Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB, Single 500GB Platter

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02-19-2009, 09:55 PM
onethreehill

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 32MB ST31000528AS tested
http://www.pcdvd.com.tw/printthread.php?t=840158
http://translate.google.com.sg/trans...G%26as_qdr%3Dd
02-20-2009, 12:44 AM
onethreehill

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 32MB ST31000528AS in Japan
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba...1000528as.html
02-21-2009, 01:42 AM
onethreehill

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB Review
CDRinfo
02-21-2009, 03:27 AM
jobol

http://publish.it168.com/2009/0106/images/1303436.JPG
http://publish.it168.com/2008/0328/images/949754.jpg
http://publish.it168.com/2009/0106/images/1303409.JPG

What bugs me about this bencharmk, is that the guy handicaped his 7200.11 because he copied the file from one partition (probably non empty) to his main system partition (C) that has the OS and probably a load of stuff, thus giving the 7200.11 a disadvantage because the file will NOT be copied to head of partition, which is faster.

On the 7200.12, he copied one file from one virgin partition to another, thus having a great read/write performance.

So this benchmark is in no way indicative of real world results unless all variables are known. I think there should be now way the 7200.12 is x2 faster than the 7200.11 under similar real world test conditions.

On another note,

I was wondering....Should I wait for the 1TB 7200.12 or go with a Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.B 1TB (available right now)?
02-22-2009, 02:50 AM
moreempty

would you guys go for a 7200.12 500gb or a WD black 500Gb as a system disc? might go raid0 aswell?

what to do!?
02-22-2009, 03:31 AM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by jobol

On another note,

I was wondering....Should I wait for the 1TB 7200.12 or go with a Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.B 1TB (available right now)?

I would wait for the 7200.12 1TB
2 platters vs 3 platters
Higher areal density
02-22-2009, 08:31 AM
EniGmA1987

The 500GB 7200.12 dribe is $60 with free shipping at newegg right now. That is the "18" version though, which is slightly louder but gets just a tad bit more performance.
02-22-2009, 11:17 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by moreempty

would you guys go for a 7200.12 500gb or a WD black 500Gb as a system disc? might go raid0 aswell?

what to do!?

Good? :D
RAID0 2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12, 500 GB, ST3500418AS

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3199/...eadtestth1.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?ima...eadtestwo0.jpg
Source: Pcsilenzioso.it-forum
02-23-2009, 03:52 AM
Mr.Bean

only 125MB/seg ? :eek: :down: , where are the 160MB/seg posted on the website of Seagate ? :shakes:

7200.11 1,5TB use 4 platters of 375GB density 7.2000 rpm = 120MB/seg.

7200.12 500GB use 1 platter of 500GB, 33% more density, at same 7.2000 rpm, ok ? this is 120 + 33% = 160 MB/seg.

ST3500410AS / 418AS use really 1 platter of 500GB ? :para: or, really spin at 7200 rpm ? :para: in case of positive this 2 questions, why they only have 125 ? :shrug:

:owned:
02-23-2009, 04:04 AM
sabe

11.3ms access times? Does RAID0 help access times that much?
02-23-2009, 04:19 AM
Mr.Bean

access time is not dependent of raid, is a limit of individual drive.

4ms initially, 25ms in the end, average 11ms

only if you limit the total capacity of single drive or raid array increase the performance of average access time, because you leaning more to the faster zone
02-23-2009, 06:04 AM
mstp2009

Review is in progress on the 1TB. We've a ton of stuff come in for review and are backlogged.
02-23-2009, 07:13 AM
sabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Bean

access time is not dependent of raid, is a limit of individual drive.

4ms initially, 25ms in the end, average 11ms

only if you limit the total capacity of single drive or raid array increase the performance of average access time, because you leaning more to the faster zone

I just noticed the last bench posted is a 338gb RAID0, no wonder the access times are low :/ That's kinda misleading isn't it.
02-24-2009, 06:05 AM
sabe

So I decided to get another one, and 'cheat' with a small RAID0 as well. My OS is actually sitting on the array, so it might be a little poorer than it should be :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/...cacce6.jpg?v=0
02-24-2009, 07:08 AM
Mr.Bean

CPU Usage -1%

:wierd:
02-24-2009, 07:14 AM
sabe

Clearly I managed to harness my hard drive's processor :D
02-24-2009, 07:20 AM
Mr.Bean

my 4x 500GB 7200.10 RAID0 Slice 32GB

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6...4xraid0pr1.png

i win ;)
02-24-2009, 08:14 AM
Baron_Davis

How come 2 of them get 200 and 4 get 300?
02-24-2009, 08:23 AM
sabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron_Davis

How come 2 of them get 200 and 4 get 300?

Perhaps its the ICH10R limiting it... :)
02-24-2009, 02:57 PM
mrcape

No Raid0 SSD wins. These are storage drives lol.
02-25-2009, 12:12 AM
Mr.Bean

LOL xD

see above -> 4x 500GB 7200.10 !!

4x 80MB/s = 320 MB/s
02-27-2009, 11:27 PM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by pa9797

I m using my 1.5TB HDD results as a base reference:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...31500341AS.png

The 7200.12 @ RAID 0

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b..._Raid_0_-2.png

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...1Feb272125.gif

Single 7200.12

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...T3500410AS.png

Source: Hardwarezone Forum
02-27-2009, 11:32 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Holy crap, access time on the 7200.12 is ridiculously slow! Seems like that would kill off much of the benefit of increased data rate. My 80GB 7200.1 not .10 manages a better access time then that!
02-28-2009, 03:13 AM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniGmA1987

The 500GB 7200.12 dribe is $60 with free shipping at newegg right now. That is the "18" version though, which is slightly louder but gets just a tad bit more performance.

The "10" version is $60 with free shipping now
02-28-2009, 04:42 AM
hollo

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

Holy crap, access time on the 7200.12 is ridiculously slow! Seems like that would kill off much of the benefit of increased data rate. My 80GB 7200.1 not .10 manages a better access time then that!

the first 10% of the drive is nice, <10ms & >100MB/s :D
02-28-2009, 06:17 AM
onethreehill

Quote:

Originally Posted by pa9797

Since I have rave reviews for the 7200.12 , I thought I need to satisfy myself that the WD Black is as good so I went to get one and try.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC04309.jpg

At SRP of $149, this baby is expensive in term of per Gb. This works out to be $0,23 per GB vs Seagate 7200.12 is $0.18 per GB.

Do note however in terms of warranty this baby has full 5 years from WD. Seagate only offer 3 years for the 7200.12

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC04313.jpg

As compared to the 7200.12, the Black is fat:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC04318.jpg

In this department 7200.12 is slimmer. This is due to the single platter Vs I think 2 for the WD.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC04319.jpg

Temperature this baby is much hotter. I recorded an average of 40d vs 7200.12's 30d

Noise.... Haiz , sad to say this baby is not quiet when seek. However to be fair the noise is muted. I still prefer to 7200.12's Cool and Quiet.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...401AALS--1.png

In terms of access speed. This baby is fast. Bootup , surfing is much faster than 7200.12

However in term of burst speed and transfer rate 7200.12 is well ahead:

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...T3500410AS.png

Hardwarezone Forum
03-01-2009, 09:34 AM
hollo

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Source: Hardwarezone Forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreehill

Hardwarezone Forum

he mentions a few times that the 7200.12 are nice and quiet, then someone says..

Quote:

Originally Posted by pa9797

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadLocke

probably trade off between silence and seek speed... my guess is AAM in operation.. :D

it could be but is still fast visibly

might be AAM making it so nice and quiet + wrecking the seek times
03-01-2009, 09:19 PM
onethreehill

Seagate's Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 32MB Hard Drive Review

Quote:

One of the most remarkable things about the storage industry is the fact that, although today's hard drives are much faster than those from yesteryear, they're still spinning at the same spindle speeds. 7,200 RPM has been the standard for desktop drives for a very long time now, supplanted only occasionally by enthusiast-oriented Raptors spinning their platters at 10,000 RPM. The enterprise world has managed to crank spindles up to 15,000 RPM, but that step up the rotational speed ladder happened more than nine years ago. Drives haven't spun their platters any faster since.

Rather than relying on higher spindle speeds to sustain a steady diet of incremental performance improvements, hard drive makers have instead increased the precision and speed with which drives can flow data back and forth to their spinning media. The amount of data stored on those spinning platters has grown, as well, and at an exponential rate. In just the last two years, we've seen platter capacities jump from 200GB to 250, 333, 375, and now 500GB.

Source: Techreport
03-02-2009, 02:16 AM
sabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollo

he mentions a few times that the 7200.12 are nice and quiet, then someone says..might be AAM making it so nice and quiet + wrecking the seek times

I tried adjusting the AAM using HD Tune Pro 3.5, but I cannot adjust the settings on the 7200.12, they jump straight back to the lowest acoustics mode.
03-02-2009, 03:06 AM
hollo

yea, i saw that in the techreport review

Quote:

We've also learned that Seagate has optimized the 7200.12's seek mechanism to lower acoustics. This so-called "quiet" seek mode is set at the factory and can't be adjusted by end users, and it has some significant performance implications that will become clear on the following pages.

sad for people who want to make high performance RAID arrays out of them, the western digital single-platter 320GB drive had the same "problem" - it was optimised for low power consumption and volume. maybe samsung will make a high performance 500GB single-platter drive for us, like the HD322HJ
03-15-2009, 07:02 PM
mstp2009

As promised, here is our review:
http://www.xcpus.com/GetDoc.aspx?doc=137&page=1

Honestly, for the jump in platter density from 333GB/p to 500GB/p, I was very disappointed not to see this drive perform better. It only edges out the 7200.11, instead of crushing it.
03-16-2009, 03:42 PM
XS Janus

I'm getting one for my NAS server tomorrow.
My 500Gb GreenPower Wd is crumbling under torrent, unzip, file copy tasks...
:D

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