Ms Sidewinder, yes it's from ms, yes it's ugly, but it works great for me.
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Ms Sidewinder, yes it's from ms, yes it's ugly, but it works great for me.
for gaming its the mx518 or the G5 and for gaming and other staff its the Razer DeathAdder.
i got them all :D
Actually I dont use mouses for gaming with driver softs and lots of buttons
I own Sharkoon Rush Laser Mouse for an year and satisfied with my choice
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Logitech G3. Ambidextrous, simple, and quite an accurate little bugger. Big advantage is the fact that it's shaped exactly like the common Logitech USB Optical Mouse that you find oh so often. It's (a good bit) heavier than those optical mice, and the drygrip stuff is pretty darn cool. Simple enough to have an advantage. Other than that, I'd like to try the SteelSeries Ikari 62001SS. That one looks good with the software.
I just bought the G9 I like it more than the deathadder lol. :(
i got a deathadder, G9, G5, SidewinderX6, Lachesis and a copperhead.
I can tell you that they are all awsome in their own ways (apart from the sidewinder which is pure fail)
The deathadder is simple and easy to setup/use and tracks very very well for a comparitivley affordable price.. The razer drivers are very customisable but are quite fiddly
the G9 has some awsome tracking, and is very versatile with its exchangable faceplates and weight system.. drivers are easy to use and very customisable
G5 is a lower spec (but very different shape) G9... Its all about the feel
IMO you cant beat the Lachesis... yes the drivers are a faf but the 4000DPI, 9 buttons and on the fly sensitivity change is pure WIN!
but theyre all awsome little devices
Currently use a DeathAdder, and love it. Had a MX518 before and really liked it as well, but didn't fit my hand the way I wanted it to.
Both are great mice, and haven't found anything else that can touch either one of them.
Looking forward for razer mamba :D
MX518 here, I need my forward and back buttons
I love my G5 so much that I bought 5 backups. I will be using G5s for as long as they are supported by the system I'm running.
i used to love my rx1000 .. until i found the ocz equalizer :up:
I absolutely love the MX 518... I use it both for gaming and general desktop productivity. Hardware-based DPI control > software-based DPI control!
On the fly DPI (hey that rhymed) is a must for gaming mice these days
even the entry level ones have it now
Has anyone used both the G9 and a Steelseries Ikari?
Love both my G5 and Death Adder, but love the G5 just a little bit more.
Im a huge fan of the Lachesis, its 9 customizable buttons are also perfectly placed
razer salmosa, its really cheap, and I never use the thumb buttons anyway :)
G7 here, as well as MX518, gotta say I love the wireless G7, had it for years still not bored with it :p:
Could lose the 'high' wheel though, I prefer the deeper lying scrollwheel of the MX518, and the G7 'misses' one side button and I don't care for a tilting scrollwheel either... oh well :rolleyes:
I'd like a 2009 edition of the G7 without tiltwheel, and so I mean a scrollwheel like the MX518, and a second side button, and with a little beefier batteries (8 hours then empty come on :down:)
I notice no lag with the G7, I was skeptical at first (late 2005) but was surprised by its awesome performance :up:
I really loved my G7 way back when but the receiver would go bad after 4-6 months of use. It wouldn't fail but would cut in and out and be very inaccurate. Logitech replaced it for me twice then the warranty ran out on it and it died again.
I just replaced my MS Sidewinder with a Steelseries Ikari and I'm in love! What an upgrade.
Anyone else using a Roccat Kone?
Has anyone used the Warcraft Mouse from Steelseries? Are you able to use all the features on other games as well?
Anyone using Creative Fatal1ty? I have the newer version, bought it before christmas... did cost me 30€. Did find that it is actually made by TerraTec.
I got the MX518, G5, G7, G9 and Razer Diamondback. In my experience, from preference, comfort and functionality, out of those mentioned I love the G9 :)
Anyway we can go back on a vote?
I voted for the Lachesis a while back and now the middle click button does not work :(. Just dies out of the blue, after a bit of googling it seems this is quite common. Means no grenade throwing in COD, no opening tabs in browsers. You dont know what your missing till you dont have it anymore:(.
So looks like i am going to look for a Logitech mouse next. G5 looks to be winning so thats top of my list so far.
I use one of the side buttons (forward or back) for throwing grenades, much more control than the middle button.
Might be looking for something more comfortable than my DA...it may be part of the cause of my hand problems...
I bought a G5 but wasn't impressed with it and ended up going back to my MX510. If something happens to my 510 I'll probably grab a 518.
I've tried out my friends razer mice and didn't really like the shape.
Guys....has anyone tried that Gigabyte GM-M8000 Ghost? :)
I'd say it looks EVIL :D - and the TweakTown review was extremely positive :up:
If it really performs as good as it looks it's a winner isn't it? :rolleyes:
I must say that after my fiancee spilled tea on my G9 (she has a ban for using my PC now :rolleyes: ) I am very tempted to try it :yepp:
Mx518
Deathadder! I used to use the Microsoft 3.0 and then it finally broke and the deathadder gives me that microsoft comfort.
MX518 is also good. Not sure why the G5 is so popular. I hated that mouse, wasn't comfy and it lagged if I moved too fast.
I just got a Microsoft Sidewinder mouse and it rocks! :up:
I like it more than the Logitech MX-518 that I was using previously. The Sidewinder is faster, more responsive, and has superior accuracy due to it's higher DPI (2000) and laser sensor; compared to the 1600 DPI and optical sensor of the MX-518.
A small LCD display shows you the current DPI setting, a nifty feature, because with my Logitech MX-518 I found that I was constantly pressing down the DPI increase button to make sure I was at the correct DPI setting.
The two metallic side buttons, which protrude and are placed vertically rather than horizontally, is a unique feature of this mouse. I definitely prefer this arrangement, because not only are the buttons more accessible, it's also harder to accidentally hit the wrong one than it was with the Logitech.
It also has up to 35g of extra weights in case you want a heavier mouse, and three sets of mice feet made from different materials to suit your needs.
Now for things I don't like..
The metallic scroll wheel, while being very accurate/responsive, makes a loud clicking noise when you scroll up or down. It isn't much of a big deal, but I found that compared with the scroll wheel on my Logitech, it was WAY more noticeable..
And while the Sidewinder has three side buttons, one of them is absolutely useless. I don't even know why they even bothered with a third side button, which is inconveniently placed nearly an inch in front of the two main side buttons, far out of reach for most people; unless they have a very long thumb..
Also, if you're female or have small hands, you should probably avoid this mouse. While it's more or less the same length as the MX-518, the back end has a wider profile which can make the side buttons harder to access.. My girlfriend used my computer to check her e-mail and one of the first things she noticed was that the mouse was too big for her hands..
Guys with normal or large hands should have no problem though.. :)
All in all, it's definitely a great mouse, the best I've ever used in fact. I can't believe it's not more popular than it is, because it has some useful and unique features you don't find in other gaming mice.
Original post - I'd thought I make a new since its been a while
I've been using the Steelseries Ikari (optical) for a over a month now and I love/hate this thing. The shape and feel are excellent but there are a few issues that annoy me a little to much. For starters the cord is a freaken rope, its over built to the point of fighting back - I'm not sure the kinks will ever come out of this thing. The two thumb buttons are poorly placed - pressing either is fine on it own but toggling between the two is actually painful. It still reads movement nearly 5ft of the ground and no I'm not joking (I'm not one to pick it up though). It has a nice quick switch feature but it is set to 400/800dpi by default - has a 3sec delay between switches at 800/1600 making that nearly useless :shakes:. Needs a driver to set it to 800/1600 so it isn't driver-less. Older games that don't support mouse 3 and 4 thumb buttons need a 3rd party app (x-mouse button control) because the "driver" doesn't support that! The scroll wheel will occasionally miss a click(s) - it goes round it just doesn't register :shakes:. Still just two extra buttons.
The shape though is really much better (and bigger:up:) than either the death adder or the 518. I have a considerably bigger area I can swing this thing as a result and that really makes much better use of the dpi. By contrast I can only move the death adder a small amount but it needs much higher dpi to make those smaller movements as accurate. Its a design choice and the higher dpi is kind of gimmick number there. I would still like to see a bit more than 1600 out of the Ikea though. I play at 1920x1200, and despite the great feel, I can still see the cross hair movement loose that extra fine finises when aiming down range.
Its not bad as I make it out to be though. In fact, I'll probably keep using it for quite a while but I just can't recommend it over the others. Of what I've tired the Mx518 is still the way to go; the Ikea and deathadder could trade 2nd and 3rd depending on hand size and personal preferences.
I bought the G5 2 years ago and havent even looked at new mice since. How is the G9?
I recently broke a friend's mouse while attempting to change an LED in it, so rather than buy a new crappy mouse to replace his crappy mouse, I decided to buy myself a new gaming mouse, and pass down my Logitech MX510 to him. I played with a bunch of other mice that friends had, and I could not stand the feel of the new Sidewinders... the two thumb buttons were flaky, and the shape of the mouse just did not work for me. I tried a couple different Razer mice, including the Copperhead, and the Lachesis, and though nice, they just felt a little too "flat" for my hand. I also disliked the thumb buttons on the Lachesis because they sit right where I grip the mouse, so I was accidentally pressing them if I ever had to lift the mouse up.
I finally settled on the Logitech G9, and have been very happy with it. The interchangable grips are really nice, and I still can't decide which I like better. I REALLY love the feature where you can change the mouse wheel from a free spinning mode back to the ratcheting feel. Web browsing is MUCH better with the free spinning wheel, while games require the ratcheting wheel. Between the MX510 and the G9 I have seen a HUGE difference in how well I can aim in games. Sniping is now MUCH easier, even without adjusting the dpi. It just seems less 'jumpy' so when I move to shoot something, I don't have to correct because I overshot it.
I have also been playing with the weights in the mouse, and haven't seen any significant difference between using the max weight, and the no weights. I am thinking the whole weight thing is more of a gimmick than anything.
Deathadder, but lets be fair....we mostly vote for the mouse we have!
Why would we vote for a mouse we don't have ? If you like a particular mouse, you buy it :D
I bought a G9 from CC, and I honestly think the G7 and G5 is more comfy.
I originally voted for MX518, but right now I kinda like this G5. I don't have any of the issues some people seem to be having with it. If it's skipping or acting wierd, just clean the lens with a cotton swab, and I'm sure some people are just having issues with the terribad drivers. Under Linux, I use evdev for input in all games (I use it directly in games that support it like ezQuake or through X for ones that don't) and all movements are smooth and consistant. I don't have any issues with negative acceleration either, perhaps the people whining about it are being stupid and trying to play Quake3-engined games at something higher than 400dpi and not realizing that Quake3 has negative accel issues when you go above that ._. I'd almost certainly buy an MX510 or MX518 if I needed to get another mouse though, I still prefer them. But still, most of the people who try to badmouth G5 are usually terribads trying to blame their problems on their mouse ("LOL ITS NOT MY FAULT I CANT AIM ITS MY MOUSE LOL IF I HAD AN MX510 AGAIN ID BEAT YOU NPNP LOLOL"), or are just genuinely stupid and don't think of cleaning the lens.
Yup, love my G5. Been using a Razer Copperhead (3G or something?) recently as a replacement for my recently-killed (by me) Death Adder, mainly on Fallout 3 (still totally hooked). I didn't like the Copperhead when I first got it and had it put away for ages. Now I absolutely hate it. Feels so overall tiny, and the side buttons just don't feel right at all. I'm always accidentally hitting the right button and, even tho it doesn't have anything assigned to it, it totally throws me off. Was thinking of just getting another G5 or Death Adder, but I think I'll pick up a G9 for something different. (on sale at NCIX atm).
I vote G5 but I use my MX518 the most because its attached to my primary rig. G9 was built so people with small hands could use it IMO.
All on the list are good gaming mice except the Microsoft Intellimouse. Thats just my opinion and not fact of course.
close call between G5 2007 and Lachesis, but Lachesis it is.
Looking forward to the Mamba though.
G9 here - use it all day, love it :)
The thing that annoyed me most about the G5 is the lack of a "Forward" button on your thumb. They only gave you one instead of two... I went back to the MX510 because I couldn't live with one button there.
I think they released a newer G5 that has a forward button along with the back button.
I have a MX 518. Mouse is fine. Also MX 1000, and a few other cheapo's
the mx 518 has served me well as my main mouse for games. I desire a wireless soon, think I will splurge on the new Razer Mamba
razer chopperhead I have got it and it is really cool
i vote for g5 , its the best for me :)
g9
The thing feels like it was custom made for my hand...
But I am also coming from one of the first wireless mouse that logitech ever released and it held up like a champ until someone (IE not me) dropped it on the floor and then stepped on it...
Razer Deathadder, best mouse I've ever used :)
I voted Deathadder but I'm using a Mamba, same as a Deathadder but with more buttons and cordless possibility, I'm sold to Razer (do not look at the avatar :P )
I also previously voted mx518 but now my deathadder is far and away my favorite gaming mouse ever - very durable, functional and comfortable.
I like my Razer Mamba
Probably not worth AU$180; but then, you only need to buy it once. They don't become obsolete the way a CPU or video card will.
I voted other. Other would be the Logitech G500. I had the G5 and it was awsome and then I got this and it's the G5 on crack!!! Has a higher DPI than the G9 and more buttons for less cash.
I've had a Microsoft Sidewinder X8 for a while now, I'm really happy with it for a bluetooth mouse. I even use it at 4000DPI on my desktop and its brilliant. It's much more comfortable than the original Sidewinder as well, I can use it for hours on end without ever bothering my wrist. It's definitely not suited for smaller hands though.
I have a copperhead and hate it. Terrible thumbbutton placements, but it IS symmetric, 2 button on each side, for all you ambidextrous gamers out there!
I love the MX518, used a wireless MX500 before it, can't stand wireless after trying wired.
deathadder :D
I use a Kensington optical trackball,
call me different but I find it more comfortable to use and it feels nicer to use.
518
I would say the razer mamba is the best gaming mouse out there right now in my opinion. The mouse is a perfect fit for your hands and it looks so sexy. :D
MX518 forever!
I liked my MX518 right up until the led started blinking... in the middle of a game... neighbors still find pieces of it in their yard ha ha.
I love the G5. Its large enough to fit my big hand yet still comfortable to use. The weights are nice as well. I was going to get the G9 originally but its just too small.
I like Roccat Kone
Lachesis,G9 is too small for me.
Love my lachesis to death. Replaced a V1 G5.
i`m happy with my deathadder :D
logitech mx revolution or razer mamba
I have owned the MX518, G5, G9 and Ikari Laser.
And I have to say, Ikari hands down :) But the MX518 was and still is an awesome piece of hardware for its price.
Its bit old thread.
Since then few good mices hit market: Razer Mamba and ROCCAT Kone plus Steelseries Xai quite recently and few other new Razer mices (DeathAdder V2).
I have first edition of DeathAdder with bit modding, excelent gaming mouse, just not too much DPi, bought before V2.. bit regreting this. I´ve used Logitech MX500 before, another great mouse (MX518 is better ofc). Plus I have ROCCAT Kone, which except few flaws is almost perfect mouse. Those flaws are too big and too slim mousesurfers (telfons) and stupid mouse-wheel/middle-mouse button (at least at V1). Well and it has only 3200 DPi.. but thats not big issue.
I had Lachesis and sold, before good versions of firmware camed out.
Now thinking about Imperator, seems quite promising.
There is no The Best there is only what is best for each of us :P. The only way to find that is through trial and error.:D
i just bought a death adder again after a year of not using it, i went threw quite a few mice, g5, g9, lechesis, sidewinder. and putting my hand on this deathadder again was like resting my head on a perfect pillow, and its just unbelievable to me that this mouse has such perfect location of the thumb buttons and other mice cant quite get it right. maybe its just me.
I'm thinking about replacing my well-worn mx518 with either an imperator or the steelseries xai. I'm just starting to find this mouse way too heavy for my playing style... Need something quicker.
You should add razer Imperator
Well, I have a Roccat Kone now, so my vote goes for that one, but the MX518 is also great. Cheap and great. =)
Razer mamba here
I bet more people have Diamondbacks then those other Razers.
You forgot about the logitech g7.
I like my Lachesis on a Steelseries SX pad (aluminum pad). The side buttons are complete garbage though.
As a lefty, my market for mouses is quite limited. Looks like I'll stick with the Lachesis for a good while...
Anyone knows of some good left-hand friendly mouses?
I still use an old 3.0 but for daily use i've the ikari laser :up:
what about the Logitech G9x?