Don't you need vista to run vantage?
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Don't you need vista to run vantage?
I believe you do. What's keeping me from it is the default res. I can't run that res.
Ah, what is keeping it from me is vista... how is your score on default settings in 06 though I am interested in comparing a similar setup.
In fact it would be really interesting if you set your card to 702 1512 1269 because we have the same cpu at the same clock and the result should thus show how big of a difference ram/m/b makes!
Yes this card is awesome on water. Here is a run I did this morning on a P5Q with a EVGA GTX280 with EK block on its own loop with a GTX240 rad. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9955987 :cool:
WOW, very nice!
Will do those runs later tonight. I did a run earlier at those high clocks and got near 22K... it was 21,97x I think 21,973 but cannot remember the last number.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroibis
It's just shy of 22K though. I'm using high BCLK and low multi. 21x Multi on the CPU for a 4.2GHz OC.
I'll run at reduced clocks later tonight. UFC is coming on in a few minutes, and I watch it religiously. :yepp:
That 23,000 score above is a good one!
Just for you I did the 3DM06 run at 702/1512/1269 and got a score of 21,130. My OS is not tweaked at all. No tricks, no tweaks. Just a straight up run at those clocks and the CPU clocks in my sig. I could get alot more out of it on XP tweaked, and using some other tweaks, but haven'y got to that yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroibis
I nioticed a distinct difference in the runs from the higher clocks on the card in my sig. The max FPS in both the HDR tests (Canyon Flight and Firefly Forest) were lower, and in all tests I didn't see the FPS recovery and rebound I did with the higher clocks...it just didn't have that "ummmph" like it does with the higher clocks.
flesheatinvirus,man but you modd de voltage,for this frequencie.with standard voltage its not possible to increase that much
You do have a good 280 T_Flight...
750/1625/1250 !! :p:
go 756/1620/1296... I bet it will work fine for you!
756 is still my max core, but runs error free all the time...
1620 on shaders is outstanding! 1566 is my absolute max, but normally keep them on 1512. Mine wont even tun at 1620, so you have better shaders than me for sure!! :up:
Memore will run fine for you 1296, but can get dicey at 1323, 1332, or 1350.
Keep us posted, and glad you have a runner!! :sonic:
I need an EVGA FTUW (FOr The Uber Win) BIOS with loosened mem timings, and need a slightly increased mem voltage if that's possible with these cards.
Heck I might just decide to seal up the boards and hoses, pour in some antifreeze, and drop the rad in dry Ice and pull a holeshot run. :D It's been a thought.
No voltage mods where done to this card for that clock, it will actually do 820 core max.Quote:
Originally Posted by mit78
i understand,but you have xp.try in vista 64,your score its not better than 20000 points
Thanks for the data! Yea I am running with no special tweaks done to anything. Although I would like to hear about them lol. It is interesting to see how close virtually identical systems preform. I noticed that although we are running the same cpu at the same clock we both used different methods. (I used multiplier)Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
As for the difference in power at higher clocks, I am recording my scores as I increase speed so I can see what the change is per 10mhz. I have excel setup to show the point difference as well as the % change in performance. Later I will be able to go back and compile the data and we should be able to see some interesting trends. I will post up my data once I have maxed the card out. What I also hope to do is go back and look at the temps at different speeds to also get data on heat output changes. I plan to do that after the fact though.
Here is another run I just did this time with my Yorky at 4400mhz at 1.45v. Card is on stock voltage. The GTX280 still scales nicely with a faster CPU and is not maxed yet. My 9650 has more left as well. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10004906:cool:
This thread has been very helpful as the OP has a very close setup to what have and great testing+ feedback.
My main problem is that with a Q6600 at 3.6 (1.45V in BIOS) and an EVGA GTX280 at 756/1566/2600 my CPU temps can get to 70C under prime95 small ffts load as measured by real temp.
For the GPU 58C seems to about the max it will get to while running furmark stability test, all other games/benchmarks don't really go above 52C.
Compared to the OP these do seem quite higher even taking into account a slightly higher ambient temperature.
What I am currently contemplating is the current swiftech MCR320 rad I have may not be enough for my system. I am wondering by upgrading to a PA120.3 would this net me at least about 4-5C cooler temperatures or more to justify the cost of the rad. I understand two loops do provide better cooling but I would like to stick to one loop also.
Current WC system:
Swiftech MCR320 Raditor
Swiftech MCP-655 Pump
EK Supreme Universal GPU block
Swiftech GTZ CPU Block
Swiftech MCRES Micro Reservoir
1/2" tubing
feser one Cooling liquid
BP Compression Fittings
I also am in the process of upgrading to a EVGA X58 Classified MOBO when it is released and 920 i7 processor, and from what I hear the i7's put out a lot of heat, although I do not know if it would be more or less heat then what my current Q6600, any info on this would be helpful.
I also forgot to mention I have 3 Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm fans on the radiator pushing air through the radiator through the top of the case. The radiator is mounted horizontally on the top inside of the case.
man i din believe that running core freq of over 800mhz was possible..
i tried to get mine higher..but seems like the max stable for my core is 720..
i have it under wc..three cards..but even with the adjusting of voltage to 1.3 yielded no higher clocks..
any other way to get round this? need higher voltage or sth?
note: will use precision tool to get an accurate reading on my frequencies...
Time to start working on those shaders ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha1ma
Have you checked your temps?
hmmm..righto..will get to it to see if it helps..Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
yes zero..i din notice much change with the voltage change..Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroibis
heres one at 720/1250/1500 er..do pardon mi for using this not so accurate frequencies readings..will use precision tool to set next time..
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX 9650 @ 4.4 Ghz (400 x 11) 1.55V
3 x Asus GTX 280 1GB in 3 Way SLI @ 720/1250/1500
Software Used: 3DMark Vantage Professional Edition (As LOAD)
Software Used: CPU-Z 1.49
Software Used: GPU-Z 0.3.0
Software Used: Hardware Monitor 1.13
Ambient Temperature: 24 Degrees Celcius
CPU IDLE Temperature (in degrees celcius): 37 37 34 39
CPU LOAD Temperature (in degrees celcius): 65 60 61 67
GPU IDLE Temperature (in degrees celcius): 38 39 40
GPU LOAD Temperature (in degrees celcius): 48 55 62
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Untitled14.jpg
bump...
Anyone have any input or recommendations on my post above? Thanks.
Try 1566 then 1620 on the shaders. My mem doesn't clock very high, and for me, you already have a pretty decent memory overclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by raidflex
Thanks, but i'm looking more for any advice on maximizing my current Water cooling system and improving my temperatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
Also if a core i7 CPU would dump much more heat then my current Q6600 or about the same. I do know Vcore voltage will have an effect on heat dump also but im just looking to confirm that the Core i7's will be in the same ballpark.
Personally I would try to do separate loops, this way there is no worry and best performance, especially for the cpu. If that is not an option, always consider having a bigger rad when ever heat dump is an issue. At the end of the day all the heat dump in the world should not matter if you have enough radiator capacity. Actually with those temps (in the burn) I would recommend more and bigger rads for your loop (assuming your pump is good). What is you coolant temp, I am a fan of water probes so you know how well the heatsink vs the loop is working to cool your system. Not to say those temps are bad, I am just a bit crazy about trying to keep things <60 but more importantly in the low 100's max.
I have the Swiftech MCP-655 pump which should be plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeroibis
I am considering either adding a second radiator or I would really prefer to just purchase a better radiator like a PA 120.3.
I do not have a temperature probe currently but that is a good idea and I will invest in one.
I agree with the lower temps even if what I have is within hardware spec I always feel more comfortable with lower temps.
I was also considering using a flow rate indicator but I am afraid that this will have too much of an affect on my flow rate to justify adding the device to the system. But if you have any idea's on this it would be much appreciated.
I am running my GTX280 on its own loop with a EK Nickel block and GTX240 rad running with a Petras top modded Swifty MCP355 pump. Rad is remoted outside case and it works awesome. CPU has its own loop with a PA120.3 rad, Fuzion block and MCP655 pump.
I wanted to make an update boy's...
I found the program LinX which runs the IBM LINPACK Test I believe...
It is a CPU heat generating monster for sure, and a stability checker all in one.
It didn't like my 3.8GHz setting, even though Prime and OCCT passed fine.
I set my FSB back to 414 to give me 3.7265GHz, as reported from cpu-z.
I lowered my BIOS CPU voltage to see the lowest that 3.7GHz could run LinX successfully.
BIOS voltage 1.48125v failed in Prime given 25 minutes.
BIOS voltage 1.48750v failed in Prime given 43 minutes.
BIOS voltage 1.49375v passed Prime and OCCT, but would not run a LINPACK Test error free.
BIOS voltage 1.50000v, or 1.48v in Everest runs everything I throw at it including LinX. :up:
With me running at 3.7GHz, and lowering my core voltage down from 1.53750v in the BIOS to 1.50000v, my GPU idle temp reads 37C.
I consider this good given the CPU load that is on the system.
I think the entire temp of my loop likes the lower CPU voltage? :)
63C was the highest temp any CPU core hit during this test...
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4374/linxnb9.jpg
Those temps to me at least seem very good. I have almost the same configuration as you but cannot seem to get my temps down. And with only 1.45V in BIOS on CPU I can hit 70C with prime95 small fft. And the GPU can hit 57C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Any ideas on what I can do to help lower the temps?
Also what do you use for your cooling fluid?
Distilled water, some UV die, and PT Nuke.
What block is in your CPU, and how big is your RAD?
I am using the swiftech GTZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
RAD is a swiftech MCR320
I am also currently using fluid XP, thankfully without any gunk buildup that I have heard stories about, but I am wondering if I should switch to something like you use if it would give me better temps.
I am also planning on upgrading to a core i7 920 system very soon. Actually I'm just waiting on the new EVGA classified mobo to be released.
Now I know the core i7's dump more heat and im concerned from my tempatures currently that the current radiator will not be enough.
I have two ideas for what to do with another radiator.
1st: grab a second MCR320 radiator and mount it under my current radiator on the top of the case with 3 additional fans.
What I would do also is have the hotter liquid go to the top most radiator first and then to the second one, but I do not think this will work to well as heat from one radiator is still going across the other.
2nd: I could add a 120.1 radiator mounted inside the case on the back pushing air through the back and out of the case. The problem with this is the back fan on my case is a 160mm I believe, so it might be more difficult to mount.
One thing I do not want to do though is add a second loop. Adding to my current loop is fine just don't want a second one.
Also I would like to keep all WC components inside the case.
If anyone else has any other ideas please post them. Thanks
You'll probably get a better response by opening your own thread rather than hijacking someone else's.Quote:
Originally Posted by raidflex
I am not trying to "highjack" someone else's thread. I posted here because the OP has a very similar setup as I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
Not bringin' the hostility, bro, just trying to get you some high quality responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by raidflex
Peace :)
Its alright I will open up a new thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by warriorpoet
nice thread will add some 280 details later
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3718/gpu.th.jpg
No mem OC yet... shaders holding back core, VRM temps holding back shaders. notice the voltage this was achieved at.
Here is another run I did last night with my GTX280 on its own loop at 795/1272/1660. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10082128
Ok it looks like my eVGA GTX280 SSC is quite good under water. After some preliminary testing, it seems that 783/1674/2484 is the best absolutely 100% stable OC I can achieve, and with only 1.1625 vcore! Stock vcore is 1.1875. This is stable for 4200+ seconds on FurMark 1.6.5 @ 1024x768 with Xtreme Burn mode enabled, 0xMSAA and no post processing. Lack of voltage is holding me back from increasing the shader and core clocks, and VRM temps are holding me back from increasing voltage. If I had a FC block & dedicated loop, I think I would be looking at an 800/1700+ 24/7 FurMark stable card here! Here's the screenshot:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3718/gpu.th.jpg
I can run the core at 792MHz relativly stable, but it would occasionally cause an artifact in FurMark. Only very seldomly, though. I am very anal and like my stuff to be 100% stable. If I could run STOCK vcore here, I have no doubt 792MHz and up would be stable with relative ease. Again, VRM temps are the limiting factor here. Take a look at the screenshot :eek:
Edit:
Note that I have not tested any higher memory speed. I just set it at stock 285 speed and left it alone. It may be stable at higher clocks, I might get around to testing that at some point.
Thanks for all the info. Do you know how hot the VRM can get before it's too much? I have the same situation with one of my cards, the VRM's are around 130C during furmark burn test.Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
Yes, thanks for the info 003. :)
FYI - Our data base of Vantage scores for single 280's..
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55983;�
Dual 280's...
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55987;�
and TRI-SLI 280's is growing.
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...ey=�
I hope to make 1 master list, after a huge swath of data is collected, so we can say that: X processor, running at Y speed, with this GPU clocked about ZZZ fast, should produce you about a PXXXX score in Vantage, run at the default settings.
PhysX enabled... The way us Nvidia boy's run! :p:
I want to color code them on the merge, to let people see where each GPU falls in the great Vantage scheme of things...
A look at the master plan:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...55987;�
thats lovely..do non evga get to post their scores? >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
since its a evga forum..so i thot i would ask first..
great effort to maintain such a list...helps ppl to get a better idea of wat score they are expecting..
Thanks.
I would say you ned to be an EVGA member to post... :)
I believe the boy's would want to see you post an entry in that actual thread.
If I were to start bringing scores in from other places, I am not sure how it would be received. :D
It is a fun board.
hee..yup..Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
i juz joined that forum and posted in ur single thread..:)
just a suggestion bro..issit possible to list the gpu score too?
Thanks!! :p:
I don't want to change the chart now... Gasp! :)
But all links are listed with each post, so the entries that you like more detail on, when their link is clicked, takes you to that neet compare screen, putting your system next to theirs.
I do enjoy that screen, when clicking on the Big Dog links.
I just wanted to state that personally I would call something 100% stable if it passed a min of 3 benchmark apps without problems. I for example noticed that when I ran furmark at high speeds I had no issue but then 3DM06 gave me issues. If you plan to use anything day to day or really want to know if something is 100% stable I would recommend testing with a variety of apps possibly at room temps 5F above average to simulate summer conditions.
Hey people I got another one I ran about an hour ago. Core was at 805, no vmod or voltage tuner. :D http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=10200945
was playing with my friends 280 gtx evga h20 edition here are the results so far 100% stable now to play with voltage !!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tuff/test1.jpg
Very nice!
Now that I have my computer working again and seeing another 280 thread it made me recall how this is what I was working on before my computer got taken out. So in honor of the 805mhz result tonight I did a quick 806mhz test just to see if I could top it: