That doesn't sound right. Core i7 is a single die CPU... I can't see any possible way for temperature deltas of 10C+ between the cores...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
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That doesn't sound right. Core i7 is a single die CPU... I can't see any possible way for temperature deltas of 10C+ between the cores...Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Mine show that much from time to time *at idle* on Core 3 - they get closer as it warms up, but Core 0 is always highest. Sensor discrepancies..
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Is there any new about the deluxe V2 version?
Gr Yil
This mobo is sample, I send back to ASUS last month. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fox
my OCZ is Gold (D9JNM)
Thanks for info !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom-Crusher
Does it also improve stability at *same* voltage .. or only help to lower voltage for a given setting, however stable that may be ?
ie. If I leave my CPU @ 1.4V and change delay will it improve at this setting ?
I am going to try tonight .. so I guess we will find out :)
Hey guys I have a couple questions. Why is it when I set my BCLK Freq to 190-220 my Dram Freq shows very low MHz memory. Meaning I can choose something like this 1200, 1500, then it shoots up to 2100? Is this a board or CPU limitation? I feel like it is missing some more choices between 1500-2100? And my other noob question is where is the uncore setting at?
Yeah thats the memory multiplier at work .. you get x6, x8 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lu(ky
190 x 6 = 1140 Mhz
190 x 8 = 1520 Mhz
190 x 10 = 1900Mhz
190 x 12 = 2240Mhz
If your not seeing the 1900Mhz .. I dunno maybe P6T doesnt have this choice .. maybe upgrade the BIOS to latest
Either way unless you got super fast RAM I would stick with ~1600Mhz no matter way - theres so much memory bandwidth on these new motherboards doesnt make much diff ..
As for Uncore Clock its hidden by default I think you have to set AI Overclock Tuner to Manual .. or CPU Ratio .. one or the other and it will show the UCLK ..
Big big big big thumbs up to the new bios for me.
I can finally run 12 gigs of the Corsair 1600 @ 1600 + :)
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/40998/1600mhzram.jpg
My P6T Deluxe will arrive tomorrow . . . to replace two defective Gigabyte EX58 Extremes. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the Asus board, which is what I should've gotten in the first place!
Wow your kidding .. so this means they have officially gotten rid of the 6-slots-No-1600Mhz limitation for all brands of memory ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CookiePuss
The next question would be .. how fussy is it over timings if you mixed a 2nd set of 3 sticks of a different brand/timing .. would it dumb them both down to the same common denominator (as my old Inspiron lappie used to do) .. or treat them individually ?
Are you guys having sleeping issues with this board?
Well I am running Corsair Dominator 1866 6 x 1GB sticks. Trying to figure out this board setup compared to the old FSB setup on the x48 board I had. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by speckled10
So having a 965 CPU will show the missing below?
190 x 6 = 1140 Mhz
190 x 7 ?
190 x 8 = 1520 Mhz
190 x 9?
190 x 10 = 1900Mhz
190 x 12 = 2240Mhz
So far this is all I got too trying to figure out the memory settings. Still pushing. :yepp:
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...GHzlowcas6.png
Please tell me that they're not too prevalent. The sleep issue was one of the things that pissed me off about my Giga Extreme board. Hope I don't have it with this board too; will find out tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
wow you had the giga extreme and are coming to the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ter p6t, you obviously dont like perma turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by yenniedn
Im stuck with the p6t and would kill to replace it to the giga extreme.
perma turbo is (would be) cool . . . if my fooking Giga board would work!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raadster
If you knew the ridiculous drama I had to go through with my two Giga Extremes, you'll understand how glad I am to get rid of them.
I'm fairly sure the P6T Deluxe won't be my long term X58 board but I got it at a VERY good price so it'll hold me over until something better/more mature comes along in the near future. Most importantly, I just had to get away from the EX58 Extreme . . . I was ready to toss my whole system out the window.
edit: and btw, I'd swap boards with you but, really, I wouldn't wish that Giga board upon anybody . . .
I don't see the point of perma turbo... no way you would need it at idle. I have C1E enabled anyway, so the multi drops when not in use. It's pointless to keep the CPU at full tilt while you are just browsing the web or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raadster
Well . . . maybe if it made the pron load faster then . . . :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 003
Well I congratulate you !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom-Crusher
Added the 100ps delays and lower CPU to 1.3815V (from 1.4V) and its passed all my standard quick stability indicators ..
Cinebench Multiple Loops (>5)
OCCT 5 min
Prime Small FFT's 5 min
SuperPI
wprime Multiple Loops (>5)
I'm fairly certain it would not pass all these with anything <1.4V before ..
I also happened to upgrade BIOS to 1102 at same time .. but I doubt this had anything to do with it ..
Now might have to try for lower voltage !
Thanks again :)
Anyone tried Extreme cooling on their P6T Deluxe /i920 ?
I gave it a run with Dry ice yesterday and observed some weird issues.
It seems that if the temp on the pot is below -40c degrees, there is no POST at boot.
It is only at boot, as I was able to work even at -60c degrees in Windows.
I am trying to figure out if this is my crazy CPU or just crazy Motherboard.
BTW, I am running the latest bios, 1102
im thinking of getting this board but i want to know in a nutshell what the issues are with this board. cheers in advance
Sleep Mode in Vista doesnt work atm .. thats about it .. otherwise its a great board ..Quote:
Originally Posted by jonneymendoza
ASUS forums has a few more complaints .. but nothing major most of its been fixed I think .. especially the 6 x DDR3 memory @ 1600Mhz limitation :)
i never use sleep mode but can it be fixed with bios updates? matter of fact can all these issues be fixed? are their any issues that cannot be fixed like maybe physical aspects of the board that can create issues?
i know that in the gigabyte boards, if you put a huge cpu cooler in, it blocks one of the ram slots
Anyone get past 4.4 with this board? I need some settings because i'm stuck at 4.4 and have tried everything.
I have done past 4.4Ghz with the board, did 215x21=4510Mhz.
My i920 Is watercooled, all parts and cooling is in my sig.
The settings I used are pretty easy:
bclk: 215Mhz.
DRAM speed: 1720Mhz (multi x8) also ram dependent
Uclk (uncore): 3440Mhz (multi x16).
CPU Voltage: 1.58xxv (don't remember exactly) YMMV.
QPI/DRAM: 1.575v
HT: Disabled
Speedstep: Enabled
Turbo: Enabled.
DRAM Bus:1.64v
That is pretty much it, I was able to run Super Pi: 1M, 8M and 32M, so it was benchable, not rock solid stable.
I gave my system a run last night with dry ice, and I managed to pull the max out of it, 222blck x21 cpu multi.
the settings were pretty much the same, minus the QPi voltage, it seemed I could bench the same with just QPI voltage left on AUTO.
P.S.
Its maybe my chip, but I noticed that going above 200blck (3600Mhz QPI) requires significant increase in QPI voltage.
P.S.2
I see you have an i965 Extreme, so it is basically a whole different story, Just Kick the multi up and increase the voltage, easy as pie.
Aside from that, you might have a really bad chip.
Yeah, hitting a wall at 4.4GHz. Man that would just ruin my day. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by STi489
In the R2E thread, it looks as if the latest BIOS has resolved the S3 sleep issue for many so I would imagine that this would/will be the same for the P6T boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonneymendoza
I looked at the release notes of the latest P6T DLX bios (1102).
It only mentioned resolving memory compatibility issues, no word on S3 sleep issue so I wouldn't count on it.
Is this still true or has it been fixed?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstp2009
Sleep mode is broken at or above 170 bclk. Anything higher and it will sleep and resume once, and on the second sleep, it wont resume, and you must hard reboot. (You get a black screen and vid card fan goes full blast).Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fox
Crap. And I suppose this would be the same for my in-the-mail P6T WS Pro???Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
Certainly NOT true.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
I use SAS adapter, Perc 5/i without a problem, worked flawlessly on all latest 3 bios versions too (09xx,1003,1102).
I had this issue, just disabled sleep mode, why in the world a PC needs sleep mode ?Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
Just put the screen to turn off after about 15-20 Minutes and its fine for me.
You are spot on - I got the P6T Deluxe to replace two just horrible Gigabyte EX58 Extremes, where S3 sleep mode simply did not work, period (didn't matter what the BCLK is set at). The boards had other issues as well so I got sick of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
The P6T Deluxe has been considerably better. S3 sleep is not perfect but it does work up to a certain OC level but I don't have any of the other issues I had with the Giga board. And the P6T overclocks every bit as well as the Giga did for me (this was really the only plus of the Giga board).
I'm an hour into Prime95 small FFT as I'm typing this @ 4.0GHz (19x211 @ 1.4000v) with HT on and 12GB of Dominator DDR3 - not bad.
Anyone having issues setting uclk to anything but AUTO? With even conservative settings (in line with everything else) I get no post if I define the clock. I have no issues defining any of the other settings.
I just got this mobo and wil install everything tonight. Quick question, can I run dual OS??
Can I ask you what you are installing on the MB, sound card, raid, graphics?Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
"Why in the world"? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fox
I'll tell you why. Because it saves energy. The PC can be set to sleep after 5 minutes, and uses hardly any power at all, and it can be back to the OS in 2 seconds flat. That's why. :down:
Everything on my sig plus i7 920, 6gb OCZ Gold 1600. I asked about dual OS because my previous P5Q Dlx coudn't do it (Express Gate messed it all up). I'll start oc'ing after I finish installing all the software and will update later.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronWarrior
Any news about the V2 one ?????? Already official but not available .... Common Asus !
I want to buy a P6T Deluxe V2 ;)
Why? Is it better?Quote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
I wonder, is possible to run SLI with top and bottom pci-e 16x slots (i.e. skipping pci-e 16x slot in the middle)
Cheaper and hopefully with some bugs corrected :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
most of the bugs i heard from v1 are bios relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by jVIDIA
Ok, I broke down and ordered the Open Box deal of the P6T Deluxe on Newegg. If this board comes comletely bare with no accessories, besides the backplane, what else would I be missing that is a must have?
You'll get mobo only. It'll come in a white box w/ foam in anti-static bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geckotek
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing about Asus Open Box from Newegg.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
Anything in there I'll be truly missing? Is it hard to order the backplane from Asus?
Not really, I never use anything besides the backplate. But the Q-connector helps a lot.
What is the Q-connector?Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
You can plug all the individual small wires to it, the power on, reset, hd and pwr leds, etc, rather than try to plug each one into the board! Great for those with fat fingers and bad eyesight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geckotek
Ok, I figured out why the ftp server in the original post that has the BIOS updates does not contain the new 1102 BIOS. It is the wrong location. I used wireshark to find the URL from which the bios is downloaded when you select the global server, and this is the URL:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ELUXE-1102.zip
But if you remove the filename to just see the directory contents (for newer BIOS updates, or betas and such), it just says file not found. Anybody know how to see the directory contents?
Asus Open Box from Newegg is pretty random. The last two times I ordered one from them, I got the box and all parts. For my old P5B and my new P6T OC Palm edition. So it is up in the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geckotek
Man why does't this thread get as much love from ppl? ;)
I'm running a P6T vanilla, and there is only one silly bios upgrade that I haven't tried yet and won't.
I've got the P6T non deluxe too and already updated to the latest bios 0202 and everything are fine...:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalmyr
Damn I just found a stability problem here
If I leave *everything* on auto. The system hangs after about 5 minutes...
I never knew that because I overclocked it from day 1.
Anyway it took me a while to find the reason..
When the pc idles, the multi goes up to x22 and the vcore goes down to 1.0v, that is probably too low for my processor, and it hangs the system...
If i set manually in the bios 1.05v, I can idle or prime for hours and nothing will crash..
Lol wtf is wrong with this mobo, throwing my vcore down like that?
when everything is on AUTO everything should work perfectly. f*cking asus.
I have the same sleep issue regardless if it's stock speed or 4.2.
What is going on here.. the Gigabyte EX58 thread is 65 pages long.. I thought the P6T was the most popular X58 board?
it is. its just that more people are having probs and issues with the EX58 whilst us p6t users are too busy having fun OCing this badboy
Hahaha, well I don't have anything else to complain about
Totally fixed the vcore problem.. it was actually a software running on background that was making my pc crash or freeze.
That's one of the smartest answers I ever heard on XS:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonneymendoza
Was actually considering trying out this board till I read about the incoming v2 and this S3 issue. Most unusual for an Asus mobo not being able to do S3 properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by STi489
Riiiight... V2 anyone? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonneymendoza
The only issue I have with this board is the S3 sleep mode and I assume that will be dealt with via BIOS update. Great board otherwise, easy overclock and fast as hellfire.
I think that all boards have a problem with the S3 sleep
Is this motherboard good with this memory: OCZ Platinum Tri Channel 6GB PC12800 DDR3 Memory - 1600MHz, 6144MB (3 x 2048)
Memory Size: 3 x 2048MB
Memory Type: Triple Channel DDR3
Memory Speed: 1600Mhz PC12800
Memory CAS Latency: 7-7-7-24
Pins: 240
Thanks guys.
Question(s):
My board came with BIOS version 1003 installed. I know, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it', but is there a re reason to go to 1102?
I downloaded the 1102 bios and extracted it from the zip file. Does it need to be renamed so that the Easy Flash 2 Utility recognizes it?
Thank you
No, just put it on a flash drive and run EZ Flash 2. Just a quick note, for some reason, I can not get EZF2 to start using the setting inside the bios. I have to hit Alt+F2 (or whatever the combo is) at POST in order to access it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
And V2 fixed???Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
V2 fixed nothing, it's just minus the SAS connectors so big deal.
PHUCK me, just installed 920 on P6T-D to day and straight to 3.9Ghz with 1.3vcore and 1.35 QPI 195 x 20 without issues and stable so far.
After 1 month of constant hassles with Gigabyte X58 Extreme, totally unstable and flakey regardless of settings I RMA'ed the pos. Never and I mean never have I had so many problems with a board, even just loading optimised defaults in the bios and hitting F10 would cause the board to fail to reboot. :shakes:
The P6T-D also requires lowe volts for the same clock as the Giga and the cpu runs cooler as well. I'll retry the Giga when it comes back from RMA but if it exhibits the same problems then it's being sold.
Hello guys i just setup my system that is in my signature with Asus P6T Deluxe and with fresh and clean install of Windows XP Pro SP3. I have installed all the requested drivers in their latest versions and my Windows is full updated.
When i am using my system some times i can see very fast stuttering in mouse cursor movement and some freezing in the applications that are running but it is only for a second or less but it is still very annoying.
Some times when the mouse stuttering happens i have to click more than one time in the application's window to take control like the whole system is friezed.
Does anyone has notice anything similar with his system?
That's always been my experience with Asus.. never had one run right.. but never had a Giga fail me.. I think sometimes you just get unlucky with a brand.. obviously both are great boards if the reviews and those here in the forums that own them are anything to go byQuote:
Originally Posted by lowdog
But it's a little early to say the V2 didn't fix anything.. the Newegg feedback for this board had to be shut down it got so bad.. something is up with some of the boards at least
Somebody get the template of the p6t deluxe bios?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Ok, but should I even bother going to 1102?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Sure..Why not? I always grab the latest BIOS!
why does the Express Gate show up in explorer as a drive even though, I thought, i disabled it in the Bios?
I have mine disabled and it doesen't show up in explorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
If you have the palm edition it's the little palm that shows up in explorer as a drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
For the non palm edition i don't have a clue though what it could be.
Mine is a non-palm and only shows up after resuming from sleep mode. Upon initial startup, it isn't there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mak1skav
Update Express Gate and it will disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Does that require I update to the latest BIOS as well? My current version of Express Gate is 1.3.3.1 and i am using BIOS v1003Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekT
Does anyone use the EPU software included with the p6t deluxe?>
I don't and i don't use the probe either because i was getting bogus voltage alerts.Quote:
Originally Posted by knissel
One of the programs on that disk causes a clicking like a mouse or something every minute or so...Now i use none of the ASUS programs.
I had this issue, I updated Express Gate via the update software and the issue ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
The executable = ExpressGateUpdater.exe
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekT
I understand that but what is the latest version? It looks like on Asus' website that 1.3.13.2 is the latest.
What version is yours?
I'm thinking I may have a bad board. I'm running the P6T Deluxe non palm edition and have Bios 1102 installed. When I attempt to overclock my system to just a mild 3.0 Vista shows that I'm only running 4 gigs of memory when 6 gigs are installed. I see other people using 1600mhz speed memory and no mention of this problem. Is there a setting that I'm missing or something I'm doing wrong? Does someone have a OC template of the bios settings that I might compare mine too? Please advise if possible thanks.
Hi guys. Just got this board over the weekend. I'm running an i7-940. Has anyone been able to hit 4.2+ GHz with HT on?
I'm ~ 4GHZ( 211 x 19 ) w/HT on @ around 1.31 V(still tweaking)
Also, how do you turn turbo on? I'm using the 1102 bios. The gigabyte x58 extreme had it in the bios, but I can't find it here at all.
Does anyone have any stable 4.0GHz + settings they can share with me so I have a beginning point?
Thanks in advance.
i'm going to buy P6T deluxe in a few days, with Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 3x2gb 1.65v 8-8-8-24 C8, i7 920
I'm open for any suggestions
If there are any limitations i forgot or don't know
I'll be pleased to hear farewell speech :))))))))))) lol
Seriously, I'll be glad to get any help or suggestions till I place order.
P.S. I've already read all articles and threads ... . And I'm not experienced OCer.
Thanks in Advance !
I would get the G.Skill DDR3 1600... it has lower timings (8-8-8-21) and lower stock voltage (1.6v). And I can confirm it works perfectly on the P6T Deluxe.
Yahh, the Gskill are a nice set of ram.
With my P6T deluxe I was able to bench them on 2100Mhz @ 9-9-9-24 with just 1.8v dram voltage.
so, G.Skill...
but Dominator has such an awesome design... oks, whatever... best options = best RIG :)
anything else ?
what about BIOS ? ... there's rumor about that it loses settings, time , etc ...
what about CMOS battery, should I change it before assembling rig ?
what else ... hmmmmmm... how does eSata work with you ?
:) 10x
Same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Love this memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSlayer
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/h...ekT2008/i7.jpg
so i think i'll go with corsair
what about BIOS versions ? are they more stable compared with old versions
does cmos still lose its settings ?
should i change CMOS battery before building system ?
what ebout eSATA, there're several complains that it doesn't work at all or with only same models of eSata devices ...
What makes you wanna go with the Corsair ?
The above settings are mediocre, I can do them with my OCZ 1333Mhz Platinum.
Regarding the Asus P6T DLX, I never lost bios settings, the bat is absolutely fine.
Frankly, I haven't had any bios issues with the board, I like it a lot and it works great.
Template for bios here. :up:
I have successfully booted and run windows @ 4.2Ghz at 1.35v, but this is not prime95 stable, so I backed it down to 4.0Ghz find a 24/7 solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukee
IIRC, turbo is on, unless you turn it off. It's ahrd to miss the turbo setting: it's the 4th line in AI Tweaker [Intel Turbo Mode], right above the BLCK setting.
Here is my setup post. Running CPUv = 1.3125, QPIv = 1.225, DRAM = 1.6v. Everything else on Auto.
Let me know if you start tweaking with skew settings, as I want to get 4.1/4.2 at 1.35v if possible.
-td
I'm not saying you can't, but until you show it here, you are just at the "Yada Yada" stage. And you are speaking of 1GB modules. Apples and Oranges Wot! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Fox
And we all know that there are many Yada Yada's kicking around. :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by colt1911
I have the same problem regarding "missing" memory on my P6T Deluxe with 3 x 2GB G.Skill 1600MHz. 6GB installed only shows 4GB in Windows (Vista 64) and in the BIOS. CPU-Z shows 6GB. The board runs well otherwise. (Note - it showed 6B for the first few days)
I've seen at least half a dozen posts about the missing memory. Some people have RMA'd the board, or replaced memory and reported success. I dunno :shrug:
Reseat the CPU in the socket. Look carefully to make sure none of the pins are bent or damaged.Quote:
Originally Posted by shazza
Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Yep - saw someone else say that worked for them, so I tried reseating the CPU (no sign of bent pins) ... no joy. The board is running perfectly other than the mem issue, so I'm using it for now
I can't believe I missed it. lol, thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by 286SX
I'm LinX stable at 211 x 19 @ 1.296V(bios) (1.288 - 1.296 in CPU-Z)
The crazy thing is that I've normally encountered Vdrop and Vdroop, but with this board it is crazy. I use 1.35 and CPU-Z is reading more than that sometimes. I have LLC on, maybe I should just turn it off.
I just installed all my new hardware and was wondering if I should update the bios to version 1102 (is it stable enough)?
With my previous board it was necessary to update ExpressGate first before updating bios, is this still the case? If so, where can I find the ExpressGate image cause I can't find it on their download webpage?
Thanks in advance for the answers!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pisklink
I asked the same question a few posts back. My original BIOS was 1003 and express gate version was 1.3.3.1
I updated to the latest bios first (1102) and then updated my express gate via the express gate updater software to version 1.3.13.2. Both can be found on Asus' home page.
No issues since updating either.