biggest difference is that the nozzles will exit the block parallel to the board rather than perpendicular such as our 9800GX2 block.

I don't have pictures right now, but its one of my favorite video card blocks :D

Shoggy -- What US Distributers will get this first?

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Originally Posted by [Koolance] Dean

Metals are the same as all our new blocks: nickel plated copper. :)

Its an acrylic body like our VID-398GX2, very similar actually. Biggest difference is that the nozzles will exit the block parallel to the board rather than perpendicular such as our 9800GX2 block.

I don't have pictures right now, but its one of my favorite video card blocks :D

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I love the look of ur GX2 blocks! nickle + clear center = big sexy time explosion!

Shoggy, I really am liking the design of Aqua Computer's 295 block. It really looks nice and very flexible. I wonder if the stock casing can still be put on afterward. hmmmm

@dorian: I think Sidewinder Computers will have them first.

@BlueAqua: nice idea but that won't work.

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Originally Posted by Shoggy

@dorian: I think Sidewinder Computers will have them first.

@BlueAqua: nice idea but that won't work.

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What's the ETA to Sidewinders and has it been sent out to Gary yet?

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Originally Posted by [Koolance] Dean

Metals are the same as all our new blocks: nickel plated copper. :)

Its an acrylic body like our VID-398GX2, very similar actually. Biggest difference is that the nozzles will exit the block parallel to the board rather than perpendicular such as our 9800GX2 block.

I don't have pictures right now, but its one of my favorite video card blocks :D

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Good to hear in regards to completely dropping Alu from all of your new blocks.

When will this be available and to which retailers? And what's the price for the block?

Which inputs are these blocks going to have the three plugs on the side or the usually sli plugs?

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

why would you replace your two 280's that outperform a 295? quad SLI is hella broke....

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edit'd because it was un called for

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

Wow,

Now that compels me to replace the 280's I have on the main rig. That's all I've been waiting on myself, the right blocks for the 295's. Anyone want a couple of cherry used 280's with FC blocks installed let me know. They are two sweet cards:D

andyc

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I hate you. I JUST dropped coin on a new Zotac 280. Like last night. :brick:

Darn you, mcoffey, darn you to heck. :D

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Originally Posted by dengyong

The answer is clear, if you want the gtx295 to be the irrefutable best card in the world, just give one to snipe.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

God, I don't know which to choose!!!!!! I just got my gtx 295's and While I really like the design on your block shoggy, I just got rid of my EK 9800gx2 blocks and I liked how they performed! Plus on my x58 board the Swiftech SLI fitting worked perfect with the cards right next to each other. The way the fittings connect to yours it wouldn't let me do this, but eddys blocks look like I can do the same thing!! By the way Eddy, your 9800GX2 blocks rocked!! Keep up the good work! :D Although, Dean, your blocks would be mighty sexy if the fittings were vertical!

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Originally Posted by BringerOdeath

God, I don't know which to choose!!!!!!

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http://ac.shoggy.de/hypnose.gif

:D

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Originally Posted by Circaflex

why do you constantly have to troll nvidia 295 threads? :rolleyes:

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WOW is there a problem with saying quad sli is broken? because quad CF is too.... I was just saying before that the 2 280s are better generally than 2 295's, but then I was reminded andy is using them for crunching then obviously 2 295s are better.

why do you constantly say i'm trolling? is it because you think that quad SLI isn't broken?

Hey guys,

Take a look here:
http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk/nvidia-gpu-blocks-280-c.asp

They look very tasty!

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

WOW is there a problem with saying quad sli is broken? because quad CF is too.... I was just saying before that the 2 280s are better generally than 2 295's, but then I was reminded andy is using them for crunching then obviously 2 295s are better.

why do you constantly say i'm trolling? is it because you think that quad SLI isn't broken?

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edit'd because ive become an nvidiot :(

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Originally Posted by Circaflex

because in every 295 thread you have to put some negative input in, we know your not a fan of the 295 but how about you do us a favor and just stay out of any thread with a title gtc 295, i can go on and find countless other threads.

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well I was originally just trying to give a word of friendly advice to a fellow member.... 2 gtx 280's does outperform a 295..... I didn't even say a nvidia is worse than ati or anything

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

well I was originally just trying to give a word of friendly advice to a fellow member.... 2 gtx 280's does outperform a 295..... I didn't even say a nvidia is worse than ati or anything

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I will agree with you on that one.... you didnt have any Nvidia bashing it that post. so we can get this thread back on track with the WATER BLOCK for the GTX295

I wonder if the Evga Back plate/cover will fit with the waterblock on, it should

Why are people, and admins no less, taking this far off topic?
I thought this thread was about waterblocks for the 295?

Anyways, looking forward to Eddy's block.
EK is, imho, by far the most attractive waterblocks.

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Originally Posted by Durkadurka

Why are people, and admins no less, taking this far off topic?
I thought this thread was about waterblocks for the 295?

Anyways, looking forward to Eddy's block.
EK is, imho, by far the most attractive waterblocks.

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more attractive than Koolance? RLY?

have to admit I like the Koolance Nickle and acrylic middle thats just sexy..

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Originally Posted by Demthios

have to admit I like the Koolance Nickle and acrylic middle thats just sexy..

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I'd say without seeing the DD offering yet, without question the Koolance is indeed as you say the sexiest yet...

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...-nx295t_p0.jpg

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Originally Posted by funk32

I wonder if the Evga Back plate/cover will fit with the waterblock on, it should

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IMO why not, the WB is between the PCB's not outside them, right?

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Originally Posted by R0bert

IMO why not, the WB is between the PCB's not outside them, right?

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ya wasnt thinkin about that LOL... it was a slow morning when i posted haha

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

more attractive than Koolance? RLY?

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Depends on how you define attractive then I guess. For looks alone I agree, but I have seen no evidence that it also performs as good as it looks.

I am not that concerned with form over function and would be happy enough with great performance, I currently have two EK blocks and they are stellar performers. I have never used Koolance so I can not really comment but they seem to be popular.:D

Eddy, was just curious if you are going to make a plexi version of this block?, with 5mm holes for leds. Just like the GX2 :up:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1232553723

Me wants nickel-plating! :D

Me likes bunch of shiny metal very much indeed! :D

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Me wants nickel-plating! :D

Me likes bunch of shiny metal very much indeed! :D

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if its like the old gx2 blocks, you can use your gpu fan header to plug in LED's in that acrylic to light it up too.

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

if its like the old gx2 blocks, you can use your gpu fan header to plug in LED's in that acrylic to light it up too.

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Naekuh, Thanks for the tip, lets just hope Eddy makes a plexi version :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Durkadurka

Why are people, and admins no less, taking this far off topic?

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What admins?

Hi!

There will be 4 options of the block.
Plexi
Acetal
Plexi + Nickel
Acetal + Nickel

Also, for plexi versions, there will be two 5mm holes for leds.

Eddy Thanks, I'll take plexi + nickel, how nice will this look with blue leds shinning off the nickel and plexi, I think i just !@#$% all over myself :eek:

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Hi!

There will be 4 options of the block.
Plexi
Acetal
Plexi + Nickel
Acetal + Nickel

Also, for plexi versions, there will be two 5mm holes for leds.

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That is what I wanted to hear, the nickel finish is very nice.:up:

That will make it a hard choice now that Eddy is gonna do a plexi nickle set.

This one should be considered too!
http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_...oducts_id=2211

Wow, Eddy, You will have a nickel, plexi and a nickel, acetel! Well, since your blocks were awesome on my 9800gx2's I have to wait to see your nickel blocks, but its between you and koolance now!!:D

Is it possible to fit the videocard's housing outside the block this time too? :)

whatever ends up being the cheapest way to get my 295 under water is what I will get...

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Originally Posted by Durkadurka

Depends on how you define attractive then I guess. For looks alone I agree, but I have seen no evidence that it also performs as good as it looks.

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you have no evidence on how ANY of the block perform. :shrug:


Kudos to Eddy for adding some luxurious bling! Nickle + acrylic center = sexy

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Originally Posted by jasonelmore

since hell froze over and pigs started flying

Snipe When UPS brings mine Tuesday we'll have my card against yours on all the games we both have. 1650x1280 and 1920x1080 8XAA in any game you want

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You'd want to pick something else than 8xAA... I'll explain why.

nVIDIA's GT200 and GT200b as well as the previous G80/G92 cards come equipped with what seems (at first glance) like being an Impressive set of TMUs. The kick is that when performing Anisotropic Filtering or Floating Points Texturing (such as HDR) your TMUs are halved (so 80 TMUs in the GTX 280 turns to 40).

The same can be said with the RBE (Render Back End or ROPs). The GT200 and GT200b come with far more ROPs than ATi's RV770 BUT when doing 8xAA (REAL 8xAA not the fake CSAA which only uses 4 samples and which Crysis and many games default on nVIDIA hardware therefore creating an apples and oranges scenario when comparing to ATi which does REAL 8xAA you can verify this by opening up the Crysis config file and right there you'll see that the nVIDIA 8xAA setting takes 4 samples and is called CSAA whereas ATi settings detect at 8 samples for full RGMS AA) the GT200 and GT200b lose HORRIBLY. Try it yourself. Set your nVIDIA AA in the control panel to 8x and set it to override application settings... watch the slide show.. ATi users now you try it and watch the nice fluid pixels.

I used to be a big time nVIDIA supporter until I uncovered that most of their performance comes from driver tricks rather than real hardware goodness. Too bad for ATi though, their drivers just aren't up to par.

Now add what sniipe was talking about (due to the frame buffer size being 1GB vs. 896MB) high res gaming is just better on 4870 X2 and is about to get even sweeter with the Catalyst 9.1 drivers.

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...800 DDR3 RAM | Visiontek Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB Graphics Card | nVID...

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ATI fanboy detected!

jkjk

I am still in the process of whether or not go to with ATi. I use to have a 4870 512mb and the drives are nightmares. Also looking at games right now, Crysis is the only game that matters on my 1920x1200 resolution. If ATi drivers can get as good as Nv's I am all over the RV770s.

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Is it possible to fit the videocard's housing outside the block this time too? :)

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Anyone?

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Originally Posted by ElMoIsEviL

You'd want to pick something else than 8xAA... I'll explain why.

nVIDIA's GT200 and GT200b as well as the previous G80/G92 cards come equipped with what seems (at first glance) like being an Impressive set of TMUs. The kick is that when performing Anisotropic Filtering or Floating Points Texturing (such as HDR) your TMUs are halved (so 80 TMUs in the GTX 280 turns to 40).

The same can be said with the RBE (Render Back End or ROPs). The GT200 and GT200b come with far more ROPs than ATi's RV770 BUT when doing 8xAA (REAL 8xAA not the fake CSAA which only uses 4 samples and which Crysis and many games default on nVIDIA hardware therefore creating an apples and oranges scenario when comparing to ATi which does REAL 8xAA you can verify this by opening up the Crysis config file and right there you'll see that the nVIDIA 8xAA setting takes 4 samples and is called CSAA whereas ATi settings detect at 8 samples for full RGMS AA) the GT200 and GT200b lose HORRIBLY. Try it yourself. Set your nVIDIA AA in the control panel to 8x and set it to override application settings... watch the slide show.. ATi users now you try it and watch the nice fluid pixels.

I used to be a big time nVIDIA supporter until I uncovered that most of their performance comes from driver tricks rather than real hardware goodness. Too bad for ATi though, their drivers just aren't up to par.

Now add what sniipe was talking about (due to the frame buffer size being 1GB vs. 896MB) high res gaming is just better on 4870 X2 and is about to get even sweeter with the Catalyst 9.1 drivers.

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How is this even remotely relevant for a discussion about waterblocks for the 295 ?

EK's GTX295 blocks are going to be availble after 2nd February

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=354{2}6

man, I was spoiled by how cheap my MCW60 is...

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Originally Posted by Budwise

man, I was spoiled by how cheap my MCW60 is...

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6th street is calling you . . .

Danger Den waterblock.
Pics should speak for themselves.
http://dangerden.smugmug.com/gallery...62996723_3s9Gv
Pretty in a less industrial way to the others. I sort of like the little curve near the fan holes.

The Koolance Block still looks the best so far! I was going to order 2 today, but they are out of stock now....:(

How long do you think it will be before we start seeing a comparison between these blocks? Its interesting to see that people are already making their choices on the looks alone, and not the performance.

Having said that, does anybody know if/when/where the koolance blocks will be avaliable in the UK? :P

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Originally Posted by Henry8601

How long do you think it will be before we start seeing a comparison between these blocks? Its interesting to see that people are already making their choices on the looks alone, and not the performance.

Having said that, does anybody know if/when/where the koolance blocks will be avaliable in the UK? :P

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there probably wont be a performance comparison, gpus are very easy to cool and all the manufacturers of FC blocks have it down to a system to create a good performing block.

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Originally Posted by exe163

ATI fanboy detected!

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You talking about me?

Guilty as charged:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_1258.jpg

:wasntme:

Can i honestly ask how many of you guys intend to quad gpu? and if you do, what psu's your running.

I intend to buy one of those cards. =)

I'm running a MIST 1000w. Pretty good powersupply. Got a lot of good credits. :)

What is this angle with you upper card?!?!:eek:

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

You talking about me?
Can i honestly ask how many of you guys intend to quad gpu? and if you do, what psu's your running.

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Ultra X3 1600w plugged into a dedicated high output circuit to get all 1600w :D. Rawr...

After some experiments with that card we also added two laser engraved Delrin backplates for a better cooling performance in the voltage regulator area:

http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Shoggy

After some experiments with that card we also added two laser engraved Delrin backplates for a better cooling performance in the voltage regulator area:

http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_4.jpg

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Looks great Shoggy, but I'd like to see yours and DD block offered in clear acrylic ala the Koolance block for LED lighting, any chance of this?

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Originally Posted by Governator

any chance of this?

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Not really...

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Originally Posted by Shoggy

Not really...

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Any particular reason why if you don't mind me asking?

shoggy

more pics please..internals if possible

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Originally Posted by Governator

Any particular reason why if you don't mind me asking?

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We always paid attention to the design and a plexiglas middle part would be miles away from out regular style. Let's call it a corporate identity problem :D

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Originally Posted by Hondacity

shoggy

more pics please..internals if possible

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http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_1.jpg

http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_2.jpg

http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_3.jpg

http://forum.aquacomputer.de/images-...x_gtx295_5.jpg

That's all. I do not have any internal pictures yet, but maybe tomorrow or the next week.

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Originally Posted by spoof

What is this angle with you upper card?!?!:eek:

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it was the angle my pictures too it in. :rofl:

Shoggy: Are there any stand-offs included in the package? :)

Four pieces for the end of the card where the voltage regulators are placed. You can see them in the first picture of my last post.

Yes when you mention it... :p:

Should have seen them. :p:

Where should I be able to order your block? Directly from your homepage? :)

Anyone know when to expect the ek 295 block stateside? I've already oredered a few international parts for my next build and wanna avoid any more unnecessary shipping costs.

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Where should I be able to order your block? Directly from your homepage? :)

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Sidewinder Computers or directly in our webshop.

Our third shipment should be in Monday... I'm excited about this launch :)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...x_gtx295_5.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4.../Untitledh.png

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

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Originally Posted by [Koolance] Dean

Our third shipment should be in Monday... I'm excited about this launch :)

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Dean have you guys done any testing with a back plates for the vreg's? like aqua blocks... i know my evga came with one too, I have the koolance block waiting for me at UPS but they arnt open on the weekend so i cant install it yet. i also have a evga back plate coming to see if it will fit with the water block installed,

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Originally Posted by pwolfe

Anyone know when to expect the ek 295 block stateside? I've already ordered a few international parts for my next build and wanna avoid any more unnecessary shipping costs.

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First two will be Performance PC's and Frozen CPU. They should get them start of the week.

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

First two will be Performance PC's and Frozen CPU. They should get them start of the week.

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They are up on the PPC website now ... just ordered my 285s :cool:

Thank you, Mr. EK !

I was just wondering about something, does the EK GTX 295 block come with the 5mm Leds included? :)

lol. Figures. few days after I order one straight from slovenia, ppc's has it =)

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

I was just wondering about something, does the EK GTX 295 block come with the 5mm Leds included? :)

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Anyone? :)

Pretty sure it doesn't. It clearly says prepared for leds...

You can get dual headed 5mm LEDs ... this pic shows the Bitspower and the Feser versions. Feser is in the center, shorter cable length than the BPs.


http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/4...95_6JMKy-M.jpg

n00bs. Make your own. I just bought a bunch of uber kewl color-changing LEDS. They need NO controller as they just change from one color to another and blink here and there. Just need to solder a resistor inline with each one and hook to teh 5 volt line on the PSU.

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

I was just wondering about something, does the EK GTX 295 block come with the 5mm Leds included? :)

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I sure hope not !

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Originally Posted by quattro_

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...x_gtx295_5.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4.../Untitledh.png

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

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Looks great, whats the idea of the 3rd g1/4'' hole???

The aqua computer one looks very nice, defiantly what I had expected from them. One thing I could see going with there style is some sort of plate to fill the hole where the fan was. This could also say made in Germany or the cards model number ect. I just think it might accent the look more :cool:

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Originally Posted by swale

Looks great, whats the idea of the 3rd g1/4'' hole???

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You can choose if the water should run parallel or one after another through the blocks.

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Originally Posted by funk32

Dean have you guys done any testing with a back plates for the vreg's? like aqua blocks... i know my evga came with one too, I have the koolance block waiting for me at UPS but they arnt open on the weekend so i cant install it yet. i also have a evga back plate coming to see if it will fit with the water block installed,

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anything?

Why the f*ck did PPC raise on the EK GTX 295 blocks?

Suppose they're startin to run a little bit short on them, but I dunno.

With stuff for 800 bucks to order, I cant really afford that "dramatic" changes in the price range for the blocks.
Hope the prices wil drop soon. :(

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Originally Posted by LockBreaker

Why the f*ck did PPC raise on the EK GTX 295 blocks?

Suppose they're startin to run a little bit short on them, but I dunno.

With stuff for 800 bucks to order, I cant really afford that "dramatic" changes in the price range for the blocks.
Hope the prices wil drop soon. :(

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Because they set wrong pricing in the start. I don't think they will drop the prices.

Which is the best option for a noob to WC? I was thinking Koolance is probably the most user-friendly.

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Because they set wrong pricing in the start. I don't think they will drop the prices.

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Those who bought the blocks in the beginning, are some very, very lucky bastards. :p:

Also, when it comes to Nozzles; which is best?

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Originally Posted by DdotRoq

Also, when it comes to Nozzles; which is best?

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=217398

this where ull find some info on fittings. BP (bit power) are the best in my opinion.

here is my work in progress

My results with the Koolance block for GTX 295:

Overclock: GPU 752MHz, Shaders 1521Mhz, Memory 1300MHz
Temps: 40C Idle, 48C at load 4 hours of Furmark, no artifacts.
Voltage: Bump to 1113mV using Evga voltage tuner for GPU stability. I don't think shaders works well with voltage bumps.
I haven't done any benches. This is with 120.3 and 160.1 rads, and an E8400 in the loop.