Fitseries, with the NB-max NB waterblock is there still enough room to put a different sound card in the top pci-e 1x slot?? Or does anyone know if the EK block would allow this??
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Fitseries, with the NB-max NB waterblock is there still enough room to put a different sound card in the top pci-e 1x slot?? Or does anyone know if the EK block would allow this??
there seems to be a problem with patriot tri channels kits and this board...
one of the modules is not detected by the bios, nor windows, but cpuz has no problem seeing it...this is with the lastest bios....
a quick look at patriots forums, tells me i am not the first qith this problem, just a heads up...
all modules work fine on single or dual channel config....
4.3 is pretty good for 24/7 stable considering max 3d benchable seems to be in the area of 5ghz
that's also what I get with my chip (albeit at slightly lower voltages, and haven't exactly been doing monster P95 runs) which i have benched subzero at 5ghz, so i don't think you have a bum chip.
what bios are you using?
mine clock well...but no tri channel
0804
i mean, they boot with 1700ish with stock timings at 1.8v, but that's about it. no amount of voltage or qpi/dram will get them further. what are you getting?
i am using that bios, i will try a corsair tri kit tomorrow.
mine do 1800 ish with 1.65...
but its dual channels no tri....:mad:
tomorrow i will try the corsair kit and test the patriot kit on a p6t i got here...
hopefully i can get to the bottom of this...
there are a few post on patriot forum and asus with the same problem...nothing out of this world....
No, the x-fi doesnt have caps on the back. I modded my nb so the xfi would fit, but I would rather have a nb block like i had on my 790i Ultra and use the first 1x slot since I plan to do Tri-sli when 55nm comes out. I currently have Quad Sli and I can put it in the bottom slot or the top slot.....I am going to add a dual loop on my rig next week by adding a HW GtX240 rad for my CPU and NB on the top of my Lian-li PC-p80 case and a loop for my graphics cards on the HW gtx480 rad for my graphics cards. I think this will lower my temps, since currently the 480mm rad cools everything in my loop....cpu, and dual 9800gx2's...Any suggestions on what resorvoirs i should use for each loop? I use a swifteck micro-res right now for the single loop....Oh, by the way fitseries, my 920 does 20x200 with turbo on and ht off, but will bue screen after about 5 hours.....:(...If I trun HT on it shows 4.ghz, but when I start prime 95 it goes down automatically to 4ghz! Does anyone have this issue also??:(
i cant run 4ghz with HT on for very long at all.
the way i found that does work is use 19x218(my max bclk) and it benches fine.
for some reason i need WAY more volts than everyone else to get the cpu stable though.
has anyone messed with pll?
i need 1.58v for 4.1ghz 19x multi no turbo HT off to get benches to run all the way through :(
Wow, Thats a ton of voltage!!!I think 1.55 is the max anyone should go....Well, without phase or lnc cooling that is LOL!!
pfffft..... i have chilled water and sometimes i use my 320watt TEC.
I have never tried chilling the water since you have to insulate everything. I will post some pics of my setup when I have my second loop in. The I7 is tooooooo hot to be in a single loop with 2 9800gx2s, even with a 480mm rad!!
Oh, by the way, I picked up an mcp-650 pump for only 29.99! Which is what I will use for a second loop. I know it's noisier that the newer mcp-655, but for $45 less with the same specs otherwise. I can live with the noise and I am sure I won't here it over all the other fans in my PC! ;)
Fitseries, So the X-fi should fit with the swiftech waterblock for sure? Even long sound cards will fit?
That Iwaki pump can really push some water, much more than my mcp-655. Seperating the loop should be a lot cooler, though with 2 resorvoirs!! I am just trying to decide what 2 resorvoirs to use.....
I was looking at the EK-NB Asus HP Waterblock, but it looks wider and probably wont allow cards to fit in the first 1x slot...
can you post a pic of how close your NB WB is to your wireless card? That would really help me!!
im not by my rig right now but this is of my friends rig....
http://img.techpowerup.org/081216/Picture%20339.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/081216/Picture%20340.jpg
Thanks!! Looks like barely enough room, so your network card is actually up against the NB cooler when you have it in that top slot right? Thanks agan for posting that as I couldnt find anyone with pics on the net!!:)
I could probably shave a bit of the acetal on the WB so any sized card could fit i believe....
WTF, I have the same problem. Which BIOS are you using? I'm on 0804. I thought that maybe I was shutting something down incorrectly...I was not sure. However, now that I think of it carefully I was not. If I shut it down, and then boot again in the morning I cannot boot and I have to reset CMOS before I can boot. This is so dumb. If it's not the BIOS then me thinks time to RMA...
Anybody else with the cold boot issues?
Also, I've been having a lot of trouble stabilizing 4.0GHz. I have tried a lot of settings but I can't really say that any of them are long-term Prime stable. Could it be our boards maybe and not the chips? It's too coincidental to be the chips IMHO.
I have a Tri-Channel OCZ 1600 CL8 installed in a Gigabyte x58 Extreme. Im thinking to go for a RIIE. Anyone knows if this dram is perfectly compatible for this board?
I'm almost totally positive it is. But not 100% because i'm running Corsair Dominators. Those were not on the Certified Memory list on Asus's website but they work anyway. As long as they have the XMS memory profile set by intel your alright.
what am i doing wrong here? my 920 needs 1.57v to boot 20x200 with HT disabled turbo off. WTH is going on?
ouch... what are you running that ram at? Try my settings on the first page.
tried your settings. my chip wont boot at low voltage at all.
i've tried ram at 1600 and 1200. neither help at all. tried loosening timings too and still no go.
tried,
more NB, more pll, more qpi/dram, different ram, different psu, different video cards, resetting bios, different bios, im just not getting anywhere at all it seems.
idk what the deal is. i get really close and then it stops working all together.
sounds like you just got a really bad overclocking chip. order you another one.
while running p95 temps rise to 56c after about 30seconds then hardlock.
the thing i dont understand is the first week i had this setup this cpu ran 4.3ghz easily. i even got a screenshot at 4.5ghz.
BIOS's guys...we're gonna have to wait on BIOS revisions. I wouldn't sell anything yet. It's only been 3 1/2 weeks since these were out. It's gonna be months before they get all the little gremlins out.
Thanks for the feedbackQuote:
I'm almost totally positive it is. But not 100% because i'm running Corsair Dominators. Those were not on the Certified Memory list on Asus's website but they work anyway. As long as they have the XMS memory profile set by intel your alright.
Too late!!!
I went and returned my 965 and exchanged it for a 920.
My max stable oc on the 965 was 4.3 and guess what my max stable oc on the 920 is... Give up?
4.3 :D
Guess for me the 965 was just a waste of money since I can do the exact same thing with my 920. With the exact same volts by the way.
Huh
I was on BIOS 0705 but since this morning i flashed to 0804. I just got home from work this evening and put the pc on and guess what, had to flip the powersupply switch to get the pc to boot but i don't need to clear CMOS. Try to flip the powersupply switch to get all of the power away from the board, then flip it again on and it boot's up just fine.
The cold boot issue on my Blitz Formula never has been resolved and i just sold that board, if you set everything @ stock there was no problem!
This is exactly the same now on the REX II, if i however set CPU level up to Core i7 965 EE there's no problem at all :shrug:
ah... im gonna stick with this chip then. i may get a different one. i think i need a different board. 16x 8x 8x is NOT enough bandwidth for my video cards. im looking to locate a P6T6 Revolution.
Yeah, but you lost the multi's and the QPI. When things mature and the 965's are getting 4.5GHz max, would that have been a good plan?
Like I said, these things have not even been out but 3 1/2 weeks and guys are already RMA'ing stuff just because it doesn't OC as high as they want. For one thing, there was nothing wrong with the chip to be RMA'ing it in the first place, and for another, none of this stuff is mature enough to make any kind of decisions about what it's gonna do. There could be any number of revisions to BIOS's or there could be Chipset Drivers (which I also believe to have a few bugs).
So you RMA'd a CPU, made the company you bought it from loose 1300 dollars on the deal, and got the same clocks? :shakes:
I'd say yes. An extra .5Ghz along with the multi's/QPI ain't worth an extra few hundred bucks, no matter what way you look at it. ;)Quote:
Yeah, but you lost the multi's and the QPI. When things mature and the 965's are getting 4.5GHz max, would that have been a good plan?
All I know is 4.3 for $320 is WAY better than 4.3 for $1150. Seriously
And my ram, qpi and uncore speeds are almost identical to what they were on my 965 4.3 overclock.
So I put $700 back in my pocket and lost 200 pts on everest read, write and copy.
You're right that was a terrible decision :rofl:
where are you guys paying $1200 for a 965? i have found TONS of them for ~$850
i get the cold boot problem as well.
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where are you guys paying $1200 for a 965? i have found TONS of them for ~$850
Well here in UK they are much more expensive:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151479
£849.00 for the 965 which equates to $1,322.55 USD :eek:
£249.00 for the 920 which equates to $387.983 USD
I know where my money went :);)
I had 2 9800gx2's with one card in the bottom slot at 8x and one card in the top 16x slot and it had enough bandwith! Then i moved the lower card into the middle blue slot so I could have 16x and 16x and the scores were identical. With pci-e 2.0, I don't think it makes a difference!
i havent had any problems with my corsair 1000hx psu...all good here...
Bought on relase day and had to pay tax :(
That's why it was so much
Oh well, the upside to the local purchase was the 30 day return policy which I ended up using
Anyway, it's funny how context is so important. I was really dissapointed in a 4.3 clock on the 965 but I'm thrilled with the same clock on the 920.
i get almost the same scores with 2 gtx260s as when i run 3 cause the bandwidth is choaked at 8x on 2 cards. i had this same problem on p45 and x48. i have had one board ever to have 3 full 16x slots and MAN did it fly. FPS where way higher than at 16 8 8 .
i will have proof when i get the P6T6 Revolution.
Did you try to OC it hard?
I see where your coming from though- Im looking to buy a new CPU and the EE is on my list, but after seeing most ppls clocks- There feeling shy !
It seems no one cares about trashing the 920 CPU.
Ive seen some ppl run there 965 at 4.5 with pretty low heat.
My buddy OC'd his to 4.4 by simply rasing the multi at stock, nothing else.
Kept everything else the same!
I see alot of ppl going 4.2 and over on the 920 but after a week or so they have to change there OC because it wasnt fully stable.
you might wanna do a 24 hour prime run and see how it fares.
I pushed 1.6v through my 965 trying to get it to prime at 4.4 with no success :(
For me the trade off is a no brainer at that point. Even if I had to settle for 4.0 (which it seems every 920 can do) there's no way that 300mhz is worth $700 to me. I was willing to pony up the extra dough for some extreme clocking, but siceit seems that the 965s aren't really better chips, I'll put the money elsewhere.
TBH I just love the tri-sli on an intel chipset, CPU clocks are secondary at this point
It's the usual, "luck of the draw" with cpus....."Cpus are like a box of chocolates...,you never know what your gonna get!":D
Hello guys! Do you think i would hit 4ghz 24/7 with:
Asus r2e
Corsair dominator 1600 3x2gb cl8
i7 920
Two xfx gtx 280 sli
etc. etc.
What are the odds?
Well, I you do 4ghz, no problem on 920. More than that is hit or miss.....
Yes, but I think I will have 4.134 stable here also.....Working on it.
I Believe this cooler is the best aircooler....PERIOD!
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24732
or if its a bit too expensive, this is the next best!
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=24731
That place cab ship internationally you know.....hehehe;) I understand not being able to get something, I still can't get a lga 1366 hold down for my fuzion v2 block......I made something up!
Same PSU here and i have the cold boot issue, can't be the PSU then :up:
Whatever i do i just can't get 4.0GHz stable on my 920 :brick:
Made something up for my FuZion V1 aswell :D
http://i40.tinypic.com/dgj8e1.jpg
Wow, cool idea!! What I had to do is flip the metal hold down for 775(pro mount) ange some screws a little bit and put huge rubber washers on the back to keep the bolts from damaging the board. I used springs from a tuniq tower clamp it down with some nuts....It doesnt look too bad and works great!!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=205521&page=7
This is how I did it, the pics arent so great(phone)...
Um, sounds like your CPU is dying my friend...maybe a little too much voltage?
If you run the volts too high it will suffer degradation and then even at the same volts you will not be able to get the same clocks. Over time, this will get worse up until the point where you need like 1.5V to run stock speeds and the chip dies.
On the note of the cold-boot issue...seems to be a lot of people that are having this problem. It is not the PSU for sure. Two people with the same PSU may not get the same problem. Sounds like faulty boards to me...
Did anyone RMA the board and got a working replacement?
Also, I wonder if there is some kind of fault on the boards could that be affecting our OC ability as well? What are your OCs like for people that have the cold-boot problems?
To the people discussing heat issues, I have found that not only is the i7 965 a very stable overclocker, but at 3.8 I can run it 24/7 and it will not exceed 30c according to Everest, the same temp as my old QX6850. I am using a Coolit Elite thermelectric, chilled coolant system and it has been extremely effective; I do not even have the coolant temperature dialed down all the way. I am waiting on Danger Den blocks to hook my HD4870 X2s up to another Coolit. For sure in my years of working with computers I have not run across a more impressive CPU from a technology standpoint.
I also have a problem with my Rampage II which I wonder if anyone else has ever experienced. It will only recognize a DVD or CD in my drive if the DVD is in the drive when the system boots up. Otherwise if you later put a different DVD or CD in nothing happens and the system locks if you try to open the DVD. The DVD is currently the sole unit (I disconnected the other), I traded out the unit, it is set to parent, it is getting power, I have flashed the BIOS, since it is a new build I reinstalled Vista Ultimate and finally I gave in and am waiting for a SATA internal DVD/CD to arrive. However, if anyone knows of anything in particular with this motherboard which could be causing the problem I would really appreciate the info for while the problem is not hugh it is one of those little things that drive you crazy chasing down.
Thanks
dont take me wrong... i can boot at lower voltages but its no where near stable enough to do anything other than boot the machine.
stock runs at 1.1v with this chip still. even when i ran it on my TEC it needed a fair about of voltage. i can still get 4.4ghz to boot but getting to the desktop is like a 1 in 100 chance.
i have the cold boot problem as well.
at first it wont do anything other than power up the fans and lights. i hit the reset button and then it will hang on DET_DRAM for a min or so then i hit reset again and it powers right up. very odd yes but this isnt the first board this has happened with, 775's included.
Yeah, see, I have been on the AMD boat for the last 12 years so I have no idea how anything worked in the Intel world. Core i7 is my first Intel build since 1996. The cold boot is sure annoying though. I am just curious to see if there is some parallel that can be drawn between the cold boot and the crappy OC requiring a ton of voltage on certain boards. After all, cold boot is indicative of a power problem of some sort, and having to provide a lot of power to make OC stable and/or not being able to stabilize it at all could also be indicative of a power problem. :shrug:
I had a long discussion with Asus tech support today about the cold boot issue. Unfortunately they are unaware of the problem, so I guess it's up to us to find what's causing the problem. My computer specs are in the sig below and if we could work together to get this issues solved we may be able to present our findings to Asus for a fix. Thanks.
Any idea if the "Thermalright HR-05 SLI / IFX" will fit on this board?
I see it's easy to swap of that annoying northbridge heat-pipe that is blocking for my Asus Xonar audio card!
Any idea if I can swap it with a HR-05 SLI / IFX? That would make things both cooler and making my Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe fit perfectly!
It's not very likely that we will find any sort of a solution, or for that matter a cause. I do not have multitudes of boards at my disposal (infact I have only one) and I had two i7 940 CPUs. Now just one. I have no testing equipment either besides a DMM. But, it is worth a shot I guess...
My specs are as follows, if anyone is interested...
Core i7 940
Corsair Dominator XMS3 1600MHz 8-8-8-24-2T (rating at 1.65V)
Rampage II Extreme, Revision 2.01G, 0804 BIOS
Antec TruePower Quattro 1000W, 80+ Certified, 72A on four 12V rails
Generic NVIDIA video card...
Generic hard drives...
Logitech USB keyboard and mouse
Triple-boot, Ubuntu Linux, Windows XP Pro SP3, and Vista 64-bit
There it is...now let's hear others...
Very nice tread , i will follow closely :)
Looking forward too see how it goes!! *fingers crossed*
honestly man... i think my coldboot issue is more of a warm up thing.
kinda like how a car sometimes needs to be warmed up in the winter.
mine simply wont run until i have let it sit on for a few mins to warm up. sounds odd but i did some experimenting and if i attempt to boot and it does nothing i leave it for about 3-5mins then hit reset and it boots up fine no problems. if i mess around and try to force it to post then i end up loosing my bios settings and it still takes a few mins to get it to post anyways.
That's preicsely it. That's what mine does. I've never had issues with it not booting. It will just hang during the boot process. If I leave my PSU switch on it fires right up, but if I shut the PSU off and totally power it down, I would sometimes get hangs at DET RAM, and VGA BIOS. I've never had a complete failure to boot though.
I suspect there might be some BIOS fixes and Chipset Drivers on the way. We'll see...
Well, I got 4.1ghz(actually 4.095 in everest) stable on prime 40 16 hours, 20x195, 1.4125v bios(1.40 actual underload), 1.35 vdram/qpi, 1.6706 Ram voltage, everything else auto.... If I increase vdram.qpi to more than 1.375, core 2, and 4 will fail randomly after 10 hours of prime 95, unless I increase voltage to 1.49! This only happens during the large ffts which usually mean memory issues, but it passes memtest with any setting I choose......
Is it safe to buy this board? There seems to be SO many issues with this. I don't really want to buy a mobo which wont boot up when it's cold. Also, evga and gigabyte boards seem to be more stable and overclock better. Some ppl here need like 1.58 v when ocd to only 4ghz. I really would like to have this but it would be stupid to buy if i already know there will be issues. Does anyone here with corsair hx1000w psu have problems with cold booting?
Please tell me ur opinions so i can finally hit that "buy" button.
I have the Corsair HX1000W PSU and i also suffer from the cold boot issue but it's random, sometime's it boot's directly and sometime's it don't :shrug:
I have OCZ Gold XTC 3x1GB DDR3-1600Mhz CAS 8 and i have the cold boot issue! There go's you're theory :rofl:
I am not, but i never turn the switch off on the back of my pc for the psu.....I also have that memory!
This is just annoying! It seems to be completely random. Must be the board itself! Well, if this doesnt sort out i think i'll go with evga
no cold boot issues here :shrug:
I'm very happy for you sonofander! Hope everything goes well. But still it's weird... Seems its not PSU nor RAM related issue. Must be the board. Btw what kind of voltage do you need to run at 4ghz and can you do it 24/7?
Has anyone RMAed their board because of cold boot issue?
I would appreciate any help! =)
It does seem to be very, very random. I think that some of the boards may be faulty. Since I have had it happen two times in a row a couple of days ago, it has not happened again. Definitely had the opportunity to do it as I turn off the comp every night. The ROG light was not blinking either, but it booted just fine.
Btw, the disappearing memory issue, has anybody had that happen? I noticed that at certain settings for Uncore/QPI and DRAM speed memory channels will drop off so instead of 6GB I will sometimes boot with 4GB, and sometimes with just 2GB. I read on the R2E forums on Asus that some people RMAed the board because of this...maybe that's what I ought to do?
I just got off the phone with Asus support where I laid out all of the problems seen so far with this board...the list follows...
1. Disappearing memory channels/memory detected incorrectly (e.g., only 2GB out of 6GB get detected at boot). Depending on settings, this can be triggered at will and is not normal. BIOS used does not affect or correct this.
2. Instability at 200MHz BCLK and/or 20x multiplier (but not above or below). Possibly there are more combinations that are unstable with 20x multiplier.
3. IOH voltage is stuck (i.e., cannot be changed and/or there is a huge discrepancy between the set voltage and actual voltage...I'm talking 0.08V or higher). In one example I set the IOH voltage to 1.32V and the actual voltage read only 1.24V, same as when the voltage was just set to 1.24V. I don't think 0.09V is considered acceptable discrepancy. Furthermore, no matter how high I go with the settings (I tried 1.5V) I only got 1.28V max on the board using a DMM. That's a whopping 0.22V difference!
4. Random (cold-boot) no power up after shutdown. Appears to happen for no reason, PSU was ruled out, DRAM was ruled out, BIOS was ruled out, graphics were ruled out, even CPU was ruled out. Requires typically a CMOS reset, complete power cycle, or a wait time before trying to boot after initial failure.
5. Motherboard not rebooting correctly after a BIOS update and requiring CMOS reset to be hit every single time (this is not normal behavior).
6. SLI Configurations not working on all of the boards. I did not try this on my board.
7. ROG light not blinking when the computer is off as it is supposed to but instead staying steady. This appears to have something to do with the cold boot as they seem to happen in conjunction, but I am not 100% sure.
8. No ability to delete O.C. Profiles from BIOS without reflashing the BIOS.
Anyway, my board is going for an RMA as soon as Asus verifies advanced RMA stock for shipping to Canada. Hopefully, the new board will have no problems. If Asus forums are any guideline I am in for some good times, at least in terms of the memory issues. There have been a couple of individuals there that had this issue, RMAed the board, and the replacement worked flawlessly. I do hope!
Guess I am one of the lucky ones for once. I installed the board with my i940, 6 gigs of corsair 1600(non-dominator), and tri-gtx 280s. After about three reboots I had it running at 191 x 21 on air with ht and it has been stable+prime stable for almost a week now. No cold boots, no bsods, no errors, and no start up trouble. :eek:
Voltages are cpu 1.32, pll is 1.81, and qpi/dram is 1.39
Um, Guys, my computer won't boot. I was running fine at 4.1 and decided to start working back on my 4.3 stable hunt. I reset, went into bios, changed the multiplier to 180 x 24 with the following voltages:
vcc = 1.475
QPI = 1.375
PLL = 1.86
IOH = 1.20616
also, tried the memory @ 1804, with an UNCORE of 1804 and QPI of the lowest, I think 4600?
So, the bios screen hung, I powered off, powered back on and nothing happens. The lights on the mobo are lit, but the LCD says welcome and just starts counting. No DET MEM, nothing...
What are possible causes? More importantly, SOLUTIONS?
Did you try to clear CMOS? Also try this, flip powerswitch off and wait till all the power is off the board. Then flip it back on and see if it will boot ;)
If that is the case then you're experience the cold boot issue! Still no boot then move the jumper on the mobo to BIOS#2 :up: